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Gay couple challenges Wyoming’s marriage law



Published: Tue, August 24, 2010 @ 2:42 p.m.

CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — A gay couple has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the Wyoming law that defines marriage as existing only between a man and a woman.

David Shupe-Roderick and Ryan W. Dupree of Cheyenne say the Laramie County Clerk’s Office has refused to issue them a marriage license. They’re asking U.S. District Judge Alan B. Johnson to stop the state from enforcing any laws that block gays and lesbians from access to civil marriage.

Wyoming Attorney General Bruce Salzburg declined comment Tuesday, saying he hadn’t reviewed the lawsuit yet.

Shupe-Roderick and Dupree are acting as their own attorneys in the case.


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1Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

They need a class of their own . Like perhaps an odd couple certificate of union . Marriage is what difines a bond for life between a man and a woman .

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2pileated(18 comments)posted 4 years ago

Separate is never equal. Read the 14th amendment. Civil marriage in the USA is law. And the couple in the above article is seeking the equal protection of the law for their analogus relationship otherwise they like many millions of other Americans don't have full citizenship.

Also, marriage "redefined?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and most other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages (male/male) and up until early last century. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Hidatsa, Ojibwa, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua.

Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common.

And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" --two women married was a practice in Dahomey and by many other tribes in the past before colonialism and western religions imposed their prejudices.

And Montaigne in his journal of 1580-1581 documented gay couples (men) marrying each other in a nuptial mass in Rome.

"Bond for life?" What a joke. Are you referring to the dominogamous powerful/rich men like: Newt Gringrich, John McCain, Rush, Trump, ......ad nauseum.

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3Woody(451 comments)posted 4 years ago

So like Crazy Horse, can I have 2 wives?

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4pileated(18 comments)posted 4 years ago

Ethnographers studied both past and present societies/cultures and found that in about 85% of them most marriages consisted of one man and one OR more women.

So when all these anti-gay, anti-equality, pols and religious based pundits say marriage has always been one man and one woman for 2000 years.....or 5000 years or any number in between ...they are fomenting misinformation.

And if you are trying to say that lesbian or gay couples having their citizenship and equality recognized and respected by having the freedom to marry...is then some how related to expanding marriage into polygamous marriages ...you are baiting with a red herring.

Polygamous marriages in history and in the present almost overwelming ( with a few minor exceptions like Crazy Horse) are related to straight marriage. Therefore polygamous marriage is a straight marriage issue. And Gringrich type marriage histories are more likely to equate to polygamy than any lesbian or gay couple.

Marriage is such a fundamental right in the USA that murderers and other felons (people who kill their spouse and/or kids; dead-beat parents) can and do get married sometimes even while in prison. It's settled case law.

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5cambridge(3010 comments)posted 4 years ago

Stan....Have you ever been married?

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6Woody(451 comments)posted 4 years ago

pileated,

polygamy is a marriage issue, as is male/male, female/female. It is how we define marriage. What about bisexuals? Can they marry a man and a woman? Where do we stop?

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

Woody :

"So like Crazy Horse, can I have 2 wives? "

There are no laws against bigamy for the gay community . The hetero side sez you would be havin too much fun with two wives . Sorry, you aren't allowed to . Some much for equal footing,eh ?

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8Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

pileated :

The gay issue in the past was settled by Islam . Today western politically correct values have been exported and weak minds have locked onto the gay idea . Here in the states we have been tolerant of the gays but now they want us to honor them with marriage . What a joke !

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9pileated(18 comments)posted 4 years ago

1st century AD; Nero already married to a guy named Pythagoras. Nero publicly weds Sporus, a male.

2nd century AD; Roman Emperor Elagabalus sends a messenger for an out-of-town male athlete named Aurelius Zoticus, whom he later marries in a elaborate, over-the-top ceremony.

342: Religion based homoloathing is implemented by the powerful for political gain; somewhat similiar to now and the recent past. Christian Roman Emperors Constans and Constanstius 2 make radical changes to marriage laws, barring same-sex marriages and executing those who don't comply.
1552: Francisco Lopez de Gomara recounts in the "History of the Indies," that men are marrying other men.

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10pileated(18 comments)posted 4 years ago

1569--Friar Gaspar de Cruz announces that natural disasters in China are God’s punishment for its people's acceptance of sodomy and same-sex marriages. (De Cruz calls this: "a filthy abomination," an annoyingly popular evangelical meme that's still used today.

And in 1576, the "History of the Province of Santa Cruz," describes indigenous women in Brazil who follow the "berdache" tradition of mixing gender roles: "each has a woman to serve her, to whom she says she is married, and they treat each other and speak to each other as man and wife." Male berdaches can also marry other men.

In 1973, a British anthropologist discovers the mugawe—a religious leader of the Meru in Kenya—who cross dresses, is usually gay, and sometimes marries other men.

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11pileated(18 comments)posted 4 years ago

stan you wrote:
"... Here in the states we have been tolerant of the gays but now they want us to honor them with marriage . ..."

Who is "we?" Are you claiming to speak for all Americans? And look at the polls, your brand of fear and loathing is quickly becoming an anathema. No lesbian or gay couple is wanting you/"us" ------ there you go again claiming to speak for everyone---- to "honor them." Do you honor the divisive and mean-spirited marriages of Gingrich, Trump, serial murderers; dead-beat dads,..............? I don't. But they have the freedom to marry. Many times over.

And another thing, look at Massachusetts they've had the freedom for equal marriage now for over 6 years....and guess what? Lowest divorce rate per capita of all 50 states and the marriage rate is up. Where are all the dire consequences? Are all the kids now graduating H.S. gay? That's what the anti-freedom and anti-equality in marriage people infer will happen with their scary ads...as was done in Yes on Prop 8 and all the other const. marriage amendments.

I suggest you and any other person that opposes freedom and equality in marriage to read "Perry vs. Swarznegger," ---the Prop 8 case. Proponents of Prop 8 had nothing.

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12Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years ago

There is no honor in being gay and I don't honor gay marriage .

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