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Official: Campbell may have to shut down



Published: Tue, April 27, 2010 @ 12:10 a.m.

By Jeanne Starmack

starmack@vindy.com

CAMPBELL

The city will have to shut down in November if problems with revenue and spending continue, said a state official.

Paul Marshall, who heads a state commission that oversees the city’s finances because it’s in fiscal emergency, said the city will run out of money in October. At that point, Campbell would be an unincorporated area and would have to seek services for police, fire and roads elsewhere.

“I hope everyone understands, this isn’t the federal government,” Marshall said at a meeting Monday between the oversight commission and Campbell officials. “At some point, you close the doors. It’s very disappointing.”

The commission’s analysis revealed that the city is spending more than it should by this time in the year on salaries and benefits for the fire department, the mayor’s office, the council and the administrator’s office.

Line items are “bad all over,” said Timothy Lintner, a financial supervisor for the city with the state auditor’s office. He added that revenues are significantly down.

Marshall asked Mayor George Krinos what he will do to control spending.

“I have no control over what gets spent,” Krinos replied, adding that the finance director and council control that.

Krinos has come under fire from council members and from the city’s finance director, Sherman Miles, for calling back a laid-off firefighter to help boost a drop in a rating that affects home- owners’ insurance.

There was no money in the 2010 budget for the firefighter.

Krinos is also coming under fire for taking city health benefits in March after planning to give the $16,000 they cost back to the general fund so he could have a full-time secretary.

Council had considered passing a resolution in January that Krinos would forgo the benefits for the secretary’s salary but did not do so after discovering that the salary figure in the resolution was wrong — it said $26,000 instead of $21,000.

Krinos said Monday that he has the right to the benefits since there is no resolution.

Miles said council took Krinos at his word that he would forgo the benefits, so it did not amend and pass the resolution with the correct salary figure.

Miles said it was made clear to Krinos that there was money either for his health benefits or for a full-time secretary.

Only Krinos could lay off the firefighter and the secretary, but council has the power to adjust the secretary’s hours.

Councilwoman Juanita Rich said after the meeting that council will have to discuss making such an adjustment.

Marshall also asked about the status of a financial recovery plan that was supposed to be submitted at the meeting but was not. Krinos, who is supposed to prepare the plan, said after the meeting that there were “extenuating circumstances” and he didn’t have enough time.

Marshall said he wants a plan by the next meeting May 24. He said the city will be able to spend only 85 percent of what it spent last year for every month there isn’t a plan.


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1Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The secretary and firefighter should be laid off immediately. This mayor did not cause the mess that Campbell is in however he is adding gasoline to a fire. He is so underqualified.

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2UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Gotta laugh HA HA HA because the citizens of Campbell are letting the mayor and council do this to them. Recall the whole bunch and get on with the business of Campbell already. Time for some serious cost cutting in pay and benefits which elected officials seem not to want to do to city employees.

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3L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Shouldnt the finance department be responsible for the recovery plan? After all, they are responsible for the FINANCES. Anything the mayor does teh council rejects anyway so why would the recovery plan be any different?

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4theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

keep drinking the kool-aid city employees it will be over very soon.

Krions is the man isn't he?

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"Krinos is also coming under fire for taking city health benefits in March after planning to give the $16,000 they cost back to the general fund so he could have a full-time secretary."

It looks like George is in deep water and can't swim . Is this a surprise ? There were plenty of indicators that he didn't handle his own finances very well . So he was the man with the plan ?

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6BTaylor(16 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I am not from Campbell, but it seems to me that every time I read a story about the city it's the mayor and council at odds again. Obviously the people voted the mayor and council in and it is what the residents wanted, so all parties involoved should remember that and try and work together. It would be sad if the city of Campbell was shut down, all though at this rate I'm not sure they should be allowed to run thier city.
I think everyone is harsh on the mayor, but remember in all government there is a checks and balance system so he can't get away with too much, looks to me as if there was a problem brewing for years.
I would think the plan should be to set aside petty, personal personality conflicts and get down to do what the people want you to do. Remember you're at where you are at because your residents trusted you.

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7jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

He's a part time mayor why does he need a full time secretary? The residents have dealt with higher insurance because of our lack of firemen..so why worry about it now..its not new. He was put into office to do dirty work and he's to stupid to see it..in my opinion our council are doing their jobs..they are not allowing this man to do what he can't or would negatively affect the residents. The mayor even wanted to hire an assistant to the finance director! who is going to pay that salary? I guess this man thought there was money being hidden away or something..we have been under recievership for years now, the state has been watching our finances, he has been told, what more does he need to be shown there is no money! in my household if you can't afford it, you don't buy it, simple as that!

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8Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Jimc51, you make a great point as his position is a part time position thus why would he need a full time secretary. I thought he ran his own business as a financial planner, why isn't he at his business full time?

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9lidieo3(23 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There is no way that the people bashing the mayor have been to any city or town hall meetings. The mayor invites anyone to attend and express their opinions or give suggestions. (Funny how no members of council show up). Quit playing with your keyboards and get involved before you make your ridiculous posts. The mayor is really trying to do good things for the city and he keeps running into road blocks from our council who have their own political agendas. They do not represent or speak for the people in their wards. It will truly be reflected next election.

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10campbellcitizen(25 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Council has fought him is spending yes! Thats a good thing! Council fought him for his choice for finance diretcor yes! Another good thing seeing though his 1st choice was a fellow that worked in his firm, then one who's daughter works in the water department and collects money for the city conflict of intrest if you ask me.

LOL the finance directer is just one part of the equation for formulating the recovery plan, the mayor and council are the other parts of it. And do to the Finance director being suspended because of the argument between him and the mayors appointee ( which I think the mayor was instrumental in orchestrating) no one had access to the things they needed to get that plan in order.

a few of you who post and state that council should be recalled better get the facts straight on why they have fought him on things you will change your mind I'm sure.

The one who needs recalled is the mayor! All he has accomplished while holding office is rediculous spending ideas, hired outside lawyers then wants the city to pay for them, and created friction among the citizens and council. He is making a complete mockery of the city.

This mayor couldn't tell the truth if it was written on a piece of paper in front him, he can't keep his own stories straight he says one thing today and tomarrow will tell you he never said that. He has lied on so many things including a police report (so I've heard) its pathetic!

For all the city employees who stand behind him I say I'm sorry your taking this stance, maybe though after they lock the doors on your respective jobs he'll take you all out for celebratory drinks again.

Residents we're in trouble and I dont know if we will come out of this or not. What I do know is if this Mayor stays in office, and those of you who want to recall council and are sucessful in doing such, That will literally leave no one left to fight for this city its citizens and yes its employees. We WILL be folding and closing the doors before years end. There will be NO fire NO police NO Park and NO street depts. Nothing will be left.

Truthfully I think this mayor needs recalled. I know alot of people who would sign the petition. I'm one

Wake up people we are now on official count down to the demise and closure of this city.

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11Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Keep drinking the kool-aid and sticking up for him. He had no business hiring anybody as the city is broke. He tried to fire the finance director on day one and found out from the legal dept. that he could not. Then he tried to suspend Miles a few weeks ago and was put back in his place by the legal dept. Marshall scolded him a month or so ago about his proposed spending. Tell me, what does he need a personal secretary for? I remember reading his resume before the election and he stated that he operated a successful business. Does he still have this business or is he now a full time mayor who lives on $15K a year?

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12lidieo3(23 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I am in favor of recalling the mayor and council. Let the people vote again. From attending the meetings, I would think that the mayor would get re-elected and council will be thrown out in a landslide. Why shouldn't you have the right to appoint your own finance director? Especially if the current one has such strong ties to former and current officials who oppose ANYTHING the mayor tries to do.

C-town. If you are interested, go to 965 Windham Court in Boardman. You'll see his office, secretary and co-workers. It's really nice. They are all complaining that the business is starting to suffer because the mayor is spending too much time on city issues. It's a hell of a sacrifice to be treated like this. If I were him, I would resign as mayor and tell all of you to **********

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13jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

and the finance director he wants to appoint has no strong ties? lets get real here..you have to live in they city in order to work in the city..there is no way any employee working for the city of campbell has NO tie to someone.

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14Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I would resign as mayor also becaue his business should be first priority. For that matter, I never would have run for mayor because once this happened people started to go to public records and finding out that he has judgements galore against him. It is not good publicity for the owner of a financial planning business to have complaints against him regarding not paying bills, especially the catering bill at the wedding. One last thing, he did not create the condition the city is in, however, he is responsible for putting the final nail in the coffin.

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15goodoledays(17 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

i personally feel the city is being run with no regaurd to its citizens. no to long ago there was a "group" in the area that took good care of this community as well as others. we all know who they where. now all we have is drugs and criminals. "unorganized crime" if you will. i know several employees that work for the city and they cant give anymore. they need to eat to !!!!! suggestions....sell the city to youngstown or a surrounding community. better yet...sell the city to its citizens !!!! sounds crazy but then maybe others would get involved. in reality.....campbell was once a triving community and can be again. i personally know a few poeple that have tried to buy property from the city with no luck...WAKE UP OFFICIALS...SELL IT OR BETTER YET...GIVE IT AWAY AND GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE TO MAKE A LIVING THERE. you cant get a dollar from a dime but several dimes make a dollar...dah.....start over..from scratch....give the people a say...open for suggestions....there are alot of very intelligent people living in campbell....ask for there help. the elected officials need help people....HELP THEM !!!! you cant blame them for past mistakes and you surely cant expect something from nothing. theres no money there ????? then get off your tail and make some !!! sell off the assets and open campbell up to new ventures. youngstown has done it successfully to a point...so can you !!! i believe there is a good chance campbell can rebound but someone has to take the ball and roll it.....at this point....id be rolling balls all over the place if i was an elected official. sure you cant please everyone but you surely cant just sit there. have a auction, contact investors, sell the vacant property, ask the churches for help, start a drive and wave property taxes in exchance for the property and sell it off, beg if you have to...do something !!!!! clean the city up and things will change !!! just my thoughts....as far as employees go....taking there hard earned paycheck or laying them off is not the answer. you officials are missing something somewhere.....FIND IT !!!!!!!!!

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161970mach1(1005 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Who would want to live there?

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17goodoledays(17 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

its not who would live there but who does live there....people live there. same as everywhere else. i would suggest going public and asking all its citizens as well as others to re-invest in campbell. take the chance....several people will benifit from it in the end and those that dont help can cry cuz someone else is getting rich. the rich get richer ???? maybe but they deserve to...there the ones taking the chances on an investment of sorts. i bet if it where brought to the people in the proper way..with no in fighting like children...it would work. there are alot of investors out there...and campbell has alot to offer. its just not been presented correctly. i suggest we all take a step back and look at the history, heritage, the people of campbell. there where alot of folks that made a difference and still can. i wish i had millions...id make billions off campbell in the end. remember people...if where all in an airplane and it goes down....WE ALL DIE !!!! we are all as one in the end.....so the end is near for campbell ???? maybe but not definately...yet. go to the people.......TOGETHER IN NUMBERS THIS CAN GET FIXED !!!

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18jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Thats pretty much it mrblue..sad but true.

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19goodoledays(17 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

and by the way....dont ask for a tax increase. the poor cant absorb it anymore. ask for investment cash, monies that will bring campbell back...not backwards. yes...im saying sell off parts of the city to companies and investors. someone who isnt going to just let there money sit there. will this work ???? maybe or maybe not. what is the officials doing...all they can with nothing. its easy to point fingers but it is just that...pointing fingers !!! if your going to point then point up...thats right...up....reach for the sky !!! pointing eye to eye is personal. noone likes a crybaby !!! i personally have very little cash flow but if the opportunity arised....i would gamble. the whole world is built on a gamble. isnt it ???? by the way...tearing down buildings in exchange for giving up the property is possibly the best idea yet. if its free its for me !!!! im sure im not alone there. give but only to those who are going to give back. there ya go.....welcome to campbell...truely a giving community !! you want...we got !!! come get some !!!! on and on....i ride through campbell and say to myself...geezzzzz, look at all the scrap laying around, there gotta be hundreds of thousands of dollars there. man...if only. $265 bucks a ton....hmmmm.....lets see....ton here, there, everywhere.....if only someone in council would ask the people....ill bet they would give in away if for the good of the area. wow...look at that house. yeah...lots of potential. hey...its empty. so is that one and that one and that one to !!!! wow..i can make a killing...if only...if only what ????? if only someone wouls SAY SOMETHING.how many people reside in campbell....couple thousand...more ????? hmmmm...let see here....as a representative of campbell im asking for your help. if not in money then in community service to help clean up and rid campbell of all its useless items laying around. can you help ???? i can a little...heres five bucks towards the rebuilding of campbell. lets see...times 2000...thats 10k. 10k...hmmm....that was easy !!!! general fund....noway !!!! nest egg....yes. to be spent within a year on cleaning up the city. lets see...what else can we do...recycle....we do that already. how about a break on property taxes for every dollar you donate. say....10 cents on the dollar ???? try it....ok this guy spends 1500 a year on property taxes but since he gave up the cash early....he is rewarded. the company pays 15000k in taxes....early....???? this guy has 2 cars laying there. he cant afford to pay a tow truck to remove them so why dont we offer free removal in return for the scrap value. this guy cant pay his property taxes and cant keep up with the maintanence any longer. hmmmm....donate the land to the city and we can sell it. this guy is a professional business man...does he have anything to offer in exchange for a plaque on a wall in city hall. something for future generations to see...hmmm...he sure does. on and on.

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20jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

goodoledays you have some good ideas..but its not reality. our previous mayor tried to sell off our water plant and he was shut down. only people investing in vacant homes here are slum lords and their walking away and leaving them abandoned now..you can't just go onto private properties and try to clean, thats trespassing. you can't just buy an abandoned building or house and tear it down, theres a lot of red tape there. I personally take care of vacant land next to me that i don't own, i mow it and keep it looking nice. I enquired about buying it..they want the back taxes on it..so i chose to maintain it to keep my property looking nice.

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21goodoledays(17 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

im done. like i said...i know several people who work for the city and i know they give there all and then some for pennies i might add. laying them off in hopes of a better tomorrow is not the answer either. annex campbell into another community then. wont work...to many folks against it. if somethings dead..then its dead. is campbell dead....absolutely not. ysu 10 minutes away. empty homes everywhere. students looking for housing everyday. shuttle bus to and from ysu. cost money to do that....yeah...alot of folks will do it for 7.50 an hour. how about selling the city to ysu and a stundent community. throw everyone else out. dont have to...there leaving anyway...no fire, police, etc. not safe anymore. offer property to airlines for future investment in traisnit to and from cleveland...pittsburgh. no, to much work. how about selling the city on ebay....that was a joke....seriously. how about the city getting involved in real estate....the city will help you sell your home in exchange for a percentage....hopefully get children in the community with vision. how about offering partnership in rebuilding homes with a investor. how about useing campbell as a learning tool to show the whole world how a city can be on top of the world 30 years ago and now is at the bottom. what went wrong...hmmmm....epa, federal gov, local gov, smog, steel mills gone...why. epa ???? amoungst other things. just how much does campbell really need to operate....and be safe and secure ???? is there waste going somewhere ?? does anyone even care ??? yes they do but not enough to really care. but why ? because noone asked without a tax raise. thats why. ask and you shall recieve....is this true...yes...it is. when push comes to shove.....and the oldtimers really see whats happening....they will come forward as they have for generations. ask thy neighbor and thy neighbor will help. amish style...hmmmm....hey can you help me...well hell yeah...all you had to do was ask. but wait....noone cares anyway so why try.

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22Reader(126 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There are many good people living in campbell who deserve more than what the current administration is providing. The more vacant houses, the less tax revenue. It is up to each homeowner and resident to start to clean up their own neighborhoods and create a community again. Get out and meet your neighbors, become active in the community. Sitting back and complaining isn't going to help.
Get involved in the counsel meetings, vote, stand up and get your city back!

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23jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

its obvious with the way he handles his personal affairs he has steak appitite on hamburger income..why not run a city like that? I don't think the mayor his secretary or any council members should have health ins.

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24theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

the mayor will not get rid of his secretary because its the chief of police wife.

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25jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

he may not have a choice :) in fact he may not even have a job soon enough.

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26jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

paulb can you explain more to me how that actually works? it doesn't affect our schools? what about the city tax? and will our city workers lose their jobs? and can youngstown actually take us on?

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27lotus(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Does anyone know if the next meeting on May 24th scheduled with Paul Marshall, who heads the state commission, is open to the public?
If so...time?...place?

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28MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CITY OF CAMPBELL- WAKE UP! WE HAVE A MORON FOR A MAYOR!!! What does it take for you Kool-Aid Drinkers to see that George Krinos is Moron? He hires a Fire Fighter back with no money. He hires a street Dept worker back with no money. He gives the Administrator a 22,000 raise with no money. He hires a secretary with no money. He says he's going to pay her with his benefits but still gets his benifits!!! I'm in no way a genius but WTF is wrong with him???? WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE ASHAMED to let someone come in and spend OVER 100k of our money and he doesn't even have it. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DEPARTMENTS OF THESE NEWLY HIGHERED PEOPLE??? Don't they understand that not only is the new person that was hired back going to get laid off, but because he spent too much money the next person or the next 2 people in line are going to get laid off!!!! I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY HE DOESN'T PAY ANYONE BACK. HE SPENDS MONEY THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE! I'm so F-in pissed that this guy is our Mayor. What a shame!

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29cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I have read many of your blogs from the last several articles. You all seem to want to blame the mayor but here are some points you must know to make any assumption.
1) the first person the mayor wanted to appoint as finance director did not work for him. His name is Edwin Torress and he has a masters degree in finance and worked at Wachovia Securities and managed around 100MILLION dollars. Mr Miles has a Bachelor degree in business admin and never worked in finance or any related financial field before.
2) There is a pay ordinance which has 16 sections. Section 1 says that the mayors secretary gets 26k annually as a salary and the city Admin gets 10k annually. However in the same ordinance section 15 says the mayors secretary gets 21k annually and the city admin gets 37k annually. Council would not let the mayor forgo his benefits to pay his secrectary the full 26k they made the point she only gets 21k(Section 15). They also claimed the city admin gets 10k(Section 1). You can not pick and choose who gets paid from what section of a piece of legislation to fit your agenda. SO in the same legislation the mayors secretary gets paid from section 15 and the city admin gets paid from section 1, becuase?????? Whose agenda.
3) The mayor has never claimed to have graduated from YSU the vindicator had printed that he then corrected it. The mayor states he attended YSU. He is actually proud of the fact that he is at this station in life without finshing college. What most of you dont know is he droped out of college for 2 reasons. 1, he was offered a job at Edward Jones Investments when he was in his second year. They wanted him to open a financial advisory firm for them and run it at the age of 22. The plan was for him to go back and finish but there was no need to. He has had a succesfull financial advisory firm helping his clients make money and yes still does so to this date.Yes he admitts business is bad this year and its only because of the fact he has had to fight tooth and nail for the city and yet still nothing is accomplished from council saying no.......2, He was engaged at the age of 19 and had a son at the age of 21, which is why when the opportunity arose for a job in his field of his education he took it, to support his son and fiance. Many of you are also unaware that he and his finance seperated at the age of 23 and he gained full custody of his son in which he still has today.

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30cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

4) You point the finger and say look at his bankruptcy, judgements, forclosure, do any of you ask him why. If you knew the truth you would probably feel like a jerk. Well here it is, at the age of 24 he loaned his vehicle to a family member who died in the car crash, some of you might know his name is Micheal Georgiadias. The mayor or at that time George felt so responsible for his cousins death he blamed himself and went through a long stem of depression. He and his cousin were best friends and spent almost everyday together. At this point in George's life he didnt care about his work or anything else from the seperation of him and his fiance and the death of his cousin, along with being a 24yr old single father raising his son by himself. Some of you dont know this but the foreclosure was rental property that he purchased when he was only 21. He had it for 3 yrs and finally after bad tenant one after another he just gave up on it combined with the depression. So when he was 26 he filed for bankruptcy to clear all the debt and start fresh.
6) People always talk about the caterer lawsuit, I dont blame him. I would have done the same thing if that many people got food poisioning at my wedding but this is something for the court to decide.
7) I am sure that some of you are going to say what about the judgements now, well he will tell you that 1 of them is from a stolen credit card from capital one that he will not pay becuase they will not work with him on, the other which should be closed and was part of his bankruptcy is from Second National Bank but still shows open (it was the loan on the car his cousin died in), another is an FNB account that he was not a signer on but was given written authorization to it and they had access to his social security number from the written authorization.
8) Lets get back to the city business, there has always been a full time secretary, there was always a full time city admin. It was only under Jack Dills time that the city had a secretary that was the clerk of council and also his secretary. This is an un ethical practice and can not be done, you need a seperation of the admin, legis, and judicial bodys. The fact that Jack had no city admin since he fired Bill Vansuch who is now council president in 2003 until 2007 was illegal under the Ohio Revised Code. This also makes council liable for not correcting this problem. When Mayor Krinos took office they moved the clerk of council/mayor secretary and made her strictly clerk of council and said that the Mayor Krinos only needed a part time along with a part time city admin and also his position is part time. HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE FOR ALL OF YOU, DO YOU KNOW THE ORDER OF SUCCESSION OF POWER WHEN THE MAYOR IS NOT AT CITY HALL ?

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31cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

First the Mayor, then The City Admin, Then the Law Director (who is only there 10 hrs a week), Finance Director. So the question is if none of these other people are there who then runs the city, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.
Las t of all the mayor sponsored legislation that all of the elected officials give up their benefits which the average is 16k annually for 7 elected officials, council voted it down. Also as for the mayor saying he was going to give up his benefits for his secretary according to what the oversight committee told him which was dollar for dollar. The finance director authorized 10k for a part time secretary and if the mayor gave up his benefits it was 16k to her pay and then her total was 26k, the state said it had to be dollar for dollar. Council said NO, so the mayor took his benefits, I also find it hard to believe that because he took his benefits the city it now broke. All of the council who only work 8-10 hours a month take their 16k worth of benefits so why shouldn’t the mayor who works 40+ hrs a week for the city and is allowing his business to suffer to help out the city.
ALL OF THE OTHER MAYORS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO APPOINT THEIR OWN FINANCE DIRECTOR AND ALSO THE MAYORS SECRETARY HAS ALWAYS BEEN FULL TIME. IT IS COUNCILS GOAL TO HAVE THIS MAN FAIL AS MAYOR.
I DO FEEL THAT ALL SHOULD BE RECALLED AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE ON WHO THEY WANT TO STAY.

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32cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MICHAEL G 93
do you go to the town hall meetings, do you go to the council meetings, or do you even talk to the mayor. If you a man or woman be a d--n grown up and go talk to him, or do you like to hide behind a name on a screen and a key board? Are you affraid.

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33Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I've said it once and I'll say it again, the city did not get into this condition overnight. Companies have been leaving since the mills closed (Cold Metal, Calex, etc.) and the tax base is low. There may not be a way out. Whether the mayor is good or bad may not matter as there may not be much hope. He may not be qualified to be mayor, however, in no way is he responsible for the condition of the city. The bottom line, layoffs must start immediately to stop the bleeding. And I don't just mean layoffs of new employees which he hired...some of the others must go also.

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34cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CTOWN
Out of all of your blogs I have read I normally dont agree with you but in this instance I do. There has been such devastation to the city from over the years that it seems that this is the only solution. As for the mayor being qualified or not, well I dont believe that Rocco who ran a deli, or Jack who ran a hardware store were or are any more qualified then Krinos. I will say that he Mayor Krinos has no controll over the spending becuase it is council who decides all of the spending not the mayor. It is the same council that has been there for 10+ yrs so they are more to blame then anyone else.

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35walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"Rocco who ran a deli"?!? That's all it was? I'll bet many, many thousands of dollars of business were transacted daily at "Micco Dairy"! LOL!!!! That's a good one!

Campbell is doomed and the sooner the citizens realize it, the better. Dissolve the corporation and give it to the county or roll it into Youngstown.

cmhs68: Thanks for the enlightenment but I'm not sure it says a lot about him other than he has survived some bad breaks, but so have many others. I wouldn't be proud about dropping out of college just to continue making a buck. Dosn't say much for his long term strategy. I'm not saying that getting a degree is an end-all in life, but it is a significant accomplishment that takes a lot of hard work and sacrifice. I know, I have two degrees from YSU.

As for his business dealings, I sure wouldn't ever do anything with this guy if half of what you say is true. It seems like he is either a bad businessman or bad luck seems to follow him. Some of the things you list are very fishy sounding. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.This leads to the logical extension: Knowing how he has handled things in his personal life, would you want him to be the head of your City Administration?

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36MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Cmhs68 or Denise, (whatever you want to be called) YOU ARE THE SECRETARY! Give up your job! I do not go to council meetings, I grew up with George Krinos. I don't know one thing good that he has done with finances in 15 years. What would change now? I'm sorry, overnight he changed his ways.... Not! All he knows what to do is spend money. He just hasn't figured out how to pay the money back. "I'm self employed and I take risks and some work and some don't." That's what his answer as to why he has all that bad debt. He doesn't mention relatives, stolen cards, anything like that. Excuses are like a%@holes Denise, everyone's got one and they all STINK!

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37cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Micheal G 93
Becarefull what you imply about "stolen cards" why was there never any charges filed or even a report. You do know that he can file a lawsuit against you for slander, defamation of charecter and you should be aware that vindi can track you email and IP address and can release it if court ordered. Again if I were Denise why would I say THAT WE SHOULD RECALL THEM ALL INCLUDING THE MAYOR AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. As for one good thing with finances, He has helped his clients make alot of money and he is darn good at what he does. He personally made alot of sacrifices to get where he is today. If he is such a bad person then so are all the other people who have taken risks and failed. If you grew up with George then you would know "OUR PLACE REST" if I am not mistaking they went bankrupt after 25yrs. Look at all the other business that failed. However his business is still there and going it might be slow because of all the bs with politics but he is making it. Stop hiding behind your keyboard and go tell him face to face what you think about him. At least thats what people with courage a pair do.

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38jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

what about the OVI charge in 06?

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39MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68 , I would be worried if I said something that wasn't true. All my posts are accurate and responsible. I just listened to him make stuff up on the fly on 570AM and it was hilarious. Ask your husband what people do when they are making stuff up. Their voice cracks, they pause to figure out what would sound good, and it was him to a tee. You say he's making his clients money. I DON'T KNOW ONE OF HIS FRIENDS THAT HAVE THEIR MONEY WITH HIM. Think about that. A lot of our graduating class put a little money away and NONE of us would EVER, I MEAN EVER put our money in his hands. Doesn't that scare you???? I mean, you have probably known him for a year or so and you have so much faith in him. PLEASE WAKE UP and think about his past and his present decisions. HE STIFFED HIS OWN CHURCH! WOW! As for OUR PLACE RESTAURANT, that is a different matter. You have two sons, Michael and Steve who both have different avenues that they decided to go. That business was a great business when they were there running it. Michael and Steve both work hard and both are successful SELF-EMPLOYED businessman. I'm trying to figure out what it is that gives you a warm and fuzzy that he can turn our city around.... I just can't find it.

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40sue(171 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Will the last person in Campbell please turn out the lights? Does anyone under the age of 60 still live there?

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41MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Sue,

That was good! lol. But no, we are not going to turn out the lights. I work, my friends work, WE ARE CAMPBELL. I want nothing but the best for my city. As much as I dislike CMHS68'S Comments, I give her credit to speaking her mind. I believe a lot of it is untrue, but something needs to be done. I wish we could get business here, I wish we had lower taxes, I wish we could pay for 100 fireman. That's not the case and adding into the equation somebody spending money that we don't have hurts everywhere. I'm just SO PEEVED that other people are going to lose their jobs because OUR mayor brought people back to work that never should have been brought back.

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42jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I have to agree with MichaelG..so now because he brought back a fireman and gave raises..more will get laid off..you watch..but council will get blamed.

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43Silence_Dogood(1341 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"You do know that he can file a lawsuit against you for slander, defamation of charecter"

THATS RICH ,JUST RICH!
THIS ABOUT A MAN THAT HAS CREATED A STORY ABOUT FOOD POISONING TO GET OUT OF PAYING A BILL.
RICH I TELL YA , RICH !

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44dano0513(9 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Soon enough, if God willing that moron of a mayor AND council will be gone. As far as the police chief and his wife, well if theres no city they wont be there either, and with the rep the police in campbell have I dont think any good police force would hire him. Aaahhhh the good old days of Dill! Damn at least Dill has roads being paved and house being tor down. This loser cant even do what hes supposed to do let alone anything else.

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45Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

This is not rocket science. To get out of this mess you either increase the tax base or reduce expenses (or do both). It doesn't look like the tax base will be increased soon therefore expenses must be reduced. The easiest way to do this is cut payroll. Council and the mayor better start working to figure out a way to make these cuts. This is not going to be pretty and there is going to be complaining by those laid off but it has to happen. Hopefully, no additional safety forces get cut as they are already operating at a skeleton level.

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46Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Hate to bring up the past, but can you imagine the money that was coming in to this town in the 50's, 60's, and 70's when the YS&T was working full blast. There was a huge tax base back then and everything was squandered/stolen.

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47Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"The one who needs recalled is the mayor! All he has accomplished while holding office is rediculous spending ideas, hired outside lawyers then wants the city to pay for them, and created friction among the citizens and council. He is making a complete mockery of the city."

THIS SAYS IT ALL !

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481970mach1(1005 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"i suggest we all take a step back and look at the history, heritage, the people of campbell."

Didn't the entire police force get into trouble during the Lenny Strollo days?

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49REALLY(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

First of all the citizens voted in someone with little to NO experience.(fact).Second of all doesnt every JOB! Have a protocol to follow regardless of what seat you hold? I blame everyone involved (citizens,mayor,and council). It has been a personal vandetta from DAY one!!l Lets face the facts people.You have ALLOWED the mayor to call the shots with matters that SHOULD NOT have even been a factor or even OPEN for bartering.These so CALLED CIVAL SERVANTS work for you the people.And the WHOLE situation appears to be for personal GAIN and who is GOING to win the WAR....WHAT a SHAME.The bottom line BENEFITS,HIRING,and removing employees from their positions SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN A DECISION MADE SOLEY BY THE MAYOR!!!!The city is in financial ruins first and foremost,and by the mayor adding additional financial burden it will and be the demise of the city.I just dont get it where is the state that was supposed to be watching over every dollar in and out of the city.The only organization that is DOING their JOB as promised and dont miss a beat is RITA.What a crying SHAME and EMBARRASMENT politics in the city have resulted to. I feel like im watching romper room.MAY THE BEST MAN WIN while the city suffers.

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50REALLY(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE CITY IS DOOMED.

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51theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Ask the police chief's wife, mayor's secretary, and the firemen called back if they care if more city employees will lose their jobs because of the mayor giving them jobs when there is no money in the budget to support their jobs..

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52MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The word, I can answer that question for you. HELL NO! They feel like they got him into office and they are owed this. They all campaigned for him and if you read these posts on here you will see that one of them are actually defending his past like he was their own son. Why is no one talking about his BS budget that he keeps saying everyone in council shot down. HE WAS USING MONEY FROM OTHER FUNDS THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO!!! So, If he is a new mayor and he has a valid question about "why can't we use this money from this fund..." and people answer that question, why does he still put it in his budget?? If he has people that did past budgets helping him put his budget together, why did they not tell him about this rule??? WHY WOULD HE EVEN BRING UP HIS BUDGET EVER AGAIN IF WHAT HE HAD IN HIS BUDGET YOU SIMPLY CANNOT DO??? Go ahead and blame council for this crisis. I know one thing, council was doing just fine without hiring these new people. Council didn't have this bizarre behavior going on in our city before George Crazinos took office!

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53walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I heard this guy on wkbn570 yesterday and I can tell you that I would not trust him for one second. He has a poor track record with his personal dealings. He was also very evasive. The ship is sinking and this guy is drilling more holes! Campbell is a small town and needs to reduce its staffing levels. I gotta agree with MichaelG93, Campbell has had tough times in recent memory but this guy seems to be bringing it to a new level.

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54cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE MAYOR IS DOING
To anyone who is doubting what Mayor Krinos's goal is let me tell you. It is not decreasing the safty forces, and you cant run a mayors office with a part time secretary I dont know how else to explain this to MichaelG93 but I am not denise and I am not the mayor;s secretary.
If you meet with the mayor one on one he will tell you that he has 2 business coming into Campbell. He has been working on these businesses for 3 yrs with Senator Schiavoni, Gov Strictland, Tim Ryan, (even prior to taking office) and also a few development companies. The Mayor is going to announce in a few months with the above named people about 2 businesses that are coming in and will create 1000 direct jobs in the city of Campbell.
Just drive down to the brown fields the sign is up today for the final phase of the land to be cleaned so the companies can move in. This is not a joke one business will build a 50million dollar facility and the other is over a 100million dollar facility. Avg pay for these jobs is going to be about 45k annually. They are not ready to announce it yet until the higher ups in office give the OK.
Also Jack Dill had nothing to do with this, Mayor Krinos brought all of this to his attention in a meeting that he held 2yrs ago in the incubator building with Jack Dill, Mayor Terry Stocker, Mayor of Lowellville and also tim ryans office. As a matter of fact I believe the mayor said Mike Tsikorus, one of our coucil men were ther and after the explanation Jack Dill said NO THANKYOU, and left. That is what made George run for Mayor. He kept hearing story after story about how Jack was turning down businesses.
Also did you know Campbell gave Youngstown Pipe 50k to move into the old cold metal building and they where to use it as a warehouse creating 10 jobs. Does it look like any business is in there?

WHERE IS THE 50k.

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55TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

A definition of a "mayor"

Political leader of a municipal corporation. Mayors are either appointed or elected for a limited term. In Europe until the mid-19th century, most mayors were appointed by the central government; in France, they are still agents of the central government. In the U.S., they are either directly elected by the populace or chosen by an elected council. Some fulfill only ceremonial functions, executive power being held by a professional manager hired by the legislature. A mayor's powers "may include the power to make appointments, veto legislation, administer budgets, and manage administrative functions".

Now after reading that and going over all of the Mayor's public records and failing businesses.This guy has never paid for anything in his entire life. How in God's name did this idiot get elected?He has no experience in any form of leadership or finances.
I guess the same way Obama did by taking advantage of people's dissmay of lack of leardership for so many years. I bet most of you are kicking yourself for believing in this fool when he was running.

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56cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

AND ALSO mayor krinos is trying to have a bridge built from Wilson Ave to the brown fields. Unlike Jack Dill who built it on the Struthers Side. His goal is to develope Wilson Ave into a retail district after these businesses come in. It is looking like the bridge will come from 3rd st which is right next to the Water Plant. Also how is it that under Jack and this council even with mr miles the water department was showing such a negative revenue, to the point they tried to sell it. Mayor Krinos sat down with the plant super and they found a way to generate an extra 500k of revenue this year for the water plant with no extra cost to the people. Now council and mr miles want to take peoples pay out of it to help support the city. I am very confused, 2yrs we had to sell it according to Jack and Council, but now its the most profitable part of the city HMMMMMM is that maybe a sign of possible back hand deals there.

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57TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68 , where do you get your so called facts and info from ?
Because if its coming from the mayor's mouth its about as worthless as the toilet paper i use to wipe my butt.
If the mayor has all this going on ,why no mention of it to the news or why didn't he bring it up on the radio yesterday to save some face ?

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58jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

tell us cmhs..what do you think of Juanita Rich? she was on your bandwagon of hate too and once she got in and saw exactly what there was to work with she has changed her tune. Maybe you need to get on the inside and see whats there to work with. OR maybe YOU should have ran for mayor.

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59devildog(96 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68...I'm starting to feel sorry for you! First off, the whole spill about the Mayors "misfortunes" was unnecessary and irrelavant. We all have had difficult times to endure in our personal lives, however we try to deal with it in a manner that speaks to our character. How he handled his "depression" speaks volumes of how he will handle the stresses of a mayors office. He doesn't have the right to bring those excuses into his office. You seem to know way too much, you must be VERY close to him, perhaps too close. I have yet to hear you defend him for stiffing his church, please save yourself some face and don't even go there!
So now you want us to believe he has this great big magical plan for city jobs? He hasn't shared that with the state oversight committee and just let the Vindicator print the fact that city may close up? Good one! You are setting yourself up for some big disappointment! This is like a cult, Krinos being the leader and your the #1 follower....whatever he says, you believe!
Wow! Good Luck!

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60theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

theTruth123

chms68 is one of many that are drinking the kool-aid.

Do u think two compaines are moving into the brownfields, building a total of 150 million dollars worth of buildings? What does campbell have to offer these two companies that youngstown can't? why no news coverage?

better yet I'M calling Senator Schiavoni office to see if they heard of anything coming in, I'll give an update

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61MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68, YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND!!! Do you know anything about what needs done at the brown field site?? YOU’RE IGNORANT TO THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY STILL NEEDS PHASE II DONE! That means that our city is just applying for the money to have that done. Once and if we receive the money for that, IT WILL TAKE A MININUM OF 1 YEAR to have that site ready to start digging!! It would be a miracle if you keep a job with all these lies you tell. Also, please don't tell me that they one company you are talking about is the company that is going to be doing something that NO WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES its business is being done???? EVERYBODY READING THIS TELL ME IF THIS NEXT SENTENCE MAKES SENSE TO YOU.... So, a brand new company WHO HAS NEVER DONE BUSINESS BEFORE AND THEIR BUSINESS IS ONE THAT IS NOT DONE YET IN THE UNITED STATES is going to build a 50 million dollar building in Campbell???? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BELIEVE THAT!!! It's a joke, an absolute joke. I further don't believe George Krazinos is working with Strickland or Tim Ryan and I'm going to call and verify that. I'm soooo sick of lies and BS just to waste people time and patience. AGAIN, CMHS, WAKE UP! YOU’RE IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE!!!

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62TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I got an idea on how the Mayor can save the city!

He can write a book called:
"Greek Mythologies of a Mayor"
It can be all about how to take money from people and businesses and never pay it back, and how to become a leader of a town and bankrupt it like his own life , also throw in some tales of accomplishments that he never did , with a little bit of comedy .

Then he could donate all sales to save the city fund!!!

I don't think it would work though ,because after all the judgements and collections are paid off I don't think there would be any money left.

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63MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CITY EMPLOYEES, please start asking yourselves which one of your friends is going to get laid off because some moron hired people that he didn't have the money to pay them with. Better yet, start asking which one of your friends has someone good and educated to become mayor. I, personally, was thinking Tony Kelly. Good guy, good head on his shoulders and tough as nails. Sorry Tony if you hear about this but it's the truth and only an opinion!!!! What a shame that people are going to get laid off because of a mayor's mistake!!!!

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64theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Called tim ryan's office (330)740-0193 said they have been working with the city for years for job creation but have no news of a major company coming in.

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65MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I have to quit writing on here. I have bills that I've made that I actually have to pay!

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66theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

jimc51 wrote;
tell us cmhs..what do you think of Juanita Rich? she was on your bandwagon of hate too and once she got in and saw exactly what there was to work with she has changed her tune. Maybe you need to get on the inside and see whats there to work with. OR maybe YOU should have ran for mayor.

She tried to run for council and LOST TWICE do u think she would have a chance at Mayor?

I guess she don't have Juanita over her house for dinner anymore

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67cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

If you dont believe me why has there been meetings in the mayors office with everyone involved from the business to the public officials. There have been meetings in Pittsburgh, and Columbus. Verify it with Bob Carcelli, Senator Schiavoni, John Evan from the howland Co which is the developer and also GPD who is the engineering co for the bridge. This is all factual. Oh yea if you grew up with the mayor then you can also ask Bob Yankle Sr. he has been working with the Mayor on this. As for these companies they are not brand new, they both have operations in other countries. Go down and see the phase 2 sign that was posted today. The mayor will not make a public announcement about this until the gov says its OK. Which will be in about 2 months. Other things the mayor has done, he brought in a lead abaitment program for peoples homes, he brought in a program to help people reduce there 3% interest rate reduction for business on any busienss loans, a program that give any home owner a 3% reduction on a loan to make their home more energy efficient. Also a 3 million dollar paving, curb, and storm sewer project for wilson avenue so when these business are in and the bridge is built it will be able to accomodate new buildings for retail or food locations. He did all of this. Check with GPD on the wilson ave project and also the treasurer of the state for the 3% interest rate reduction.
NOW MICHAELG93 phase 2 will be started in 1 month and will take a yr to complete but its not stopping the buisnesses. Oh yea call Arnie Clabone from the Ohio Department of Development. and Barb Ewing from Tim Ryns office. They will not give specific details becuase the gov said not to but they should be able to confirm the meetings and the Phase 2 and as to the reason why.

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68cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

JIMC51 and THE WORD
I have no opinion of Juanita Rich good or bad, I only know here from seeing her around town. I again can not make you understand that I am not who you think I am, if I were then I would deff tell you.

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69cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

OH also the mayor did tell the state finance committee Paul Marshall specifically in his office about these 2 differ businesses. The rules the state finance committee works off of is they can not take it into consideration untill it is actually producing money. That is fair explanation to me and I agree with them on it. Have to see dollars first. But check all the sources I gave you.

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70TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I call B.S.
For the interest programs those are state and federal programs , he didn't create those, anyone can apply for those on their own.
Again V&M star has been in the news for over 2 years and bringing in maybe 600 jobs .
Now a new company is supposedly bringing over a 1000 jobs a not one mention of it anywhere, I call B.S.

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71cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

IN MY OPINION I FEEL THAT JACK DILL AND ALL OF COUNCIL SET THE CITY UP FOR FAILURE WHILE IN OFFICE SO THE CITY HAS TO SELL THE WATER PLANT. I FEEL THAT THIS IS STILL AN ACTION BEING CARRIED OUT TODAY BY COUNCIL UNDER JACKS ORDERS.

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72cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

TheTruth123
Call the above mentioned people. If you think its BS then god bless but atleast do your research first. Everyone is quick to try to research anything on the mayor to discredit him. Well do your research on him now with this and prove yourself wroung.
As for those programs yes they are through the state did you not see where it says it in my previous blogs about the Treasurers office. Just like the roads being paved is all stimulus money that jack didnt have to lift a finger for. IT was GPD that did all the research and they get paid by the gov for getting the city the grant. If it wasnt for GPD no street would be getting paved.

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73TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I'm sorry , I don't buy this hush,hush or secret meeting crap.
Anything that is coming from cmhs68's posts is false. I called the number posted too for tim ryan's office and got a response of trying to get jobs to the valley ,but nothing near close to what is mentioned in cmhs68's post.

With how everything is in this valley somewhere or somehow there would be mention of a buisness that size coming to the valley.

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74cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

TheTruth123
Wait and see. Wait and see.
Again you would be amazed of how secret things can be kept when it involves higher politcal offices controlling the announcements. Call Bob Carcelli.
Call Bob Yankle, Call Sen Schiavoni, Call all the people I mentioned in the previous blogs.

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75MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

YOUR OPINION CMHS68 MAKES NO SENSE. Why would a mayor setup his own city for failure. I mean, that is so stupid to say! I know one thing, I never saw anything in the paper about Campbell's mayor or other mayor's spending money that they didn't have after people told that your shouldn't be spending that money . You want to talk about purposely setting up the city for Failure???

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76TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There is a difference between political reality and actual reality.

Political reality- is when state officials promise local officials funds from the federal goverment in which to recieve votes for elections ,basicaly broken promises.

Actual reality- is the city of campbell will be long gone and dissolved before any of the promises of the so called named in above posts ever come through.

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77TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I'm going to make one relative argument here.

Ok, with all things said you take away council's problems and take away the mayor's problems and we start from scratch and still running out of money by october.

Let's just say for argument sake that this fictional business that builds widgets is coming to campbell.

How does the city make it for the next 2 plus years before any revenue will be seen?

The only way that is possible is to cut jobs and salary and sacrifice not spending on needless excesses , which i would say 60 % of this country is doing now, right ?

So anyone can preach about doing this or doing that or this is coming and so forth.

The fact is I don't believe the mayor has it in his heart or soul to be the leader that this city needs to make it there.

That is the plain and simple TRUTH!!!!

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78jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs..if its so hush hush..how do you no all of this? and i never thought you were who the others think..and yes you were very close at one time with Jaunita. and stop blaming Jack Dill for crap..its like blaming Clinton for everything that went wrong in Bush's administration.

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79cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Thetruth123
You are 100% correct there will in the interim be a requirement for layoffs and cut backs unless Mayor Krinos has a plan for that which from the budget that was provided for him to work within I dont believe there is anything now.

jimc51
I said it before all you have to do is go ask him and he will show you the companies, the site developement plan. He really does not hide anything from anyone but he is not able to make the official public announcment until the higher ups ok it.
Go see him at city hall.

MichaelG93
I said it was my opinion there is no fact but as you previously stated you dont go to council meetings, town hall meetings, or anything to get information to form an opinion other then it seems that you have a personel prob with the mayor. I again tell you I am not who you think I am.

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80jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

ya go to meetings and act like animals..no thanks

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81devildog(96 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68 I think it was YOU that had a problem with Jack Dill!
....and you know so much about Krinos and have all this inside scoop, because YOU are????????
Tell Us who you are, if you aren' his secretary. Why should we believe what your saying?

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82onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

new mastercard commercial for George Krino's sponsored spending in our city IN JUST THE PAST 4 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!

Street Sweeper ................$143,000
Sewer Jet Truck................$280,000
Water Meters....................$320,000
New Wages and Benefits...$ 66,000

4 month total ...................$809,000

The look on Pro Krino's fan club faces when this city closes up shop because they stuck with him

..........PRICELESS

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83jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

oh man thats the best!!!! way to go onlyincampbell!!!!

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84Silence_Dogood(1341 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

BREAKING NEWS
The Mayor just announced a plan to increase the tax base in Cambell. Every one in the City is to eat dinner at Anganetta's and claim food poisoning. With the increase in income from the court settlements it will be more then enough to ballance Cambell's budget.

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85cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

onlyincampbell

YOU HAVE MADE THE MOST STUPID BLOG I THINK I HAVE EVER READ. You must be a moron!!!!

1) street sweeper w/ sewer jetter as a combo vehicle is........30k annul
a lease over 6yrs
2) water meters ........56k annual payment over 4 yrs
3) new wages and benefits........ 66K annuall>>>>>>>>>>>>>(YOUR LIFE IF YOUR HOUSE CATCHES ON FIRE)
That the reality of priceless you complete stupid moron.
Lets be realistic,

Council spent 30k alone on paying an outside company to come in and do just street sweeping. (EPA says they have to come back next yr or we do it)

Council spent 42k alone for a company to come in and sewer jet 1/3rd of the cities sewers. (EPA says they have to come back next yr or we do it)

The water plant was having people steel over 220k of water per year, and the new meters will catch these people This was done by the mayor at no cost to the citizens. The city did a meter assesment price change on the businesses who have a 1" meter or larger which covers the 4 yr payment of 56k annually. So the real cost is nothing. Actually the water deparment makes 86k annually from the meter assesments if you deduct the 56k that is a new positive revenue of 30k for the water department and now we start collecting the money for the 220k of stolen water. Over all its an increase annully fo 250k just from the meters.

Lets see council spent 72k on outside companies when the mayor wanted to spend 30k, thats a 42k savings to the city and all of the sewers not 1/3 would be done. The city is paying the street deparment employees extra money to do these jobs as part of their base pay but doesnt give them the equipment to do it. HMMMMMM?????????
The firefighter called back cut down the over time to where it was only a cost of and extra 16k to the city more then what it paid last year to the fire dept payroll, but if we would have got the new equipment for the street dept it would save us 42k. So if the firefighter is costing us 16k and we are saving 42k thats an overall savings of 26k (after deductin his total additional cost) with an extra firefighter on staff to save possibly your life.

This is what the mayor is trying to do who and where you get your info I suggest you check again. No one seems to have the correct answers becuase non of you are actually talking to the mayor or city administrator.

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86TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Well cmhs68 thats all well and dandy,But the reality is all those purchases and savings are over 4 and 5 years.

REALITY CHECK ,THE CITY WILL BE BROKE IN 6 MONTHS .

So those savings mean nothing.

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87cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

TheTruth123
Actually that is a savings now becuase council has the outside company sweeping the streets(they just did it), outside company vacuum the sewers (they are starting next week) The Mayor wanted to get this machine back in January which is a combo unit. So no we would have that extra money now.
As for the water plant the meters will be in next month. That will be an increase now becuase the people can no longer take the water.

Let me ask anyone this why does council want to pave the roads in the park. Thats an extra 100k they want to spend, but they dont want to worry about fire protection, our ISO rating which will cuase all home owners insurance premium when it renues will increase 50% to 100% of a residents total premium.

What business would want to move here and Who in the world other than people who dont care want to move here with a 2.5% tax rate, and also no saftey services. Here is a question you have to ask yourself why are so many business opening in Youngstown when they are at 2.75%. Well here is the answer, they are getting the saftey services they need and want.

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88cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Does anyone understand that this is all becuase of councils budget, you can make all the remarks about the Mayor you want but the reality is he did not cause this, councils budget did not move the money around in the right places to compensate the proper needs of the city. The extra spending is ALL COUNCILS FAULT NOT THE MAYOR. COUNCIL MAKES ALL THE FINAL DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY.

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89cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MICHAELG93
Or is it Mike who is on the church council. (you seem to feel you know about the churches affairs)

You really dont understand how the admin, judicial, and leg branches work.
COUNCIL IS SPENDING THE MONEY NOT THE MAYOR> THE RECALL OF THE FIREFIGHTER OR EVEN HIM TAKING HIS BENEFITS IS NOT MAKING THE CITY GO BROKE IT IS THE UN NEEDED SPENDING COUNCIL IS DOING. I feel you have not a clue of what is going on in the city other then what you read and I will say the vindicator writer, creates the news does not report it.

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90onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS why I thank you so much for the childish name calling. Quite typical response from the Krino's side of the world. I wont stoop to your level with name calling, I'm an adult and find it quite unbecomming.

street sweeper sewer jet/ combo..we had one that was operational last year it was ran twice! Who would run it anyway? The Bednarik Brothers and MacIntosh are the only laborers out there! If the other street dept. worker had to get out of the back hoe or a truck it wont get done! How many sewers has he done since getting his helper back?
NEWS FLASH every municipality HAS to run a sweeper every spring! The company that did it this year is responsible for hauling away the debris if it doesn't meet EPA testing for safe reuse. thus costing us less in disposal fees trucking fees etc.
I find it so hard to believe that you can state that there is over $220k in stolen water. apparently you know where that is taken place or else you wouldn't have a figure in mind, so if its being stolen prosecute those who are steeling it!
And the price change on the 1" or better, thats nice they raised the price on CHURCHES hello! Campbell the City of Churches? Does this ring a bell? So by the mayor changing his proposal from where it clearly says and I quote from his 1st proposed legislation in which he is the only sponsor " This moral obligation shall be paid from the water capitol improvement Fund. Furthermore, the cost of the meters WILL BE BILLED ON THE RESIDENTS WATER BILL ACCOUNTS MONTHLY FOR A PERIOD OF FOUR (4) YEARS, THUS REFUNDING THE MONIES TO THE WATER CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT FUND." And furthermore CMHS the bill for this as it reads in the same sponsored ammendment the cost is 4 equal payments of $80,835.07 and financed at 4.99% but now that he changed his wording as he so often does its now taken off the backs of the residents and placed on the businesses and churches! Wow that will make the businesses come running to town to open up wont it!

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91onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

now lets see you state "council spent 72k on outside company's when the mayor wanted to spend 30k" ....My thinking is and I'll say this slowly so you may comprehend WE ARE IN FISCAL EMERGENCY! They were subcontracted out for this year, a one time contract, the mayors is a 6 year contract we don't know if the city will still be here! And the city pays ONE street Dept worker a $1.05 more an hour and he's the one who does the least when it comes to physical labor I have never seen him with the patching crew!
Ok the fire fighter thing interestingly enough the mayor was told BY the STATE we didn't have the money for him. AND if THE MAYOR had waited a few more DAYS they could of maybe brought him back part time along with 3 maybe 4 more PART TIMERS for what we are paying for ONE. Better yet brought VOLUNTEERER"S on board and saved the city money AND THE HOMEOWNERS MONEY on their Homeowners Ins!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and for the record it wasn't soley based on not having the fireman according to ISO the equipment is not being regularly tested as required, the fireman are not getting the manditory training sessions thats required, so before you go putting this on council why dont you ask The Mayor and the Fire Cheif to see the actual papers from ISO as why our insurance is going up!

And I have to really believe that you get your info from the mayor because we all know what he says today he will tell you tomorrow he didn't. My information that I have stated I have recieved from the papers that are at EVERY COUNCIL MEETING I SAVE THEM FOR FUTURE REFERENCE! What I said the Mayor proposed He did! his name is the only one listed as resolution sponsor.

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92Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

To "onlyinCampbell": Very nice and informative post. Good job.

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93Brkfldwrrr621(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Its time for everyone to stand up and relize krinos made all these campaign promises that he can't keep. And he is trying to blame everything on council because they wont let him spend all the money that he wants. The only conspiracy going on in campbell is the that all this name calling and pointing fingers is killing the city and half the workers dont see that because they are so brainwashed from all his campaign promises. Yea i want to see the police department and fire department fully staffed but in reality it's not possibale at this time. A couple weeks ago almost all the city employes packed into city hall because krinos wouldnt let the finacial director which he had suspened sign there checks. And tryed turning it around to look like it was councils fault. Well that should be a wake up call to all the city employees if we keep letting all this crazy spending and childish games to continue every week is going to be like that city wokers waiting for a pay check because the Great city of cambell will be no more. and everyone will be waiting for unemployment checks. So with that said the people spoke and elected Mr krinos yeah he may not be always right but he has a experienced council that has held this city up over the last couple years and i ask for this lets see krinos work with council and everyone in campbell and lets turn things around the only way we can save this city is instead of pointing figueres and blaming everyone and arguing and name calling is everyone work together get this budget ready and start looking for ways to make this city a better place to live in and attractive to companies anyone have any ideas. We all can do this beacause WE ARE CAMPBELL

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94Brkfldwrrr621(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I support MICHAELG93 cmhs it sure sounds like you work for the mayor

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95onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Now I do have to thank you CMHS for prompting us all on calling these other elected officials to see what George has in store for our city in the line of businesses. I did just exactly what you said I called Schiavoni and I found it quite interesting on what he has in the works and now I fully understand why it is kept hush hush. its not because its really great news at least not to me. So this makes me pause for a few moments and wonder if all my fellow residents would feel the same way as I do?
Sooooo.... oh what the heck lets find out!

Please let me know your feelings on this and tell me if I am alone on NOT wanting this!

Estech is coming to town! What is Estech? its a municipal waste incinerator. Where is the garbage coming from and how? Well I'll tell you New York and New Jersey, via rail road! You know NEXT to the Mahoning River! This is the operation that every mayor in the area including Mayor Dill said NO to! Yes yes yes our mayor George Krinos seems to think I guess this would be great for us. Making us a dumping station that no one else wants. Why? because it will generate revenue. Yes that it will, but at what cost to the health of us, our children, our grandchildren? If its so wonderful then why aren't other communities in those states heading up the band wagon and making the oodles of money? Why isn't Youngstown, Struthers, Lowellville saying yes? I have to wonder, is it safe? what enviromental impact on our air quality be jeopardized? Our river from the run off from this plant? The smell? The ash it will produce? What EPA permits will be needed? Why can't you find pertinant info about this company state side, only in other countries? Why did other Estech operations close their doors else where in the US?
Thank you CMHS for prompting us to call its the only good post that I found of yours to be resourceful. To say the least next week I will be voting for Kathleen Purdy not Schiavoni seeing though he's the one the mayor is working with on this according to CMHS.

So everyone how do you feel about this? Am I the only one who thinks this is a "rotten" idea? Campbell the city of churches and now it'll be the city dump!

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96Brkfldwrrr621(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

ooo SO this is how in his election campaign he said he was going to clean up Wilson Ave how does dumping garbage only a few yards away be consider a clean up effort. Sure sounds like he plans on cleaning it up. I sure know i dont want to drive bye a landfill everyday. And usualy every fall i as well as alot of friends enjoying going to high school football games in campbell now we will have the privilage of going to football games and smelling garbage only about a mile away from the football stadium

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97cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Brkfldwrrr621
You must be working with some council men or women.
You are correct about the meters, it was to get the info on the floor, however it was also something that was amended. You will see that in future legislation that it was to just be paid out of the water cap fund. Not by the citizens. Speak to the water super about it he will verify.

As for Estech, the mayor has never kept it hush, hush, he has said it for the last 2 yrs and that is not the only company. Estech is not a municiple waste incinerator it take the waste and recycles it. There are far more greater possiblities with this company then any one can imagine.
1) the waste comes in a sealed crate from new york, the train actually pulls directly into the building which has vents and scrubers on it so no smell gets out, it is then placed into a spill area. All waste is processed within 24hrs from time of arrival. You will never see the waste, smell it or even see smoke.becuase it does not burn the waste.
2) the waste is then place into an autoclave or (pressure cooker) where steam is used to sterilize, and breakdown all of the waste in a sealed container. NO ODOR AGAIN. When it comes out you have a 100% sterilized clean product which is stripped and ready for resale to companies who buy, steel, aluminum, copper, plastics, and glass. There is a bi- product called fiber cellulose which is used to make make energy. It is put through a gasification process and the gas spins a turbine which generates electricity. This electricity is going to be needed strictly for the 2nd business. Its one of their major costs.
2) This company requires no EPA permits, it was found to be pure green energy.
SO let me recap, no smell, no oder, no burning of waste and oh yea the city gets about 5 million as a revenue sharing plan a year in from this plant operating.
3) ALso this one business will create 250 direct jobs and avg pay is 50k plus. Also the mayor has it set up so Campbell residents have preffer treatement for the job openings and allows the city to have its own municipal garbage collection at a cheaper rate then what you are paying now and this will also make the city extra money.
Hmmmmm sounds great to me, or maybe I am the village idiot. By the way I do believe the steel mills everyone here so greatly says was the best thing put more toxins in the air in 1 day then this plant would ever, again no EPA permits.

As for it not being in the states, well there is alot of money in the garbage industry which the Mahoning valley has become the number 1 dumping site. This is a way to eliminate the waste,

www.estechusa.com

This is just one of the business the mayor is bringing in.

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98cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Brkfldwrr21
Also as for any promise in his campaign he did not make any promises he cant keep. He just needs a council that will allow him to try, and I stress TRY to even accomplish what he stated he wanted to do. If you go to all the council meetings Chris then I am sure you know that council has the final say so. As for the st department employee;s go talk to them instead of Mike or Juanita. They will tell you what is really going on. Thats what the mayor did when he first was elected. I am sure meeting with Mr Miles and Juanita is informative but maybe you should go a step further and meet with all the departments. heck go to the wate plant. Again your same council wanted to sell it 2 yrs ago and now its the most profitable devisions of the city. Also maybe you should sit down with the mayor to understand some differences in the budgets. As for the fire fighter and waiting another week. There is still another firefighter who is on call back other then Greg so lets be real no part timers untill are called back or we wait another 2-3yrs for the last ones recall rights to expire. Now if you again check with the mayor and read the contracts and talk with ISO you will see how all of this fits together. It is the lack of firemen with training. The 2 go together, the trucks are below standards for a municipality. Do us all a favor and get councils side, the mayors, and also the employees

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99SoupCity85(25 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

So CMHS, at what point are you EVER going to make up your mind. Yesterday, you talked of the 2 businesses that Krinos was bringing. BUT, it had to be hush, hush....because he was waiting on others to allow him to announce it. NOW, you're saying he never kept it hush, hush. Dude, whoever you are.....MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY!!!!! I asked my mother just last night about these 2 new companies. She never heard of anything; yet you NOW say it was a known fact for 2 years. Dude, your confused. Tell the mayor to quit feeding you his S%&^. Or better yet, maybe he can come up with MORE $$$$ that doesn't exist and pay you for being his PR rep.

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100cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Soupcity85
He told people about the recycling co (Estech) which he has been doing so for 2 yrs. He has not kept it hush hush. The second business which is the employer for 750 direct jobs is the one that is being hush hush. That is not by his choice to reveal he is respecting the requests of the higher officials.

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101theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Shouldn't u be answering the phones in the mayor's office instead of posting on here? Why are we paying your salary to post on vindy?

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102TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There is no truth to any of cmhs68 posts at all.

As soon as this person posts it is always followed up buy another person posting direct facts to discount cmhs68.

cmhs68 is speaking directly from the mayor's butt!

It sounds like the mayor to me, never can get their story straight,never posting actual facts that the rest of us can find. Its all here say.

Cmhs68 good luck with all your dreams , because dreaming won't pay your bills when your job is gone in 6 months.

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103igotsomethintosay(31 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

This is all so entertaining, a city torn over who is the bad guy, the mayor or city council, and the truth is they both are. The Mayor was voted in not b/c of his great ability to run Campbell, but b/c the people of Campbell were tired of Mayor Dill and wanted a change, a much needed change. The City going under isn't all of Mr. Krinos' fault, this began years and years ago, but he sure isnt helping matters much! City Council are a bunch of people out for their personal agenda and not for the city. I agree, the people need to get together and vote for a new mayor AND a new council! And for the record, when they show Sherman Miles on TV...they need to show a caption that says Juanita Rich is speaking through Sherman Miles right now! What a puppet!!

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104theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

And who is the puppet master to the mayor? Who is pulling the mayor's strings? Can it be someone in his office? Just asking

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105onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS you seem to know alot about Estech so can you tell us what favorable tax rates and land use preference is proposed for them? I know that the components will be assembled and tested in another Ohio location then be disassembled and sent to the destination site, how long will that take? Sounds like a very intense and drawn out production can it happen in say a few months before they close the doors on the city? We dont have much time the proverbrial clock is a ticking. How much of the $64,300,000.00 (yes 64 million 300 thousand dollars) for the project investment will the city have to pay?
Please dont tell me to go talk to the mayor about it in his office, too many people want to know so just post it here! You know transparency isnt that what its called? You know like everyone was yelling at the last meeting at council about the ISO ratings! That way it will kill 2 birds with one stone, you inform us the residents and <scrolling up> yes you, can help the vindy reporter (as you stated above) "report the news not create it."

Also CMHS seeing though you have all the inside scoop can you tell us if the increase on our water bills for trash will be put back down to the $10 a month seeing though BFI over charged the city for trash and they owe us something $200,000 or so?

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106cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

onlyincampbell
You are 100% correct on the BFI. The mayor is and has been trying to get the contract situated. It was resigned and put in place in 2009 by Dill and Council. Yes they do owe the city about 250k based upon what they have been charging us vs the real collections over the last 5 yrs on extra fees. As for the extra 2$ council considers that a deal that they negotiated only a 2$ increase. Cant answer that one for you.
As for estech, the money to open and operate is coming from the owner of Estech, who is on the board of directors of the VT Group which is a multi billion dollar international Tech Company. They are putting up the money for Estech to start its first US location. There is much fear becuase the chinese want full rights to the technology and would like to open up plants in the US in hopes of putting our energy companies out of business. Think about it, they would control all of our energy, not only do they have our debt but our energy too. This process would allow for the chinese to create energy at a much much cheaper rate then what the electric company can produce there for creating a major problem as a competitor. The scope of this goes well beyond the Mayor, or even Senators, or Gov.
As for the manufacturing the Mayor made the arrangements that they have to move it here, and over the next few years the home office will hopefully follow
For the cities obligations to Estech they would like some tax relief (the cities money will be made from rev sharing very little would come from taxes) and also help in getting the grants for the infastructure of the land in the brown fields for water, sewage, gas, roadways, etc.

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107cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Onlyincampbell
FYI I dont have the scoop, I just go talk to the mayor like I am telling you and all the other citizens to do so.
Again if you think this is BS then drive down to the brownfields on the bridge Jack and Council put in struthers and look at the sign that is posted to start phase 2.
I know the problem is now and that is a seperate issue. I hope, and do believe the mayor will call upon the right people who have made it through these times before in our valley and make the proper cuts, layoffs, or what ever may be required.

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108cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
You make some very valid points. The chinese are interested in the technology becuase it actually produces more energy for a lower cost then coal they are also land locked just like new york, new jersey, etc, multiple cities on where to put there waste.
How and why is the cellulose used it can be compacted into coal and even sold to the energy companies that use it. The fiber in a coal form burns 65% to 80% cleaner then traditional coal. Now at Estech the fiber in its normal state is innert and sterilized prior to the gasification process it heats up with no omissions, not burns but heats up in an air free zone causing the turbines to spin. The amount of time it takes to gasify the fiber taks a very long time. However the muni waste is very profitable. Ex. New York, they pay 180.00 per ton for a tipping fee. Estech can charge them 120.00 which includes the transportation to the city and really save them 100's of millions in costs. while still making a profit. Some of Estechs profit comes from carbon tax credits. They are estimating about 20million a yr just in carbon tax credits. The Mayor attracted them to Campbell becuase we have both rail way companies, affordable labor, affordable land, and also a repressed area that would help them as much as possible to move in to create 250 direct jobs and around 5 mill a yr in rev sharing.
Also there is the recycleables such as aluminum which can be sold directly to Astro Shapes or even help to attract a company to reopen Calex. Next it can attract other companies such as a glass, or plastic plant. If its a stones throw away its cheaper on cost to buy the raw product.

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109cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
The people who get the jobs might not all be Campbell people the jobs are mostly engineering jobs so not all people from Campbell may qualify (but the ones who are will be given first pick), but if you look at the bigger picture that is why the mayor wanted to have a registration fee for landlords and use the money as a move in incentive to help attract the engineers/ employees to buy a house here so it keeps the people living working and spending money in Campbell. However even if they dont live in Campbell the income tax from the employees will still come to the city, the property tax Cambpell only get about 6% of any persons or business total tax they pay (ex. you pay 2k a year in property tax campbell gets 120.00 dollars, not much) The rest goes to the school and the county. It is the revenue sharing that will be more profitable then anything else.

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110MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

That was another brilliant plan that the mayor had! One BS plan after another. YOU CANNOT CHARGE A $1,000 FEE TO LANDLORDS ON EVERY HOUSE they own in a city. You yourself said that George Krazinos lost his rental house due to bad tenant after bad tenant. WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN TO GOOD LANDLORDS THAT LOST TENANTS AND HAD TO PAY A $1,000.00 REGISTRATION FEE EVERY YEAR. This is America, land of opportunity. Let's single out one occupation and hit it for $1,000 every unit. If George was smart, which we all know he's not, why doesn't he charge a fee that would be nominal to the landlord but can equate to a decent chunk of money from all the rentals. Why $1,000.00. He's insane to think anyone would say yes to that. I JUST STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THAT A COMPANY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ONE SITE IN OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO PUT THEIR FIRST SITE INTO CAMPBELL, OHIO. Does anyone on here have any idea of how many jobs (estimate) it would take to take our tax rate from 2.5 to 2? Then to 1.5?

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111cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MichaelG93
You really disappoint me. I read your blogs and you sound very intelligent. I am disappointed becuase again you comment without going to the meetings. The mayor says that the 1000 was just a starting point. It was in a vindi article where he was quoted saying that. Now if you did go to the meetings the Mayor has been trying to work with council to set it up as a 250.00 annual fee. Council will not even entertain that actually he asked even for 100.00 fee but that was turned down. Council is claiming it will hurt those who are on low income, well maybe they should have thought of that when it came to the ISO rating to where now peoples insurance is up 50% to 100%. He knew he had to start extremely high and work his way down. You can insult him all you want but he must have some intelligence to have been elected. If I am not mistaking you are still hiding behind a keyboard, why dont you run for mayor? The only conclusion I can come to is that each member of council has a person who is a friend of theirs that owns multiple rentals, ie. Crim=Vansuch, Crumb=Tedesco, Demar=Rich, and of course Dill=ALL OF COUNCIL. If you wish to comment on items go to caucus and go to council meetings. If you dont like what he is doing then offer help or advice, not be-little him. He is there and he wants the best for the citizens and the city. He holds a town hall meeting every last Monday of the month to listen to the citizens find out what they want and discuss his and their ideas for the city. What mayor has ever done that before????

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112cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
Thank you for the blog everything you are stating is more then correct. I dont believe these people will move here now with the problems you listed however we have to start somewhere and if this company is going to provide the needed cash flow to start to fix these problems we will as a city have a future and the ability later, (not now) to attract these types of people to our community. The homeowner plan was in hopes of the people purchasing now instead of later. It does not guarantee them moving in but is a start. (Very valid points, I am enjoying your comments)

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113cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
I wish I could answer some of your questions you have about the water, I do know it is a self contained facility and no run offs would be needed, and sorting at the origin. These are things I dont know, I would be hesitant to even say the Mayor does. The only permitt the EPA is wanting is the city to give them an opperating permitt. That is the only requirment they need from what I was told, as for the particulars, your guess is as good as mine. If you get a chance look at the site, I dont believe that the Mayor would allow anything that can harm our city to move into it. I do know he has had several waste management professionals look into the process, the director of the green team, and also several engineers who specialize in some type of related field to this type of technology. Sorry but thats the best I can give you. Give the mayor a call I am sure he will find you the answer if he dosnt know.

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114cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
Oh one thing about the tax credits, its not a lone from the bank or an actuall monetary item. Our US gov gives them a break on paying taxes based upon how many tons of waste is processed in a green fashion. The facility can process enough to get about 22million in credits. Normally a company (Just like choice homes a non profit org in youngstown does) can sell them on the secondary market. Ex they can approach a company in Chicago who buys tax credits for 80 to 90 cents on the dollar and then that company in Chicago will resale the tax credits to a corporation in the US who does not get any tax credits or breaks. This is done everyday and is extra money to Estech. The 20MIll was just an estimate not a factual number.

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115cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Paulb
Your last blog almosts states exactly what the Mayor put in his election bio, and breakdown of how he would like to bring back Campbell. From the handouts to the facade grants from the gov. Thats why he feels a grant writer is needed sometime in the city. Before he ran he spent alot of time with the higher up people in offices to learn from them. The problem is he is so tied up just trying to get council to move on one item he cant focus on the major things such as what you listed. I know it seems like he wanted to spend the money on un-needed items but it all boils down to safty, services, and looks to start this process for citizens and business to move in. Something somewhere has got to give and removing the foundation of what is needed to start that process is not the way. Most people are unaware there wsa a 3million dollar carryover from last year. The city will not be broke, the problem is Mr Marshall is making the city live by Shermin Miles and Councils budget which the Mayor kept telling them was not stroung enough. It lacked extra money in the places that was needed only to spend it in places it wasnt. Example paving the streets in the park. The mayor never wanted to close the park just not pave the streets. Council wanted to build a new salt shed for 70k that was not needed, and also spend 80k on wilson avenue. For what???? There are better places for the money like fire/police/roads etc.

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116jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

wow cliff keep it coming

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117MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

JimC51,

Is Paulb Cliff? That makes sense now! I'm going to post on here once I do my research on this company. I've checked the one company out but don't know the other company. CMHS, what's the other company that is spending over 50 million in our city? Let me guess, it's hush hush..

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118jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

no, cmhs is cliff ahahhaa

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119lettruthbtold(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

To igotsomethintosay,
It seems you got a lot to say & also a few different names to hide behind.
And for the record, when they show George Krinos on TV...they need to show a caption that says Denise Sarigianopoulos,the Police Chief's Wife & OVERPAID Mayor's Secretary, is speaking through George Krinos right now! What a puppet is Right!!
To CMHS68,
You're always talking about people hiding behind their keyboards; what the h*** do you consider yourself doing??
You have so much information because you talk to the Mayor like all other citizens should?? Give me a break!! You have so much information because you work for him!! You only want the citizens to come down & talk to the mayor & secretary so they can be fed w/ lies, such as all of the one's you're constantly writing on this site!
The people don't need to go to Council Meetings to know what's going on; it's blasted all over the media constantly. We're the laughing stalk of the Mahoning County.And if I'm not mistaking, I believe our Mayor likes to be a member of the Audience instead of staying in his seat where the audience is able to ask him questions.Is that how the people are supposed to talk to him;in the audience?
Tell me when have you ever seen one of our Mayor's do such a thing of that nature?
Bottom line, he's not fit for the job.He bit off more than he could chew & told one too many lies which is what got him elected!
And you need to find something better to do w/ your time & our time than to post lies & stories on this site 24hrs/day; including your work day.Maybe you should try doing something what us working people like to call "your job" for a day instead of writing online all day everyday. This is like High School all over again!
Grow UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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120theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

could not have said it better my self!!!

The city operating budget is around 3 million dollars a year if I'm not mistaken. So how could they have a 3 million dollar surpuls from last year?

Why is the state oversight person saying the city is broke and will run out of money by October or Novermner? Is he the one that not telling the truth or is it cmhs68?

keep drinking the kool-aid it will be over soon

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121L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

From what I gather I was under the impression that Campbell had enough money to last for the next 5 years at the current rate they are going. So I thought dooms day was at a 5 year count down.

Hopefully for Campbell these two businesses do arrive and contrary to what Onlyincampbell says, and here is my opinion since you asked for it, I am excited for these two comanies to come in. They are in fact up to your EPA standards and do not require permits excpet one to operate. They do not produce ash, smell nor will create a landfill. I would assume that these two companies would take about two years to get up and running if they need to build so we will make the 5 year dooms day by 3 years. If the 5 million a year revenue sharing is correct that will double Campbell's revenue thus opening the door to a whole new Campbell.

Paulb. Rgarding your posts very informative, impartial and yes positive. This is exactly what needs to take place in order to get the city of Campbell up and running again. Not negative bickering that MichaelG93, Onlyincampbell. Letruthbtold, Brkfldwrr621 and others if I missed any have been spewing on here. Campbell needs optimists, people thinking outside the box and those willing to make a change. The people have spoken and voted Krinos in obviously because tehy want that change. Council needs to work with him in order to invoke that change.

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122theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL

read the above vindy article. Marshal said the city will run out of money this October a far cry from 5 years from now.

If the mayor does not make cuts soon then October will turn into August or July. The mayor is the one that hired people that wern't in the budget to be hired. Its on his shoulders now, he has the power to hire, fire, and lay employees off. Council only appropriates the money into the different city codes they do not have the power to lay employees off

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123onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS you said no permits would be needed for this municipal waste system right?

Well I called the EPA yesterday. They know nothing of this Estech Company but they said at minimum it would seem they would need a solid waste permit, and possibly a surface water runoff permit. They are going to be calling Schiavoni's office about this.

I also did some reaserch on this autoclave method that CMHS is talking about. You know when something sounds tooooo good to be true it is? Well I think that saying applies here. I'll be posting them here in a bit in a section strictly about this.

I think its time to get L.U.V up and running again how many of the original organizers you think would be willing to to do this? I say Let Us Vote on this autoclave plant.

Also CMHS you made a very false statement above it was not council who offered the street dept.a salt shed it was your mayor. He asked them what they wanted a salt shed, a truck or another worker. They told him "Bring Gary Back" That is just another fine example of his "lie"ability

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124onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I'm sorry LOL if I have offended you in some way the things I post on here are in fact truths and I'm not bickering with anyone, if thats the way you view it then you better include CMHS in with us. or are you and CMHS one in the same?

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125onthetown(254 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

If there is a $3 million budget surplus from last year as claimed by CMHS68..

1) Why are we even having this conversation?

2) Why is the city designated as being in a state of "fiscal emergency" and why do they continue to be overseen by the Financial Planning and Supervision Commission?

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126onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I would like to know the same thing! Where is this surplus? why didnt the Oversight commission find it? Huh I wonder.....maybe council has it burried somewhere? maybe the finance director has it burried somewhere? Or maybe Mr. Marshall does? I know its another conspiracy against the mayor! And the State is involved and in cahoots with council.
Or just maybe it DOESN'T exist!

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127lettruthbtold(2 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

To LOL, igotsomethintosay, & cmhs68
(although I should only have to address one of your screen names, but I'll humor you! LOL!)
How many times are you going to say
"The people have spoken and voted Krinos in obviously because tehy want that change. Council needs to work with him in order to invoke that change."??
It's getting a little old & repititious. Had the people of the city known what they know now about the Mayor, I highly doubt they'd elect him into office. The people were ready for a change & thought he might be a good one, but are finding out now they were wrong. He was elected based off of his lies, which the people are all seeing now & are getting disgusted w/ it!
How about the Mayor working w/ Council?? They apparently know some things he doesn't & he could learn a lot from them if he'd quit fighting w/ them & only wanting to do things his way, which happen to have been the wrong way thus far. Answer me this, where were all of these 3listed above screen names the past 10 years?? There was never any of this bashing of our city's Council until our new Mayor entered office! You have to blame someone,right? So let's just blame Council for everything.
What's wrong w/ this picture? You're saying ALL 5 Council Members, the Law Director, & the State Officials are all wrong & Mayor Krinos is Right???

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128onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

can anyone one here tell me EXACTLY what all council has fought this mayor on besides his budget? I really really would like to know.

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129MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

lettruthbtold, Not only is Denise saying that, she is also saying that there is a conspiracy theory that the council wants to do the city wrong and George is the only one doing something right. Bryan Tedesco, Juanita, Red, everybody there are crooks and they have their personal agenda's but Mayor Krazinos doesn't. You know what's crazy, when I was running the park two years ago; I was Bryan and the Ex Mayor in the Community Center carrying water out of there. There was a water break inside of the place and these two were in there fixing water pipes and making sure of the electrical outlets inside. I asked why they didn't get a company in there to do it and they said, "We don't have the money." Bryan then looks at the mayor and says, "Tell him who snow plows city hall for us?" Again, the mayor says, "I do." That's may take matters to extreme but at least it shows how council and the mayor look to save money. I would love to see a problem at city hall and the mayor trying to fix it. What a joke that would be. Bryan Tedesco works his a** off ALL DAY LONG and then comes and does whatever he can to make the city better. The problem with council is none of them have the balls to put this craziness of the mayor's out on the streets. When Mayor Krazinos says that council won't work with him, they need to let the public know what he asking from them. Budget, his was not do-able by law. $1000.00 to landlords, absolutely un-passable, Hiring Edwin Torres over Shermin Miles, ludacris. Not sure if Shermin is the best in the world but he has working experience. Contrary to Denise's other post, Mr. Torres does not have his masters degree. Whoops, wrong again!!!!

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130L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"theword"- "he has the power to hire, fire, and lay employees off. Council only appropriates the money"
-- Are you sure?? Because hes been trying to get rid of the finance director that has absolutely no work experience with money only degrees that shows hes been a full time career student.

"Onlyincampbell" Its not about being offended its about lets all stop biiiching and do something about it. I want the city to move forward rather tahn argue about it not. Furthermore I am not cmhs. Ive been on vindy for awhile now and just like paulb said go to my other posts and you will not see a connection.

Also it was the previous mayor who was going to build the salt shed. As for "big gary" and for the other poster who said campbell didnt have the money to hire back employees, im not being a smartazz but it will come off that way, know what you're talking about before you speak. "Big Gary" was brought back at basically no loss to the city. There is a street dept worker getting ready to retire and was moved to the park where he will be paid from teh park fund since hes working up there now. "Big Gary" simply took his spot. The worker that was moved to the park will probably being burning sick time anyway, which wouldve been paid to him anyway, so there is no more money coming out of the street dept than there was before.

"onthetown" You asked why we're even having this conversation, why is campbell in fiscal emergency and why there is a comittee? Well its simple. First and foremost I dont remember if it was you or not but someone said then why is this article in the paper? Well just because its in the papaer doesnt make it true. Jeanie Starmack is more interested in writing a soap opera rather than printing facts, which she should be sticking to but doesnt. We're in fiscal emergency because there needs to be a 5 year plan set up. Campbell has the money but no plan. The previous mayor delayed getting one in order to stay in receivership.

"lettehtruthbtold" What you just stated is no where near the truth Im not even going to comment.

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131theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

talk about crooks? how long was it since the state auditors office found a finding against the chief of police for illegally paying himself money that wasn't in the pay ordinance?

www.auditor.state.oh.us/AuditSearch/....

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132L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

"onlyincampbell" The council and previous mayor did alot from the start to show that they were not going to work with Krinos.

First and foremost Dill pulled his secretary from the mayors office. One that he has always had. Why would he pull her right before Krinos came in?

The council has regularly fought the mayor at him picking his own finance director. Which all previous mayors had their own pick without any problems from council. Why all of a sudden Krinos cant pick his? The charter states that the council has only the ability to approve the candidate based on his resume. It states no where that they are the final say so and can pick or choose. They can only "approve" the candidate the mayor puts in front of them. I hope Im explaining that right. Basically if the mayor fires the finance director he needs to find a qualified candidate to replace the old one. It doesnt state council has to agree or like the replacement only approve based on teh resume. Maybe torres wasnt right for the job but find someone who is. Council is taking it a step further and refusing to let Krinos replace the finance director that served under the previous mayor. Wouldnt you want someone in that position you could trust?

Ican go on but those are the two that jump out to me right now. I cant remember anymore at the moment. My point is they all need to work together. The council stood by for ten years and let blindly let Dill run the city. Now all of a sudden they want to speak up and do things?

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133onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I do not have a problem what so ever with Gary being brought back he is 100% needed the street department lacks the help. If it wasn't for Gary, Mike and Troy nothing and I repeat nothing would get done. So I hope I cleared up the misunderstanding of what I was saying. Those 3 work their a$$es off.

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134theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL

Ya I'm sure about that. The finance director has to approved by council!!!

Get a charter book or better yet stop in the mayor's office and ask him what the charter says about appointments

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135L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I wasnt saying you were against Gary I was just using that as an example of the money situation. He wasnt just brought back for the hell of it. It was due to a near future retirement and a guy moving out of the street dept.

theword- Im very well versed in the charter. The section concerning the finance director is being interpreted by council that council has the final say so over who the finance director is. This is wroing. They can only approve or not approve of a candidate based on qualifications not say no because they want sherman to stay there. If a candidate is put in front of them and is qualified then the mayor should be able to hire him. They can only say yay or nay to the resume, not the person. Therefore what they are doing is wrong. Every other mayor had his own choice on finance directors why cant Krinos?

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136jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL, Mayor Dill pulled his secretary out #1 she was getting harrassing phone calls right after election and #2 he offered to stay on with his secretary to help Krinos get settled in and Krinos said he didn't need any help..so thats what REALLY happened.

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137L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Really jimc51? And he did all of this from his home? After Dill lost the election he was at city hall maybe a handfull of times. If you recall, he had quite of a bit of time left but I guess he didnt feel like working after he lost. Theres no way that offer was made. He spent his last days making changes and operations difficult for Krinos upon entering office.

People need to realize Campbell didnt go into the perverbial shiiiter overnight when Krinos was elected. It had already been on a downward spiral over the last ten years under Dill. Now does Krinos have all of the answers? Probably not but how about council gives him a shot and works with him to see what he can do? First and foremost they shold allow him to pick his own finance director like every other mayor has. Council can decide of the person is qualified or not but forcing sherman miles down his throat is not the right way to go. The administration needs to work together if change is really able to be made.

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138campbellcitizen(25 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

This is what I would like to see done by the mayor, can he do it, or will he do it is the next thing:

1. Study the ORC on fiscal emergency and know what he can and cant do. It's full of vital and usable information.

2. Rescind all proposed & sponsored spending on high end items or anything over $1000. in any one month.

3. Hold all departments responsible for staying within their respective budgets and find ways to cut spending where ever possible.

4. (a) Have the fire cheif commence taking applications for VOLUNTEER fireman no part time we can't afford that

(b) Request to see all reports pertaining to and insuring that all equipment is meeting the testing requirements, and fire fighters are recieveing the training as required, that ISO informed us is not taking place.

5. Give the citizens complete disclosure in the form of a press release in writing (not an oral presentation) in reguards to ESTECH USA

I think we the residents should be a deciding factor on wheather this should even be considered to our community. Give us proven current data from gov. agencys's on how safe this is and what if any enviromental harm can be caused.

I dont want CMHS or LOL's words on it I want it in writting. No offence to you two its just I feel this needs to come from the mayor and not anyone else.

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139MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,
I'm no genius but I swear every November the mayor takes a week to two weeks and goes hunting. As a matter of fact, you can ask any city employee, council member, anyone who does anything at city hall and ask them for the past 10 years if he left to go hunting after election time. The answer is yes. He didn't leave this time to cause any difference. He left just like he did the year before and the year before and so on and so on. You and CMHS say to people to get their facts straight, why don't you. Here's the problem with this blog. We give truthful statements about actual stuff happening and you two go on blurrs and give information that isn't true. HOW ABOUT THIS. MY BEST EXAMPLE TO WHY GEORGE KRAZINOS SHOULDN'T BE MAYOR. WE DON'T HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD TAKE HIM WITH HIS SKILL LEVEL.

POLICE DEPT- POLICE CHIEF GUS- WOULD YOU HIRE SOMEONE WHO REPEATEDLY SHOT HIS GUN IN CHAOS? NO

WATER DEPT- JOE T. WOULD YOU HIRE SOMEONE WHO HAD A HISTORY OF PUTTING THE WRONG CHEMICALS INTO THE WATER TO TREAT IT? NO

STREET DEPT- WOULD YOU HIRE A GUY WHO EVERYTIME YOU ASK FOR A SHOVEL HE GIVES YOU A RAKE?

THOSE EXAMPLES ARE THE SAME AS THE WAY GEORGE KRAZINOS HANDLES HIS FINANCES!!!!!!!! BUT YET THEIR ARE PEOPLE HAPPY AS H*LL TO PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF OUR FINANCES. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!

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140L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MichaelG93,
What makes your staments facts and not mine? Everything you say is gospel and mine is fable right?

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141MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Lol, Case and Point!!!!

Your March 18th blog, "I'm sure the meeting that council had without the new mayor had the old mayor in attendance. Seems that dill is still controlling his puppets." FALSE, YOU AND CMHS ACT LIKE COUNCIL AND THE OLD MAYOR ARE TRYING TO HARM OUR CITY!!!

Your March 6th blog, "The mayor's budget shows a surplus of $140,000, the finance's budget shows only +$30,000. You would think it's a no brainer but then again when the council is involved the term "no brainer" gives a whole new meaning." His budget WAS FULL OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO! YOU CAN'T PULL MONEY FROM HERE AND PUT IT THERE AND PUT SOME OF IT HERE! He won't even talk about his budget anymore because of how idiotic it was!

Your Feb 6th blog, "Before any passes judgment on Krinos look past him and at the council who is blocking him from doing anything. Can't blame a mayor for anything if the council does not let him do anything." GEORGE KRAZINOS SPENT OVER 100K WHILE IN OFFICE ON HIRING PEOPLE THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD. AGAIN, HE COULD SPEND MONEY WITH THE BEST OF THEM BUT NEVER COULD SEEM TO PAY HIS WAY OUT! DO I HAVE TO GO ON.......

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142TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

you know if the mayor was smart, all he would have to do is read this blog and write his budget for the state with all the info on here after everyone else has done his work for him again.

First,I want to clear this Estech USA issue up. Have any of you that believe the mayor actually called or looked over their website?
This is their legal info:Estech USA LLC is aware that other companies are:

1) engaged in unauthorized use of photographs, videos and data of Estech-developed systems,
2) making claims to having developed the capabilities of Estech systems, or
3) making claims that contracts were awarded in the United States or abroad for waste treatment systems based upon technology developed by Estech.

The only web sites of companies currently authorized to use and advertise Estech-developed systems using materials and data on this web site or using other intellectual property rights from Estech USA LLC are:

1) www.estecheurope.com; and
2) www.estechUSAllc.com

Any other use of materials and data on this web site or obtained from Estech violates Estech’s intellectual property rights.

Estech USA LLC is the original developer and current exclusive owner of the technology described on this web site, as well as the owner of all associated intellectual property rights (including patent, trade secret and copyrights) pertaining to the Estech-developed autoclave and related waste treatment systems. Estech USA intends to vigorously enforce intellectual property rights in the Estech-developed autoclave technology.

Any questions regarding the origin or ownership of the Estech-developed autoclave technology are welcomed and should be directed to Estech USA LLC using the contact information provided. If you have any questions regarding the origin of advertised autoclave and related waste treatment systems that are the same or appear similar to those depicted on this web site, or which purport to achieve results similar to those obtained using Estech-developed autoclave and related waste treatment systems, please do not hesitate to contact us.

The contents of all material available on this web site are copyrighted by Estech USA LLC. Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Estech USA LLC. All trademarks and trade names used on this web site are owned by Estech USA LLC.

Again this company has no plants in the usa and is only doing site prep of cost analysis in hundreds of usa locations and campbell just happens to be one of them. No promise to commit here!!

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143TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Second , This whole blog is about how this city will be broke in 6 months . Out of all the people that defend the mayor there is not one solution on how this problem is getting fixed .Its all in 4 and 5 year time frame for savings, guess what the city doesn't have that time frame.

the mayor hired and gave raises since he has been in office and spent excess on items that were not really needed. What the mayor has created he has the power to take away . But he dosen't have the balls or the intelligence and nor experience to do it.

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144TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MichaelG93 i really have to commend you on the info you have posted and what a great job of informing everyone on the mayor.

I would almost bet if the IRS did an audit of his financial firm they would find the exact same crap he his trying to pull here with his budget.

For the naysayer's don't even say his personal finances matter, because buy the looks of the judgements on credit card balances , its looks like he just kept transfering balances to other cards to free up more money to spend, but never paying back the amounts on other cards .

Now please tell me how that does not translate to what he is trying to do to the city.

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145jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL campbell was in a bad way long before Jack Dill took office. Then buisnesses started closing up and we lost revenue..so nice try blaming Dill once again for the cities problems. and If this city closes up, i will blame Krinos, he came in spending like he does in his personal life and we're going down just like he is.

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146L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MichaelG93 you have it all figured out! You shoudl run for mayor next ekection and save us all!!!! First, regarding the budget you're allowed to allocate money from other departments as long as employees are working in that department. One example is the park budget which has an absorbant amount of money in a dept that barely spends any money. The workers in teh finance dept were going to have to do some work in the park this year regarding several festivals and other small activities going on. There time put forth during these activities would allow them to be paid from the park dept thus allowing some financial relief in their budget. This is not ILLEGAL.

Second regarding all of the money that he is supposedly spending I'll repeat the hiring back of Gary in case you didnt read or understand what I typed earlier michaelg93. A street dept worker was moved from the street dept to teh park for the remainder of his career which will be ending soon when he retires sometime this summer or fall. This opened up a vacancy in the street dept which was filled with Gary being recalled back. Now the worker that went to the park will most likely be using up sick time which he will not even be at work the most time. Which inevitably would leave the street dept short. His sick time will now be paid out of the park fund which has an excess of money. Capish?

I second that thetruth. MichaelG93 just has all of the answers I cant wait to vote for him next election.

Jimc51, You;re right. Dill wasnt the SOLE reason Campbell went downhill but he sure did contribute. Ask him about all of the saturday 6 am morning auctions he had selling city property to his son, who was the only one in the audience, for peanuts. At the start of his term he attempted to get his son into teh fire dept. but did not suceed. Maybe thats the origin for his attempts to dismantle teh dept. Now, some ten years later his son iks a millionare. Campbell was sure good to his son...

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147jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

His son has done us a favor by purchasing properties, knocking down buildings and restoring houses to SELL. All I know is, the state never had to come in and tell Jack to stop spending, He followed their guidlines and kept us afloat..Campbell will never be what it once was, but at least Dill was able to pay the workers and pay the bills. Its a fact when a city is getting hit hard financially the first to take hits are the fire fighters and police depts. I don't agree with that, but thats the way it is. And Jacks son didn't become what he is today only by buying houses and properties in Campbell. He went to college and worked hard for what he has. Many investors are buying in Campbell and many are out of town or state and those out of state are not keeping up with what they bought, they are letting them sit and run into the ground.

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148onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Truthfully all this makes me sick.

When I balance my check book each month I go over what can spend and what I cant.This city is no different.
We cant afford things that the mayor wants. You can blame Dill all you want, truth of the matter is, as Jimc said, Dill did all he could with what he had you didnt see him hiring a fire fighter and proposing a bunch of spending.

Truth is ALL dept. are over budget already in the 1st quarter, there are some unpopular things the mayor and council will HAVE to do to cut spending.

How about some real ideas on what to do, not this bickering and sniffling over council wont let the mayor have his own finance director. Or council didnt use his budget. Its time to look past this and figure out how to get us out of the mess we're in. I think the city's financial situation is more important to resolve, not this other crap, its getting old.

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149walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

When I was a young lad growing up on the south side and would go out in the early morning, I would ask my mother what that horrible smell was in the air. She would reply "Campbell". Ahh... no matter how the times change, some things still stay the same!

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150MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL, Again YOU POST LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES. YOU SHOULD NOT BE POSTING IF YOU LEAVE IN THE LAND OF MAKE BELIEVE. I MADE SURE I GOT MY FACTS RIGHT BEFORE RE-POSTING AND WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO ON THIS POST.

1. "First, regarding the budget you're allowed to allocate money from other departments as long as employees are working in that department. One example is the park budget which has an absorbent amount of money in a dept that barely spends any money. The workers in the finance dept were going to have to do some work in the park this year regarding several festivals and other small activities going on. There time put forth during these activities would allow them to be paid from the park dept thus allowing some financial relief in their budget. This is not ILLEGAL." FALSE. THIS IS ILLEGAL. YOU MOVED A GUY TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT THAT HASN'T WORKED ONE DAY IN THE PARK. THIS IS ILLEGAL. I WILL BET ANYONE ON HERE THAT ONCE THIS IS BROUGHT TO ATTENTION THAT A GUY IS BEING PAID OUT OF THE PARK FUND BUT HASN'T WORKED ONE DAY THERE THAT THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BACK!!! ASK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN TWO EMPLOYEES GOT LAID OFF AND THEY WENT TO ARBITRATION TO GET PAID THRU THE STREET DEPT. Verdict was that any PERSON who works for the park department is SEASONAL. What they are doing right now is ILLEGAL.

2." Dill wasn’t the SOLE reason Campbell went downhill but he sure did contribute. Ask him about all of the Saturday 6 am morning auctions he had selling city property to his son, who was the only one in the audience, for peanuts. At the start of his term he attempted to get his son into the fire dept. but did not succeed. Maybe that’s the origin for his attempts to dismantle the dept. Now, some ten years later his son is a millionaire. Campbell was sure good to his son..." YOU ARE AN IDIOT TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT. It’s ACCURATE TO SAY THAT CAMPBELL FIRE DEPARTMENT PLACED AN AD FOR THE HIRING OF A NEW FIREMAN. HIS SON PLACE 1ST ON THE TEST AND DIDN'T GET HIRED. HE COULD HAVE EASILY HIRED HIS SON IF HE WANTED TO. ALSO, YOU TOLD A FLAT OUT LIE ABOUT SATURDAY AUCTIONS. WHAT THE H*LL IS THAT????? THERE HAS NEVER, I MEAN NEVER BEEN AN AUCTION IN THE CITY OF CAMPBELL FOR HOMES. . YOU’RE A MORON!! MAHONING COUNTY HOLDS SHERIFF SALE AUCTIONS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I KNOW BECAUSE I WENT DOWN THERE MYSELF AND BOUGHT ONE. ACTUALLY, I WAS HELPED BY HIS SON WHILE DOWN THERE. WHY DO YOU MAKE UP LIES LIKE THESE???

BTW, IT TOOK ME A LITTLE LONGER TO POST BECAUSE I HAD TO FIX ALL YOUR MISSPEALINGS IN YOUR QUOTES!!!

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151theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I agree that it is illegal to pay someone out of the park fund that is NOT a part employee. If the street department guy was moved to the park then he better be working at the park and no where else. If he is driving a street department truck and working with them guys then it Is ILLEAGLY to pay him out of the park fund.

For the finance people working at the park it is also ILLEGAL to pay them out of the park fund, they are not park employees. Hope the state auditors office don't find out about this because this will put the street department further in a hole that they will not be able to get out of once they have to pay back the park fund

also, why don't you ask the mayor's secretary how her son got a part time job, a few years ago, in the police department. I guess he was the best person for the job right?

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152Brkfldwrrr621(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Sounds like it's time for the tough decsions to be made and oo by the way Who is chris

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153L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

jimc51, you're making Dill's son out to be the savior of the Campbell slums...hardly. I dont know of one house he's bought, remodeled and sold. I think his investments were in buying property and flipping it. Real easy to buy property for a $1 and make a profit. And maybe you're right about Dill never being told to not spend but there is two reasons why.
1. Council never opposed, or even knew about, anything he did. Therefore his spending wouldnt of been an issue.
2. He kept us in receivership for how long? Oh ya. Its ok to be in receivership and not move the city forward just as long as no one is bittchin about the spending.

MichaelG93, you're just an idiot. I lie? How about you have no clue what you're talking about. The street dept worker is working in the park therefore he gets paid from the park. Last time I checked it wasnt illegal to move a guy to a dept, have him WORK there and get paid from it.

"ALSO, YOU TOLD A FLAT OUT LIE ABOUT SATURDAY AUCTIONS. WHAT THE H*LL IS THAT????? THERE HAS NEVER, I MEAN NEVER BEEN AN AUCTION IN THE CITY OF CAMPBELL FOR HOMES. ."

You're absolutely right! But please show me where I wrote the auctions were for homes......crickets I hear...... oh ya, I didnt. I said property. There is alot of property besides ones that have houses sitting on them. And Campbell may not be the only reason his son did well. Yes college and other investments did contribute but its easier to pay for college and have money to invest when you're squeezing it out of the city your dad is running. Take the blinders off and get off Dill's tit MichealG93.

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154L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Onlyincampbell I have to agree. Its time to work together. However "together" requires both sideas to give a little. Not just the mayor. Council needs to put their agendas to the side as well so everyone can work together for one common goal. Moving Campbell forward.

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155MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

AGAIN LOL, LIES. Your comment, "You're absolutely right! But please show me where I wrote the auctions were for homes......crickets I hear...... oh ya, I didn’t. I said property. There is a lot of property besides ones that have houses sitting on them." YOU’RE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS, PRESENT A FACT! ACTUALLY SHOW PROOF OF YOUR LIE! AGAIN, THERE IS NOT ONE PROPERTY, PARCEL, ADDRESS THAT YOUR LIE IS CENTERED AROUND. About your street dept info, I jog the park ALOT and Never seen that gentleman working up there. Must be off by 2pm!!!

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156MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I HAVE A VINDICATOR ACTICLE THOUGHT FOR JULY 16TH, 2010. George Krinos is going to have to lay people off that he PROMISED he wouldn't do to them. Instead of sitting with them face to face, HE'S GOING TO RESIGN AND SAY that he just can't let people go and it's not in him to do so. This will be his way out and he'll blame council for the lay-offs, not him. Watch and see how this plays out!!!!

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157jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL, flipping pretty much is the same thing as i said..purchasing, restoring then selling.

I haven't heard anything on the news of the hearing that went on yesterday..anyone hear anything?

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158onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@jimc51

the word on the streets is as follows:

Place a 3.0 mil 5 yr. levy on the ballot for Nov. to provide the city with add. services for 1st responders matching grants for street paving, and cover add. cost as seen needed by the mayor city administrator finance dir. and counil

start collecting outstanding parking tickets from 1985 to present.

only collect half of what was over paid to BFI (and from what I hear they were only charging the city $8 per household so I really wonder why we are now being charged $12.)

change the health ins. plan for city employees

add an add. $3.20 but not more than $4.00 on our water bills for street light funds

And of course once again this street sweeper/catch basin truck (he has a real fetish with this)

Theres more I'm sure. Have to wait and see wednesday night at council meeting to see how much of this is truth.

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159onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Oh the hearing I'm sorry jim I thought you were talking about the meeting last night.

Krinos had it postponed til the end of the month

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160jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

onlyincampbell, wellll hmmmm I won't vote for anymore mill levys, enough is enough in my opinion. why are we responsible for the street lights? i thought the electric company takes care of that? as for the street sweeper thing..he probablys owes money or favors to someone.
I do have another question..the extra $20 that we pay in our license plate tags? wasn't that for street repairs? where has that money been going? and before anyone posts Jack Dill used it..that was done by mayors years before Dill..I HEARD it was being used to pay back a loan previous mayor took out..i think back when Tablack was our mayor? i could be wrong.

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161onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

jimc51, I'm with you on the levy's! The one that was strictly for paving and street repairs was defeated a few years ago, now he's suggesting putting a broader based levy with absolutly NO specific target for the money, wow amazing!

The street lights I dont know why all at once we are expected to pay that. Once its on the water bills it will never be repealed we all know that. It totally ticks me off that it would even be suggested. You cant justify putting something like that on the backs of the citizens and expect us to dole out even more on our water bills, while in the mean time your spending or proposing to spend money on unwarrented things. Yeah I would love to own a jag and retire old Besty but truth of the matter is, I'd much rather have my lights stay on. So I opt for paying my electric bill, and forget the jaguar. It would just sit in the garage collecting dust because we couldnt afford the maintanance and insurance. And lets face on this one the ends dont justify the means. It would be cheaper in the long run to just rent one.

The registration fee's thats a really good question we'd like to know the same thing!

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162Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I had so many fond memories growing up in Campbell. Playing baseball at Roosevelt Park in the summer (even though I was fat and terrible). Walking a few blocks to Mico Dairy to buy penny candies. However, it's pretty obvious that the only way the town will survive is to become a part of Youngstown. The place has been on a downward spiral for years....maybe Krinos didn't make the right decisions but the writing was on the wall long before he came. I live FAR from the area now but I do hope Campbell does not go without any type of Police or Fire as I have plenty of love ones still living there.

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163L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MichaelG93, heres some addresses you requested.
158 REED LOT 121 50 X 150
DILL KEVIN 460070437000
50 THIRTEENTH ST LOT 120 50 X 150
DILL KEVIN 460090517000
476 BLOSSOM AVE LOT 1870 72.5 X 201
DILL KEVIN 460120160000
251 HAROLD LN LOT 6228 66 X 150
DILL KEVIN & 460030398000 PENHALE.

Now please shut up.

Onlyincampbell, I heard about a few of those articles as well. The health insurance will actually be a big saver for Campbell if they switch to it. From what I gather the amount the city will be responsible will be cut in half then and if that amount is used up by the employee the ins company foots the bill 100%. The reason tehyre able to do that is because the city is covering the first allocated amount and alot of employess probably wouldnt even exceed that amount therefore the ins company would never have to pay a dime for them. For the employees who go over the amount the ins will kick in. Ive heard of it before but cant recall the name for it. I hope I explained it good for you, thats the best way I remember it.

As for the sweeper/vac truck something needs to be done. The city just paid about $25,000 to sweep the streets and at mediocre job at that. I would assume if you buy a truck that you can do it yourself with, maybe even twice a year since we'd own it, then over time it would pay for itself.Instead of paying $25,000 every year.

I know for a fact about the street lights. Each city is required to foot the bill for them it just varies on how they pass off the costs to teh citizens. Wether or not theyre blatant about it and tell tehm or trhough taxes, fees or whatever. Also, its usually a flat rate no matter how many lights are actually WORKING. This means that the ones that are burnt out are still being paid for. So if you have 1,000 street lights in your city, you are paying for 1,000 street lights even if 200 of them are burnt out. Theres something to get on your councilmen about. Better yet I do believe brian todesco works for ohio edison, give him a call.

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164devildog(96 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

funny how CMHS68 hasn't been posting lately AND funny how LOL is saying all the same things as CMHS....hmmmmm

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165jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL, I don't think anyone said Dill didn't own properties in Campbell..post all the other properties owned by out of town companies..there are wayyyyyyyyy many more than Dill owns. If he has the means to buy and fix up and sell..why shouldn't he? I sure would.

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166theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Yes LOL and CHMS68 do write and talk the same..

Isn't a shame that she has to use two different screen names to get her point across. I guess the phones arn't ringing in the Mayor's office

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167theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

If the mayor thinks we are going to pass a levy so he can hire and pay his political hacks more money then he is in dream land..

I thought he was bringing in businesses that were going to employ 300 + people and save the city, why do we need to pass a levy?

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168theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL

I see that you comment on other police post on vindy.

Just wondering if you know any campbell police officers?

I know one of them officer Gulu, nice kid don't u think?

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169jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

IF we should have to shut down..can't we become a township? have volunteer fire dept. county sheriffs why would we have to merge with Youngstown?

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170theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

If we become a township aren't we going to have the same problems?

You have people in office that can't control spending. Until they get out of office you'll have the same problems weather your a township of city

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171L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Townships still have to pay for services with the exception fo the volunteer fire dept but theres still costs there. Do you think the Sheriffs dept patrols for free? Ask Canfield township how much they pay and with the shortage of deputies and tehir possible layoffs tehy wont be around to do it anyway.

And to all of the people who have esp... I am not, nor do I know, who cmhs is. I have posted on many other blogs and on the discussion forum. Im not sure if you can even see start dates but Im pretty sure Ive been around longer than cmhs has. Also, Im an individual. I dont have to jump on someone elses band wagon. Despite all of the opposition I face in opinions I stand behind mine. At least I have a positive attitude about getting Campbell to move forward. I WANT Campbell to succeed. I dont care if the current council or finance director stays or goes just as long as they all can work together and move forward!!! And that means cooperation on both sides. Council needs to remember that the voters put Krinos there because they wanted him there. Its time to work with him and actually see what he can do. Instead he spends his time fighting council. Very counter-productive.

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172jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I always thought Townships have trustees, and no mayor. Our water dept, street dept would all be run by the county, right? Our health dept. is already run by the county.
@LOL, i too wish they could work together, but i don't want council letting Krinos do something he isn't allowed to do or spend what he can't. I'm one that thinks council is working FOR us by not just letting him do what he wants or can't do..if they allow him to spend like he wants to, we will go down sooner than Oct.

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173theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Canfield twp pays the sheriff's department 200,000.00 dollars a year for full time coverage in the township.

Thats a far cry from the million dollars the city pays for their own pd

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174jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL where is the $20 extra we pay for our license plates going? obviously not to the roads..(since you seem to have the inside scoop)

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175MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,

AGAIN ALL LIES. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GET BEAT UP ALL THE TIME FOR TELLING LIES. THEN THE WHOLE FAMILY AROUND YOU SAY'S "OH MY GREGGY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING". MAKE SURE NOBODY FINDS OUT YOUR IDENTITY ON HERE. TELLING ALL THESE LIES CAN GET YOU IN A POSITION YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN. TRUTHS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE HANDLE THEIR FINANCES ARE ONE THING BUT LIES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE HANDLE THEIR FINANCES, NOT GOOD!!! IF SOMEBODY OWNS PROPERTY AND BUYS IT THRU MAHONING COUNTY SHERIFF SALE AUCTIONS OR FINDS GOOD DEALS ON PROPERTY, WHAT MAKES IT DISHONEST? THIS POST HAS GONE OFF THE SUBJECT OF WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TALKING ABOUT. GEORGE KRINOS IS A MORON!!! I SAW YESTERDAY IN THE PAPER HE REQUESTED A CHANGE IN VENUE IN HIS CASE AGAINST THE CATERING COMPANY BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T GET A FAIR TRIAL HERE IN MAHONING COUNTY. WHAT A JOKE!

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176L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Jimc51,
not sure about the water & street dept. I know Poland township has their own street dept still. I think the daily activities continue but Campbell would not be responsible for everything that they are not. Since we own the water dept im not sure about that one. But ya, we would go to trustees with a city controller. Since we are a charter govenrment the people would have to vote on that one. And I dont want Krinos running around with a blank checkbook either but on what you said about council working for us, you're sadly mistaken. They definitley do have their own agendas but unfortuantely we can sit here all day and argue what that is.

Rich, has tried for pres of council & mayor and lost at both.
Tedesco, has stated previously that he wants to be the mayor but wouldnt run against Dill.
Mozzoco, STATED in his own words he does it for the health bennies but recently handed in his resignation.
Tsikoris, a follower.

At least thats my take on it. I too just want things ran right and everyone working together.

Theword,
the Campbell pd doesnt cost 1 million to run. Also, if the healthcare ins is switched to what Krinos proposed it will be even more cost efficient. Also, with the Sheriffs dept you get what you pay for. Canfield township has ONE car in the area at all times for that 200,000. Ask them how much crime they have too. You get what you pay for.

and last but not least MichaelG93,
No lies and are you threatening me? I sure hope not. Not that I will go tell on you or file a report or anything. I just know that I wouldnt have to worry about you thats all. If anyones gonna get beat up on here its not me. I garauntee that. So will you just GFY already. You come on here posting in all caps and acting like a jackass.

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177theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

How much does the campbell pd cost the city to run with salarys, insurance, and the jail? I bet its pretty close if not over a million dollars

And for the comment you get what you pay for how many campbell pd officers went to jail for corruption? How about paying themselves money that wasn't in their pay ordiance?

Ya your right , you get what you pay for!!!!

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178L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Forgot one thing, the $20. Sorry, I have no clue about that one. And theword, its not a million. As for past officers thee're all gone. You cant hold the current officers responsible for the the past ones. The current ones are pretty good.

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179jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Personally I don't think any council member or the mayor should have health ins. most have other jobs or are retired. If any of them are truely wanting to save the city..they should give up their health ins..how much would that save?

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180MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,

LEARN HOW TO SPELL!!!!!

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181MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Did anybody else read into LOL'S post, "And I dont want Krinos running around with a blank checkbook either but on what you said about council working for us, you're sadly mistaken." WHO IS US???? Who is this person that's defending George Krazinos? We will soon find out!

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182djm2026(1 comment)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Sounds like you people in Campbell have too many chiefs and not enough indians. Many of you think it is an easy job to run the city, however none of you seem to want to step up and give it a try. Don't judge until you have held a council seat or have been in the mayor's position. The mayor's hands are pretty much tied due to the fact the council has more authority than he does. Those of you talk like you know all about the political process, however it seems to me you have no knowledge as to how the city government works if you had you wouldn't be making such simple-minded comments. The majority of you better study up on the city by-laws and charter. Maybe you all should run for a seat on council or better yet run for mayor then you can solve all of your city's problems. I live in a city that is pretty much broke, however I atleast give credit to the people who are on council and also to the mayor for trying their best to help the city. From what I know about your city, no matter what is done, you won't be satisfied until you have tried to destroy the character of all who are trying their best to help the city.

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183onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

theword.... your both right on the police your right because you said close to a million, LOL is right because she its not a million actually for 2009 it was $968,807

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184theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

thanks onlyincampbell wonder if that included the jail for feeding the prisoners and helath care for the prisoners?

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185cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

HELLO TO ALL!!!!!

From what I read on these blogs about 80% of you are people who are either council members, council members family, some with several screen names, this is obvious because some of what is said is strict city business, how do I know this, I go to every meeting and at the last one where the mayor gave out his 5 yr plan only council was there, not one single citizen other then myself. The other 20% are peole who either have a brain and make some very intelligent comments and the rest are just very opinionated uneducated people when it comes to city business and just want to say anything bad about the mayor you could so to those let me communicate the only way you would understand (kiss my a--, and go try to do the job yourself)
Dont refer to it as politics but city business.

NEXT
Why is everyone still commenting on this article DID YOU NOT READ TODAYS, THE MAYOR DID SOMETHING NO ONE ON COUNCIL DID HE MADE A VERY NICE SPEACH AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND SAID THAT ALL THE FIGHTING IS DONE. HE WILL NOT ARGUE WITH COUNCIL, MILES, HE IS A MAN ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONLY MONTHS TO FIX THE CITY AND THEY HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT. SO HOW BOUT YOU GO TO TODAYS ARTICLE AND COMMENT ON IT SAYING HOW NICE AND GREAT IT WAS FOR THE MAYOR TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP TO HELP THE CITIZENS.

FYI
I WAS THERE AND THE REPORTER DID NOT PUT IN THERE ANY OF THE REASONS WHY KRINOS SAID THIS HAS TO HAPPEN AND HE WOULD TAKE THE FIRST STEP. IF ITS NOT JUICY AND CREATES 100+ BLOGS ITS NOT GOOD NEWS TO HER.

AS TO WHY I HAVE NOT BEEN BLOGGING, I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO SINCE ALL I SEE IS THE SAME PEOPLE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

MICHEALG93
I dont like how it seems you threatened LOL for stating what is said to be facts or even opinions. Please try to find out my ID it would be nice to meet you. Like I said keyboards are big and scary everyone should be able to comment without being threatened. I do believe thats 2 strikes you have made on these blogs.
I am prompting the next person who might have a slander remark or a threat made from you to contact the police, file a report, the vindi tracks emails and IP addresses. It can be traced back to a computer through the net from your modem at your work or house, its really not difficult to do.
Oh ya if I was who you keep saying I am would I be asking you a member of the greek church and a person on the church council to find out who I am.

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186onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

your welcome theword! That figure is derived from salaries, overtime, fringe benefits and other. what the other is I have no idea.

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187MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS68,

Please state your gripes..... You and LOL post false information and then get mad when people call you on it! File your complaints. It would actually bring us together to find out who makes up all these lies. I'm so sick and tired of people that wouldn't say something to someone's face but yet type it in a forum. I haven't said anything on these posts that aren't correct. This LOL is criticizing someone on here and has no idea what he or she is talking about.

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188rdp1212(3 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The fact of the matter is Dill pushed this city to the edge of the cliff and Krinos is just finishing the job by kicking it over. Saying Krinos is the sole cause of the mess this city is in, is irresponsible and incorrect. Our city has been going downhill for decades, but the last 10 years have accelerated that downfall worse than any other time, besides the closing of the mills.

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189jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

My opinion is Dill didn't push it to the edge, it was already there and he held us up the best he could with what we have. Krinos on the other hand, coming in and spending right away, is definitly pushing us over..this city lost major revenue while Dill was in office..nothing can be done about that..what business or company will even think about coming in now with all the BS going on at city hall?

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190L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Jimc51,

The mayor suggested all elected officials (except for judge, he's governed by state) give up their benefits. Guess who voted it down at a council meeting? Yup, council.

Onlyincampbell,

It may have cost that much but how much revenue does the police dept bring in. An actual figure may be a lot harder to find due to several things. What is recorded is only by fines and things of that nature. However, due to having a jail they are able to hold prisoners for bond money, non-payment of fines from probation and other costs. If it wasn't for the jail prisoners would be brought down to the county jail where they would be released on their own recognance therefore no money would go to Campbell. Now all of these monies that are collected this way ARE NOT shown through the revenue for the police dept. They are shown in connection to the proper dept they are intended for. Example, court or probation dept. Therefore I'm pretty sure the police dept is not costing the city that much after what they bring in.

MichaelG93,

I checked my spelling this time for you so you won't have to grade me on it. Now can you shut up?

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191MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,

I love how you have such a big attitude while typing. Obviously a male typing here. I really hope you graduated from some other city besides Campbell. YOUR typing itself can give the city a bad name. Tell your boy Krazinos to stick to his own plan of giving up his benefits so he can have his own secretary! Also, she should only be paid for the hours she works instead of the hours outside smoking. So 1 hour of work, and 7 hours of smoking. Man, I think I can solve the budget problem myself!!!

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192L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Michael, you claim to be smart, went to school with the mayor and know all the facts. Yet, you can't spell the mayor's name right. It's KRINOS not KRAZINOS. By the way, you're the one that was saying I better hope you don't find out my identity. And that people like me get beat up. I simply responded and stated I'm not worried about it, or you.

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193mbrosh(7 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Campbell has been shut down for years already.

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194theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Thats because you have a bunch of greeks running the city. Look whats going on in Greece they want campbell to be the same as the mother land...

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195rdp1212(3 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Dill was one of the most corrupt mayors this city has ever seen, embezzlement, kick-backs, shady real-estate deals with the city and his family. He is a criminal and a complete joke, and his cronies that are still hanging around the council are purposely blocking any and all things the mayor is trying to accomplish. They are the real problem here, the Dill influence needs to be wiped out of this city for good. It is just like the Campbell school system. As soon as the superintendent was switched the school system has been in a steep upward swing and is now one of the better school systems in the county. In both instances the asinine politics is what held the school back, and is holding the city back. Until the council realizes that it is in place to uphold the word of the people and not their personal interests this city will totally doomed with no chance at revival. The people of the city are what is important here, not the political agendas of a few out of bounds, out of touch with reality council members.

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196Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

theword, ordinary Greeks are at the mercy of a corrupt government. Do they not have the right to protest? Isn't this the same way in which our country was found? Campbell was on a steady nose-dive down the crapper long before Krinos stepped in. Learn to fill your comments with actual substance versus the two sentences of pure ignorance you just posted. Pick up on some punctuation while you are at it.

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197joesmoe(48 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Combine Youngstown, Campbell, Coitsville, Struthers and Lowelville. Average out the income tax rates for all of them and combine all the services. Create a Metro Government and eliminate the duplication of services. It would work.

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198MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

rdp1212, You are a complete joke! "Dill was one of the most corrupt mayors this city has ever seen, embezzlement, kick-backs, shady real-estate deals with the city and his family." C'mon man, are you kidding me? To post such nonsense is ridiculous. Again, I'm thinking these posts are going to be about factual information and you blurt out 3 dumb lies. Do yourself a favor and write about information you know about!!!

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199MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

joesmoe, that's not a bad idea. Probably all cities would be able to keep some of their employees. They would hopefully all have to test again and make sure they are fit to do their duties.

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200rdp1212(3 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Do yourself a favor and write about information you know about!!!

I did.

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201grkfire(52 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Theword:

What an idiotic and moronic comment. What Greeks are running the city? None. I bet if you were face to face with a Greek, you wouldn't be running your mouth. You talk from behind a computer. That's because your a douchebag.

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202theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

How about the mayor and police chief are they not greek?

and yes I wouldn't be running my mouth if I was face to face with a greek because I would be holding my nose b/c they smell!!!!!

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203grkfire(52 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Yes they are, but they are far from running the city.
You are a comedian I see. Instead of theword, you should change your name to THE DOUCHE.

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204Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

To The Word,

Campbell is lucky to have the Greek-Americans. There are quite a few painting contractors whose companies make in excess of $1 million a year. $1 million a year generates $25K of tax for the city. These guys and their crew could easily afford to live somewhere else but decided to stay in Campbell. If these painting companies left the city, the tax base would erode even further. You can knock the Greeks all you want however their ancestors were studying philosophy, geometry, astronomy, etc. while many other civilizations were still living in trees.

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205devildog(96 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

and yes I wouldn't be running my mouth if I was face to face with a greek because I would be holding my nose b/c they smell!!!!!

to theword......your ignorant!

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206cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

MICHAELG93

Why are you not sticking up for your people now, seems to me unless you get to bash the mayor you dont care to comment (are you related to Mike Tsikoris, he does not seem to stick by his peoples side either?). Please join in and defend yourself and your heritage against these attacks.

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207Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I can say one thing about Mike T. He is a very honest, educated, ethical man who is a great family man. He's never cheated anyone out of anything as he's always paid his bills. He's not one to gossip. He is an asset to the council. I don't know much about the other council persons, but Mike is as honest as they come. Mike T. is not sticking up for the mayor because he probably believes that the mayor's plans are foolish. One thing, though, there are some council members who have their own agendas and I wish they would be replaced (along with the mayor).

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208Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS:

I stick by my people when someone makes an immature statement such as how a nationality smells, etc. However, Mike is perfectly within his right to not agree with the mayor's policies just as the mayor can disagree with Mike's view on things. Disagreeing is part of democracy....calling someone childish names is a whole different matter. Your last comment to Michael G93 was not warranted. Just an opinion....no hard feelings.

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209grkfire(52 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Ctown,
you are absolutely right about the Greek painting contractors. They choose to remain in the city because they are loyal, and do not want to abandon the city in which they lived in their whole lives. Some Campbell Greeks have left, and think they are high class for doing so, but there are still many loyal ones here.

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210Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I second the high-class thinking Greeks, although I left and am not one of them. I would like to know that I won't have to worry about whether my love one's at home have police protection or whatnot. Especially with all the apartments being made Section 8 and what have you. The place would end up like the wild west.

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211Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey grkfire....your not Pete K are you??

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212MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

CMHS68,

My dad raised me right. I don't see any color, any nationality, any gender. I see Morons and the mayor is one of them!!

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213MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I agree Lombardo, but how do we get that 2.5 down to 2, then from 2 to 1.5. How many jobs does it take to make that tax base go down. Do you have to give tax abatements for 5 years knowing that 5 years from now if you give so many companies these abatements that you have enough to take your tax rate to 2 or even 1.5. I wish I knew first and foremost the answer and also any companies that would consider something like this.

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214grkfire(52 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

no Stav, but are you Stav D?

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215Stav2k(12 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Nope..and since there aren't that many Stavs I'm sure you can draw your own conclusions. lol

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216L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Ahh, back from a much needed vacation!

MichaelG, I highly doubt anyone will ever see a 1.5% income tax. Lowellville just recently raised theirs from 1.5% to 2%. Their 1.5% has been at that rate since like 1979 and they just finally raised it. The 1.5% days are long gone! However, with a strong community I can see 2% being realistic.

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217UrbanWolff(10 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

actually, it would make some sense for Campbell to merge into Youngstown.

Campbell's population is about 9000 people, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. A community of 9000 can't support all of the functions that a city requires.

Merging into Youngstown would make sense. Youngstown already has the infrastructure to absorb Campbell and maintain the services needed to maintain the community.

Moreover, Campbell would never lose it's identity. That part of town would always be known as Campbell, even if it merged with Youngstown.

The Valley can't maintain so many little duplicative governments. The tax base is no longer there to allow for these small 'cities' and protect the political fiefdoms.

You need people to plow the streets, maintain water treatment, provide community services.

Running a city is a full-time job. Part of the problem is when part-time officials try to run a city, Even the operations of a small city require a lot of time and attention.

>> "Why was city hall and the police department painted?"

It's cheaper to paint things now rather than put it off (known as deferred maintenance) . It becomes more expensive to deal with the physical plant if any type of maintenance is deferred.

The idea or 'place' of Campbell will never go away, even if it merged with Youngstown. However, with 9000+ residents and declining tax base, the days of the City of Campbell municipal government seem numbered.

Change can be good.

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218DevynBellamy(1 comment)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Some of the stuff that is said here is flat out disgusting. I know George personally, and if I were a resident, I would have gladly voted for him, as the old guard clearly wasn't cutting it. So he comes in, tries to make a change, and people fight him on it? Last time I checked, the system is broke, so instead of fighting change, you should probably embrace it.

As for the wedding caterer, I was there. I got sick. My wife got sick. One of my good friends got sick. The food got us sick. I would gladly testify to that in court, AND bring my wife's admission records to prove it. There were people vomiting before they even left. I don't know who the caterer is, but where ever they are, I plan to be elsewhere.

I am very disappointed in the level of immaturity that is being demonstrated on this site. People should be finding a solution, instead of finding fault. People are so busy covering their own behinds in council, they are refusing to acknowledge the truth. THEY ARE FAILING. If the city has an expiration date, they should stop whining, kick out the guy who is handling the books now, and get a fresh pair of eyes on the subject, because he isn't getting the job done either.

If I were him, I would quit, and after I finish typing this, I am going to call him, and tell him myself. The fact that people continue to undermine his efforts is BEYOND ME!! I fail to see what he is doing that is making the situation worse. The man needs health benefits, just like everyone else. He brought on a firefighter to IMPROVE quality of life, and based on what I have read, the council is happy with the status quo. He is finding reasons for people to come, and they are keeping all the reasons people are leaving.

This ship looks pretty doomed, and Campbell had already hit the iceburg long before he was elected. Grow up people.

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219Ctown(115 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I know many who were there and they all stated that the food was delicious. None of them got sick. Pay the caterer already and move on. I agree that if I were him, I would quit. He should concentrate on his business and forget about being mayor. The headaches are not worth $15K a year.

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220L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Same can go for council. They make even less. They should quit, the headaches arent worth it.

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221onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

devyn....some are disgusting I agree but with that said, bottom line is the city is broke! They need to cut spending and this mayor just keeps introducing more and more spending.

As for the current finance director what is he doing that everyone feels is wrong besides saying no? Council what are they doing wrong besides saying no?

You work with what you have at hand not what you wish you had!

You didn't hear the gavel come slamming down and almost hear the key turn in the lock to close the city down before this mayor stepped in. What does that tell you?

For this mayor being a finance guru, I have to question his abilities to have anything to do with money. From what I hear and maybe I'm wrong he doesn't even own a home in campbell, he rents, so he doesn't even invest in his own community!

And I still am not happy about him wanting to bring in Estech I don't want garbage from other cities being dumped here. It is not a PROVEN safe way to dispose of garbage there are no other cities in the USA that have a site, there are no impact studies done on it, and neighboring cities said NO to them. Where is the complete transparency he promised us? Why hasn't he brought this company to the citizens attention? Where is all the information on it? Why can't the citizens have a vote on it like we did the water plant?

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222TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

You know what cracks me up , I just love how all the people with just one posted comment come on this blog and defend the mayor .

How many different screen names does one person need ?

Truth be told , Running a city is like running a business.

The mayor as never ran a successful business in his life. As other people have posted , he doesn't even own a home , he owes so many people and companies money. Filed for bankruptcy twice ,has had cars repoed and people come on here and defend him. Are you kidding me?

Go back and read all his promises he made running for mayor , its all in black and white and you can find them on here . So i guess that makes him a LIAR too !!

I really hope for the sake of the city it does go broke and gets dissolved into youngstown or other areas. Then all the idiots that are running it into the ground will be out of job and can stop wasting our taxes on there friends .

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223cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

onlyincampbell

FYI the first month the new mayor was there the current finance director and the previous Mayor JACK DILL were proposing a 465k DEFICIT. Now with the new Mayor pushing and arguing, along with trying to get his own budget submitted the city is looking to end in the black. Secondly I dont believe you know what you are talking about. This person Paul Marshall didnt once make Jack Dill live by the budget he proposed and there was negative spending in the six figures every year he was there. So no you would not have heard that gavel and the keys in the lock.

Also the reason we are in this situation is becuase of Sherman Miles and Councils budget, doesnt anyone understand that the mayor kept telling them their budget was wroung. Dont even try telling me that the mayor was trying to do something illegal. Council passed legislation to pay all of the employees pay and benefits in the finance department out of the water department by 2/3. That means that 66% of their day has to be consumed by doing nothing but work from the water department. The mayor's budget was more realistic it was 1/3 water dept, 1/3 park, and 1/3 or the rest from the general fund. What council and mr miles are doing is illegal.

As for the park fund how is it that 2 people in the street dept get half of their pay from the park, and also 1 person gets half of their pay from the storm sewers when all of these employees dont do any or if any its minimal work in these departments. I dont believe anyone who comments on this site has done the proper research to comment because all of this was done by council.

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224cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

PART 2
Next lets talk about why Pual Marshall said shut down. Mr Miles and council submitted a budget that was underfunded in certain funds and over inflated in other funds. This is what Mayor Krinos kept trying to tell them was wroung. Ex. you underfund the street dept, the mayors office, and also the firedept, but you over fund the police, the building and lands and other misc funds. That is what happend. SO now this guy Marshall comes in and says to the city "hey you dont have enough money in these funds so we have to shut the city down. "
Sounds to me like it was done purposly especially with the mayor telling them this was gonna happen.

By the way, the city had a carry over of 3.3 million so how is it we are gonna shut down becuase the tax collection is down by 85k. The city will have another carry over of at least 3.3million again. The state is making the city live by the budget it passed and that is it. When the money is gone in the funds that are underfunded its over, or is it?

Please someone test me.

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225cmhs68(134 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Thetruth123

Tell me what business owner doesnt owe people money. Credit and Debt in owning a business go hand in hand. Thats how a business grows or if not done properly goes out of business. So I am sure he will agree that he does owe money, like I said its part of owning a buisness.

Next the repos, bankruptcy, etc. Go to one of my previous blogs. Bad things can happen to good people.
Get your facts straight.

Im tired of everyone bringing his personal life into the city business. DONT FORGET THERE ARE 6 OTHER PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY RUN THE CITY. THEY WERE THERE BEFORE THIS MAYOR AND THEY ARE REASON AS TO WHY THE CITY IS SHUTTING DOWN. THE MAYOR HAS NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO SPEND A DIME, HE ONLY SUGGESTS SPENDING THE MONEY OUT OF THOSE INFLATED FUNDS TO ADD SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS.

Hey a good question is why does youngstown charge 2.75% and they are growing with business? Hmmmmm could it be they are not cutting but are adding services, its an investment into your community people are you all nuts. you have to invest or you will not grow. This is a simple concept.

Oh and as for the person who commented on "how many screen names can a person have" well alot Im sure as you would know just like alot of people on here do, however I personally know Devyn Bellamy, he was at the wedding I saw him there and he did get sick. He also was the co host with the Mayor on his radio show on 1330AM called the Money Spot. So go figure that one out, a person with B?LLS who really puts there real name on here.

DEVYN BELLAMY way to go. I give you alot of credit for being a man and stepping up.

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226TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey cmhs68 when you find time to take your head out of the mayor's a** to breath .

If your so confident in your mayor do you have your retirement or pension or any of your personal savings invested with him ?

I bet not one person thats defending him on here has their money invested with him.

Also, he is not a good person , Good people pay their bills !! Everyone is entitled to mistakes in their life, but i guess according to public records his mistake has been an ongoing one for 9+ years.

I'm entitled to my opinion if you don't like it then don't read it .

George must have you trained really good at giving excuses your learning from a master.

He is a public official if he can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen!!! Your response is typical of someone that supports him always blaming something or someone else in the past for his mistakes in the present and future.

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227TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Your so called simple concept of investing , ok
lets all invest our money with mayor so we can watch our money GROW into the RED..

Cmhs68 your comments make me laugh, One because anyone who reads them knows there is no intelligence behind the person writing them. Two your theory on business is why the mayor is going out of business.
When you start a business ,initially you have credit and debt then as things take off you pay down your debt and credit and start working off your cashflow to run and make some profit , if it doesn't take off you don't max out your credit and borrow to the hilt on a failing business and run it into the ground.

Just like i said the city is a business , operating money is there , tax revenue is down ,Guess what YOU DON"T SPEND MONEY on things . You cut positions and salaries and expenses and operate on whats coming in . That's how you make a business survive .
But then again you have a person who is totally incompetent to business. The mayor enjoys spending other peoples money ,but somehow can never account for his own.

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228L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Onlyincampbell are you serious? Krinos has been in office maybe all of 6 months and you seriously think he is the reason the city is in the situation its in? So it had no reason to do with the previous mayor who's been in charge for the previous ten years? It just magically happened over the last 6 months??

Campbell has been in the shape its in for sometime now. The previous mayor did what he wanted and was never held accountable nor was he ever forced to come up with a 5 year plan to get out of receivership WHICH Campbell should not even be in. Yet he was allowed to stay in despite having a carry over every year. Now all of a sudden Krinos comes in a 5 year plan is mandatory? The FINANCE directors 5 year was to shut down and lay everyone off and eliminate the police dept. Which im sure was juanita rich's plan in desguise since she speaks through him with her hand up his azz. The mayors was at least a positive with ideas on how to survive not shut the door closed.

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229theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs68 stated:

By the way, the city had a carry over of 3.3 million so how is it we are gonna shut down becuase the tax collection is down by 85k. The city will have another carry over of at least 3.3million again.

Ya right, tax collection is down, people are moving out of the city and your telling everyone that the city has a 3.5 million dollar carry over with at least another 3 million dollar carry over? the city's whole operating budget is less than 3 million a year.

Keep drinking the kool-aid it will be over very soon

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230onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

cmhs wow calm down!

1st off we had a carry over of 600,000 it was in both propsed budgets look it up I'm sure Dina has a copy you may look at.

2nd, Mr Marshall stated along with the states auditor stated all Dept. are over budget already for this year.

3rd. Mayor Dill did as was asked by laying off fire fighters Krino's hired one back after being told the money wasn't there.

LOL I'm not saying he is 100% to blame but I can tell you he has proposed as I have stated before alot of spending, hired a secretary under false pretense after he did state HE would give up his benefits. He's not running a very tight ship that way, as a financial firm head hancho he should be tight with the money. I'm sorry thats just the way I feel

Unlike some, I do in fact research anything I post before I open my mouth. All the info is there at the meeting all you have to do is open you eyes, shut your mouth, and listen its amazing what you can learn

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231L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Onlyincampbell, you are correct that Krinos stated he was going to give up his bennies but there were stipulations and once again, council would not agree to them. Therefore, they were not given up. Im not being a smartazz but apparently you didnt research that one too well.

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23244girl(14 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Krinos = Campbell SHUT DOWN
This is something to put on your resume. Why not step down. I believe this job is way over your head and education you have!

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233Billybob21(96 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Looks like the mayor is scared to make the tough decisions. He needs to quit being scared and go ahead and do away with the police and fire. Let the sheriff come in and go volunteer with the fire dept just like other smaller towns do. I don't want to see anyone lose their job as I am sure alot of people don't want to see. But the mayor, that cmhs68, and most of the Greeks in Campbell think is God created half this mess. Council and Dill had the city's head above water then "Krynos" came in with all his crazy ideas and over-spending to sink it. So now everyone has to suffer. SO its either make the tough decisons now or say goodbye to Campbell. Now the police dept has to suffer and we have to let the sheriff come in; they can do a good job. And maybe this will eliminate some of the corruption in the city. What are some of the Greeks afraid maybe now they might get a ticket instead of a verbal warning if the sheriff comes in? Hey, here is an idea and I know some people are going to say "Oh, you're going against the Greeks!" and I am not because I am one myself, have plenty that I am friends with. But has anyone looked in the paper when tax time comes around and seen all the Greeks that haven't paid their property tax? Why doesn't the city go after them for all their back taxes. I am sure alot of that would add up. And maybe you could pay to pave the streets and keep the street lights on with that money. And the mayor wants to put a levy on the ballot? LOL!! Is he crazy?! That will never pass!!! CMHS68, the more I read things from you, it sounds like you know alot about the mayor and why are you worried about the sherriff coming in and taking over the police dept? I just saw on the news there are about 100 sheriffs about to get laid off. I am sure alot of them would gladly come and patrol our streets. Nothing against the police we have, most of them do a good job. I am being hypothetical, and maybe the police we have should look at cutting their gas budget. I have been told by people that I know that live in the city that they have patrol the police chief's house every hour. What is up with that? Does anyone know why they have to do this? I never heard of anything like this in other cities. I know Youngstown's old police chief moved really really close to Campbell and he didn't have extra patrols at his house. And why doesn't the mayor, instead of worrying about levy's, worry about bringing businesses to the city and jobs. I dont want to hear from you, CMHS68, because I have read other blogs you wrote that there are some coming 5 or 500 years from now well so is Christmas. The city needs jobs or business. Now the city has to look at making the city more livable and think of ways for people to stay and not vacate the city. They should be focusing on ways to better whats is already in the city. It seems as though the city has become more of a township than existing as a city.

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234L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

The smaller town can do it because they are small towns. The sheriffs dept works canfield township with probably only one car in farm land. Thats a far cry from working an inner city with projects. Those deputies wouldnt know what to do. They talk of having 3 deputies per shift for 3 shifts (9 deputies), detectives, they would use campbells police dept for a sub station (using OUR water, gas, electric), they dont know our city streets and for that matter the citizens themselves and you think that would be cheaper and the better way to go? So my question to you is your name juanita rich, sherman miles or one of their blind followers?

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235theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Do you mean smaller towns were who you know is better than what you know? look at how many family members are employed by the city.

what projects? the kirwin homes are 3/4 empty now and probably are going to stay that way.

campbell is a small town with most of the streets running from one end of town to the other. It will not be that hard to learn them.

since we already know that you drink the kool-aid, I hope you will figure out that the end is near for the city and your job when there is no more campbell

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236jimc51(58 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

why, when you call the mayors office during hours, does an answering machine come on? where is that full time secretary?

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237L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

And what will happen if and when the two companies that come into the brown fields in campbell save the city and double the revenue? You gonna say you were drinking the kool-aid the whole time? Are we gonna hear you were wrong? And that Krinos did a good job? Or are you going to pass the compliments to the council or even Dill who didnt do anything?

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238MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,
Wake up! Those companies are not coming to Campbell. The one company doesn't have a plant in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Is something wrong with your mind to think that they are going to make their debut in Campbell Ohio? What is wrong with you? Think before you speak!

One other question, doesn't Krazinos rent in the city of Campbell now? So, he's imposing a fee to landlords that would have to rent to him??? What a buffoon! I can’t wait for his rent to go up or hopefully landlords refuse to rent to him.

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239TheTruth123(27 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey MichaelG68 here is an interesting fact for ya, Take a look at who's name is on the deed that he rents the house from.

It's his own Aunt !!!

Not only does he enjoy screwing the residents of this city out of money but i guess he can include family members now too!

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240onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

I am still concerned that him and schivoni are working behind closed doors to bring ESTECH USA LLC here when there are no studies done on the impact. Its garbage from other states!
I can not find anything on them in the US. But here are some things I did find by going to Friends Of Earth about autoclaving which is what the Mayor wants to put here:

This fibre may be contaminated by hazardous municipal waste, for example electronic and electrical waste or batteries, as there is no front end recycling to remove this from the waste stream prior to autoclaving. High levels of some metals have been found in the fibre, which could restrict its potential uses.

This uncertainty makes autoclaving a risky choice for local authorities. If there is a problem with the fibre market, for example the recipient of the fuel no longer accepts it, then it is likely that this material would have to be landfilled and subject to potential fines under the Landfill Allowance Trading Scheme

Refuse derived fuel
Another market being proposed for the fibre is to convert it into refuse-derived fuel (RDF) to be incinerated and produce energy. This may take place at another site or as part of the same facility, as is planned for an autoclave and gasification pyrolysis facility being built in Bridgend, Wales by companies 3NRG and Prestigeiv. Friends of the Earth does not support processes which produce and burn RDF, as this releases harmful emissions, including fossil-fuel derived carbon dioxide, which contributes to climate change. It is also a waste of resources, especially as it may mean that certain high-calorific elements of the waste stream, with combustible properties (e.g. paper, plastic), are left in the fibre rather than being separated for recycling.

For more on this I urge people to go to:
http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefin...

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241onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

And I would also like to add to this whole Estech thing some food for thought.

If this is such a lucrative business, why are we getting garbage from New York and New Jersey, why don't those 2 states build that facility there if its such a money maker? Why did our surrounding Mayors say NO to this proposal? Why isn't the Mayor talking about it to the people if it's so wonderful? Why isn't there an open public forum with Estech reps here to take questions from us?

Sounds shady shady shady to me!

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242theword(342 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

@LOL

If these two business's are moving into campbell then why arn't they part of the recovery plan presented to the state?

Don't say well they have to be here first for the city to collect the money because if thats the case then how can the mayor present a levy as income that didn't even pass yet?

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243MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

jimc51-you are getting an answering machine because SHE is either outside smoking a cig or posting ridiculous comments under her alias name "CMHS68"....what a joke!

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244L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Onlyincampbell, I applaud you. Someone actually doing research and looking into things as a possibility even if they may or may not come before spowting off at your mouth like MichaelG93 does. MichaelG you will be the first person I'll shove the news up your azz to.

Theword, I honestly dont know why its not in the 5 year plan. I wouldve said because you cant count on a business that isnt 100% for sure coming but then you had to go ahead and throw the levy comment in there. All I can think of is that its not 100% so how can you count it? You know how businesses and politics work. One day its coming then the next its not. As far as the levy is concerned Im not exactly sure they are literally counting the money already I believe its just what it is. A plan to put on the levy. The state guy wanted a 5 year plan the city intends to follow. Obviously not everything will follow it to the T or somethings will probably change (example: if the two companies come in one of which is already down there. It will just expand if the recycling comes in). So to answer your question in why I believe its in there is that they plan on putting on a levy. You cant plan on having a business come in and count the money until its literally already coming in. I would assume that if the companies happen the plan will be amended.

The plan can and proabably will be amended anyway. The city had a deadline to come up with a plan or they would have been penalized for not having one. Which puzzles me because this Marshall guy never, in ten years, required Dill to have one but now all of a sudden we have to??? Anyways, before accustations start to fly this plan was drafted by BOTH MAYOR AND COUNCIL. They actually worked on it together (unknown how much kicking & screaming took place) but they collaborated on it to get it done. So now hopefully the mayor and council have come to some terms and will work together for one goal rather than seperate agendas. And isnt that what we all want in the first place? All of them to work together for the betterment of the city?

And MichaelG93 if you cant learn how to spell the mayors name even though you claim you went to school with him AND I have already corrected you tehn STFU! Its KRINOS not Krazinos!

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245MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL,

Please don't tell me that you're really that dumb not to see that I'm misspelling his name on purpose. I think his finances are crazy, his ideas are crazy, and all of you dummies following his lead are crazy! Hence, his new last name!!! By reading your posts on this board, I already know the answer, you are that dumb!

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246L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Michael,

Keep drinking the kool-aid that council is giving you.

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247onlyincampbell(35 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Question? Seeing tho the Mayor said he is not going to fight anymore with council and Miles, does anyone know if he dropped the court thing like he said he would or is it still on the calander for tuesday?

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248MichaelG93(79 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

No, He has not dropped the lawsuit. He'd rather waste money and lose like he's going to. It's just another lawsuit that you can add to the other 16 in his name.

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249CampbellSmoker(1 comment)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Who is the powerful counsil asking to join them in the third ward?

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250L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Someone who will be their patsy. Surprise surprise Mozzoco nominated his son to take over when he retires....

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251kellyg(4 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

There were some previous, negative and derogatory comments about the Greeks in Campbell. Why must we resort to this level?
M&J Painting
Liberty Maintenance
A-1 Maintenance
Seacor
Soup City Deli
Aspasia's Hair Salon
Belleria Pizza
Mike's Hot Dogs
Jimmy's Pizza
Campbell Hardware
Vimas Painting
Adelphi, Inc.
Dr. Frangopoulos
Knolls Pharmacy
Bridges-R-Us
Spartan Contracting
Global Painting
Dovas Painting
Olympic Enterprises

I probably have missed some ongoing,viable businesses-not to forget all the professionals who live in Campbell, doctors, lawyers, teachers, owners of businesses that may be in other towns, but owners live in Campbell, and the large labor force who work for the contractors and at GM.

All of the above pay Campbell City income tax--what do they have in common? THE PROUD GREEK ETHNICITY THAT SOME OF YOU DENIGRATE. I would say that a lot is contributed to this city by the Greek people. And slurs against any nationality or race have nothing to do with the problems facing this city.

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252L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Kellyg youre absolutely right but the mayor is greek and people who are brainwashed by Dill and/or the council dont like him so theres the connection.

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253L0L(660 comments)posted 4 years, 4 months ago

Kellyg, I'll even go a bit farther. (and p.s. im not greek) Im sure i'll be called racist for what im about to say but i dont care, im tired of being politically correct. And im sure some people will be quick to correct me or point out people or thing sive missed but what im about to say is more for the broader point.

Campbell is unique in the fact that it is very much a melting pot. You have all ethnicities as well as rich, middle and low class people. Out of all the greeks, blacks, whites and hispanics it seems to me that the greeks are what has been and what is keeping this city afloat. As I stated before I am not greek but fdo embrace their culture as those of others. They are very nice people and committed to family and friends. Those two qualities to me are what makes a city a great place.

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