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Avoid government health care

Published: Sun, September 13, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

Avoid government health care


We don’t need a new single payer /public option health care plan. Since Hillary tried it over 15 years ago there have been no catastrophes. The system needs more private sector competition by allowing shopping for health insurance beyond state borders. Next, develop well tested tort reform to reduce overhead and unnecessary tests. Next, promptly deport illegal aliens to reduce the uncovered load and expense on the system. Please note I said illegals, not the respectable aliens who came in the front door and respected the laws and system of the country they want to live in and be a part of.

Do not create a public government option. With its taxpayer subsidizes it would automatically be the lowest rate in town and employers would trip over each other rushing to dump their health care insurance benefit costs. This would mean that we pay twice, direct premium and the taxes for the subsidy.




1thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

You sound way to rational and responsible.


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2GreenHomesOhio(11 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

I have to disagree with you Dan, as a small business owner who can barely afford to pay an employee there is no way my business could afford to provide an affordable health plan for my employees no matter how much I wanted too.

Currently plans do not sell across state lines because the federal govt. does not regulate insurance, states do! Are you proposing a new federal agency to oversee insurance? That seems like a states rights battle you likely could never win. In addition this would allow the insurance giants to out compete or buy up all of the locally run regional health insurers thereby reducing competition and the likelihood of any savings being passed on to the employers or to consumers.

I do agree with you that intelligent tort reform should be part of the answer, however as to illegal aliens, first they won't have access, second most of them are here working for republican owned farms and businesses in California and Texas. Having lived in California most of my life I know that the migrant workers perform a valuable service to America doing work that most Americans consider to dangerous and menial for even their children to do. So unless you are proposing sending unemployed Ohio steel and autoworkers or your own children to work in the western farms at $4.00 to $6.00 and hour for 60+ hours a week while living in tin shacks with no running water, I suggest you rethink that part of your solution.
Finally the public option will not be taxpayer subsidized, secondly unless you think that the insurance company executives are simply going to roll over and play dead (not likely) they will come up with creative ways to keep customers and make their plans more affordable, and the way they will do it is to require health providers to become more efficient.

Just needed to voice my 2 cents.

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3UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

UHC would be a good thing, but the Democrooks & Lobbyists have killed it's chances of being succesful. It's now turned into a poor vs rich fight led by the Repukicans & FOX. Those of us who really need it for when we lose our jobs are caught in the middle class as always.

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4Kellie(24 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

Dan, I have to disagree with you. I don't think that healthcare reform is an "illegal alien issue." The bill specifically prohibits providing health care for illegal aliens. What you're talking about is an entirely separate issue and that entails paying for additional enforcement in regards to illegal aliens. That is an ICE/enforcement issue not a health reform issue.
Currently taxpayers pay for everyone that doesn't have health insurance coverage. Emergency room bills need to be paid when people without health insurance utilize them as it is their only option for obtaining health care.
Maybe you would like to start talking about allocating taxpayer money for ICE and enforcement of immigration laws. Don't work on denying health care coverage for legal American citizens that need it.

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5thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

Kellie, GreenHomes, & Union Forever,

Of course Illegal Aliens are not covered under this legislation, and that is due to the following item on Barry's agenda, Amnesty. If this health care legislation can be passed, granting these criminals citizenship will be the next issue brought up for debate.

Greenhomes, in reference to your comment on state borders and health insurance, I think auto insurance premiums are a great example of how health care costs could be decreased by opening up the borders. State Farm, Geico, and the like are always trying to beat each other in cost. The same could happen with private health insurance companies if the restrictions allow more competition across state lines.

UnionForever, "caught in the middle class as always?" Why not be more optimistic and propel yourself into the upper class? You live in a country that provides you with an opportunity to make as much money as you can, provided you earn it. Why not attempt to work more than one job, further your education, or save more money? Nothing is handed out for free in this world including health care.


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6Jbreed2011(37 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

I agree with the authors point that many employers will opt to drop out of offering private healthcare and move towards using the public option.

The fight over the public option has prevented a good discussion on healthcare.

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7thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

You are correct, what good small to medium business owner would not look at the bottom line where the public option would make them more money by ushering their employees into that plan?


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