Obama to tell students to take responsibility

I am still dumfounded as to how anyone can find logical arguments against this speech.

After reading the entire speech I don't see anything wrong with it either. Other then YCS needs every minute of class time.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResour...

Why doesn't B.O. air it nationally so that grandparents and others whom have the responsibility of children will know what is being said. This will give citizens a way to talk with their children about being a student and what B.O.'s speech means to your child or grandchild about school / learning?? Posted by Tera

If you can read you can click the link above and there is the speech.

It is time for children of all ages to start taking some responsibility for themselves.
The sooner they get motivated and introduced to the realizations of life, the better off they will be.
A high ranking thrid party speaking directly to them cannot hurt.

There are some funky statements someone who believes in Socialism would make. I'm sorry Barack but I'm not in college for my country, I'm in college for myself. If I failed I failed myself, not my country.

With that said however, I don't think him saying that will brainwash kids into voting for socialists. It should have been Michelle saying this, education is usually the First Lady's territory.

The first lady is obviously shopping today, probably something to wear for her next shoot in people magazine. She is in touch.

pro, your argument is invalid.

Back during my school days Mother Superior would have told this abortion championing carpetbagger from Chicago where to go .

Shouldn't Obama be saying this to the welfare recipients and jail inmates instead? They are the ones who worship that man.

Hey Stan, he's the President of the United States... if you don't like the idea of the President talking to kids about responsibility, then pack up your things and leave you commie!

Well Ytown pip:

For a man who champions the killing of children through abortion I find it ironic that he should wish to speak to the survivors .

Pack yo duds and leave ! Catholicism is alive an well in The Valley ! We are fully capable of teaching our children !

Champions the killing of children through abortion?

As a catholic, do you then champion the touching of children through their pants?

DG:

Does that excite you ? I noticed that speak of it a lot ? You seem to get crime mixed up with religion .

I talk about pedifilia a lot?
That could be libel brother.

DG:
"As a catholic, do you then champion the touching of children through their pants?"

You raised the issue I didn't .

For those who can't judge the diffence between crime and religion I wonder how that judgement affects their every day lives .

Catholic schools in The Valley have turned out many fine people who add to the quality of life for our whole nation . Life without direction forces a person to wander the world aimlessly and with a multitude of problems . Catholic Scools give people a direction in life that allows them to live life with dignity .

Eight year olds, dude.

Stan the Man Unusual.....It seems to me the Catholic church right on up to the Pope were the one's that couldn't "judge the difference between crime and religion". Pedophilia thrived in the Catholic church for who knows how many decades and far too few went to jail for it. Those hypocrites turned me against organized religion.

cambridge:

As with any segment of the population some choose to deviate from the path . Why blame those who stayed on the path ?

Stan the Man Unusual.....I blame all of them. I went to Catholic school. To this day the most twisted people I've known in my life were Nun's and Priest. Even as a little kid you knew which ones were a half bubble off. If little kids knew and talked about it there is no way that everyone in the clergy didn't know about it right up to the Pope. There is no defence.

To quote the one and only: "Eight year olds, dude." "your argument is invalid."

Stan,

So those who worked to hard to cover up such instances and silence victims in order spare the bottom line, are they on this path or off? I ask because it is readily apparent that these cover-ups took place and that they took place at the behest of the heads of the church.

cambridge:

I had no problems with either the Priests or the Nuns . I didn't give my upbringing much thought until I went out into the world and seen the multitude of problems there . My academic achievements and my philosophy of life can be traced back to parochial school .

Stan,Stan,Stan.....What is it with you? Are you just an angry person or are you just pissed that Obama is President? (Not to mention that's He's Black ) Are all white catholic people ignorant?Would mother superior tell all those preist who molested all those children where to go? Not to mention all the drinking that they partake in,what would mother superior say! Do you know the history of Roe vs Wade? Goggle it! Quit trying to blame President Obama for past choices that others have made.Stan,your missing a "A"in your name between the S and the T.You do the math.

sistersun:

Your liberal aurora gives off such a glow that it blinds you from the Obama agenda . I unlike you have a mind of my own and am able to think . Liberals despise me for that .

You also literally never answer a direct question and have commented over 2,000 times, making sense well less than 20% of said comments.

sistersun, on the other hand, gets +5 for the comment of the day.

Jeff, Jeff, Jeff :

I'm glad that you read all of my posts . You should be informed them but I sense a lack of retension on your part .

Being that you are a liberal who is a follower of Obama perhaps you could clue me in as to the proper procedure to get several mil of that stimulus money being given out . I want to set up a factory here in Youngstown to manufacture widgets .

Sistersun makes no sense to me and I would need a liberal interpreter to decipher her thought process . Perhaps those who read her posts were confused and clicked the wrong link to get her that five rating .

Can anyone explain what was so offensive in his speech?

Stan, I stand corrected, I haven't read nearly all your posts. My observation was an inference rather than fact. (This still beats nonsensical rambling, though; sorry.)

Common sense is quite offensive in the parlance of our times, Y-town. I mean, look at some of the posts here -- it is quite obvious.

(Cont.)

Y-town, look at the post directly above my previous one. It suggests that members of the clergy are liberals. As a logical human being I couldn't think of a less forward-thinking group of people than the clergy; I mean, seriously. Yet this should pass as a sensible opinion? I come here for the direct opposite of well-written articles and educated opinions from readers...I am seldom disappointed.

(It is worth noting that this ProAmerican person is also a white supremacist and judging by his/her writing style has written more than a few ransom notes.)

Jeff:

"(This still beats nonsensical rambling, though; sorry.)"

You must be talking about sistersun,s posts .

sistersun gives me the impression that she hates white people .

"Are all white catholic people ignorant?"

"Stan,your missing a "A"in your name between the S and the T.You do the math."

Now Jeff perhaps you could tell me if she likes all of Obama or just the black half ? I don't care for 100% of Obama because of his liberal views . sistersun infers that I am a bigot but on the contrary she is the one who is the bigot !

MEET A FRIEND OF MINE !
ALAN KEYES, WHO IS WORTHY OF MY SUPPORT !

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I think she can speak for herself in terms of her opinions. As an uninformed reader armed only with logic it would seem that she hates ignorant people.

Lol, Nice job Stan pulling out Alan Keyes. I'd probably vote for him too. He probably has been called a self hating black man because he also doesn't blindly support Obama based on the color of his skin.

Thanks Jeff for the +5,To all who reads this,I had to respond to stan.For the record I'm not a liberal nor am I ignorant to the facts.I'm very happy that Obama is taking the time out to talk to our children,maybe some of these adults need to listen as well.I voted for Obama not because of his color but because I think he's qualified.I love all people it's just these simple-minded people that plucks my last nerve.stan....I'm talking about you and your kind.......I'm proud of Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like most of Obama's speeches I thought it was well said and wish everyone could have heard it. As for all the comments about Catholics and this attack on Stan... good grief people... *shakes his head*. Not everyone is perfect and not all Catholics are saints... after all Jimbo went to Cardinal Mooney and look at the good and the bad he did in the Valley.

The point is we all need to start taking responsibility for ourselves and our children. Raise them right and hopefully they'll turn out alright.

sistersun:

So you just hate white people who can think ? Now as to Obama's qualifications what are they ?

You indeed are a liberal and the proof lies in the fact that you hate conservatives . Is that what you meant about me and my kind ?

What do you think of Alan Keys ? He has far more qualifications than Obama . I'll bet that you hate him because he is a conservative .

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-con...

Alan Keyes is great... "Obama is an Abomination." I am not proud of Obama, he isn't president of the America I believe in.

I may have brought up the issue but you seemed to state that I publicly support it. Better check your tort books and make sure you shepardize correctly.

Anyway, I was merely making a point that it is extremely hard to draw a pro choice person into the realm of championing the death of children, much like it would be extremely hard to draw a catholic into supporting pedifilia. That would be a very big generalization and in this case has no material support.

DG:

"it is extremely hard to draw a pro choice person into the realm of championing the death of children"

Be aware of the fact that Obama unconditionally supports abortion . Now to give you a hint of what abortion does, it kills children .

Get off it already Stan. For Pete's sake, we all get it. You don't like Obama. He supports abortion.

Get back on topic you idiot.

TB :

I notice that you don't have an avatar. Here is one that would comliment your posts .

http://www.giftsandfreeadvice.com/fre...

Well at least this post wasn't about your Catholic beliefs. Maybe we should discuss that on those articles about the bowling scores.

by the way, I didn't click your link. :(

TB :

It was a cool avatar that you could have used here on The Vindy !

Because someone supports choices does mean they encourage or "champion" the killing of children.
It is possible to support a woman's rights and still dislike abortion.
Abortion is arguably the most controversial issue in our country today and there are many levels to discuss.

Since when was killing a right? I'm prochoice, she chose to get knocked up. When are people going to start dealing with consequences of their actions? There is hardly anything to discuss with abortion. This is one issue where the Catholics have got it right.

Yep, next thing you know the science czar will try and fulfill his dream of forced sterilization and forced abortions.

youngstownshrimp, good point that this isn't socialism however fighting over term is just a game of semantics. Big government is something to fear.

ytownshrimp, I have heard that China became a net seller of US debt in June. Look at the dollar index and it is indicative of how afraid people are. I like your thinking. People don't talk about it enough, I try but still I don't believe people get how dire of shape this country is in financially.

Way to blur the original issue! Trying to have a coherent discussion with some of you is akin to talking to a three year old in Toys R Us.

I believe a lot of our problems on a national front can be sourced to the "growth of democracy". The 40% of non-taxpaying America could easily get representatives to give handouts for votes, especially on the national level. When I say the "growth in democracy" I mean the fact that the people now elect Senators rather than the state legislators selecting them in columbus. Rather than fighting for the states that put them in power, they fight for handouts for the people who elected them. We need to restore our electoral system back the way it was before (17th Amendment, I believe) By doing so we will restore state's rights and reduce the power of the central government. There are many more changes that need to be made but this solves the problem of the central government helping politicians buy votes through handouts. That is why we have both the house and the senate because it is a compromise between a truer democracy and a truer republic.

you people need to go to discussions and start a thread. The headline was "Obama to tell students to take responsibility"
Now we got prochoice/prolife, pesos, steriliztions, forced abortions, and everything else.

Your statement again is off topic. Stick to the topic.

You mean attempting to deal with the problems facing this country instead of simply ignoring them or passing them off to the next administration? That's a real lesson in irresponsibility I guess.

sorry. a gridlocked banking system and world-economy was a great idea! he should have left it alone. Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover have been well-remembered for the actions you're proposing. I think their faces are on Mt. Rushmore eh?

I see ignorance never ceases to rear its ugly head. Too bad for the catholics we live in The United States of America and we have the right to our opinions and we have the right to make our own decisions without having to care what you think is the moral high ground. This issue wasn't about abortion anyway, it was about the president of this country (and yes he is the president just like Bush was no matter who likes it so get over it) giving our youth an encouraging stay in school speech. What is wrong with some of you people.

A friend of mine told me her daughter called Poland schools and told them if they were going to play the speech, she was going to keep her kids at home because "Obama is going to make them take a pledge of allegiance to him". Who thinks up this right-wing nuttiness?

UnHinged...."Why don't you fear the left wing nuts as much as you do the right wing nuts?"

Explain again how he's a Nazi then? I'm missing the connection.

What exactly are you beating me at again? I didn't realize this was a contest. I haven't seen the original speech. What did it say exactly?

Did you ever wear a brown shirt? If so, then you must be a Nazi because you have something in common. I guess I can then equate you with someone who systematically killed 6 millions people. Congratulations fascist!