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Report: Obama's stimulus program led to 13,144 Ohio jobs
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A state report says President Barack Obama’s $787 billion economic stimulus plan has saved or created 13,144 jobs in Ohio.
The preliminary data released today is part of a national effort by states to calculate in real time the effect of a government spending program.
Ohio is scheduled to get $8.5 billion in stimulus money over the next several years. State budget director Pari Sabety says Ohio has spent about $1.6 billion so far. Only $335.6 million of that fell within this week’s reporting deadline.
The state didn’t immediately describe the nature of its stimulus-funded jobs. In California, the stimulus was credited with saving or creating 62,000 jobs in public schools and state universities.
Sabety says much of the early spending in Ohio has gone to unemployment benefits, Medicaid payments and other social service programs.
SkyKing310B (98 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days agoCambridge- I don't know who ProMerkin is but I will be glad to e-mail you a picture of her Airplane?!
SkyKing310B (98 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days ago Hey Cambridge- I think you mentioned you were a union pipe-fitter. Just out of curiosity, what is the going Hourly rate for a union pipe-fitter in the Bay area?
ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days ago PIPEfitter in the San Fransicko Bay area. lol. California, the first US state to issue it's own scripe in lieu of American currency. Maybe a mexican Peso would be more like it. Next blue states going down: Taxachusetts, Vermont and Michigan. Doesn't Taxachusetts have a state health care plan? Are the Kennedys and Barney Fwank policyholders? Let's hear it for the Bamster's stimulus plan.Turtle paths for turtles, sign makers, dog poop picker uppers and dog poop scooper makers.
echevlen (1 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days ago The government's own web site for the stimulus program (http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/home.aspx) reports that Ohio has had only 699 jobs created, not 13,144. Vindicator, what does it take for you to do a little INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM to find out why there is a 1,800 percent discrepancy between these two figures? Please, me more than a mimeograph for government claims.
AXLE69 (48 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days ago Pro-Amurrican,I`ve never actually read anything that resembles a legitimate point written by you so I haven`t proved anything as far as that is concerned.You conservatives seem to forget that the bailouts happened while your man Bush was STILL the president.And stop the excuses about not being a GOP`er.I`m sure you`ve voted for Republicans the majority of the time in your life no matter what you were registered as.Don`t be ashamed to admit what you are.I realize the GOP has become the party of the lunatic fringe but you need to be loyal.Teabaggers Forever! LOL!!!!!!
cambridge (915 comments)posted 1 month, 4 days ago SkyKing.....I haven't worked out of the hall in years but I know it's around $45 per hour for journeymen. Add 10% for foreman, 20% for general foreman, 30% for senior general foreman and certen alloy pipe welders get 8% over scale.
SkyKing310B (98 comments)posted 1 month, 3 days ago Cam-That's about double the rate they pay here in Ohio. Thanks for the info.
drrabbit (2 comments)posted 1 month, 3 days ago andersonathan--you made my point exactly about the above quote. If the vast majority of the money has gone where they say it has gone "unemployment benefits, Medicaid payments and other social service programs" then the only 'jobs' created would be those serving in those areas. They are just creating a bigger nanny state.
Decreasing taxes, not increasing spending, is the way to get real growth in the economy.
While it is popular to malign the 'rich' (who are ordinary people with more money than the average) that is where new jobs will come from. One needs money to start and substain a business.
When was the last time you were hired by a 'poor' person?
CathySue1960 (27 comments)posted 29 days, 14 hours ago People I know personally that lost their jobs are STILL without jobs.....not because they arent out there looking either....in some areas there just isnt anyone hiring. So where exactly are these so called jobs that were created ??
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Might as well say it created gazillion jobs. Where are these jobs at? Or has it saved that many jobs and created 2 new ones for the guys that put up the signs saying they created jobs
You don't know the numbers because you did not do the report. Some research on your part would go a long ways.
Obama's stimulus program didn't create one Ohio job; only temporary make work projects. Getting back to the advertisment signs; they cost $3,000 apiece, total cost $340,000+.
Of course Pro-Am,no jobs were created.Only Republicans like Reagan and the Bush boys create jobs with their trillions in tax cuts for the wealthy which then trickle down to ex-union members such as you...Hey wait a second,what am I thinking? The wealthy don`t use that money to create jobs,at least in this country.If the stimulus is keeping people employed NOW,which was the goal,along with keeping unemployment funds flowing then it has worked.I think the signs were created just for you so you can see your tax dollars at work.Maybe you should ask someone who is keeping food on the table from a job CREATED or saved by the stimulus whether it has worked before trying to convince people it hasn`t.You have alot of time on your hands.It shouldn`t be difficult.
Its a very expensive bandaid on a large wound...SAVE TODAY...throw tommorow away
Axle sounds happy with the Bamster's bogus jobs plan. He must be a sign maker. Doesn't he realize all those big taxpayers' bucks went to the big corporations? Wall Street too, lol. He said to ask someone who put food on the table because of the stimulus. Ask someone who had food taken off the table because of the stimulus plan; and they aren't CEOs or Wall Street types. Hey Axle, I hope you can get all that toxic green paint removed before you look like an alien.
You lib/dems can't wait for Obama and his administration to talk. That's all they do. I bet you'll wish you had six ears,so you could hear more.
I have researched. There isnt a number. Has anyone got a job because of the stimulus? Anyone?
My friend was in Poland/Boardman the other day...a man was holding a sign...Will work for food ect.
There were all kinds of things at his feet from generous people...and Im sure some money in his pocket from those people too.(near Star Bucks he was.)
My friend was with his daughter at the time...He said, "I want to see something honey, roll down your window." So she did.
He said he stopped there and said "hey, I see you need a job." So my friend points to a small store with a sign in the window...HELP WANTED...
Now I dont think I have to point out the obvious here. You see, of course he didnt apply there. Not cause he was blind...Not cause he didnt notice it...Not cause he didnt need a job...Not cause he lacked transportation(someone brought him there or most likely his car was in the paking lot)...Say 1000 cars pass you...10%(100) give you 3 dollars each...thats 300 dollars tax free in his pocket.
True story...not made up...as stated above...most of the money has gone towards TODAY(unemployment benefits), not tommorow...same as this guy...Jobs right there...staring him in the face...but the guy who takes the job, busts his butt for about 70 % of that 300 dollars...His stimulus plan sucks...Go get a job cause they are there...not the best ones...but there are jobs
Promise you this...He eats better than the guy who took the job.
I guess thats a job created
You wish
AXLE69.......I know you believe O is the second coming, but you are WRONG! Does the name Bill Gates(WEALTHY PERSON) ring a bell?He created a FEW jobs! As for saving jobs there is NO WAY TO PROVE IT and that's why that term is used, and creating jobs he and congress did...... (the number of federal employes has INCREASED)! Why is it you always go back in time to defend what OBAMA does.HE and YOU have to stand on what he has NOT DONE and not on WHAT HE WILL DO to fix EVERYTHING(his excuse is I'M STILL TRYING).Is that what we will keep hearing for 3years?
Yeah the stimulus led to 13144 jobs.... at the expense of 20000.... but let's ignore the damage it does to the economy and the dollar....
Gold isn't inching up on $1,100 because it cures cancer; it's because people know all of this is coming at the expense to the value of the money they hold.
Price the market in gold it has done nothing in the last couple of months.
Instead of talking about sustainable energy, let's talk about sustainable jobs. The government stimulus will "create" jobs as long as there is stimulus... when it is removed all of those jobs will be lost plus more and then that debt must be repaid.
President George W. Bush saved 28,262,000 lives with his anti-terrorist's policies.
What a bunch of cry baby losers.
CamBilge, still running from the truth? I will pray to your god, the government for you.
The cry baby losers are the ones sucking off the government teet
Cambridge,That's your response? Now that I think back,that's one of your more thought out responses. That number of lives saved by President George W. Bush is now up to 28,043,043,as Obama is still using President George W. Bush's anti-terrorist policies. You know,Patriot Act,Gitmo,still in Iraq.
These posts brought to you by the "Cry Baby Losers of the Moaning Valley".
Those jobs are temporary. When the project is finished the job that was created is over. Are that many stupid people out there that are buying into all this "job creation" made possible by stimulus bailout. It's a joke.
All jobs are temporary . At one time I had over 1 hundred people working for me and at times it would go down to 30 or so . When things picked some whould come back and some did not .
Hope, If you don't know the difference between a temporary job and one where it's meant to be for a career,then that explains why your a lib/dem. Of course crap happens,but long term hiring is much different than a quick fix. If YOU had a 100 people working for YOU,then they'll must of been the caliber of Cambridge. That's no compliment.
Hope, if you employed 100 people at one time, why are you so liberal? Liberalism = higher taxes, excessive regulation, higher unemployment and less tax revenue.
How exactly do you quantify jobs that are saved? Was there a survey taken of every Ohio business that was considering downsizing at some point during 2009 that reconsidered because of the stimulus that I was not aware of?
This whole "saved or created" terminology is crap unless you can actually go out there and quantify it somehow with legitimate data.
You can measure jobs created, but jobs saved is different because you would actually need to know the data on which companies were thinking about downsizing until the stimulus allowed them not to. I doubt the State of Ohio has that kind of data.
Furthermore, if you decide to sample those businesses for jobs saved, which ones are you sampling? Which industry? Are we considering time of year in the case of seasonal business? Are we considering private sector or government jobs? How big or small are the companies we would be sampling? Which part of the state are these businesses in? A business in Columbus may be doing a hell of a lot better than a business in East Liverpool. There are a whole lot of things that would have to be considered when determining what kind of sample to take, and I just don't know if that report even considered these things.
Building the "Transcontinental Railway" was a temporary job so was the highway system, water treatment plants clean drinking water systems, dams, infrastructure and on and on. If the people commenting here had there way none of that would have been built.
I spent my life in construction. Every job i worked on was temporary. The jobs saved or created by the stimulus are for projects that need to be done. The "stimulus" is meant to "stimulate" the economy. Get the ball rolling. Enlarge the tax base and put disposable income into the economy. The people on those jobs would otherwise be on unemployment and missing their house and health insurance payments.
This concept is obviously way to complicated for some people to understand so it's just easier to complain about anything Obama or the Democrats would want to do for the country. At least they have something to do with their lives. I'm sure when Bush was in office all they had was standing in front of their houses and yelling at cars to slow down.
Cambridge, plenty of economists have come out and said that the New Deal prolonged the Depression. Ever heard of Roosevelt's Recession? I expect that this will be no different.
CamBilge, how can you compare building the transcontinental railroad with make work projects like picking up dog poop? Maybe building a turtle crossing for them so they won't get run over? Bush is not longer president. Get over it. Obama's in charge now, and his Marxist-Lenist bosses.
Cambridge, spare me. Democrats complained about Bush since the day he took office in 2000, and they complained, and complained, and complained some more. A lot of them turned it into a full time job and ended up working for news networks. Even when Bush is out of office, we are still hearing complaints. "8 years of this", and "8 years of that", blah blah blah.
You want to talk about not getting a life? David Letterman making fun of Sarah Palin a year after the election because all of a sudden he realizes he cannot make fun of a president who is as far to the left as he is. He needs to get a life. I'm surprised all of the late night hosts are not out of a job yet, because majority of their material was against George Bush and now they are coming up dry.
Cambridge,You're still building things with your Legos & Lincoln Logs?
Democrats = tax & spend
Republicans = borrow & spend
All thieves.
Can't believe I just wasted 5 minutes reading these silly posts.
Freethinker.
That's the smartest response I have read to date.It's amazing how people can turn a blind eye to what their favorite party says and does.
I just gots me a new job wit some people called Acorn.
Hey but Obama has a Nobel Prize, just not in economics.
NOBELOL.
I won't even take time to do the math on the 13,114 jobs and the money that was spent. Because it is a distortion of the truth and this article is painting the pretty side of picture.
Typical conservative drivel.If the media reports something they can`t agree with,it`s wrong.If the report said that the stimulus plan has been an utter and complete failure of course they would be praising it lol.No Rudy,I don`t believe the president is the second coming,just the person who was elected by the majority of voters last fall.Remember that? What was the electoral count again? I don`t know how you conservatives are going to survive the next 8 yrs but I`ll be right here to help you with your therapy,that`s the least I can do for my fellow countrymen and women.Maybe Rush can send all of you some of his pills.By the way,I heard the real reason why the NFL told Limpbaugh to kiss off.If he was the Rams owner,all of their plays were going to go backwards and to the right! LOL!!!!.Ok,I have to follow the advice of the omnipotent Pro-Amurrican and get back to work painting the stimulus signs because there are so very,very many of them.
Debt is about to cross the $12 trillion mark thanks to the failures and lies of both parties.
So Im guessing noone has gotten a stimulus job?
Axle69- No one is saying there is not blame to spread around for both parties, but some really go overboard. To name a few- Murtha, Dingle, Rangle, Byrd, and the biggest offender of all- Pelosi!
Ask Queen Nancy about the $ 120,000/wk she spends on Jet fuel every week commuting back and forth to California. She Flys home every Thursday night and back to Wash on Monday night!Works 3 days a week T,W,Th. Worlds best part-time job! Maybe we should ask Tim Ryan and Charlie Wilson to get us all jobs like hers. I could live very comfortably on her annual fuel bill - a hair under $6 mil.
Axle, thank you for proving my point. The Bamster's Stimulus Plan, provided AIG, GM, Wall Steet firms with hundreds of Billions of your childrens' and grandchildrens' money; he's robbing them with your concent.
Do you want them to be employed by painting Stimulus Signs and picking up dog poop while the big shots and politicians live like royalty?
SkyKing....Nancy Pelosi flies home and uses the same planes that the Republican Speaker of the House and every other Speaker has. I must have missed your post complaining about the Republican Speakers travel.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/di...
Wrong Cambridge-- Check your facts. The Speaker of the House gets a small jet with the job, but Queen Nancy didn't like the fact that the plane did not have transcontinental range and she had to stop and refuel it. She now flies in an Air Force Boeing 757 200 passenger airliner so she can skip the refueling stop. Cost to Taxpayers- $60,000 for fuel each way- not counting the cost of the plane, maintenance and crew! How's that for being green?!
SkyKing, CamBilge knows what you said about Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi is true; thank you for saving me the trouble of pounding him again. I think he enjoys it. He's really told some whoppers, hasn't he? No wonder he's a lib.
I told him numerous times I'm not a GOPer. The GOP is just the more moderate wing of the socialist Democrat Party. Get over it CamBilge, Bush is gone, It's now the Bamster's recession; you libs called it a depression until the Bamster took charge. Now the depression has been downgraded to a recession.
Good time for sign makers and dog poop picker upers. And dog poop scooper makers, lol.
Of coure the state and fed gov't has drastically different numbers.
A state report says President Barack Obama’s $787 billion economic stimulus plan has saved or created 13,144 jobs in Ohio.
Federal website says 699.
why such a big difference?
http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/home.aspx
Wont let me edit the post the 699 is federal jobs created not the total sorry for the mistake the recovery website is one of the most confusing websites I;ve been on
Like the way the Fed always does things- confuse the taxpayer-LMAO!
SkyKing....Check the link in post 42 from factcheck.org. I posted a reliable source for my comment. Your backup is ProMerkin. That pretty much says all there is to say on the subject.
I think the point of this last sentence ought to be stressed a little more.
"Sabety says much of the early spending in Ohio has gone to unemployment benefits, Medicaid payments and other social service programs."
None of this equals job growth. it might keep you off the street, but with out job growth it is useless.
And one must ask the government buying GM for what ever the cost saved how many jobs? Again saved not growth.
Unemployment at 9.8% not counting ones who are out of benefits left empty. Job growth i think not and temporary jobs are just that. Wonder about winter? Construction, road crews? I think it is time to wise up a bit and see we are in very much still in a world of hurt and tossing money after it is not the answer, only one thing will set it straight and that is stable job growth.