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Pishkur would be paid $9,000 weekly as a Forum Health consultant

Published: Mon, October 12, 2009 @ 9:55 a.m.

Forum Health is seeking to pay Walter “Buzz” Pishkur, its former chief executive, $9,000 a week as a consultant.

Forum filed a motion in bankruptcy court last week that asks the matter be included in a previously scheduled Oct. 20 hearing.

Pishkur resigned last month as part of a deal with Forum’s lenders. Forum and the lenders now are working together on a reorganization plan for the health care system.

For more details, see Tuesday’s Vindicator or www.vindy.com.


1Vqueen21(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I would not pay him fifty cents.

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2Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Nine grand a week is a bit pricey .

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3timOthy(802 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Need any help !

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4Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

No ! I would be able to spend that nine grand a week without any help .

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5jeepgirl(4 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

He didn't do the job when he was there and now you want to pay an exec 9,000 for what? He failed while he was there so what insight can he give for the restructuring of Forum Health? This is ignorance in its best form. Excessive spending and another executive making out. What about the nurses and the people that actually run that institution? How many more nurses could be hired back with that money? STUPIDITY!

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6Jon(27 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I'll do the job for $8,000/wk......

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7Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Is that really $ 468,000.00 a year ? This guy pulled the greatest scam in the history of Youngstown. 12 months ago he is an "unpaid volunteer Forum board member" Then he scams his fellow Forum Board members.. Retires from Aqua Ohio with a six figure pension, and adds to his windfall by going from an overpaid Forum administrator to a " $450K consultant with NO HEALTH CARE BACKGROUND." You got Buzzed.. from $0 to $450K for a job he was supposedly doing voluntarily. Another Idiot Decision at Forum !

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8Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Allow me to humbly correct Search4Answers. Pishkur shares responsibility for Forum's financial failures because he is a long-standing member of the Finance Committee of Forum Health's Board of Directors. What was he doing when that same Board was approving of more and more Debt for Forum? Sleeping? Remember ! Forum's immense Debt is the Main Reason the hospital is struggling for survival, Not the Nurse's contract.

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9Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Thanks Search 4. I've got a better suggestion for the Bankruptcy Court. Re-appoint Mr. Pishkur to his VOLUNEEER POSITION ON THE FORUM BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND MAKE HIM CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AGAIN. Then the new Hospital Administrator can get Mr. Pishkurs expert advice for Nothing!...Free!...like in $0. Then take the $450K you'll save and use it to pay for the Nurses and Doctors who do the Real Work at Forum Health.

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10EZD41(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Nurses and doctors are not the only ones working at the hospital. And if other departments were not so handcuffed with some of the bad management decisions, the lack of adequate equipment, minimal supplies and such short manpower all the departments could do a lot better job. Not to mention low moral when you've lost all your personal days, a week of vacation, increase in benefit payments and told to buy your own uniforms, mandatory. All this on less than $14.00 an hour and they give someone jet again an outrageous income, does not help things one bit. Same old song, corruption at it's best.

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

That is $9,000. per week plus expenses !


Pishkur, who would report to Forum’s new CEO, who has yet to be hired, would be paid no more than $9,000 per week, plus “reasonable out-of-pocket business expenses.”

The $9,000 a week Forum proposes to pay Pishkur is equal to the salary he was paid as its CEO.

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12Vqueen21(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

So many questions...

What happened to the search for a suitable CEO with healthcare experience?
What has Forum been compensating Buzz for the three weeks that have passed since his 'step-down?'
Does Forum really think the lenders with allow them to spend anymore of "THEIR" money on Buzz?

Forum, the clock is ticking... when will the ignorance end?

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13Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

$9000 a week... what a scam. How a cash strapped entity like Forum can even suggest paying this kind of money out on a weekly is basis is insulting to ME, and I do not even work there or have a connection to that hospital.

This is Youngstown, OH, not L.A. or New York. If you make $500 a week here you are lucky. $9,000 a week? What exactly does this man bring to the table to justify that kind of salary? If the lenders wanted him out of this, why on earth would they support this instead?

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14hubbardguy(32 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Buzzy needs the money so he can continue to participate in the high-stakes poker game he plays in on Wednesday nights in Hubbard. It really isn't that hard to waste 9 grand a week. If anybody knows how to do it, Buzzy does.

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15mighty1(12 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

No wonder Forum Health is tanking in the toilet!

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16Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Congratulations to the Vindicator for uncovering this minor detail hidden in the Bankruptcy filings. I can't stress this point enough: Less than 6 months ago, Mr. $ 9,000 a week Pishkur......was serving as an UNPAID, VOLUNTEER, Forum Health Board Member. Where he further VOLUNTEERED HIS EXPERT ADVICE FOR FREE AS A MEMBER OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I again suggest that he be Re-Appointed to his position on the Forum Health Board of Directors, allowing the Hospital to benefit from his expert advice for FREE. Forum could get for Free what they want to pay $450K for.

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17Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Where are the Leaders of the Nurse's Union? Where are the Leaders of the SEIU ? Their Silence on this Rape of Forum Health is sad at best. When North Side Hospital is closed because there is no more money to pillage, it will be too late to protest. Enjoy you unemployment and 60% pension cut from the PBGC. Was that Buzz I just saw walking down the street singing " Money..Money..Money !"

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18cambridge(4130 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Crying....Most people that post on this board haven't gotten around to blaming the unions yet. But don't worry they will.

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19mighty1(12 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Money money money money.... MONEY.. while he heads to the gambling table out in Hubbard! It's a shame!

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20CompMan(162 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

According to the Business Journal article “the agreement runs from Oct. 8 through May 31….” $225 per hour is not out of line as an independent contractor status for this type of position, even in this valley, for under a year. He SHOULD be responsible for his own COBRA health benefit payments, receive no incentive payments and not receive any past perquisites such as pension accruals beyond his previous termination date. His role is transitional as a non employee while a new CEO is being hired. This was the creditor’s way to have him leave and pay him based upon "further needed services provided" rather than a termination and straight buy out with a lump sum cash settlement. The creditors most likely are looking for their own majority board members as well.

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21Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

The Vindy should follow up on Pishkur to keep the public informed as to what he does with his nine grand a week . Forum Health has no shame in squandering such a large sum of money for a questionable need . To be paid such a large sum without a long history or in his case any history of successfully running a hospital raises many questions . Only an outcry and condemnation of such practices would bring them to an end .

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22Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Dear CompMan, are you saying that former Mr. Forum Health Board Member...with No Health Care experience or education...who previously volunteered on the Forum Board with NO Compensation...Would SUE Forum Health for being Terminated? Surely you jest! You say he is going to be paid for "further needed services..." What would they "need" Mr. Pishkur for, they just terminated his because they had "No Confidence" in his lack of ability to run a hospital system. Are both you and the Business Journal attempting to justify giving this man $ 9000 a week?

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23JeffWarren(5 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Forum's Board should all be fired tonight for having the nerve to even ask the court to approve $9K/week for an inexperienced, unproven, totally incompetent person. What a slap in the face to everyone trying to survive the lousy leadership that we've had to deal with lately.
Lenders, union leaders, physicians and all employees need to express their outrage immediately to everyone before it is too late. Hopefully the judge that hears this request will be wise enough to deny it.

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24Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Great Post Jeff Warren . More Bad News! Pay attention to the magistrate who hears this pay request. Would you be surprised if you heard it was one of Mr. Pishkur's golfing buddies from Youngstown Country Club. I agree with you about firing Forum's Board NOW. Remember, it was this Board that hired their fellow Board member with NO HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE. This Board agreed to pay a Water Salesman with Basketball Referee experience more than $ 800,000.00 a year to fix the hospital they (and He) led into bankruptcy.

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25jmpt37(43 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

$9000 a week huh, and everyone wonders why forum is in financial crisis and laying people off. Couldnt that money have been used to save some of those employees who lost their jobs? no we cant do that pishkur def deserves $9000 a week LMAO!!!!!!! god thats the funniest thing ive heard in a long time.

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26gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I believe STAN or CAMBRIDGE or HUBBARDGUY and many of the posters on this site could fix it.
[for a lot less than $9,000.00 grand per week].
Some things never change????

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27Cicero(39 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Crying: This request will be heard by Bankruptcy judge Kay Woods, not some magistrate. Pretty sure she does not play golf with Buzz at YCC.

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28deonelynn(4 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Forum health has been tanking since they have merged hospitals in the name of progress. They have been spending millions on consulting groups for the past 10 years to try to figure out how they should run the entity. Well, all those millions spent and the Forum Heath has been drained into bankrupcy but even now there continues to be a drain with another "consultant".

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29shadowman(67 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

It's no wonder Forum Health is in financial problems. They are paying this smuck $9000 a week to continue to run this organization into the ground! I would have taken $1000 a week to do it and I don't have any experience either!!!

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30jmpt37(43 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I would easily run it deeper into the ground for $1000 week.

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31SickofJimbo(140 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

My question is; Who is Buzz playing poker with on Wedsday night in Hubbard? And does he bet like crazy only to fold with 4 Aces?

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32aspin444(24 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Something is wrong with this story and it smells bad. Forum Board needs to step up and give some answers instead of letting one man take the fall. Does anyone know the names of thr Board members?

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33Crying(11 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

The Forum Board of Directors are at fault for all of the poor business decisions over the past decade..including giving Buzz an employment contract instead of hiring him on a per diem basis until a new CEO was retained. Remember! Buzz is receiving a 6 Figure Pension from Aqua Ohio, in addition to his $9,000 a week from Forum. Were the Forum Board members dumb enough to think that Buzz had other job opportunities? Forum Board Members you got Scammed and Buzzed. Not one comment from One Board Member? That SAYS it all my friends.

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34aspin444(24 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Whats your beaf against Buzz. The problem is saving Forum Health from these loan sharks because this valley and these workers are what is important. Paying an outsider $75,000 a month plus is a disgrace and will be the downfall of Forum. As a concerned citizen of this valley - what can I do?

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35Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

" As a concerned citizen of this valley - what can I do?"

Send Forum Health a check for $75,000. Your generosity will be appreciated . One donor a month would truly show the generosity of the community .

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36earthtoscotty(2 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

The board at Forum didn't have the balls to support Buzz's plan that's why this is such a big mess.Instead they let the lenders have control. Just protecting their own a----! The math skills of the general population and the unions who run Forum are questionable. Apparently $75,000 is okay.The support for the outsider & hatchet man only goes to show the lack of intelligence and ignorance. When the pink slips are handed out & cuts made & mayble a hospital or 2 closed, people will be standing around scratching their behinds and wondering what happened. The politicians are nothing but a bunch of gutless wonders. What a community we live in! JUST BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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37kjustice(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

As an employee of Forum I also went along with the consessions and was positive with what we thought we could accomplish. Our union leadership and Buzz worked hard to get us back in the mainstream and back to a profitable business. The doctors were happy, the community leaders (mayors, business owners, politicians) were happy and employees all took a great interest in our commitment to the valley to be competitive and remain in business. Why did the court system fail us by permitting the Lenders to take over the day to day operations of our hospitals costing us tons of $$$? For the first time in history we were all united and working together.

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38kjustice(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

ooops Sorry I spelled concessions wrong. I was in a hurry.

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39anothermike(227 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Not a member of "organized" labor myself, but anyone should be able to see why they object to concession after concession. There is absolutely nothing this "Buzz" dude could possibly do for Forum or any other hospital to warrant that kind of compensation. Never ceases to amaze me how gullible some people are. Not only is he a failure, the committee is going to give him the opportunity to prove it one more time.......

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40JD010101(137 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

kick the whole board of directors out if they allow this to happen. they are not looking out for the best interest of forum health or the valley. staff are taking cuts,freezes and furloughs and this guy gets 9k a week. what dirt does he have on someone? suely he's not being paid for his expertise. he has none. Forum could hire a DC lobbyist for the same dough and I'm being honest.

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41aspin444(24 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

The Lenders don.t give a xxxx about the employees or this community. Just money. The employees, the Unions, and Buzz united to gain stability. For all those who say they can do it better. Shut up, put up, or get out of the way We must dedicate our efforts to keep the doors at all sites open and minimize the $$$ that the Lenders are taking from us and stop the job losses.

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