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Group posts 'Godless billboards' in Ohio cities


Published: Wed, November 11, 2009 @ 9:28 a.m.

CINCINNATI (AP) — A group says what it calls “Godless billboards” in Ohio’s biggest cities are aimed at raising awareness about people who don’t believe in God.

The Washington, D.C.-based United Coalition of Reason has put up large billboards in Cincinnati, Columbus and the Cleveland area with the message: “Don’t believe in God? You are not alone.” There’s also the Web address for the group’s local chapter in each community.

In a statement, the group says millions of humanists, atheists and agnostics live in the U.S. and the signs seek to reach out to them.

Coalition national director Fred Edwords says the group’s previous billboard campaigns have drawn generally positive responses and only minor criticism.

The billboards will stay up for 30 days.


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1NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. - Romans 1:20

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2Tigerlily(405 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Good for you, NilesOhio. Keep your faith. But leave others alone about it.

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3Kokomo(19 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

So, let me understand the logic behind Tigerlily's statement: "Keep your faith. But leave others alone about it."

The Godless can promote their (faith / ideology) through public billboard campaigns, but NilesOhio can not.

yeah, okay.

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4JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

The fact that they are called the United Coalition of Reason is fantastic.

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5NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the support. It's nice to see that others aren't going silent so as to not offend those who will be offended by practically anything.

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6epicfail(217 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Reminding them they have to belief "just because" or else (and that's exactly what 1:18-22 does) is exactly the reason they are likely to turn away from faith.

I see that passage as one of the weaker endorsements of the Christian faith. It's one for the converts to pat themselves on the backs for how much smarter they are than the faithless.

...and everyone has a right to promote their faith or lack thereof. I see plenty of billboards for Christianity and it's many flavors. All men are brothers in the church of the holy capitalist :-)

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7NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

EpicFail - Your assumption that in essence that faith is blind is not accurate. Faith is knowing based on solid evidence that something or someone exists without being able to physically see it/them. Does a hurricane exist if you can't see the wind? If you can't see electricity, would you grab hold of a bare wire?

My reference to Romans 1:20 was simply to state that from God's viewpoint, it is inexcusable for anyone to say he doesn't exist. Just look around and imagine how all of this variety of life could have come about by chance.

If you or others don't agree, that's fine. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint, as am I.

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8epicfail(217 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

"If you or others don't agree, that's fine. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint, as am I."

Agreed! I don't believe it's rational that life came about by chance. Whatever the "united coatlion" believes is their own business. Though honestly, I don't think they believe that either. They just reject the theological viewpoints.

Though I would ask what is the solid evidence that God exists? Keeping in mind, if it can't be expressed in numbers it's just an opinion.

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

JUST THE FACTS !
http://thescroogereport.files.wordpre...

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10leaveusalone(103 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Relax, and enjoy the humor and irony. If your faith declares that God is with or in each of us, it stands to reason that God is putting up the billboards.........

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11NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

"Keeping in mind, if it can't be expressed in numbers it's just an opinion."

Ok, let's try to come at it from a strictly mathematical viewpoint.

* It is currently estimated that there are over 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (not counting planets.) Where did all that come from, and why is it so organized?

* George Gallup, a renowned statistician, was quoted as saying "“I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone—the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity."

If I had time, I would dig up some more references. However, one exercise that I would like to propose to those who claim that God doesn't exist is to statistically determine the probability that life could exist on this planet without any intervention. That's not even taking into account the staggering variety of life.

One line of thought that I found irrefutable is that life does exist. Follow that line of progression backwards:
* Life doesn't exist but the Earth does.
* Where did the Earth come from?
* Where did space come from for the Earth to be able to exist?

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12NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

By the way, the last part of the "line of thought" is what convinced me personally. I wasn't trying to imply that it's a mathematical model.

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13epicfail(217 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

I agree with what you're saying for the most part. Everything did come from something. However there's no convincing basis for believing in God over Vishnu, Odin, Zeus or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

And I would also take issue with your Gallup quote. I've studied how the eye evolved over the eons from simple light sensors to the amazing device it is today. Extreme complexity does not necessitate design. (though it does not exclude it!)

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14NilesOhio(318 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

There are definitely a variety of responses to this whole billboard article. Thanks for the dialog and for your viewpoints (and some humor, too!)

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15Kokomo(19 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Some time ago (1990's?), a mathematical computation was made which equated the probability that our known universe was simply a matter of "chance"

was about the same as

a tornado crossing over a junkyard and assembling the random pieces into a completely functioning automobile...

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