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Ex-pastor pleads to assault, gets no jail time



Published: Fri, November 6, 2009 @ 12:09 a.m.

By John W. Goodwin Jr.

A victim who addressed the court said the former Cornersburg clergyman believed he was invincible.

YOUNGSTOWN — A former pastor accused of rape has cut a deal avoiding jail time, but he could not avoid a searing lecture from the woman who says he abused her.

Dale Giffin, 60, of Topaz Circle, Canfield, under an agreement with county prosecutors, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of assault. Giffin was initially indicted on six counts of rape by a Mahoning County grand jury in February.

Judge James Evans of common pleas court sentenced Giffin immediately after accepting his guilty plea Thursday morning.

Giffin was sentenced to one year in prison with all the prison time suspended. He was ordered to pay a $1,500 fine, perform 240 hours of community service and spend the next two years on probation with the first 30 days being spent on house arrest. Giffin also is banned from serving as a member of the clergy.

Giffin was pastor of Zion Lutheran Church in Cornersburg. He served as pastor of the 2,327-member Cornersburg church for nearly 30 years until he resigned from that post and from the ministry last November.

The charges stem from allegations of rape brought forward in August 2008 by a former church member. The indictment accused Giffin of raping the woman while she was a young adult parishioner between 1993 and 1996.

There were accusations of sexual conduct while the girl was a minor, but too much time had passed to bring those allegations to court.

Prosecutors recommended Giffin be placed on probation and not be allowed to serve as a member of the clergy as part of the plea agreement.

Natasha Frenchko, an assistant county prosecutor, said the prosecutors office is happy with the agreement and Giffin’s admission that something took place between he and the woman. She said the plea deal was reached because of concerns over what level of force was used against the woman during the sex acts.

“We are asking this based on evidentiary issues after the defendant was indicted,” she told the court. “There are evidentiary issues concerning the amount of force or the type of force,” she told the court.

Giffin appeared in court wearing a dark suit and white shirt with his attorney J. Gerald Ingram. He sat without emotion as the victim in the case addressed the court, and at times him directly, changing his expression only when the woman mentioned comments Giffin allegedly made to her about his wife.

The accuser, who attended the hearing with a group of family members and friends, read a statement to the court about her feelings toward Giffin and detailed some of the acts she said he committed upon her over the years.

“This man has been living a lie for the last 30 years, preaching from the pulpit and plotting his next sexual quest,” she said. “Dale Giffin fooled me just as he did other members of that congregation.”

The woman said Giffin would make eye contact and gestures toward her from the pulpit of the church. She said Giffin did not miss an opportunity to make a sexual gesture or perform a sexual act with her, often times when other members of the church were walking nearby halls or in nearby rooms.

The accuser, now married with three children, told the court the sexual abuse from Giffin started when she was 15 and he told her to come to the church for a project, but ended up fondling her leg and kissing her. She said Giffin, a few weeks later, led her to the basement of the church and had sex with her on a cold floor.

The woman said she was left by her father at the age of 6 and was looking for a father figure in Giffin, but told the court that she “walked right into the arms of a molester and rapist.” She said she was made to feel like family at times and an object for sexual gratification at other times.

“Dale Giffin never missed an opportunity to satisfy his sexual desire. ... There was never a break, never just a talk or how are you,” she said.

The woman told the court the sexual activity went on in the church and at Giffin’s home with his family close by.

“He acted like he was invincible,” she added.

Ingram told the court Giffin has never been in trouble with the law, is gainfully employed and cares for his 86-year-old mother. He also pointed out that the accuser has had willing contact with Giffin, such as at her wedding and visits to Giffin’s home with her husband and child, long after she was an adult.

Ingram read excerpts from letters supplied to the court in support of Giffin.

“Virtually every letter speaks to Dale Giffin’s compassion, empathy and the wonderful effect he has had on their lives,” Ingram said.

Giffin did address the court, saying the allegations and subsequent court proceedings already have ruined his life.

“My career and livelihood are gone. My personal reputation has been destroyed. ... This past year has been a living hell,” he said.

Giffin, before sentencing, asked the court to remember the good things he has done.

Judge Evans, after his ruling, said he hoped the church could bring itself back together using the situation to find strength.

jgoodwin@vindy.com


Comments

1ojanet22(134 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Oh, the poor pervert's life and reputation was ruined! Boo-hoo! You choose the behavior, you choose the consequences. As for his attorney, would you let him babysit your young female relatives?

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2AKAFR1(322 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

What about the victim's life? Do you think that was destroyed Pastor Giffin?

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3Attis(864 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Shame on the judicial system and the Lutheran Church! You have just sent a loud and clear message to all future rapists: Rape to your hearts/gonads content, but do it in the name of God and with a clerical collar and you get away with the functional equivalent of murder. How shameful.

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4ghostfromthepast(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

ARE YOU KIDDING ME! HOW MANY RED FLAGS DO WE NEED?????????????? WE KNEW DALE PP (PERVERTED PASTOR)AS THE YOUNG KIDS WOULD CALL HIM YEARS AGO AND LEFT THE CHURCH WHEN WE SAW FLAGS GO UP.WE TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT HIM BUT THEY DIDNT SEEM TO CARE.SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH OUR COURT SYSTEM.WHEN THIS HAPPENS AGAIN AND IT WILL DO NOT SAY YOU WERE NOT TOLD.I JUST WANT TO SAY TO DALES VICTIMS DO NOT LOSE YOUR FAITH TRUST GOD AND LET HIM HANDLE IT FOR ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5wastepro(46 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I think she needs to have a civil suit against him and the Lutheran Church.

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6crazy8(19 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Ya, poor him. He admits his guilt by cutting a deal then says his life is ruined. Right. He ruined his life by his actions. Did he ever think once that his actions would have serious consequences? Apparently not, or he wouldn't have done what he did. Did he ever think for a second of the parishioners of his church? No. He thought of noone but himself and how invincible he was. Karma always comes back on you.

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7smiley330(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

The Lutheran Church tried to take Dale to the church's court. He knew he would be found guilt so he resigned. When he resigned he was no longer part of the church and their ability to do anything was at that time stopped. If all the other victims are upset with him not getting jail time, they need to band together and bring new charges. Also, I think when the prosecutor comes up for re-election the community may need to get a new prosecutor. Maybe a female prosecutor would have the guts to prosecute. My prayers are with the victims and the church.

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8crazy8(19 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Well. For all of you who argued with me back in May or June that Dale Giffin would never do such a thing: Do you feel comfortable saying that now? I told you all that the truth would come out eventually. Dale has truly admitted his guilt and has gotten away with a slap on the wrist. He chose to resign from the ECLA when he was asked to resign from Zion. He knew then that he would never preach again. Too many people were going to testify against him, i.e. Pastor Mark Williams and his wife Janine. I recall others bringing Mark up in past blogs. Now we know why he left the church.

Thus, no trial or jury because Dale knew he was done. It is over. I pray for his family and for those that have been affected by his actions. He stated that "his life is ruined". Really? He did it to himself and has no one else to blame for his actions. He is his own worst enemy.

I don't see any of you nay sayers in this blog now. You were real quick to come to his defense back in May/June. Do you still stand up for him now?

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9ojanet22(134 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Pervs always know who the most vulnerable children are, then they zero in on them like a rat to cheese. It's a shame that all the warnings were ignored and children paid the price.

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10AKAFR1(322 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

He may not have to register as a sexual predator but his neighbors should post signs.

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11Ginger76(178 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

WHAT A PIG,

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12Ginger76(178 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I hope she sues him and the church for everything they have.

I love how the family stands behind him.

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13ojanet22(134 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Ginger, please don't insult pigs. They are really very nice critters. The "pastor" should be called a monster because that is what he represents to his victims. I totally agree with your other statements.

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14Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

If you ask me, these charges were completely bogus. How exactly do you get from six rape charges down to a simple assault, if you could even call it that? Explain that to me please, because I would love to hear a rationalization for it. Sounds like the evidence was completely weak.

The real question that ought to be asked is why this woman decided to come forward NOW after 15 years. How exactly do you come to the conclusion that fifteen years is a long enough time?

I am sorry, but something about this story does not add up. While something probably did happen, I doubt very much it was a rape if 1.) the person waited over fifteen years and reported nothing to the police and was in regular contact with Dale and 2.) six charges of rape are dropped to simple assault.

This is why the identity of both the accuser and the accused should be kept secret, in the event the allegations are fabricated or in the event there is not a conviction of rape.

15 years of waiting and in regular contact? Sorry, but this stinks something rotten.

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15purplemoon112(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

After all these years I feel vindicated. It wasn't just me getting weird vibes from him. He was the problem. I feel very sorry for the victim and her family. And I feel sorry for Dale's wife Cathy and for Charlie and Robbie. But most of all I finally know for sure that I am not crazy - he is!!!!

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16liveyourbestlife(7 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Dale giffin raped and abused poor church girls
With a cane that he twirled around his diamond ring finger
At a Lutheren Church society gath'rin'.
And the cops were called in and his weapon took from him
As they rode him in custody down to the station
And booked Dale Giffin for first degree rape and molestation
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Take the rag away from your face.
Now ain't the time for your tears.

Dale Giffin, who at about fifty years
Owns an apartment building an of six hundred rooms
With a rich wealthy family who provide and protect him
And high office relations in the politics of Ohio,
Reacted to his deed with a shrug of his shoulders
And swear words and sneering, and his tongue it was snarling,
In a matter of minutes on bail was out walking.
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Take the rag away from your face.
Now ain't the time for your tears.

The victims were young maidens of the church.
They were fifteen years old and went to church for confirmation
They carried the bibles and took out the communion
And never stood once at the head of the pulpit
And silently walked among the people at the congregation
Who just cleaned up the wine from the sacrifical table
And emptied the pews on a whole other level,
Got raped by a blow, lay slain by sexs act
That sailed through the air and came down through the room,
Doomed and determined to destroy all the gentle.
And they never done nothing to Dale Giffin.
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Take the rag away from your face.
Now ain't the time for your tears.

In the courtroom of honor, the judge pounded his gavel
To show that all's equal and that the courts are on the level
And that the strings in the books ain't pulled and persuaded
And that even the nobles get properly handled
Once that the cops have chased after and caught 'em
And that the ladder of law has no top and no bottom,
Stared at the person who raped for no reason
Who just happened to be feelin' that way without warnin'.
And he spoke through his cloak, most deep and distinguished,
And handed out strongly, for penalty and repentance...

Dale Giffin without a six-month sentence.
Oh, but you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now's the time for your tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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17emeraldlady_03(9 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

To the procecutors of this case. SHAME on YOU. To the JUDGE on this case. DOUBLE SHAME ON YOU to allow him off with such a mild sentence. Remember your oath as an attorney. Remember how you felt about what good you could do for the public. How do you feel now?

Disappointed Voter and Resident of Mahoning County and member of ZION

Yes, I am ashamed I was not aware of what was going on when I was involved in the confirmation classes. Maybe because I was who I was is why Dale did not ask me to come back and help the next year. I might have figured it out. AND I would have blown the whistle.

Men like this don't change.
And he never said he was sorry.

Because he isn't....he is just an angry old man now without the power of the clergy tro hide behind.

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18Ginger76(178 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Ginger, please don't insult pigs. They are really very nice critters. The "pastor" should be called a monster because that is what he represents to his victims. I totally agree with your other statements.

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You are so right.....
I take it back....

Monster it is.

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19mightknowfacts(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Wow....such Christian people here....

Why would a person who was "abused" invite that person and family to their wedding...years later? or visit their home with their husband and family...years later?

I agree with Alextown....some things just don't add up quite right. Not saying nothing happened but sometimes things aren't exactly as they seem.

If it all went down they way the accuser said it did, then it is up to God to pass final judgement...not us. If it didn't, then God will handle those people's judgement day as well.

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20JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Wait, is that a song posted above? Right on.

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21blbg29(3 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

This guy is a creep as is most sexual predators. Some use physical force, others christian coercion, and even others simple mind games. They prey on the weak and down-trodden. Many will be in their pulpits on Sunday preaching "a word from God" and many of us will support him with their "Amen" and offerings, knowing they're just not right. These people keep their position because the church makes them a god of sorts and who would ever want to insult God? If they saw the act in person, they wouldn't believe it...shame on the church! Do something when there are allegations...follow up. Stop pushing issues under the rug!

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22fullofsecrets(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Dale Giffin is a old dirty pervert. I grew up going to Zion and he was at many times inappropriate. He just like other "monsters" the TBK, John Gacy, etc.. are all the same. Community leaders who have the respect of neighbors and peers but have managed to fool everyone around him for many years while preforming horrific acts to so many people. The man should rot in prison for the rest of his life. He got off easy. If I were him I'd disappear and never show my face around town again. I'm glad the truth is finally out for all to see and I hope his past year of "living hell" continues for the rest of his rotten, worthless life.

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23clowns_of_ytown(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I have to disagree with most of you. What a strong case the prosecutor’s office must have had to reduce the sentence to a simple assault. Evidentiary issues, a.k.a. we don’t have any. I also love how all of you just assume the accusations are spot on. Sheep. I also can’t understand why someone who was soooo victimized and traumatized would of their own free will visit repeatedly with him. From Colorado ! Also just out of curiosity why were members of the court room who have no family relation to the accuser escorted to their vehicles by the sheriffs department?

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24scrappy(20 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

People of the Mahoning Valley: Fear not!!! This is not the end of this story, but rather the beginning. It is just a matter of time before this all comes out in the wash when other victims come forward. This monster will get his just reward. It will take time but just be patient. All monsters like him end up thrown in the garbage pile of hell. His destiny awaits him. People like him who want everything like power, wealth, and sex, eventually end up with nothing. He was an obvious power junkie and sex addict who sat on his high white horse and lived the exclusive life of luxury in Canfield. He looked down on people who did not have wealth like himself. He thought he was untouchable but underestimated the almighty power of our living God. He wanted it all. So all I have to ask Dale Giffin now is: How do you like your wonderful life now???????

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25factcheck(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

To "clowns_of_ytown":
Whoa there better get your facts straight! The victim NEVER visited the Giffin household once she left the Midwest...as the court record will show, Ingram's statement mentioned ONE visit, back in 2001 when she was still in the area. As others have stated, victims of this type of abuse under that kind of control feel as if they have to play the predator's game to avoid the speculation that not following the expected pattern of behavior would cause...a visit like that occurs out of obligation and fear. People could really benefit from reading a book on sexual abuse, particularly of minors to better understand and minister to victims and to better protect potential victims.

"Evidentiary issues" may speak to the quality of the work of the prosecutor's office or interpretation of the existing law, but does not at all speak to the nature of the facts of Giffin's criminal behavior. The saddest part of this whole story is that ANY statute of limitations exists for crimes against minors. Fact is there are several victims that pre-dated the brave soul who came forward and cooperated with the prosecutor's office, others whose abuse occurred after this victim. Hopefully some of those more recent victims still inside their statute will be empowered to bring charges against him and bring greater justice to all. Give it one second of thought, there is NO SELFISH MOTIVE to come forward, it only costs her, rather it is a SELFLESS act to protect others.

As for the escort, that is the recommended procedure of the victim/witness department--clearly a good practice to protect the innocent from potentially threatening/dangerous stalkers (like you apparently)! I guess the clowns of ytown (as Giffin would have smugly referred to most of the population) have identified their ring leader!

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26johnwirtz(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Mr. Giffin complains his life ruined, career gone, reputation destroyed. Bishop Elizabeth Eaton seems to believe the allegations of sexual abuse credible but makes no comment about the plea deal to simple assult. It's all about the image of the clergy and the appearance of the church. Does anyone care about the victim (s)?
A new movie now showing is titled: "Law Abiding Citizen" is worth viewing. Story line is about a man whose wife and daughter are brutally murdered but the perps get off easy. Outraged, he tries to get authorities to understand why he is outraged. It's something to think about considering the thousands of sexually abused that have had to sue in pursuit of JUSTICE

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27blue22(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

To Clowns,

Seriously? Blame the victim? That's not very original, but when there is NO defense for a grown man's criminal actions I suppose that's the best you can do, huh?

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

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28olepops45(39 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

To 'clowns and Alexinytown:
You need to spend some time with therapists and rape councilors to understand the mental damage the victims go through. The denial, shame, rage and burying of memories are only a few reasons to delay confronting their attackers. It doesn’t matter if that comes at one month, year or decade afterward.

Once again, Atty. Ingram uses the term adult woman about when she saw him later in life. Was that to cover your tracks back when you called the 16 year old victim a willing and consensual adult.
Tell me that’s your idea of adult. How many 16 yr. olds work at your firm. If you have daughters, that wouldn't bother you if 45 yr. old men had their sick pleasures with your teenagers. You and Giffin should be comfortable together in Hell.

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29Ihopenotmetoo(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

FactCheck

I also saw people from the court room outside of the courthouse with a Sherriff. I hope this does not make me a stalker too. Yikes.

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30angelsallaround(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

How can it be that so many people were fooled by Dale Giffin? He is not the person you thought he was. He is a very sick individual. How could he preach from the pulpit every Sunday, knowing what he had done to so many young girls and women? He has no feelings or apathy. His God is CONTROL, MONEY AND SEX!!

The young woman that read her story to the Judge, to the people in the courtroom, and to THE MONSTER, is to be applauded. She had to go back to the terrible,gross, sick things he had done to her and let everyone hear the injustices this so-called"man of God" had done. He is a sorely twisted animal.

I truly think those people on church council (you know who you are ) watched out for Dale and let him get away with these disgraces. They also let the church and congregation down. They were like his bodyguards. Really sick!!!

There are so many angels out their who have supported the victim that came forward, and the victims that need to come forward. This ANIMAL does not need just a slap on the hand, but put behind bars and labeled Child Molester!!!!!!!!!!

I pray for the victim may God bless her, and I pray for all the others who were scarred by this ANIMAL. I have faith in our God, that if justice is not served now, it will be when he is judged by our loving God. I don't expect to see him in the Heaven I hope to go to.

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31IknowZion(8 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

He is a sick freak who does not belong in society. I agree with factcheck that statutes should not exist when it comes to crimes against minors. There should be NO limitation. If that were the case, Dale would be sitting in jail instead of on his sofa watching football.

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32Beth(1 comment)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Thank you to the courageous woman who came forward. It's frightening and baffling to me that christian men and women have dismissed the allegations over the years. I went to the sentencing in support of this woman because I have a friend who was victimized by Dale Giffin. From what I understand, there are many. Had more people stepped up earlier, who knows how many victims might have been spared. "The law" kept much of the evidence of additional victims from being presented from what I can tell, making this case about so much more than one victim. In this day and age, we all know the statistics... sexual predators are repeat offenders. Thank you to the Bishop, and those who came forward. Complaints were filed against this man. How many more were victimized? And to those who stood by him while he committed crimes against children???
And women? I would have been sobbing in that courtroom. To those who were in the courtroom in support of Dale Giffin, and seemed to "celebrate" outside the courtroom afterwards, I can only imagine that
the "gains" of your relationship with Dale Giffin have blinded you. To the judge who ordered 240 hours of community service. I thought I saw you choke on that statement as you processed exactly what you were saying out loud in front of everyone.
And Dale Giffin...To say out loud in front of everyone that your life had been difficult this last year? And your reputation ruined?? He truly
didn't get it, did he. Thank you again to this victim, for your SELFLESS pursuit of justice. You put yourself out there, knowing that your every
action would be scrutinized. God bless you and thank you.

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33starofesther(168 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

PASTORS HAVE A STRICKER JUDGEMENT BEFORE THE ALMIGHTY GOD>>>We all have to give account one day.... Yes, He was wrong........
16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

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34shiningstar(4 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Well Mahoning County you have such a reputation, and you certainly lived up to it.What a mockery of justice, No wonder people won't come forward. And to the few of you who wondered WHY she didn't come forward sooner, PLEASE do a little homework and get your brain in gear before you waggle your toungs. You have no idea what trama and heartbreak this causes not for just a short time but ALL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE not to mention the pain and suffering it causes all of your friends and family, I can not get the picture of that poor girls Mother out of my mind, I can't imagine the pain she was feeling as she sat there quietly sobbing and listening to her Daughter recount the actions of this common criminal. I too agree there should be NO statutes when the crimes are against childeren. To you clowns_of_ytown, you also need to do a little research, the sheriff walking out with non members of the family was simply a friend who stopped by on the way home from work. Not that it is any of your business.

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35steelerman09(111 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Let's see....go to trial and have a chance of jail time, but if you admit that you did it, you only get a fine, probation, and a smack on the wrist. Our judicial system is in shambles. Always has been and always will be. Also, there actually ARE some great pastors in America, but unfortunately it's guys like this that give them all a bad reputation.

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36Ladytaz0930(69 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I just can't believe this, for this reason I have a personal relationship with God. You can not trust the priests next it will be the nuns raping the boys.

Why do they always get away with this madness. Anyone else facing 6 counts of rape would not be seeing the streets no time soon.

Yes I agree that something is not right with the lady's story, if you raped me you sure would not be going to my house or wedding.

If this was a black preacher would he get away with a slap on the wrists? No, he would be facing probably 10 years in prison.

This has to stop start killing the priests as they get away with too much especially the white ones.

Disgusted and Angry.

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37IknowZion(8 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Factcheck, what is the statute of limitations for crimes against minors?

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38ads(109 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I cannot believe they let this monster go free. His life is ruined what about his victims. Did I hear lynching???

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39angelsallaround(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I think of the victim that spoke of Dale Giffin's aka Monster and hope that some way this has helped to heal her. It took alot of guts to get up and read that statement that went back to when she was 15 years old. I wonder also, as many, what has happened to our justice system. If you have the money you to pay an attorney, who is apparently sick as the Monster, and you get off with a slap on the hand. Money talks, doesn't it? I too say shame on our justice system. It is all about politics, and it just about makes me want to throw up.
I only pray that what this young women had to say about that dirty Monster will not be forgotten by the people who were in that courtroom, by the members of Zion who have be betrayed by a sick, sick sex addict and the public. Remember, it can take years for a victim to come forward.
Another thing, I think the people of Zion should ask their DAUGHTERS, GRANDDAUGHTERS, WIVES, AND SISTERS, if that filthy Monster every laid a hand on one of them. It is important that they come forward, so that this Monster can be labeled as a sexual predator, and have to register as so wherever he lives. We need Monsters like him off the streets and behind bars. I'm sure this is why the victim came forward, to save others from harm. Why is it that people get put behind bars for other crimes that are not even close to what the Monster has done to young girls and women? What does that say about JUSTICE?

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40dateline111(41 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Black Adulterous Pastor Kenny Simon of New Bethel Baptist Church is being honored by the Youngstown Black Caucus with 40.00 a ticket banquet.This Pastor admited to his congregation that he was in a sexual relationship with a female parishioner for approximately two years.The Mahoning county courts would be overloaded if the leadership of area black clergymen held them accountable for their sexual immorality.I comment the leadership of Zion Lutheran Church for taking a couragious stance against this wolf in sheeps clothing.

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41shiningstar(4 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Hey anglesallaround No it doesn't say much for our justice system, however the good thing is we do VOTE remember this when you go to the polls. This whole thing is just really sad,I think the bad thing is that Dale Giffin got away without having to register as a sexual predator.I hope that Judge and defence attorney sleeps well the next few years.

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42metrodawg(70 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

BEWARE THE FALSE PROPHET

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