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Mooney-Ursuline football dilemma solved

Published: Mon, November 2, 2009 @ 12:10 p.m.

The great debate about where Mooney and Ursuline would play their first-round playoff games has been decided.

Mooney athletic director Don Bucci called the Ohio High School Athletic Association on Monday, and OHSAA assistant commissioner Henry Zaborniak, after a meeting with other staff members, declared that Mooney would have first option since the Cardinals are the No. 1 seed in Division III, Region 9.

Obviously, Mooney chose to play at Stambaugh Stadium on Friday at 7:30 p.m. against Mogadore Field.

Ursuline athletic director Jim Maughan confirmed shortly after 1 p.m. that Ursuline's game vs. Garfield Heights Trinity, also on Friday at 7:30 p.m., will be played at Girard High's Arrowhead Stadium


1Jbreed2011(37 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Provided Fitch doesn't have a football game at that time Ursuline should play there.

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2valleyred(1103 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Yes it should have been Fitch, but I guess they have a sadie hawkins dance that night. O well, their loss and Girard's gain.

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3gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

GO IRISH!!!! Does NOT really matter where, when, what, why OR how: UHS rules...THE END

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4wachinovia(5 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Real fair of OHSAA letting Girard host two play off games on the same week end.

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5Leprechaun(1 comment)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Ursuline should have 1st choice at Stambaugh. They are right across the street, no need to hire buses, can walk there, which they do. Mooney has to hire buses anyway, so why cant they travel to Girard or wherever. GO IRISH

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6ts1227(137 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

wachovia, the OHSAA gets all of the gate money that doesn't come from presale tickets at the schools. It's not like Girard is rolling in the dough here because they are hosting this... the only money they are getting is the concession stand money and whatever they negotiated to get Ursuline to pay them (if anything)

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7wachinovia(5 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

ts you are incorrect - Girard gets paid -Athletic dept. a flat fee to host a game and are allowed to charge for parking along with concessions

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8BGGHammer(21 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Bucci at it again, Im so tired of Mooney, I hope then get beat

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9Bman(151 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

I hope Girard's entire 7th/8th grade team comes to watch Ursuline score 70 points en route to another state championship.

Who is their right mind would let Ursuline play their games at a stadium? It is unfair promotion to let UHS play a game at a stadium within an Ursuline feeder district. Ursuline should never use a stadium for a home game at: Girard, Hubbard, Austintown, Campbell, etc.

YSU is the only place UHS/Mooney can't recruit junior high players.

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10valleyred(1103 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Here we go with the recruiting bs.... What the hell do you call open enrollment?

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11pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

I live in Girard so Im glad...and a an Ursuline grad.
I win twice

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12rangerhomey77(4 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

both mooney and ursuline are a couple of stiffs. i hope they lose a heartbreaker in the first round. or better yet get to the championship and choke on a big blow out !! WAY overrated !!

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13mikeymike(469 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Why all the hate toward two valley schools,regardless of what school plays,I wish them luck.We should back our local teams,I didn't go to either school but I'm glad for them.

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14mooneyhigh(7 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

6 time state champs

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15pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago


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16Woody(492 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Why not just play a double header at Stambaugh?

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17corky(5 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Good luck to both schools. Bring home the titles. As for mooney93, Mooney has moved up a division to D-III this year. Do you think they recruited more this tear than the past. Why not moved all the way up to D-I and really rake in the extra money. As for not playing a tough schedule, who plays a harder schedule in the area. Next year they are adding St. Ed's and Cincy Moeller. And what does this mean:" So they play SOME schools larger than they are (in enrollment only) during the regular season. "? Enrollment is how all schools are classified. Think before you post.

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18ringo(12 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Nice that the first playoff game in the new Girard Stadium will be played by ..............(drum roll).........Ursuline!

Ursuline, the school that consistently over the years has stolen Girard athletes for all of it's programs.

Sure is obvious that there are a couple of Ursuline grads in charge of things in Girard,

Guess money means more than community pride to those guys. If Girard grads were running that place you can be sure Ursuline would never be playing there.

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19steelers6(13 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Why not create a Catholic Division and let them beat up on each other. Year end and year out, Catholic schools are always at the top of the rankings.

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20steelers6(13 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Better yet create a Parochial division and let them play for a state title against other like minded schools. Whether its St. Xavier, Moeller, St. Eds, St. Ignatius, St. Vincent, Mooney, Ursuline, They all play in one division when it comes to the playoffs. They can keep their regular season schedules but come playoff time, they beat up on each other. Thats FAIR.

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211989GHSgradinFL(19 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Why all the hate because Mooney and Ursuline are not both playing their "home" playoff game at YSU? Both teams are deserving of hosting a playoff game, it's just that the OHSAA has all the Division 5 games on the same night as the Division 3 games. So what!!! Ursuline has to play at Girard!! BFD!! Girard students, parents and kids will come out and support the Irish on Friday night. That city loves high school football!! I expect to hear about a huge crowd up at Arrowhead!!

I attended Ursuline but graduated from Girard. I still love both schools and keep up with the valley sports from down here in Florida. Support the area kids and lets hope that they bring home a state title or more to the area, cuz God knows that area can use some kind of good thing to happen to it.

And as far as the scheduling, who gives a crap!! If there are same division schools that don't want to play Ursuline or Mooney, then what do you want them to do?? I'd still love to see both schools combine to make a Youngstown Central Catholic and kick the whole state's butt in every sport. But then you people would come on here and complain that they recruit kids from the suburbs of Y'town. Well, where do you expect the parochial grade school kids to go to school?

GO BLUE DEVILS!!! (went to McDonald in 8th grade too).

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22woolyd(579 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Im not going to hate on Mooney or Ursuline I wish them the best of luck. However, I want to know how many boys are enrolled at these schools. For example I saw the Mooney-Harding game and noticed they had damn near 80 players and only 3 boys in the band and that just doesnt correlate with the average school with the same enrollment. Im from Farrell Pa and our school has 94 boys in the high school and 32 boys on the football team and play Class A in football and Class AAA in basketball.(A is the lowest Pa class and enrollment ends at 194 Class AAA is second highest and maxes out at 500 students)

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231989GHSgradinFL(19 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

The state would never change to using the above mentioned separate parochial and public school playoffs. I don't see them changing to that. I agree that it would probably be nice, but then you're talking about keeping the public school teams and athletes away from playing those "football factories" as you talk about.

What college scout in their right mind is going to go to a public school playoff game versus a private school playoff game? I wouldn't want to see some kid that goes to a public school miss out on a chance to be seen at the next level, because his family can't afford the tuition of a private school.

My 20 year-old is playing college baseball and if he didn't play some of his high school games against those elite private schools, then he wouldn't have had that chance to show that there are kids in the public schools that are just as good of athletes as those that are in the private schools.

I agree that it's not fair, but it's been that way forever. The same happens in other sports too, not just football.

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241989GHSgradinFL(19 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

So what you are saying is that if a state doesn't have separate divisions for public and non-public schools then it's playoff system is an embarassment? New Jersey and Mississippi are the only states that have separate championships for those classifications of schools, so the other 48 states must be an embarassment.

Here are a couple of playoff systems in states that I know:
Michigan - if you win 6 out of 9 games, then you are in. At the end of the 9th week, they have 256 teams make the playoffs, some with 5 wins also to make the 256 number. Take those 256 teams, sort them by enrollment, and separate them into 8 divisions. Then it's all based on who you beat and their records as far as seeding in a region.

Florida - there is no conferences, only districts in 8 classes. The first and second place team in each district make the playoffs. There are only 8 (bottom 4 classes) or 16 (larger 4 classes) districts in each class. You may have a team win their district but be 4-5 or worse (last year a team 2-8 made the playoffs because they had only 4 teams in their district).

I'd say Ohio's system is fine. I never liked the computer ranking system but you can't leave it up to voters (see the BCS garbage every year in college football).

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251989GHSgradinFL(19 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Last year - 4 out of 6 were "God Squad"
2007 - 2 out of 6
2006 - 3 out of 6
2005 - 3 out of 6
2004 - 2 out of 6
2003 - 1 out of 6
2002 - 2 out of 6
2001 - 4 out of 6
2000 - 2 out of 6
1999 - 3 out of 6

Past 10 years - 26 out of 60 champions were private schools, that is 43%. I'd say it's pretty even.

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26DogPound(27 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

This will be an ongoing arugment for sometime now....

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271989GHSgradinFL(19 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

I agree. I'm dropping it because it will not change anytime soon.

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28steelerman09(111 comments)posted 6 years, 8 months ago

Who really cares where the teams play? All I know is I am cheering for ALL local teams. They could play in a vacant field, for all I care. As long as a local team represents well for the area, that's all I could care about. Good luck to ALL 17 local teams that made the playoffs.

On a side note, I think that the OHSAA has it out for the greater Youngstown area when it comes to the playoffs. Notice, if Crestview and Ursuline win, they meet. One will get knocked out.

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