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CBS’ Schieffer scores with Cheney, Powell interviews



Published: Tue, June 2, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

By David Bauder

NEW YORK — While fans of the Sunday morning political shows obsess about which host best represents the genre’s future, a man who’s proven an utter failure at setting retirement dates is making some noise.

CBS “Face the Nation” host Bob Schieffer’s bookend interviews with Dick Cheney and Colin Powell in May made news and offered riveting inside looks at old conflicts within the Bush administration and the current struggle for the future of the Republican Party.

Schieffer, 72, and former Vice President Cheney go way back. When Cheney was chief of staff for President Gerald Ford in the 1970s, Schieffer said he was the most open and accessible person he’s ever seen in the role, a contrast to his public image as vice president. With Cheney speaking out against President Barack Obama, Schieffer invited him on “Face the Nation.” It was accepted within 10 minutes.

After a lengthy discussion about Cheney’s views on fighting terrorism, the former vice president visibly startled Schieffer by calling Rush Limbaugh a better Republican than his former colleague Powell. In fact, Cheney considered Powell an ex-Republican for backing Obama in last year’s election.

Schieffer knew he’d struck gold.

Powell just as quickly accepted Schieffer’s invitation and appeared two weeks later. Schieffer, who asks methodical, get-the-facts questions in a Texas twang, brought up Cheney’s comments immediately. He replayed that segment of Cheney’s interview on a split screen that showed Powell’s impassive face watching the tape.

He may be soft-spoken and carry a military man’s demeanor, but Powell did some slicing and dicing of his own. He pointed out that Cheney not only opposed Obama on the closing of the Guantanamo Bay prison, he opposed George Bush. Powell said he decided whether or not he was a Republican — not Cheney or Limbaugh.

“It’s just a good story, really, the story of where the Republican Party is right now and where it is going and what does it want to be,” Schieffer said. The two men also conducted the debate over Guantanamo that didn’t come during the 2008 campaign, he said.

The interviews continued a good run for “Face the Nation,” which had its largest audience in five years when Obama appeared March 29. With an average of 2.55 million viewers a week, “Face the Nation” is right behind ABC’s “This Week” with George Stephanopoulos, at 2.72 million viewers. Both broadcasts are up 3 percent over last year, according to Nielsen Media Research.


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