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Man: Pavlik hit me at bar

Published: Tue, July 28, 2009 @ 12:08 a.m.


Kelly Pavlik

The champion’s trainer denies the allegations.

staff report

YOUNGSTOWN — A 45-year-old Boardman man says boxing champion Kelly Pavlik and Pavlik’s trainer assaulted him at a South Avenue bar.

Ronald Cappitte told police that he went into East Side Civics about 11 p.m. Saturday, walked up to Pavlik, 28, to say, “Hi,” and Pavlik punched him in the groin.

Cappitte reported the allegation to police Monday morning.

“It’s a flat-out lie,” said Jack Loew, Pavlik’s trainer. “I was there with my wife, my son, my future daughter-in-law. We were standing there talking.”

No charges have been filed.

Pavlik couldn’t be reached Monday.

Police noted a scratch on Cappitte’s forehead and bruises on his ribs and chest, the report said.

According to what Cappitte told police, he fell to the floor after being struck. He then got up and told Pavlik that if he hit him again, they would be fighting outside.

Cappitte told police that Pavlik then struck him in the forehead and he fell again. Pavlik and Loew, 50, then both jumped on Cappitte, punching him repeatedly in the body, the report said.

Loew said that Cappitte and Pavlik were talking and everything was fine, then Cappitte grabbed Pavlik around the neck like he was trying to put him in a headlock. At first, Loew thought the two were goofing off, he said.

When he realized they weren’t, he separated the two and walked with Pavlik away from Cappitte. Cappitte then got into a fight with two more groups of people, and Loew broke up the second fracas.

“Kelly didn’t hit anyone and neither did Jack Loew,” Loew said, adding that he has witnesses who will corroborate that.

Editor's note: This story was corrected on July 28, 2009 with the correct name of the Boardman man who reported the allegation to police.


1dbinnc(51 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago


He deserves to be beat up. Just not by Pavlik, we don't want him to hurt his hands on this guys face.

It's people like Mr. Cappitte that just don't deserve to be out in public. You know the law suit is coming and who ever represents Mr. Cappitte is a scum bag also.

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2madashell(14 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

taking one look at the "picture" mr cappitte posted is enough to tell u what an idiot he is. first of all if u know that kelly pavlik is in training, WHY would u grab him around the neck and risk injury to him ??? even if it started out as a joke or goofing off. i think mr cappitte got too aggressive and wanted to show that he has "muscles" . well if he got his ass kicked then he deserved it. now quit your crying and take it as "i got to fight kelly pavlik" . your 15 minutes of fame are over !

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3Bigluke40(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

training , since when do you train at a bar, from what i here around youngstown , he does a lot of bar hopping, pavlick that is, was a big fan of the youngstown champ because i am from there , but i guess we are from different parts , because the champs from youngstown dont let money ruin there career and their life.

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4captainlinger(660 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

maybe he asked him if he wanted a shot and misunderstood...

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5janeyblue(227 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Hey big luke ! Bars sell food also! DUH !!!

oh wait with your mentality all you do is drink ans probably pick fights!

Kelly and friends were most likely there to have a nice quiet dinner and thid BOZO waltzes in and looks to make himseslf look like a tough guy...too bad he got his arse kicked by someone else.
cappitte seems like he just wants to cash in...what a loser!

Kelly is the best thing to hit this valley in a long time,just too bad some a hole eejit is trying to ruin it for him!
A bit of jealousy
cappitte? your brain matches the size of your bollocks....TINY !

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6Bigluke40(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago


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7DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Typical Youngstown. This story sums up the whole area. The guy is the face of Youngstown to the world right now, and doing very well (which is in stark contradiction to other famous Youngstowners i.e. Monus, Trafficant, Dann, etc.) and he has to worry about physical altercations on the south side.

Kelly, take this as a sign. Move to the country, buy a big house and only associate with your true friends. You can entertain people at your place. You need to wipe the Youngstown off you, I hate to say it, but it's true.

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8daisy(4 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

This is hilarious! First off, if anyone was there, which I was...this is NOT what happened. What a silly man thinking ANYONE would believe this. Second off, oh my---kelly was at a bar! get over it! instead of spreading rumors or badmouthing him, learn WHY he was there. Trainer, Loew along with Family and Friends were celebrating the terrific turnout of his fights that night at the Saxon club. once again, something amazing in Youngstown and these idiots have to make a story. Ive met Mr cappitte...now lets talk about a drunk.
and again, Big Luke?!....youre as ridiculous as the rest---you people act like you know everything. lets grow up and leave it as he IS the CHAMP...and he has earned it. What have YOU or anyone else done in this town thats worth talking about?? NOTHING

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9butterfly789(6 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Give me a break people... how can you stick up and back a person who has constantly proved time and time again that these accusations are accurate...! I too have see Mr. Pavlik at the bars, and he does a little more then celebrate. What will it take for you all to see the truth? - someone to be hospitalized - oh wait that has already happened...and you still think he is a "champ" - shame on you all.

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10captainlinger(660 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

it gives spiking the "punch" a whole new meaning

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11daisy(4 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

haha...a break? why doesnt everyone try doing that. take a break from opening your mouths about every step this poor guy takes. god forbid he went to a bar, NO ONE does that in youngstown right? i truly hope karma comes around to all of you who wish bad on the ONE good thing we've all seen in a very long time.

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12captainlinger(660 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

cappitte, "i need some cham-PAIN".
pavlik, "i'll have te-kill-ya"
cappitte, "give me a shiner"
pavlik, "you're a whine enthusiast"

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13RFederer(116 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Anyone who looks up to a boxer and expects moral behavior is looking in the wrong place.

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14butterfly789(6 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Poor guy?? Oh - PLEASE!! What about the accident at his house last week - the 2 poor guys he injured on his off roading vehicle...... KARMA - that's karma for ya..! I hope what you say is true - what comes around goes around..!

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15Bigluke40(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

only he knows the truth

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16JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

“'Kelly didn’t hit anyone and neither did Jack Loew,' Loew said, adding that he has witnesses who will corroborate that."

Rickey Henderson approves of how Jack worded this.

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

The only good thing happening at the bars is wealth sharing and not on your behalf. This fellow is all about trying to get some of Pavlik's money. Of course he will want far more than Kelly's bar tab for the night.

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18AtownParent(565 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Why are people in the YO so quick to slam the ones who have successes? Kelly Pavlik could bring peace in the Middle East and you self-righteous a-holes would still slam him. He went to a bar, OMG he drinks, OMG he was drunk...SO WHAT! He's not your moral compass. And if he is, then you definitely have bigger issues then what Kelly Pavlik is doing around town.

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19BillyC(1 comment)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I host the Talkin Boxing With Billy C radio program, which airs on WANR AM 1570 in Youngstown EVERY day from 9:00 to 10:30 AM. To think that a guy would walk up to Kelly Pavlik and say "hi" and get beat up by the Middleweight Champion of the World AND his trainer is CRAZY. Why do people do this type of thing? America is the land of opportunity, but have we gone so bad as a country that the motto here is "Sue your way to the top"? Being in the boxing business for over 25 years, hearing this stuff does not shock me, but the grief that Kelly has rec'd from his "home town" of late is terrible. Don't be shocked if he packs his bags and moves away! Tune into the Talkin Boxing With Billy C Radio program on AM 1570 in Youngstown to hear my thoughts on this! Billy@TalkinBoxing.com

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20Ande0917(4 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I can't stand how everyone on here is like praising Kelly and Jack like can do no wrong nobody really know what really happened that night but i know for a fact that cappitee isnt doing this to get some of his money thats for sure. These are 2 guys thats have associated with each other for years for him to say hi to kelly isnt like he was a crazy fan trying to get an autograph People need to mind there business and let it all be.

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21eastsidecivics(2 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

To Mr Foxtrot..As far as your remark about the high end bars in Downtown... Pleeease!..... There have been many fights, robberies etc in the downtown district. (as anywhere in Youngstown)But it was not made public... It was not printed in the paper or even on the news. That does not make it BETTER down there..If you like down town bars (or for that matter, you may even own one ,,,,) thats great..... don't degrade the other bars, who are struggling to make a living (many are a mile or less from downtown) just so you can look at your downtown bars through rose colored glasses...A group of the South Ave bars have been close knit for over 8 years, to raise money for local charities.. Every year they donate a large sum of money to a chosen charity . Toys for Tots and Second Harvest Bank.......Can you believe such low end dives could care enough to try and help other people in the community.. Can you also believe at the last one we were very close to 500 people (from everywhere, suburbs too) Next time you sling trash at people, maybe you should think about what you're saying FIRST. . There are alot of GOOD people who frequent South Ave Bars we are not all bad... There is alot of good in some of us.. Alot of good people come from the South Side and do still support it!!!

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22daisy(4 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

ONCE again...HE injured 2 people off-roading? im sorry, but were you there? NO YOU WERE NOT!. again, what happened in that incident was not pavlik doing anything that anyone else was doing....having fun. people have minds of their own....but yes your right---kelly tied them down and made them ride. then he decided to injure them ON PURPOSE!...are you kidding me? grow up youngstown. this town is the first place to sit there and do nothing but complain that we have nothing good and no money---ONE person, or a few "southside" bars do good and people....narrow minded, stuck up people, HAVE to put them down. And as far as only "drunks" or bad people go to the south side bars..not true. maybe those guys would rather hang around true, down to earth people at those "dive bars" then sit with a bunch of prissy people.
oh ya...hahaha to your comment about jack loew and kelly thinking they can do no wrong. Do YOU have boxing shows to support all of the kids that want to go to the gym?? do YOU help out those kids and give them something to do other than being on the streets? Do YOU volunteer alot of your time for ANY charity or cause that asks? I DIDNT THINK SO! when you can remotely accomplish the things those two have done for youngstown, then talk.

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23daisy(4 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

sweetpea...i completely agree!

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24cord53(38 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

i am so glad i moved out of youngstown ohio. If anyone makes it big from there you get a bunch of jealous people coming out of the walls. geez

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25cord53(38 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

kelly come on down to cincy where you could be an average joe. you see the likes of chad johson and other bengal players in bars and know one messes with them. only in scum town.

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26butterfly789(6 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Yes.. eyewitness...
No - no one was tied down... but denied being there, driving the vehicle or having any part of it!! Accidents do happen - yes - but own up to your mistakes - is the only point I am making.... and again Karma!

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27eastsidecivics(2 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Mr Foxtrot , I for one did use my real name because I am not afraid to use it nor am I ashamed of it. You may think Downtown is the safest area, but unfortunately, I hope you carry a credit card and not so much cash, as you have stated you carry large amounts of cash on you.There is no safe area. at least when you are on the South Side you are aware of your surroundings and you watch out for your surroundings, since not much goes unreported in this area. Which is good. You need to know whats going on and not be oblivious to reality. In areas where they hush everything, everyone thinks its safe, is it not.. No where is safe from crime..Some people of the "lower class" can't afford a night out in the Downtown Clubs, unlike yourself. So because they don't have as much cash as yourself, they should not be denied a night out... I am not denying there is not any crime on the South Side, but I do think you should not judge people who are not as fortunate as yourself. The last time I was downtown I was bugged by a downtown homeless person for change.. Who are you to Judge people who frequent our bars. I have had Congressmen, Attorneys, Senators ,Judges, ESPN, HBO, Sports Illustrated and I have a member from England who is a member of our Club and visits 2-3 times per year. You can't judge a book by its cover...But clearly you do.. Nice talking to you ..

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28THEVOICE(22 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Seems like the East Side Civics is a troublesome joint. Eastside you spoke about the last charity event that you had nearly 500 people at but I was with a group that had a guy get hit in the face with a beer bottle at your bar by some moron twice his size. So much for a safe charity event. If you want trouble, you hang on the south side, thats all there is to it.

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29Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

If you want to be in the company of drunks go to a bar . Drunks are known for less than perfect behavior . Many of them can't reason when they are sober .

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30ElPolloLoco(30 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Hey VOICE! Totally agreed....... On another note - you want a local hero or superstar to follow....... Follow LBJ - That is a true "hometown hero" - not some who has had bar fight after bar fight! But like the old saying goes. "You have to get knocked down before you realize what you lost"

The Crazy Chicken

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31ads(109 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

First off who cares if Kelly goes to bars and drinks. What because he is a professional boxer he can't be human too? And for the 2 bar owners going back and forth, crime is every where. but I have to say, I feel safer downtown than on South Ave. Nothing but drug addicts and scum looking for a free ride. I was held up by 12 year olds 15yrs ago right across the street from the Civics, another bar at that time but that area has just gotten worse. We can thank those who feel work is only for the weathly!

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32aeparish(669 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Who even cares?

I don't understand why people are so interested in what's going on in Kelly Pavlik's personal life. Just as long as people have something to talk about, right? He's a human being just like the rest of us. From time to time, we screw up, but that's our business -- just like this is his & Big Ron's.

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33ElPolloLoco(30 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

So Mr. ADS......... I see your last comment above - are you saying that only drug addicts and scum who are looking for a free ride "hang" on South Ave - So there is no other people that enjoy any refreshments there or have money that they have earned........legally?!?!?! Quick question, doesn't Kelly hang at the Civics and shoot darts there? Does he fall under YOUR catagory of Drug addicts and scum looking for a free ride?

The Crazy Chicken

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34captainlinger(660 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

i have a suggestion. if cappitte's "junk" was at risk in the vicinity of pavlik (as whodis reports), perhaps one should adopt the practice of always wearing a jock strap/cup when mingling with a boxer, even in social situations.

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35whodis(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

captain, you wear a jockstrap when you go out, that has got to be one of the most retarted statements in the history of mankind, please just tell me you were joking, you sound serious, if you are, put down the bottle and pick up my cack

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36louie(6 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

to whodis-first off i was there that night,were u?ronnie never"popped" kelly. he came out of no where and started screaming at kelly and everyone was laughing thinking he was messing around..well ronnie kept screaming and went for kellys throat like he was ganna put him in a head lock or something..jack loew jumped in the middle and pulled kelly aside and 5 or 6 guys got ronnie back the other way..then ronnie started pavliks way again and some guys stopped him and ronnie started a fight with them.kelly nor jack hit or even touched ronnie..ronnie was drunk and acted like an a--.. people should leave pavlik alone and let him have a life...and there is nothing wrong with the civics he plays dart there and has for a while.

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37captainlinger(660 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

whodis, actually i find jockstraps quite comfortable. i have several monogrammed ones. plus, they can do double-duty as holsters. the only challenge is trying to use a urinal, you're relegated to a stall.

of course i was joking.

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38steelerman09(111 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Kelly Pavlik- World Champion-hangs out on the Eastside of Youngstown. Those two things don't seem to go together. If you want to be a champ, act like a champ. I have seen him out on many occassions and more than a few times, he wasn't able to even see straight. Go to your lush house in Canfield and stay out of the bars, especially with your "homies" on the Eastside!

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39aeparish(669 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

East Side Civics isn't on the East Side.

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40ElPolloLoco(30 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That word is going to desbribe his career here if this keeps happening! Steelerman - I would second that comment of seeing Kelly and him seeing 5 or 6 of me...... at Once! Second of all........ LOUIE - make sure you use chap stick next time you start smooching some butt cheeks! DANG MAN -


GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!! O.......H.......

The Crazy Chicken

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41steelerman09(111 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I didn't say that the Eastside Civics was on the Eastside. I said he hangs out on the Eastside and to stay out of the bars, especially with his homies on the Eastside. There are bars on the Eastside that he has been in, because I was there when he was. Read my comments more carefully.

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42THEVOICE(22 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Being able to read is not one of Youngstowns strong points!

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43aeparish(669 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Lol, it's not that I couldn't read. When the article is about an incident that takes place at the East Side Civics, do you blame me for assuming?

Yeah, yeah, yeah -- I know it isn't right to assume. Either way, I was just pointing it out in case someone didn't know. The name can be misleading, that's all.

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44bossman(1 comment)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

doesn't the eastside civics have camera's.... been there before seem to remember them everywhere

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45THEVOICE(22 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I think we should go choke the crazy chicken when the GoGo opens back up!!

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46Boobiemuggz(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Yo Crazy Chicken - I...........O..........

Voice - I hope you dont mean ElPolloloco - I agree with him - OPEN THE GOGO!!!! I thought there was camera's in the Civics as well - they must be "turned off" when the hay makers come out!

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47Rocco(99 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I have never heard such a mass of jealous humanity. Geeez - So what if Kelly gets liquored. It is no ones business but his. I can afford to go to any upscale bar I want, but I enjoy the Civics. I've had a lot of fun in there. I've met a lot of nice folks in there. They are trying to make a life too and run a business that employs people. You folks just don't have anything better to do with your life. It is sad. Get your own life and leave Kelly alone.

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48baboo(43 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

If a drunk is going to be an a-hole at the bar and try to roll up on a boxer, then he deserves to take one in the package. What the hell was he thinking?

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49ElPolloRetrasado(212 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

And Micheal Jackson didn't molest kids either!! Just cause someone is in the spot light doesn't mean they can do no wrong. The Civics is a sh*thole, burn it down and let the clientel go with it!!!!

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50aeparish(669 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Pollo, there are A LOT of bars in Youngstown that are way worse off than the Civics.

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51ElPolloRetrasado(212 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Name a bar other than one on South Ave that has more problems.... Aeparish, I don't think you can!

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52ElPolloRetrasado(212 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Foxtrot, they can't! You have more chance of getting robbed on the south side than you do in any other place around! And everyone on here knows that, the statistics don't lie! Nor do thepolice blotters!

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53saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

If this Cappitte guy is the same man(almost definitely is, Ron Cappitte is not the most common name) that used to coach my little league baseball team at Uptown, then yes, he was most likely drunk. He always smelled like alcohol even when he coached a team of kids(9-14). I'm not saying Kelley is innocent either, just that Mr. Cappitte does like to down a few from hour to hour.

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54XBROWNSX(35 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Funny, with everyone carrying camera-phones these days, you'd think someone in those bars would have a video clip of what Pavlik is being accused of.

Ironically, NOTHING ever turns up, imagine that. This loser os looking simply for a pay day, and when you think about it, Pavlik could truly hurt an average "Joe" spiked with beer muscles and reeking of Budweiser fumes.


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55TeresaB(82 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I can't believe the comments here. While I was not there (haven't been in the civics for years), if Ronnie was drunk his perception of what happened is probably way off. I really don't know kelly other than to say hi, but he seems like a very sweet natured young man. From what I've read, it doesn't sound like Kelly was drunk (although he's over 21 so he's free to drink, get real people) and it sounds like Ronnie was definitely drunk. Having said that, he is not someone who would do something to be "sue happy". He may believe Kelly hit him. The point is, he has obviously dropped the charges, so perhaps he had some sober time to think it over. As for the East Side Civics being a dive bar full of losers, that is simply not true. Lori runs a nice club and they have a lot of good people as members, so you can take your snooty attitude and shove it. BTW, the only reason I don't go there, is because I don't drink. If I did, I would be there, rather than downtown pretending I have more money that I really do. See, the people there are working class men & women and if your car get's a flat in the parking lot, someone will help you and/or give you a ride home. How do you think that would play in a downtown bar?... TRIPLE AAA

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56TeresaB(82 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

BTW, when did Kelly Pavik become responsible for Youngstown's image. He's a boxer, a good boxer, nothing more, nothing less. Leave the kid alone and let him box. If you believe Youngstown sucks, perhaps YOU should do something to change that, instead of slamming a young man who is doing something positive for himself.

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57Hub(2 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

This is a case of stupidity. This guy is a fool for messing with the Middlewieght Champ and Kelly needs to stop hanging in these places and drinking until he is done with his career. A few more years and hell I'll buy him all the booze he can drink. As long as you are an active boxer you should stop the hanging out and drinking. Kelly I'm a big fan but I don't want to see you waste your career and your future for a few drinks and a couple laughs. Wait a while and then you will not have as many goofballs trying to get in your wallet. A fan always Gary

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58NewtSach(20 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Wow, I am amazed at the fact that people still want to go to the south side considering the only good thing on the south side is nothing! Never been to this civics joint but unless its a diamond in the rough its probably a sh*thole like everything else there!

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59TB(1167 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

the charges were dropped. check the other article

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60whodis(3 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

louie, I wasnt there, was going off of someone who was, conflicting stories, there may not be anything wrong with the civics but with Kellys fame and fortune, it is not the best place for him to be on a regular basis, Im sure even you could agree with that one.

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61sick_boy_1227(7 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I just love how this random guy is talking about "fighting outside" with the middle weight champion of the world. sounds like someone has an ego problem

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62NewtSach(20 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Sounds like TeresaB is full of TeresaBS!! She obviously has ties to the south side or she wouldn't stick up for such a crap hole of an area!!

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63ElPolloLoco(30 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

So I heard that midgets were coming into town - maybe we can get them to come to Civics! WHo is game on that shizzy!

anyone, anyone........ FRY

The Crazy Chicken

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64DEATHCIRCLE(8 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

big response - do you think i would have this many comments if i did something like that? everyone cares weather you say kelly is awesome and he didn't do it, or you think kelly did it. either way everyone cares. big responsibilties come with being someone in this word PERIOD. your face is on sh*tter walls and bar stools.

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65NewtSach(20 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

I love midgets, they come right up to my Newt, Sach alicious!

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66Rocco(99 comments)posted 6 years, 10 months ago

Get a life and leave the poor guy alone.

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67DEATHCIRCLE(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

just so i am clear. we are not talking about practice correct?

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68NewtSach(20 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I got a great divide, right around my bottom area, deep in the crack just like the Civics!

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692Bfrank(2 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago


F@CK EVeryone! This whole place is a Sh*thole! I love the thrilling arguement about downtown vs. southside being safer or classier. WE LIVE IN THE YO! This place can pass for hell. It all sucks ass. Middle class vs. Low Class. Nobody here has any money. NO ONE! Even the elite ultrarich in this area suck hind tit to 90% of the nation. But we live here or visit here for one reason.

OUR FAMILIES: Crazy as they are they make us who we are. Our families are not always our immediate relations, they are our long time friends who we meet at bars on the southside, downtown hell, anywhere. We sometimes get food. We sometimes get drunk. We sometimes get out of control and that's just life in this Godforsaken place.

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70robynl11(2 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

what??? Kelly is human??? R U kidding??
Yes people he drinks....oooohhhh....what a bad person that makes him...how dare he drink....know what?? I'll bet he eats, sleeps, sh*ts and wipes his ass like the rest of us too.....let's hope nobody ever criticizes the guy for that! Anytime you want to hang with my family Kelly, you're more than welcome to, to you haters.....jealousy gets you nowhere...I sure do bet though if it were you inthe bar having a few drinks after your hard day at work and the situation occured to you it would have had a completely different outcome huh?

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71shadowman(67 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

Are we done here yet? Here is an interesting thought. What will Mr. Pavlik's bar in Struthers be like?

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72TB(1167 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

"No matter what any of you say, there is no disputing the fact that downtown is cleaner, safer, and more desirable than the south or east sides."

This isn't saying much at all.

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73sweetiepie930(1 comment)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

I love how all of the people trashing the civics have probably never set a foot in there. That's because I doubt they can even get in. Its a private club where people from lots of different backgrounds go to relax and have a good time. Its not "all low lives and scum" as reported by the people on here who think they know everything and in reality have no idea of the truth. If you don't like the south side then don't go down there. Go downtown and hang out with all of the frat boys and crooked businessmen. One of my friends was hit in the head with a beer bottle in 'safe' downtown. It can happen ANYWHERE. And anyone who would say anything bad at all about Lori has clearly never met her because she is one of the best people you will ever meet and would do anything in the world to help a person out. She is the reason we even go to the civics. And for being such a 'piece of trash' the civics seems to be good enough for HBO, ESPN and all of the other TV stations to come and film down there. So to all of you haters out there-mind your own business. If you've never been to the civics keep your opinions of it to yourselves because they are uninformed and ridiculous.

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74DEATHCIRCLE(8 comments)posted 6 years, 9 months ago

eastside civics and private club. hahahahahahahahahaha. it should say this

eastside civics. the bar for section 8

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