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Are pickets picking on Henry?



Published: Sun, July 12, 2009 @ 12:01 a.m.

By DON SHILLING

VINDICATOR BUSINESS EDITOR

There are two ways to view grocer Henry Nemenz — depending on which side of the picket line you’re on.

Some — such as longtime shopper Tom Ziccardi and Sharon Mayor Bob Lucas — see Nemenz as a hometown operator who cares for his staff, his customers and his community. Both men have given Nemenz their support as Nemenz faces informational picketing that is trying to turn away his customers.

Ziccardi crosses the picket line at Nemenz’s Save-A-Lot store in Poland when he wants to buy groceries.

The 87-year-old Poland resident has been shopping with Nemenz and his late father for more than 50 years and said he won’t let the pickets stop him. He and the grocer know each other by name, and they joked around in the parking lot as Ziccardi entered the store recently.

“Everyone has a right to do what they want in this country. Why should they block him?” Ziccardi asked.

Lucas, a union carpenter in addition to being mayor, came out in support of Nemenz last year when the United Food and Commercial Workers posted pickets at the grocer’s new store in Sharon for about four weeks.

Lucas said Nemenz not only opened the only grocery store in the city, but he also has been active in community events and making charitable contributions.

“He’s been so good to the community that the Shenango Valley Chamber of Commerce honored him as ‘Man of the Year’ last year,” Lucas said.

On the opposite side of Ziccardi and Lucas is Local 880 of the UFCW, which has conducted informational picketing at Nemenz stores in Poland and Struthers for the past two years. It also has picketed a Nemenz store in Hubbard, which is now closed, and the Sharon store.

The first picketing went up in Hubbard when the union said that Nemenz wronged workers of the former Patton’s Sparkle. Nemenz would not hire the former union workers even though he opened a store at the same location, the union said.

Thomas Robertson, Local 880 president, did not want to be interviewed but said in an e-mail, “We believe the picketing is truthfully advising the public that those stores are not union stores and that Henry Nemenz is anti-union.”

In a letter to the Sharon mayor last year, a union official said Nemenz is the biggest nonunion grocer in his operating area and that he is not paying wages and benefits that are as good as those of union grocers.

“We don’t think his behavior is morally right,” wrote Mark Rock, administrative assistant to Robertson.

The struggle between Nemenz and the union is played out daily at stores in Poland and Struthers.

Shortly after the stores open, anywhere from eight to 12 pickets show up at the edge of the parking lots and remain until late in the afternoon. They aren’t workers who have issues with the store but are paid by the union to picket.

They ask people to shop elsewhere because Nemenz stores are not unionized.

The drama between the union and Nemenz is rare, said John Budd, professor of industrial relations at the University of Minnesota. Informational pickets normally don’t last this long, he said.

“The union must think it has a good chance of winning,” he said.

The union probably is hoping that Nemenz will agree to hold what’s known as a card-check election, he said. In this process, the union doesn’t need to hold an election. It can represent a store if the majority of employees sign cards.

Lucas, the Sharon mayor, said he’s bothered by the process of informational picketing because it can force a store to close if shoppers stay away. He said the union should have an election and try to organize store workers instead.

It’s not that simple, Budd said.

The professor said informational pickets can be posted for an indefinite period. But once the picketing says the union is trying to organize a store, federal labor law requires the union to petition the National Labor Relations Board for an election within 30 days.

Unions try to be careful about calling for elections because costs can escalate if employers try to delay the proceedings with legal battles, Budd said.

As the UFCW continues to battle Nemenz on the streets outside his stores, the grocer wonders why he is facing pickets and Wal-Mart isn’t.

After all, Nemenz noted, Wal-Mart has become the nation’s biggest grocer because its Supercenters have a full line of groceries. It has Supercenters in Austintown and Hermitage, Pa., and is opening one in Liberty.

Robertson said the UFCW international union is targeting Wal-Mart but not with picketing. The union has a Web site to promote a national public awareness campaign called Wake Up Wal-Mart.

“Picketing is not the best way to educate the public regarding the world’s largest employer. It is the best way to educate the public regarding a local employer,” Robertson wrote.

When told of Robertson’s comment, Budd said he would revise it slightly: “Local picketing is not the best way to pressure the world’s largest employer, but it can be an effective way of pressuring a local employer.”

Taking on Wal-Mart requires a national strategy, but the union can take on a local grocer one store at a time, he said.

“A local union president, with limited resources, has to pick his battles carefully,” he said.

Organizing Wal-Mart in a particular area would be difficult, he said. If a union petitioned for an election at a store, Wal-Mart could delay the process and drive up the cost by arguing that the election should be held statewide or at all stores in an operating district, he said.

Plus, Wal-Mart is known for taking large steps to prevent unions, he said. Butchers at a Wal-Mart store in Texas voted to organize, and the chain then restructured all its meat departments nationwide so butchers were no longer needed.

The UFCW does have a national strategy for Wal-Mart, but it doesn’t involve pickets, Budd said. The union is relying on a public-relations campaign and working to pass the proposed Employee Free Choice Act, which would allow work sites to organize with card checks and not elections, he said.

Robertson, the union president, said Cleveland-based Local 880 is not singling out Nemenz. The union also is picketing at Marc’s stores in Broadview Heights, Berea and Ravenna.

“Other stores will be picketed as time and resources permit,” he wrote.

Nemenz defended the way he treats his employees. He said he offers pay and benefits that are “very comparable” to union stores and don’t include deductions for union dues.

He said he and his son, Henry Jr., are fair to their 1,200 employees because they are concerned about them.

“I’m not staying in business for me. We have 1,200 people counting on us. If I wanted, I could have taken the money and run a long time ago,” he said.

Nemenz operates three IGA stores and eight Save-A-Lot locations, while his son owns nine Save-A-Lot stores.

Nemenz figures that closing the Hubbard store cost him $1 million — $500,000 in store renovations and $500,000 in lost revenues. He blames the picketing for a 40-percent drop in sales at the store.

Nemenz said only two or three former Patton’s workers applied for the jobs, and he assumed that most Patton’s workers had found other jobs.

The union said nine or 10 workers applied and that more would have applied, but they were told they would not be hired. Only one worker was hired, and that person soon lost the job, the union said.

Nemenz denied trying to keep out the Patton’s workers and said he couldn’t recall what happened to that one worker.

In Poland, Nemenz said he is battling to keep his store open because he spent $1 million three years ago to renovate the building, which had been a Phar-Mor and then a Sparkle.

Sales are off 10 percent this year, but Nemenz said he isn’t sure if that’s from the picketing, the opening of the new Rulli Bros. store in Boardman or some other factor.

The store has been losing money, but he added that he can break even at the reduced volumes if he succeeds in refinancing the loan taken out to remodel the store. He also is considering some marketing changes.

In Struthers, sales have continued to be strong despite the picketing, he said. The community has always supported the store, which opened in 1980, he said.

“The picketing there may have increased our business,” he said.

The union also picketed Nemenz in the 1990s. Informational pickets were posted outside his former store on Boardman-Poland Road in Boardman for five years.

Shortly after the picketing stopped, however, he closed that store because Giant Eagle opened a store behind him and offered him a buyout.

Robertson said the current round of picketing will continue in Struthers and Poland until union officials think the public doesn’t need any more reminders that the stores are nonunion. Those stores were selected because they were on well-traveled roads, but he added that the union plans to picket other Nemenz locations in the future.

Nemenz said he will continue to operate his stores the same way he has for 52 years.

“I didn’t stay nonunion by mistreating people,” he said.

shilling@vindy.com


Comments

1Ytownnative(1053 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Yea because they are idiots. Unions would rather see people unemployed then non union. This is why the valley is dead and will continue to be that way for a long time.

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2NachoCheese(163 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The good Mr. Nemenz should take his money and run ... run from the cancerous union mentality that is and has been killing the Mahoning Valley for decades now. What we need is some national attention to focus on the union thug approach going on here - trying to bully a family business into bowing to the unions demands or being run out of business by the unions. America needs to pay attention - here is precisely why card check (aka employee free choice according to democrats - aka forced unionization to anyone with a brain) must be derailed and killed for good.

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3my2cents(11 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Mr Nemenz has a good thing going. I encourage all valley residents to shop at his stores. He truly cares about the "normal" person and not the wealthy customer. Go Henry

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4starr3648(1 comment)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I am so glad we have a store in Sharon. I only wish more people living in Sharon would give their business to Mr. Nemenz instead of Hermitage. After all shouldn't we support our town. I shop there all the time and I will continue to shop there as long as the store remains in Sharon. Yes there are a few things you can not purchase at this store so you have to go elsewhere but then no one buys everything at one store anyways. Come on people, support Mr, Nemenz and our town, give Mr. Nemenz your buisness. The employees are nice and friendly and you can't beat the prices.

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5moringlory(14 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Come on now , hasn't anyone noticed what has happened with the unions and jobs in this county? Just look at good old GM or Chrysler and see what unions have managed to do there. Unions haven't protected American jobs yet, where you need to picket it down in Washington, or yur congressman, senator , state represenatives offices, Your weakly organized now , not like back in your glory days. Dont get me wrong unions have done alot for this country and also to this country. This man could just as easy close up shop and move on to a different area, hes been good for the community for many years, Where are past employees at a this time to speak up, If he pays a decent wage with benefits what is he doing so wrong. I work for Walmart for many many years, and I would like to say if we are worried about unions try buying anything made in America, non union shops may be a part of this in some way but coporate greed is largely to blame. Go picket where it counts, yes Walmart is turning a large profit and yes they are largely to blame but again goverment greedy officals collecting large payback and deals are mainly to blame close the doors to these imports put terrifgs on merchandise coming in to our country and leaving other countrys, start reducing the amount of imports aloud , encourage American business to come back, buy AMERICAN people, it takes some doing but its possible . Hoow about all the imports coming from Vietnam, how long ago were we at war with them ? Cheap labor cheap parts , junk flashy merchandise , I bet they think stupid Americans when they ship this junk to us ! Walmart will survive and they will come around to our way of thinking, , this guy is small potatoes compared to what the problem is,

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6pj(80 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

It is unfortunate; that the Union organizers are brash & incompentent in their actions. Hold the fort Henry. You are one fine person, the others ?

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7valleyred(1099 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

What business owner in their right mind would want to set up shop in the Mahoning Valley when they have to deal with the corrupt unions of our area. They think that they are inferior to their non-union competition, but they are not.

Another example of unions killing business in America.

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8mvalleygirl(1 comment)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The unions these days are nothing but scum eating oxygen thieves. All they want are a portion of your hard earned money for nothing on your end. they are like a legal mafia.Henry has been a blessing to the Sharon area for years we had no local grocery store, here you had to go to Hermitage,Farrell or into Ohio, now wear was the union then .Why did they have no interest until he set up camp in Sharon,just like in Hubbard too.I thought we lived in a free country to if you want to be in a union and be screwed that's your business if you don't that's your business.Why is this man being singled out by them ? he is not the only one around that is nonunion .Henry stand your ground .I will keep shopping at your stores union or not.

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9Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Wow. I strongly agree with every comment posted above. And in a strong union town that had the nation's first teachers and nursing strikes.

No doubt that unions led to the fall of Y-town, the unionized auto manufacturers, etc. Watch out though...the slippery Democratic-Socialist Party wants to destroy non-union companies like Fed Ex by "card check."

Corruption is the twin brother of Socialism.

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10UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Henry Nemetz is a good and honorable business man. He runs an honest business that supports his employees. The UFCW is wrong to picket this man's stores.

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11VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Lets look at this rationally.

Who has done more for the valley?

Local 880....WalMart....or Nemenz?

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12VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The answer is......
none of the above and all of the above.

Unions have helped keep employers in tune with workers' rights, but they have also led to job eliminations.

WalMart has created jobs here in the valley, but have forced many other local stores to close resulting in job losses.

Nemenz has developed a niche in local shopping for area residents and provides employment opportunities.

I say let Henry Nemenz be, let the area have local shops and let employees decide where they want to work.

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13gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Mr. Nemenz is a fine man. We ONLY shop at his store in Poland. We refuse to shop "UNION" stores; they are all over-priced.
Poland SAVE a LOT, employees greet us by name, remember what we usually buy and help us out whenever we need it. We can call ahead if it's an emergency and they have everything ready for someone to pick up.
They ask about our families and take a personal interest in our well-being.
This is a "local family owned business" and should be supported by the community.
God Bless Mr. Nemenz and his staff.

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14ohiosexyman(2 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

i used to belong to ufcw 880 in the late 80's and early 90's and they had me setup with the company to make me lose my job and the union sailed me down the river big time and they didn't care and ever since i have shopped at non union jobs i even went to wal mart in pa and salem ohio. u can see higher prices at the union stores compared to the no union. i remember when henry had a store in the austintown plaza in the late 80's and he closed it up. i think it should be against the law to have union picketers outside of a non union store. ur the best henry

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15HundredReasons(31 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Thu unions here are outdated and unnecessary. Henry is a good man and has done a lot for the community. Leave him alone and go picket Walmart, who is single-handedly killing jobs in the Valley... union or otherwise.

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16Ytownnative(1053 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

can we picket the picketers?

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17redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Eighteen comments and not one bad comment about Nemenz. That should tell you something. Intelligent people appreciate a store owner that treats employees and customers right.

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18TB(1167 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I too feel bad for Henry Nemenz and his son who are making millions of dollars apparently.

I wonder if you can support a family on wages from his stores.

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19jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

This should be a call to action. This is an opportunity to show a powerful, corrupt union exactly what we think of them. We need to start doing ALL of our shopping at Nemenz stores, and do so especially when the picketers are there. We have a say in this! Nemenz employees have a say in this! Let OUR voices be heard, loud and clear. The union is letting us know what they think, now its time to let them know what we think!

Whether your pro-union or not, support people who have chosen their employment situation. Choice is what America is all about.

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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

They have already forced him to close one store in Hubbard . ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ! Mess with my affordable food suppy and union or no union you will get my ire . There is more to life than the high prices at Giant Eagle .

Let the pickets know how you feel and come on in ! The food is fine and affordable . If you want to pay more go to Giant Eagle !

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21auz2(7 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I too was in 880 while in college. This is probably the most corrupt union ever. Even though we had a "contract" my employer did not pay our health care premiums because he said he could not afford it. When I called the union, they let it slide saying he could not afford it! Yet, I continually paid union dues. The union states Nemenz does not pay what others make in union stores, do they have proof of this? If so, are the union workers still making more after paying union dues to a union that does absolutely NOTHING for them? Also, these people who are being PAID to picket, would they picket on principle alone if they had to do if for FREE? I agree with above poster that we should picket the picketers. Next Saturday everyone should show up in front of Nemenz a store at 10 AM with a sign in support of Mr. Nemenz!

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22aztek519(29 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The unions need to get a life. I live in a right-to-work state and work in a non-union school district. I am way better off where I am that if I was working in one of your union school districts. I have found non-union products to be of better quality (Nissan, Toyota, Honda...) and cheaper (Nemenz...when I used to live in the Valley). These picketers need to get a life and move on. Personally, they never phased me. I just ignored them and went about my business. Look at Giant Eagle...Its unionized and is the most expensive grocery store in the area. They are just afraid that more people are going to recognize this and start shopping elsewhere. It has nothing to do with wages and benefits.

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23gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

OKAY,
How many of you are actually willing to show next Saturday, at ANY of Mr. Nemenz's stores?
I AM. Last winter when it was white-out, cold weather conditions, these IDIOTS, were not out there picketing. I know this, because I was putting the rock-salt in the parking lot.
Also, the employees are well-taken care of in many ways, or they would NOT be working for Mr. Nemenz.

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24ismellmyhand(26 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

dumb unions. You would think Youngstown would tire of destroying itself after this many years. Meanwhile the world goes on without you.

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25Ytownnative(1053 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I would show if someone would call Struthers Police and find out what is legal and what is illegal.

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26hubbardguy(32 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

There was, and still is, another non-union supermarket in Hubbard that was NEVER picketed. And, no, it isn't a Wal Mart, it is a locally-owned supermarket just like Nemenz. It is very obvious that the UFCW has a personal vendetta against Mr. Nemenez. In Hubbard the picketers were more than informational, they overstepped these bounds and intimidated shoppers by calling them names, shouting at them and even "mooning" them. I hope this winter the pickets, who are paid union goons, not ex-employees, freeze their ***** off if they have any.

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27becky77(1 comment)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

My name is Rebecca Kennedy and I am a former deli worker at Patton's IGA. I worked there for 3 years right until it closed. Mr. Nemenz hired me at his Hubbard store when it opened.

I am currently at the Nemenz IGA (poland location) I work there part time and attend YSU full time. I am very grateful to have a good job that accommodates my school schedule. I feel that the picketers would not be around if they were not getting paid to stand there and hold signs.

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28DaveA(5 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I just wonder what has United Food and Commercial Workers done for their workers other then setting back and getting rich off the workers who has to pay dues. I lived in the Youngstown area for most of my life until I moved to Floida in 1988. Most of our Supermarkets are UNION free and I have found no problem with that. One can see what Unions have done for the Auto makers. (great job guys). I come to visit a friend in Hubbard twice a year and sorry to see that Nemenz IGA in Hubbard had closed. I plan to SHOP in any Nemenz Supermarket, I can find while on my next visit this Sept.

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29jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Nemenz probably didn't pay off the mafia like they wanted him to, so they are using the pickets to get back at him. Old Youngstown at its finest.

I live in Georgia, and I will try to come up and picket the picketers with you next week. And I'll buy all the staples I can from Nemenz and ship them back home. I see these goons as the one's who destroyed my hometown, and now I am well-off enough to fight back. Call it hate, call it what you want, but its time the rest of our voices were heard!

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30SSfastboys(1 comment)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I drive past the poland store every day. Just about every other morning I stop at the marathon gas station, and watch the picketers park at Giant Eagle, open their trunks, remone their picket signs, and walk across 224 at a snails pace. At their rate of speed, Henry should be glad they are not employed by him!!

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31joebag09(261 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I believe unions have/had their place. BUT, I believe Mr. Nemenz has every right to operate his stores as he sees fit, PERIOD! I don't hear or read many complaints from employees. My daughter worked for one of the stores in Boardman and was treated very fairly.

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32gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

OKAY, This is JUST my view:
We can all go to whatever of Mr. Nemenz's stores we choose, next Saturday. [Poland Save A Lot would probably be best though]
We can ALL "shop to we drop", bring our many buggies and bags out. We can be patient and kind, spending as much money as can afford. Stock UP!
Most importantly: do it Very peacefully, IGNORE the picketers.
Quietly, converse among ourselves, drink our coffee [which is already free], no foul mouthing or trash talking aimed at "THEM".
Alot of people do their shopping on a Saturday, anyway. There is NOT a LAW against buying groceries. It would show community support.
Please do NOT bring weapons of any kind. Right, STAN?

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33Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I have nothing against CC but do convey the issues involved . I don't believe the pickets would present any threat to even warrant a fly swatter . I may stop by myself to photo the pickets and do some shopping .

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34hubbardguy(32 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey Hope4theValley, At least you could learn to spell Enron correctly.

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35jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Does anyone know if you need a permit to picket? I would like to picket the picketers. But as stated above, we have to do everything by the book. We need to keep it safe and legal.

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36valleypoboy(133 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Let's look at the Vindy's reporting on this issue as well. FINALLY, they have chosed to take note and run an article - who's afraid of the big-bad wolf?

The union "email" (note that they did not grant an interview to explain their position) said the "big problem" is that Mr. Nemenz is anti-union and offers sub-standard wages and benefits.

Where is the fact finding. Rather than a he said- union said, the reporter needed to get the facts. What are the wage and benefit differences? Are there any? Do they maybe even make the union stores look bad? We sure don't know after this article.

If being "anti-union" is a reason to be picketed, I would expect pickets outside many homes and businesses. Where is it written that Mr. Nemenz (or anybody else) HAS TO be pro-union. Its logic like that we do not need. If you have no real issues, invent one.

Other than that, I'll second most of the well-reasoned comments above.

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37NachoCheese(163 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

joebag09 is right on here! 50 years ago, there were reasons for unions - I know, my grandfather worked in a steel mill and I have had first hand discussions with him about how it WAS, and the unions helped to fix the problems BACK THEN ... the problem is, instead of realizing their place in the business world, they have and continue to completely overstep any sense of reasonable bounds. This story is a great example of that - paid union goons (not even employees of the business they are picketing) harass customers and employees. If there were a reason and the employees had a history of jumping up and down screaming how bad it was to work there, then maybe someone would give five seconds of sympathy to the cause - but this clearly is not the case in this story - this is all about the march to socialism brought on by the recent elections and this too must be stopped.

Remember, history has proven that when you swing the pendulum too far one direction, eventually there is no choice but for it to come roaring back even farther the other direction ... those who think they are trying to "fix" something from the past several years are in fact doing nothing more than screwing it up worse the other way - they even have won a few battles, but in the end WILL lose the war... Call your congress rep - tell them NO to forced unionism - NO card check - YES to free and democratic elections IF THEY ARE INITIATED BY EMPLOYEES AFFECTED.

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38borylie(805 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I'm so proud of the posters on this issue. Just about everyone has made a logical and heartfelt post. This is such an easy decision to be on the right side of this controversy. Even Cambridge couldn't offer his 1/2 cents worth and Cambridge has a wrong opinion on everything. I'll be shopping Sat. morn at Nemenz/Sharon,Pa. Once again, thank you all for posting and I hope Mr. Nemenz reads these and knows we're here to help.

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39gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: NEMENZ COPORATE OFFICE
PHONE# 330-757-8940. 70 McKinley Way, Poland, OH 44514.

**Save A Lot [store] 3131 Center Rd. [RTE224],
Poland, OH 44514.
PH# 330-259-0442.
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AGAIN, we do NOT need a permit to SHOP.
Suggestion: put a sign in your car or truck window, showing SUPPORT.
If you have any of the Save A Lot canvas bags, bring those. Cut a plastic Save A Lot bag and put it over your tee shirt.
Park where the IDIOTS can cleary see you enter and leave the stores.
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STAN is right: they will not bother us. But, if any of us have so much as a pocket-knife, they can say WE threatened THEM.
STAN, I hope you can stop at The Store to take some PIX.
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I will try to get more info today and contact Mr. Nemenz. Any of you can call the first PH# listed to leave a message for him.
He's usually at one of his many stores, actually working, so that's the fastest way to reach him.
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Good Luck to all of us that are showing SUPPORT.

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40gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

PS: Maybe "hope4thevalley" will show up to sell us all some ENRON and MADOFF?
[as if].

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41jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Let's make something positive out of this. I originally said I was going to ship a bunch of stuff I buy on Saturday back to my home in Georgia. But I think there are probably some social organizations in they Valley that could use some staples more than I could. So, if you are so inclined, and have the resources to do it, how about we buy a little extra on Saturday and donate it to a soup kitchen, homeless shelter, battered women's shelter, a church, etc. That way, we can support Mr. Nemenz and his employees, and help the community at the same time. Just a thought, but I think that is what I am going to do. I am excited and honored to be joining you all on Saturday! I'll be the one in the rental car with a sign parked as close to the picketers as legally possible.

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42gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: spoke to Corporate around 8:45 A.M. today.
Explained what we are planning to do. A message will be given to Mr. Nemenz. I will check back in with them later.
REMEMBER: This is a "normal" Saturday shopping trip. This is NOT a confrontation with the picketers.
~~~@jethead11, GREAT idea. Alot of people need staples, non-perishables, soap, school supplies and all.
I'll find out if it's OKAY with Mr. Nemenz for US to put a BIG box inside or outside the POLAND store.
It's supposed to be 81 degrees Saturday. Should be a nice day for this. Are you coming to the POLAND store on RTE #224?
Will keep you ALL posted.

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43gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: Just spoke to Corporate again. Everything is good. She'll get back to me ASAP as far as putting boxes for donations to the LOCAL food pantry.

It should NOT be a problem.
STAN, Hope you can make it to take PIX.
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WE CAN DO THIS. Ask all your friends to shop on Saturday as well, at either location.

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44Jon(27 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I worked for Henry many years ago and he treated me and his other employees VERY well. I think the above posts are great - it's nice to see readers stand up for someone who has done so much for so many communities. This particular union is an absolute joke - it's obvious that they would rather see a local business close it's doors instead of being nonunion.

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45jasdyer(3 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

What's changed over the years is that the things that unions once had to fight for (workplace safety, regulation of child labor, overtime pay, etc.) have been long since incorporated into the law. (OSHA, Child Labor Law, Federal Wage and Hour Act, etc.) Unions won the war but kept looking for battles. Some of the battles they chose contributed directly to the demise of manufacturing jobs in the US. Many communities that collapsed in the 1970's when Youngstown did have re-emerged with new and vital industries. Youngstown, alas, hasn't got a prayer as long as it continues to foster a hostile environment for employers. Why go to Youngstown and put up with this kind of foolishness? Skills?? Don't kid yourself. The people who were displaced during the great decline of the rust belt are in their 60's and 70's now. This area has produced an entire generation of angry, unskilled unemployables. Fix your schools, give up your union legacy and maybe there'll be something for your children.

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46VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

This is great!!!

I am very proud of the support we are showing.

Hope to see the crowd at Poland!!!

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47gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: OKAY people. WE have the GREEN LIGHT on this "Show of Support".
Including donating extra-items to LOCAL food pantry. Everything I've posted applies to BOTH locations: Center Road [RTE #224] in Poland and IGA on Youngstown-Poland Road.

Now it is OUR job to get the word out and show up.
Remember what OUR purpose is: To support Mr. Nemenz and his employees that depend on a weekly paycheck.

Thanks to one and all. Any ????'s leave me a post on THIS site.~~~~

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48gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI:
Spoke to Don Shilling [Vindy Business Editor], that covered the "story" on yesterday's front page. Mr. Shilling was very nice.
His E-mail is: <shilling@vindi.com>, in case any of you want to contact him with your opinion.
Phone#: 330-747-1471 EXT#1381.

Next on my list is locally-owned WMFJ-CH 21, some radio stations and Poland Town Crier.

IF any of you have TIME to put out "the WORD", or make local public contacts, PLEASE do.
Thanks~~~~

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49JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

A piece about people picketing picketers could be the story of the year for the good people at the Vindy. I dare those bastar*s that give out the Pulitzer Prize to try to ignore this story as they have other pointless, mistake-laden stories of the past.

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50gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

JeffL,

THX! Have already contacted Inter-national writers that are PUBLISHED. They will BACK us up on this.

Stop by on Saturday, if you have time.
Also, please ask your friends, family and neighbors to do the same.

We are planning to ALL spend as MUCH $$ as we can afford at Mr. Nemenz's stores. Instead of doing our shopping several times a week; we'll stock-up for MONTHS.

The people that are flying in [at their OWN expense] will spend $$$ and donate to the local food pantry.
~~~Still have alot of CALLS to make.
Have a good day.

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51theworldisevil(3 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I go out of my way to shop at Nemenz Struthers BECAUSE of the union antisocial behaviour.

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52gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Thanks again to ALL of YOU.
Am exhausted, so taking a break tonight.

FYI: Reached Mayor Bob Lucas's office [Sharon, PA] around 2:45 P.M. today. HE put a stop to this "GARBAGE" in Sharon, PA.

PLEASE just do WHATEVER you can, to assist in this endeavor.~~~

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53jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Gypsygirl720, you are incredible. Looks like you had a busy day. I plan to be at the Poland location at 10:00am, assuming there are no issues flying in. I'll make sure people know who I am. I would like to hit another location if possible as well.

I e-mailed a friend at CNN and she said they would love to do the story. But, she thinks there are no Youngstown stations that are CNN affiliates. The closest are KDKA and WTAE in Pittsburgh and WOIO and WEWS in Cleveland. Probably impossible to get them to cover this. I am going to try. This is the kind of story the country needs to see about Youngstown.

My father still lives in Boardman and I think he can get the word out as well.

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54gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Jethead11, Auz2, Y-townNative and many others: YOU came up with this idea.
~~~Being a "GYPSY", I am blessed with contacts, connections and the knowledge to make things happen. [legally].

~~~FYI: received an E-mail from Mr. Todd Franko, Editor of The Vindy.
He is suggesting making this "HenryFest I"; with a tent, music, cookout and NEWS coverage.
~~~Mr. Franko needs a time frame, etc., as well as permission from Mr. Nemenz.
~~~WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK???????
Your comments and suggestions would be appreciated ASAP.

~~~Thank you.

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55Jon(27 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

This is incredible - this could be a great story for our valley. Make it happen!

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56MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

As someone who watched the UFCW Local 880 put the Hubbard IGA out of business, I fully support any grass roots effort to oppose their bullying tactics. I hope a peaceful counter protest makes them understand that their 'informational' pickets are not wanted.

http://talesfromtherustbelt.blogspot....

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57redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

You people just have so much hate!!!!

You are all missing the point on what "hope4thevalley" is trying to do. She wants to get us upset enough so that maybe she can unload her ENRON and MADOFF funds. Guess she has had a hard time trying to recoup her investment.

He/she needs the money so he/she can go out and buy three more companies ( 2 union, 1 non union). Remember all that crap.in the "Buy American" thread.

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58jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I love the idea of "Henryfest". Can the Vindicator put the word out as well? Is there a weekend event website for the Valley that we can submit this to? I can't wait to meet everyone on Saturday.

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59redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Don't be too harsh on the Vindy as to whether they will cover this on Saturday. Remember, if it wasn't for their story in the first place nothing would be taking place this Saturday.

Vindy Editor Todd Franko featured this story in his comment section on the 13th.

When he wrote his letter introducing himself awhile back I replied that he needs to instill into his reporters to report the news in a unbiased as possible way and let the readers draw their own opinions. This could be a real test for the Vindy. Maybe it can shake the liberal bias tag it has had for years.

See ya all Saturday

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60gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: PEOPLE,

Let us ALL calm down.
#1: I owe The Vindy Editor an apology for using his name in my post. [I should NOT have done that].
#2: Have spoken to Mr. Nemenz many times today.
#3: He will provide FREE hot-dogs and soda/pop on Saturday, 7/18/2009.
#4: There may or may not be LIVE music.
#5: This is at the POLAND location on RTE#224.
#6: Please remember to be PATIENT with the other Saturday regular shoppers.
#7: This is a day of SUPPORT. Not a day of confrontation.
#8: Please add your suggestions and comments to this site.

~~~Thanks, Gotta go. Have a good day.
~~~Best to you all and do whatever you can!

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61JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

gypsy,

My issue is not with you. I saw an opportunity to note that writers for your town's newspaper were hacks and I took it. I don't live in the Y-town area any longer so I can't make it and also have I no friends. Because I wish you luck in your endeavor a few tips: no hyphen in "international," if your argument is strong and valid there should be no need for excessive caps. Remember, confident writing is competent writing.

Seriously, best of luck. Back to work for me!

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62gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

JeffLebowski,

Thank you for the constructive advice. You are correct and I agree.
We are doing the best we can to support Mr. Nemenz and he appreciates everyone's input.

Have a wonderfilled Woodstock day, wherever you may be.

~~~Best to you, Jeff.

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63Lifes2Short(3877 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Mr. Nemenz and Save-a-lot are wonderful. They gave me a job which I was really down and out. Mr. Nemenz treats his employees with the upmost respect and even shows up at the stores, not to have meetings and such, but to say Hi and asked if everything is alright. I moved on from Save-a-lot but I have to say, it was a very nice feeling working there and working for a good man (which nowadays is hard to find).
Thank you Mr. Nemenz

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64Jake(112 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Another example of unions being about labor versus labor, not labor versus management. Join our gang, or we'll make your job go away.

That kind of stupidity is why "the valley" has gone down the tubes.

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65redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Don't be at all surprised if the union pickets conveniently fail to show up on Saturday and then try to say that they got the last laugh. The turnout on Saturday will tell the tale!

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66gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

@redvert, You have made several excellent points.

~~~FYI: To the best of my knowledge, The Vindy and Poland Town Crier will cover this event sometime on Saturday.

WMFJ-Channel 21 will send a news crew out, if someone calls from the "event" on Saturday.
[I do not use a cell phone.]
Newsline phone# 330-744-8821 [Maggie].

Will keep you posted as the day goes on.
Mr. Nemenz is very greatfull and pleasantly surprised by this active show of support.

Thank you one and all for your conrtibutions to this "just cause".

~~~later, gypsy

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67gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: Update on "HenryFest 1", Saturday, 18 July 2009, at Poland Save a Lot, RTE #224.

There will be a tent, tables and chairs. A local radio station will be there.

Looking forward to meeting you all.
I'll probably be cooking on the grille, dressed in Harley-Davidson gear.

[Please excuse any spelling errors or punctuation mistakes]

~~~Thanks,
gypsygirl

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68ytown9999(55 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

First off, I'd like to say that I don't really think that I have shopped at Nemenz's very often, but I will be giving him my business now!

Second, for anyone going to picket the picketers - I would really suggest you don't put support signs in your car if you plan on leaving it unattended, lest you find it keyed when you come back. Just a word of caution.

If I can make it, I will be there saturday to take photos. It would be so awesome if this turns into something that gets more than just local media attention.

I don't think unions are entirely useless anymore, but I think legally what they can and cannot do needs to be regulated much more.

This kind of behavior is only giving themselves a black eye and making them look like idiots.

They picked the wrong "nice guy" to mess with!!!

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69ytown9999(55 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Oh, and Gypsy, did you call Tim Ryan or any other Reps? Might not hurt to put them on the spot and see who they support. Could get interesting.

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70JME(801 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I'm in.

Redvert, LOL on your post that brought up the "buy American, hate, and hope4thevalley" thread.

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71Jon(27 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Gypsy-
Do you know Henry personally - just wondering why you are doing all of this.... I'm 100% for it, I think it's great, & I'll try my best to be there, I was just wondering.

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72gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hi Guyz and Galz,

I'm not worried about our cars/trucks getting keyed.
RTE #224 is a well-patroled [sp?] State Highway.
Mr. Nemenz's parking lot is private property.

Rep Charlie Wilson's office is very aware of the situation. No, I have not contacted "Timmy Ryan" or "Bobby Hagan". I do not believe in taking advantage of personal relationships.

I did not grow up in the Y-town area, but was blessed to meet Mr. Nemenz when I was a child.
Whenever I would be in Ohio, [from whatever state or country], I made it a point to stop in and say, "Hello, Mr. Nemenz".

He still wants me to call him Henry, but that is not how I was raised. So, yes I do know him personally.

The reason I am doing this: Mr. Nemenz has been unfairly targeted. One of our Ohio homes is in Poland now. My favorite activity is to FOOD shop. I can spend four to five hours at Poland location.

Not sure if I mentioned on a prior post: broke my foot on 02/06/2009. Called Poland Store and they had everything ready for someone to pick up for me.

[My foot is still broken, but I am doing well and plan to be on the grille].

This is not like Kent State [4 Dead in Ohio], Selma, Alabama and marches on D.C..

This is Local and we need to do it.
Anyone that has time, please make calls.

~~~Thank you ALL.
~~~gypsygirl

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73JME(801 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Ryan or Hagan probably wouldn't show. Too many unions have them in their back pockets.

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74gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

FYI: Did manage to make some calls. I did not ask anyone to show. I simply made them aware.
"Timmy" is in DC. Not sure where "Bobby" is, but will find out.
~~~Gotta go actually consult for a living to buy on Saturday.

~~~Best.

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75harleydog(217 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Why doesn't someone invite Barak. He is dead set on destroying this country just like the unions.

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76JME(801 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Great job Gypsygirl

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77gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

@harleydog,

Good idea, but to the best of my limited knowledge:
"Mr. President Barrack Obama", is attempting to get "our troops", out of wars and deal with the many situations he has inherited.
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Girlz and Guyz,

If any of you know Mr. Kelly Pavlik, "The Ghost",
or his trainer, Mr. Jack Loew, perhaps one of you could ask them to stop in this Saturday.

Please contact any local people that you believe may support this cause.
[Mayors, Council {sp?} Women/Men, Coaches, Sports-players, Veterans, Teachers, Nurses, Fire People, Paramedics, Private Business Owners,
Blue and Pink collar workers.]

Thank you.
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FYI: All New Website! < www.save-a-lot.com >.
Please sign up if you have time.
Coupons are mailed via USPS to your address.

My PC has been "in and out". I will post more to this site, as info becomes available.

Hope to hear more input from you all today.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.

Remember: There is no "I" in TEAM.
This is a team effort.

Weather for Saturday looks decent, 69 degrees, mosty cloudy, chance showers and storms.

We will NOT melt, like "The Wicked Witch" from "OZ".

~~~Later. many thanks.
~~~gypsy

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78gg1932(2 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Mr. Nemenz has been a positive infuence in all the communities he serves. He sells food at reasonable prices, contributes to all the community charitable functions, and is generally a very nice person. Does anyone besides me question why anyone would want to join the UFCW? Your dues would be used to pay pickets at some store where they are not wanted and would do you no good at all.

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79gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

@gg1932,

I believe we all question "why", but sometimes that is the agreement in order to work.
Have a wonderfilled day.
~~~best gypsy

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80redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The comment above from @gg1932 tells a lot. Do not condemn all union workers. The sad truth is that they must "tow the line" in order to keep a job.

I personally know of people that register as democrats in this area because they do not want anyone to find out that they vote for the candidate instead of lockstep democrat. How would anyone find out! This is the valley! Says something for the union mentality doesn't it? Almost 40 years and they haven't learned yet.

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81harleydog(217 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Sorry, Mr. President Barak Obama is writing checks that he can't cash so the American taxpayer is going to be taxed beyond belief. If you think he is doing great things for this country you are wrong. It is all going to come crashing down. So all the democrats that thought he was our savior better thing twice before voting for him again or Tim or Charlie. They all have the same mentality. Tax and spend and tax and tax and tax.

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82jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Well, I hate to say it, but I don't think I am going to be able to make it on Saturday. I just can't make my work schedule and the flights work out, and I really am sick about it. You have no idea how badly I want to be there. However, I don't want anyone to think I was part of this and want to just remain anonymous. My father, who lives in Boardman, will show up in my place. I told him to look for Gypsygirl and the rest of you and give you all my e-mail address and phone number. If you get a chance, please call me on Saturday and let me know how everything is going. I will make sure I can take the call. Also, if you have pictures or videos, put them on Flickr or You Tube so I can see the event. I will try to make a You Tube video of myself to show my support so you can meet me. I would give my name on this blog, but I know of at least three other people in Youngstown with my same name (I used to work with one - even had the same middle initial). And I don't want the Local 880 brain trust to harrass the wrong person. I want them to see me as well as hear my name.

My father is a fan of Mr. Nemenz, and when I told him about the event, he was excited to participate. He rightly thinks that Mr. Nemenz has done much more for the Valley than Local 880 has ever done. He has a very good connection at one of the radio stations in Youngstown, and he is going to try to get me on the air during the event. If any of you are also interested in getting on the air, tell him when you see him. He may be able to get you on as well. He will let you know who he his.

I will make it back to Youngstown as soon as I can, and I assure you, my first stop will be Nemenz. And hopefully I can meet some of you in person. We've really started something good here, and I am so glad to be a part of it, even though I can only be there in spirit. But hopefully I'll talk to a few of you over the phone on Saturday.

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83gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

@harleydog: I did not bring up the current President. You did. I have never stated my political party or personal beliefs. Ytown9999 asked if I had contacted ANY of the valley reps. I made calls to whomever I could reach; regardless of their party affliation. Please excuse my sarcasm in my earlier reply aimed at you.
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jethead11,
You will be with us, in the Woodstock spirit. Your father will easily be able to find me.
I'll be "grilling" the hotdogs and doing whatever else, Mr. Nemenz wants me to.
I am 5'8-105lbs, Marine style, silver hair and usually dressed in "Biker" clothing and know how to kick butt.
My family in GA, NY, FL, PA, OH, TX and CA promised to post bail in case I need it.
I won't though, our family attornies all know what I am doing and why. Plus, I have "permission" from all of my Godfathers!

Anyway, jethead11, I look forward to meeting your father. Whenever you get "home" from GA, we'll get together. Our GA home is in Kingsland [not far from The Naval Base].

We all have to work and airlines are not what they used to be, as far as scheduling. You have given us all input and we appreciate it.

Have a great night and THANKS.
~~~Best, The GypsyGirl

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84gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

To "The Team",

Really could use a few extra hands near the grill, tomorrow. Any of you that have a few minutes to spare; your assistance would be appreciated.

International writers and authors have asked if "We", are going to give the pickets free food?

As redvert mentioned: "The turn out on Saturday will tell the tale!".

~~~more later.
gypsy

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85Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Who is out to destroy Henry Nemenz ?

UFCW is laden with hierarchy that lives very well at the expense of the workers . About seventy percent of union funds go to sustain them . Very good benefits for the hierarchy on the backs of those who they purport to serve.

"The UFCW in recent years has been rocked by numerous corruption scandals. In 1998 Joseph Talirico, the former number two man in the UFCW National office, the Secretary-Treasurer, pleaded guilty to embezzling over $925,000 from UFCW Local 1 in New York. $10,000 of the money paid for Talirico’s hair transplant. Besides the $925,000 that was stolen, Talirico and four family members received over $1 million in Union salaries and expense accounts during the year 1996 alone.

Rather than denounce Talirico’s crimes committed against the workers, UFCW President Douglas Dority and former President William Wynn praised Talirico in letters sent to U. S. District Court Judge Frederick Scullin, Jr. during the sentencing stage of Talarico’s trial. "In my mind," Dority wrote to the Judge, "his integrity is unquestioned!" "

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86lizzie4444(9 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Since when in the Mahoning Valley has "union" become a dirty word? I am a professional but proud my father and grandfather were union. Go back to your history books and see why unions in the 1930's were formed in the first place: unacceptable working conditions.

Mr. Nemenz should look at his bank account and think of every person that punches in and/or walks through his doors who is struggling in this economy.

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87Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Well lizzie4444, Henry is all about affordable groceries and his workers are well paid and happy . So you think that paying union dues and higher prices for groceries would be helpful ?

I am glad that Henry has the resources to buy in bulk to keep the prices down .

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88gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Stan,

Agree on your response to lizzie4444.
Mr. Nemenz does take excellent care of his
"co-workers", as well as his "customers".

lizzie4444: "union" is NOT a dirty word in the MV.
I believe it just depends on what particular "union" anyone is referring to.
I too, came from a "union" family, [not sure if you are old enough to remember this], during the 1950's, 1960's, etc., the strikers did NOT get paid to picket. They were actual workers employed at "The Mills", or wherever.

Back "in the day", people helped each other out, in whatever way they could. There were no food pantries or hand-outs.

Thank you for your comment, lizzie4444.
Have a wonderfilled Woodstock weekend.

~~~Best, gypsy

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89Viewpoint(89 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Did it really take an hour and four minutes to compose those three snipets of wisdom?

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90gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Great idea about the "sand"...people and children could have played in it. Wish someone had come up with "6beagles" idea sooner.

He/she also made a valid point: the picketers are just doing their paid jobs. Everyone needs food, shelter, clothing and a paycheck.

We all have a right to our "opinions". We do live in The USA.

FYI: employees from several union stores, do shop at Mr. Nemenz's locations. The same holds true in reverse.

Have a great Woodstock Daze.
See you later, GATORS.

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91RFederer(116 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles said
Just one more comment about your little love fest with Henry tomorrow. You gotta know the UFCW will have someone out there videotaping the whole thing to protect their picketers from any harm, and would hand over any evidence of the same to the Poland Village Police Dept. for prosecution. So advise everyone to be peaceful.

Isn't that funny, the union picketers videotaping to protect their members from harm! So the peaceful "friends, employees, supporters, and acquaintances of Henry Nemenz are a physical threat to the union pickets. Bwaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa.

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92Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

PICTURE LINKS ARE BELOW ARTICLE

Make no mistake about it, this all about Giant Eagle wanting it all . The pickets base is at the Giant Eagle right across the street from Save A Lot at the east side of Poland Ohio on 224. The pickets would not answer any questions about their cause . The man with the hat and shorts was a union boss from UFCW Local 880 headquartered in Cleveland Ohio . He is camera shy more so than the pickets . I guess that all of them realize that what they are doing isn't right . They are not
there to unionize Save A Lot but their goal is to run them out of business . One of the pictures linked below shows them heckling customers of Giant Eagles competition . Save A Lot is the store that favors the people with low prices and quality food .

When I approached Henry Nemenz he talked freely unlike the pickets or their union boss . There was a tent set up in the store's lot with plenty of food for the customers and supporters who showed .

I went inside to look around and took a picture of the display in the store comparing Save A Lot's prices to Giant Eagle . What struck me about the store was the fact that it was neat and clean . Nice displays with a good variety of low priced food . I would have to rate the store as a ten ! My bill for chicken drumsticks 7.67 lbs.,provolone cheese 1.59 lbs,braunschweiger 1 lb. and a half gallon of whole milk was $10.65 . Very reasonable. Checkout was a breeze and the workers there
looked happy .The people in the area are fortunate to have Henry there working hard to get quality food available to them at low prices. With the Save A Lot driven out they would be at the mercy of whatever Giant Eagle wanted to charge . I would venture a guess that at that time good sales by
Giant Eagle would cease . Are the pickets all about corporate greed by Giant Eagle ?

PICKETS AT SAVE A LOT SIGN
http://i27.tinypic.com/donhx5.jpg

PICKETS ACROSS FROM GIANT EAGLE SIGN
http://i28.tinypic.com/2142yhg.jpg

PRICE COMPARISON DISPLAY
http://i31.tinypic.com/34q1naa.jpg

FOOD TENT
http://i32.tinypic.com/2hfv3w3.jpg

PICKETS WAVING AT TRAFFIC
http://i32.tinypic.com/296hf2p.jpg

PICKETS HECKLING CUSTOMERS
http://i30.tinypic.com/35lsy85.jpg

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93Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

"You gotta know the UFCW will have someone out there videotaping the whole thing to protect their picketers from any harm"

It is far too late for them . Their minds are already wasted . I couldn't get them to talk .

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94gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Thank you all for your "peaceful support".
I enjoyed my day at Mr. Nemenz's Poland store.
Met new people; saw old friends; business associates, etc.

Some of you identified yourselves by "user-name",
some by their actual names.

Only one male person had the audacity to verbally attack me personally [when I was alone].
I was informed that I was responsible for the downfall of GM????
That is not a direct quote, just one of the comments, the male person made to me.

He is entitled to his opinon. We all are.

Also, Thanks to the coverage by all the local printed press and WKBN-AM [not sure of their call letters].

jethead11: your father was a pleasure to meet and it was nice to speak to you today.

Stan: sorry we didn't actually find each other.
Best to you and your family.

A special appreciation to The Gentleman "grilling" and his four lovely, well-raised daughters, as well as their friends; that came to lend a hand.

Also: Thank you, "A"...he is four years old, "Manned" the soda/pop cooler and was a true gentleman in all respects. His father and older sister were there, so do not even for one NY minute, think this child was not under adult supervision.

I apologize if I have not Thanked anyone else in this post.
Later, Gators!

~~~best

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95redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles, Great report! I noticed that the picket was not overly thrilled to show her face and you strategically took a random shot or two from a 100 yards away. Ya buddy, that was some great film work.

Did you happen to find out if these pickets are union members and get full union scale. I am sure the union would not pay less than that, it would make them look pathetic. How about finding that out for us and report back. I am sure you would do that. With the full benefits package it is probably a pretty good gig.

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96Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

MY LINK IS CLICKABLE
http://i32.tinypic.com/2hfv3w3.jpg

Things went extremely well . I tried to talk to the picketers but I guess you had them take an oath of silence . I take it that you were the guy with the hat and the shorts . You were even more camera shy than the picketers .

I am not shy about exposing some facts about UFCW .

THE LEGACY OF UFCW

http://www.unionfacts.com

Historical Low Points

UFCW leaders have faced allegations of extorting businesses and misusing their members' dues for lavish lifestyles:

In late 2005, the former assistant to the president of UFCW International, Joseph DiFlumera, was sentenced for mail fraud, racketeering, and extorting more than $1.5 million from a grocery chain.

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97Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I have no problem in viewing your upload . You seem to have a problem in making it clickable . Can you grasp this thought ? You are creating ill will toward Giant Eagle and costing them customers . The public isn't getting excited about your aim to make Giant Eagle the only food source in town . I know that your aren't one of the top dogs in UFCW so your antics in keeping them in luxury at the expense of those paying union dues is amusing .

ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ?
"In late 2005, the former assistant to the president of UFCW International, Joseph DiFlumera, was sentenced for mail fraud, racketeering, and extorting more than $1.5 million from a grocery chain."

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98Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

In my circle we have choices and Giant Eagle will find that UFCW antics on their behalf will indeed have an impact . We see nothing positive from UFCW activities against the Save A Lot and IGA stores for Giant Eagle .

Seventy percent of UFCW dues go to feeding the huge salaries of the hierarchy . So it looks like the leaders of the UFCW get the peanut brittle and the rest get the shells .

High prices at Giant Eagle are affecting the bottom line . Corporate profits there have priority over wages . High prices must be maintained to keep them solvent .Lower price grocery stores are eroding their business. Can the consumer be convinced that paying a bigger share of their paycheck for food is beneficial to them ? As the economy convulses further will the union put the squeeze on Giant Eagle for more money ?

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99Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

I am going to operate a database for anything pertaining to UFCW . My information will be solid and researched . Enough is enough . I should have gotten involved when UFCW was terrorizing Henry's Hubbard Store . I see "Mafia Style Tactics" being used against a hard working grocer in The Valley . This has to stop and the people should be informed . Don't you agree ?

If you read my post above you would have seen my purchase of chicken drumsticks at 59 cents a pound . I lumped the total purchase together so now you see the price per pound. They were fresh and tasty . Henry has Giant Eagle prices beat by a very large percentage .

Just for your information I am not anti-union but I am against the tactics used by UFCW . The many union friends of mine agree that what is happening to Henry is wrong .

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100Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

Since you can't refute anything that I have posted that would mean that even you agree it is factual .

BTW, the next step would be to see what UFCW 880 is driving at the local hall . Is GM Lordstown being supported ? The next story should be:
WHAT IS UFCW DOING FOR THE VALLEY besides siphoning off money in union dues .

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101MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Here's what I know about the UFCW Local 880. They put the Hubbard IGA out of business with their pickets. The people who worked there were Hubbard residents who were satisfied with their jobs. They saw sales at the store fall off as the pickets kept marching. The UFCW put people out of work because they dislike Henry Nemenz. How can they they possibly say they support workers and represent workers when they worked so hard to put the Hubbard IGA employees in the unemployment line?

http://talesfromtherustbelt.blogspot....

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102Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

"You can spin it any way you like, but in the end, the public will see the truth."

I'm glad you see it that way . Soon we will see how many GM cars are at UFCW 880 offices . What does UFCW 880 do for The Valley besides siphon money out of The Valley? Sice the Hubbard store closed the people see it different with the store gone . UFCW is all about taking money out of the area to support their highly overpaid hierarchy . Times are a lot tighter today financially and I'm sure the people will want to sacrifice with higher food prices to keep the status quo at UFCW .

IS THE UFCW TRULY AFTER THE BEST INTEREST OF THE WORKERS ?

http://www.unionfacts.com

Striking Out For Its Members

In 2004, UFCW leaders led 60,000 members in a disastrous strike against southern California grocery chains. UFCW members collectively lost 4.58 million days of work, with terrible consequences for workers. The environmental publication High Country News described it as "a brutal strike that cost millions in lost wages, and resulted in broken marriages, lost homes and cars, and even suicides." Even then, the publication noted, when the strike was settled, "some workers have had their wages and benefits slashed."

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103Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

EXPOSING CORRUPT ACTIONS BY UFCW 880

http://library.findlaw.com/1997/Aug/4...

E. A & D Supermarkets, Inc. v. United Food and Commercial Workers, Local Union 880

In 1988, UFCW Local 880 initiated an aggressive campaign against various independent non-union retail grocery stores in northeast Ohio. The campaign included picketing and extensive use of mass media. Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause. That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores. The non-unionized stores brought an action against the union and its officers alleging various violations of the Sherman Act, the Ohio Monopolies Statute, and a claim for tortious interference with business relationships under Ohio law. No. C88-3551 (N.D. Ohio). Although the unionized stores were alleged co-conspirators, they were not joined in the action.

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104jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles: It is interesting the angle and the time (2:30pm) of your video. I realize you want to make the event look sparcely attended for your propaghanda. But I hope if you report this event to the union bosses in Cleveland that you do so honestly. I think they really need to know about the support a non-union employer got on this blog, the press they received (that the union never countered), the wide community support, and the large crowd that was there. A radio station even did a remote in the parking lot.

The significant thing about this is it happened in the Mahoning Valley, one of the safest union areas in the country. It happened in "union country" were ALL of our families (including mine) have a union background. To my knowledge, I have never seen a community anywhere slap a union in the face like this. And it was planned in only 6 days! If you don't have support from the Valley, do you think the rest of the country is going to give you the time of day?

I don't want to give the union any help, but my advice is that maybe they can actually give their members something for their money. Maybe that would help. Then maybe more people would join. Take, take, take usually doesn't get you far in the long run. Just an observation.

I wish I could have been up there, and I will stop by next time I am in town. Maybe I'll see you on "the line".

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105Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

TIME TO LOOK INTO THE RICO ACT ?

Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause. That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores.

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106jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Good information, Stan. And I am sure the UFCW's response is the usual "no comment". Maybe their members should push for answers. After all, it is their money.

I had a friend in high school work at Giant Eagle. Now I realize this was a long time ago in the late 80's, but he was required to join the union, pay a $50 or $100 "initiation fee", then 10% of his paycheck each week. All the while making MINIMUM WAGE!!!! No other benefits, health care, time off, pension, etc were given.

Here is my rule, if the job pays minimum wage, you DON'T NEED TO JOIN A UNION. The employer can't pay you less! Make a donation to a worthwhile cause and work for a non-union company. Your money will be better spent.

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107MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

There's no spin. The result of the informational picket was the closing of a successful business that employed Hubbard residents, put tax revenue in Hubbard's coffers and helped support area charities. Now the plaza has an empty store that no one wants to re-open as a grocery store. The UFCW has done nothing good for the city of Hubbard.

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108epicfail(217 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"There's no spin. The result of the informational picket was the closing of a successful business that employed Hubbard residents, put tax revenue in Hubbard's coffers and helped support area charities. Now the plaza has an empty store that no one wants to re-open as a grocery store. The UFCW has done nothing good for the city of Hubbard."

Well said MikePrelee. If anyone want to see what these picketers will do to your community look no further than the empty hubbard store. They came into my town, closed down my grocery store, got a bunch of local people fired and called it a victory. Come again?

I for one hope the union loses. I hope they lose big. Because, if they can't win here, where can they win?

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109Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The UFCW wants to keep the people uninformed . They are shy about what is going on behind the scenes for good reason .

TIME TO LOOK INTO THE RICO ACT ?

Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause. That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores.

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110Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

"Stan, your information is a little outdated. That was 20 years ago."

This past information was good enough to launch an investigation into UFCW Local 880 activities . Have a fine day.

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111MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

On my way home tonight, I'll drive past an empty store in Hubbard that used to provide good jobs. If I want a gallon of milk I'll have to drive across town to get it instead of just stopping at the now closed IGA.

I guess vacant stores and inconvenience is how the UFCW Local 880 defines success.

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112Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I found you amusing in that picture also 6beagles .

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113NachoCheese(163 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

bagelhead spewed:

Employees shall have the right to self-organization ...of their own choosing...

Two very key phrases that don't apply here - the employees don't seem to be choosing self-organization now do they? It would seem that the thugs form the union are not happy with the employees exercising their rights, their own choosing to NOT play ball with the union thugs.

Herein is the problem of the 21st century - Obviously Henry's store is nothing at all like the poor working conditions or low wages were in my grandpa's steel mill circa 1940s/1950s etc. Some people don't know when they have a good thing - they get greedy, like UFCW has, and then people exercise their RIGHT TO CHOOSE to NOT play ball with these unions.

Support Henry, and anyone else who offers quality products at fair prices and decent jobs to decent people who are actually willing to WORK to EARN their living.

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114MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"Of their own choosing" seems to be a real issue with UFCW Local 880. They walked the picket lines for almost a year in Hubbard "informing" people the store was non-union but they never could get the workers there to join up. Even when it came out at a Hubbard city council meeting that Henry Nemenz was thinking about closing his store because of lost sales, the UFCW made sure the pickets kept walking. I guess they decided it was better for Hubbard residents to be unemployed rather than be non-union.

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115Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles:

Old dogs don't need to learn new tricks do they ?

"Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause.

That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores."

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116Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

BEAGLE DOG POPULATE THE LOT AT UFCW LOCAL 880 with GM cars and then you may have some credibility with me. GM Lordstown has been in a shutdown and neither I nor many others feel obligated to you to pay the high prices at Giant Eagle .

If you want to talk about Henry's Nissan lets talk about the Honda in your lot . You are far from being union loyal unless it is UFCW LOCAL 880.

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117Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The UAW is not the culprit here . I drive GM and have no complaints . Auto workers and GM Lordstown have been a huge financial influence in The Valley . If it wasn't for GM Lordstown I would not have at my fingertips state of the art computer equipment that has no limits nor the talent to use it .

The culprit here is the choices that Giant Eagle and their lap dog UFCW Local 880 want to force upon you . Eliminating competition can then satisfy the corporate greed of Giant Eagle .

Many non union stores are frequented by UAW workers from GM Lordstown who have money to spend . During the plant shutdown and restructuring we all face an uncertain financial future . Let us keep low priced food supplies available for all to be able to put food on the table .

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118th(61 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

6beagles,

The link you are referring to only shows stories that are current. After a set amount of time the stories go off the list to make room for new content.

Sincerely,
Thomas Hibbard
The Vindy.com Team

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119Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Smoke and mirrors beagledog ? All of your smoke is cutting down on the visibility to use your mirrors .

Just where are you trying to unionize any of Henry's stores ? All I see is Giant Eagles lap dog trying to shut them down so Giant Eagle will have a larger market share .

This is all about satisfying the huge appetite for corporate profits at Giant Eagle by your spending more of your food dollars for less food . Do you owe them that ?

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120Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

BEAGLEDOG:

"Dear Mr. Hubbard,

Please accept my apology for suggesting that the Vindicator would do something as nefarious as that"

Even kids who post here know that the list changes. I can see now why you got your position.

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121Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

No need for you to get excited beagledog. Such occurances are a natural with some people and you aren't alone. However, you do exceed all expectations.

I made a mistake by patronizing Giant Eagle in the past but I too have moved on.

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122jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Beagles: I think part of the problem is you say one thing, but do something else. You say the pickets are out there to inform the public that Nemenz is non-union. Fine. But if that is all you are doing, why did you post a video on your You Tube site showing a Nemenz bakery manager get into a truck and drive off the lot, supposedly on a truck-restricted street? You even mentioned the man's name on the video. What does that have to do with informing the public that Nemenz is non-union? It looks like basic harassment and intimidation to me. Your campaign is simply to harass and intimidate the employees of Nemenz and the public in general not to shop at his stores. Whether it be to lessen compeition or "payback" workers who choose to work union-free, who knows. Probably both. And as a lower-level operative, you probably don't know the real reason your doing what your doing. Just following what the union boss tells you.

By the way, a truck in Ohio, regarding streets marked "No Trucks" refers to trucks of 3 axles or more and/or weigh over 26,000 pounds. The truck that the bakery manager was driving does not qualify as a truck by that definition. Therefore, he did not breaking any law. You would know that if you paid attention in drivers ed.

You said a man admits when he is wrong and moves on. Care to admit anything? I wonder what the NLRB would say?

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123Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

LET'S REMEMBER THE PAST HISTORY OF GIANT EAGLE

Jul. 26-2002-YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio--Giant Eagle isn't a greedy corporate giant trying to become a monopoly. Instead, it's a longtime Mahoning Valley resident hoping Phar-Mor will be able to find tenants for its soon-to-be vacant stores, according to the company's attorney.

"It's not like we're coming in. We've been here," said Daniel Shapira, Giant Eagle attorney.

Some residents have criticized the Pittsburgh-based grocery store chain for its role as a liquidator of bankrupt Phar-Mor. Locals say they feel Giant Eagle wants to keep storefronts empty to eliminate its competition and the company has little concern for the jobs lost as a result of the bankruptcy.

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124Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Giant Eagle is still overpricing but Save-A-Lot true to their name will save you a lot !

http://save-a-lot.com/sites/save-a-lo...

WHERE HAS THAT BEAGLEDOG FLEW OFF TO ?

http://i25.tinypic.com/o7n2uw.jpg

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125Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

During these tough times the unemployed from GM Lordstown and other places have Save A Lot available for affordable food .

What does UFCW support ?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2czvvjb.jpg

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126Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Your BS in supporting high food prices is not exciting very many in The Valley . High corporate profits for Giant Eagle take the money out of The Valley . Perhaps you could explain why the people of The Valley should sustain this and do without other necessities ?

What does UFCW support ?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2czvvjb.jpg

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127Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well BEAGLEDOG you have turned me off from shopping at the Giant Eagle . Those who are in my circle have taken their business elsewhere also. I will not support a store with my business that has poor business ethics. Henry's IGA and Save A Lots have plenty of good food at very reasonable pricing.

I shop at Rulli Brothers also on occasion.

How many workers from Giant Eagle shop elsewhere because they can't afford the high prices? The statistics on that may be surprising.

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http://i32.tinypic.com/2czvvjb.jpg

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128Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well LAPDOG AKA BEAGLEDOG. So you have had a breathing problem in your encounters with Giant Eagle corporate ?

Now if my graphic stated a falsehood and was a copy of someone else's work there may be a case. Where does 880 have such a graphic? The next step would be copyright. Is it copyrighted? All of my graphics on the web are free use BTW.

This is all about freedom. We are a free and proud nation. Well most of us are proud unlike you. All that obedience to Giant Eagle is making you skitsy. Now lets get back to freedom and choices. Henry made a choice to market affordable food. GOD BLESS HIM ! His affordable food allows people to have money for the other basics in life. Housing,utilities and transportation. The people do not owe it to Giant Eagle to spend all of their money on food !

What does UFCW support ?

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129Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

BEAGLEDOG, there is not enough money for any basics when shopping at Giant Eagle. This all about keeping the top dogs in UFCW in huge salaries and satisfying the corporate appetite at Giant Eagle. Does David S. Shapira drive a GM car? I highly doubt it.

SAVE A LOT VS. UFCW 880 and GIANT EAGLE = CORPORATE GREED

Chairman, President, and CEO David S. Shapira
COO John R. Lucot
SVP and CFO Mark J. Minnaugh

Giant Eagle Inc is one of the nation's largest food
retailers and food distributors with approximately
$7.1 billion in annual sales. They are one of the
largest largest private corporations in the USA.

OLD CONTRACT
UFCW Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause. That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores.

RECENT CONTRACT
Now that they have finally reached labor peace with each other, Giant Eagle and its largest employees union (UFCW) said that they will work together to do battle with non-union competitors in Ohio and Western Pennsylvania.

GIANT EAGLE
101 Kappa Dr.
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
United States

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130Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Too bad that with corporate greed and outrageous pricing in this economy they are losing customers. If they weren't they wouldn't need the lap dogs (UFCW) to picket the competition . Corporate greed will cause them to cut wages to compliment cuts in prices.

PARIS HAS A LAPDOG TOO !
http://www.blogdogs.com/hiltondog.jpg

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131Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well BEAGLEDOG you are serving your very rich masters at Giant Eagle well. While they make far more money than Henry their corporate greed keeps you from enjoying their millions. Henrys earnings are nominal compared to theirs.

BEEN TO THEIR RETREAT YET ?
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132Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So what good things do you have planned for IGA and Save A Lots ? How about those who lost their jobs at the Hubbard store? I'll bet that they have a real love for UFCW and Giant Eagle. Your cause is being exposed for being the lap dog to Giant Eagle that you are.

JUST THE FACTS !
OLD CONTRACT
UFCW Local 880 also entered into collective bargaining agreements with unionized supermarkets containing a "wage stabilization" clause. That clause permitted the unionized supermarkets to reduce the union employees' wages to the level paid by the non-unionized stores unless the union was picketing the non-unionized stores.

RECENT CONTRACT
Now that they have finally reached labor peace with each other, Giant Eagle and its largest employees union (UFCW) said that they will work together to do battle with non-union competitors in Ohio and Western Pennsylvania.

GIANT EAGLE
101 Kappa Dr.
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
United States

BEEN TO THEIR RETREAT YET ?
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133Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

BEAGLEDOG you are really blowing smoke ! Too bad it's clouding your vision.

Henry put a pile of money into that store and provided jobs. I seen no indication of you trying to unionize that store. Your goal was to shut it down to benefit the newly built Giant Eagle on 193 . You provided no benefit to the workers who were out of jobs when it closed.

Now to show that UFCW 880 are just plain lap dogs and not hypocrites will we see pickets at the Liberty Walmart that is soon to open? One thing for sure is the fact that members of UFCW 880 will be in there shopping.

What does UFCW support ?

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134Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

No need to remind me that you are a lapdog ! I'll see you at the Walmart grand opening doing your shopping.

hy·poc·ri·sy (hĭ-pŏk'rĭ-sē)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

What does UFCW support ?

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135Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

AH MR BEAGLEDOG I see you talk out of both faces very well.

Those Walmart workers are just begging to get unionized. Right? But you dont have the time for them ? Just what did you do for the IGA workers in Hubbard?

Perhaps I could get you to picket my office? Now that would be good for a lot of web material. :)

BTW, I may soon have a video of some your picketers shopping at Wallmart.

BEEN TO THE RETREAT YET ?
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136Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I don't believe that you had ten to put on the line !

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137jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Beagles never did say why he is videotaping Nemenz employees on the job, giving out their names, and accusing them of breaking the law when they are not (only because the idiot doesn't even know the law - dam* I hate stupid people!!!!!). It looks like harrassment, intimidation, and maybe even stalking to me. What do you have to say about it, Beagles? I really would like to know how doing that is informing the public about the union status of Nemenz.

Just to let you know, this is why most of us fight unions. This guy is trying to make a living, and you are out there harrassing him because he does not believe the same way you do. Maybe the tables need turned.

I really don't like to personally attack, but Beagles, if you paid attention in drivers ed, you would know the definition of truck is. Of course, if you paid attention in school, you wouldn't be a union hack at age 48. Great career choices, pal.

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138jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The thing is I don't believe he'll ever be man enough to respond to this. He knows what he is doing is simple harassment and intimidation. He knows what he is doing is wrong. Otherwise, he would be defending it. But he can't. He's one of those guys that the only power he's ever had in his life was as a union hack, and its gone strait to his head. Union bosses prey on guys like this.

To each his own, but when you start violating other people's rights and privacy, and saying they did something wrong because you don't know the law, I have a problem with that. A lot of us have a problem with that.

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139jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Here is the video that I have been talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2efOrT...

Take your blood pressure medicine before viewing.

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140Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Beagledog has been causing Giant Eagle to lose customers and for UFCW Local 880 it has meant losing goodwill .

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141Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

My only mistake was in not exposing your BS last year . Want credibility Beagledog ? Then picket Walmart when they open in Liberty . I'll honor your picket line . They are Giant Eagle's biggest threat . I predict that the Giant Eagle on 193 will have severe financial pains before 2010 . If you wont or can't then you are not even much of a lap dog .

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142jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Let's get specific. I know the union has this information. What is the wage gap between a Giant Eagle employee versus a Nemenz employee? I am not asking this as a leading question, I really have no idea. I want to see how much we are talking about here. Also, what are the current union dues?

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143jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

If you would read what I have posted, you would know I live in Georgia. I cannot walk into Nemenz and ask for a pay chart. Why don't you ever answer any questions with specifics? You just write what the union tells you.

I had a friend in the 90's work for Giant Eagle. He made minimum wage, plus had to pay a $50 initiation fee to join the union (which was not an option) and something like $15 a month. How did the union help him? I suspect the situation is worse now.

I think you must get paid quite a bit from the union. Only someone who steals from the working poor through manditory dues would be as defensive and unspecific as you. If Giant Eagle employees actually made more, you would be trumpeting it. I started to kind of feel sorry for you thinking you were a little mentally slow or something, but now I think you are just a completely self-centered idiot living off the labor of the working poor. A true dirtbag and enemy of the workers parading around as a friend.

Now you can call me a nasty name....

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144jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Your right, beagle, I am lazy. I will correct my ways. Here are the average salaries for grocery workers in Youngstown (the entire metro area): http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=groce.... According to the site, grocery workers make 23% less than their counterparts in other parts of the country (as of July 2009). Way to go UFCW!

Now guess what else I found. Anyone who works for a labor union that makes more than $10,000 from the union must report that fact to the government. Salaries, benefits, etc paid by the union can be found here: http://kcerds.dol-esa.gov/query/getOf...

If anyone knows beagles name PLEASE DO NOT POST IT. Let's keep everyone's privacy in check. But if you know his name, look up his pay and post back (just his union pay, please). Let's get a real picture of how much this guy takes from his fellow workers. I think he's a union hack, not a concerned employee.

Thanks for setting me strait beagles. No more laziness for jethead11.

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145Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

IS THIS A LOST CAUSE ?

Unfair Labor Practice Violation
United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, Local 880, AFL-CIO, CLC (Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.)

Case # 06-CB-10550-001
Employees Involved: 400
2/9/01

Allegations
Other Allegations [NLRA Section: 8(b)(1)(A)]
Coercive Statements [NLRA Section: 8(b)(1)(A)]

Parties
Employer Involved #1 Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Charged Party #1 United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local 880, AFL-CIO, CLC

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146Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Highest Paid Local 880 Leaders & Staff Name
Thomas Robertson President $ 187,641
Carl Ivka Union Representative $ 118,267
Robert Grauvogl Secretary-treasurer $ 117,339
Michael Krzys Vice President $ 112,305
Jill Adam Vice President $ 98,716
Gary Weitzel Vice President $ 96,215
Grace Sisson Director Of Accounting $ 93,941
Barbara Caruso Coordinator $ 93,160
Samuel Clem Union Representative $ 86,603
Mark Rock Admin Asst To President $ 84,736

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147redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Gee, where does all this money come from to pay all these salaries? I see over a million dollars here. Oh, that's right, union dues! Yes, you must belong to the union, pay your dues, let someone else think and speak for you and keep your mouth shut in order to work in that union shop.

If you work hard, and show up for work on time everyday, you can be sure that the person next to you that does not carry their share of the load will make the same amount as you. If they were hired one day before you they will advance before you also no matter whether you are a better worker or not.

By the way dog, you mentioned the people that were picketing in favor of Henry. truth is that they have made their point and you know it. That is getting to you even though you will not admit it.

One last thing, you stated that nonunion operators rake in huge profits while the little guys suffer. Is Giant eagle one of those poor little guys?

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148Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Kind of like the Giant Eagle UFCW relationship ? The hierarchy makes the big bucks while those who toil in the stores are being short changed which is evidenced by Giant Eagle's atrocious pricing . Corporate greed is being satisfied at the expense of both the workers and shoppers . UFCW leadership is happy with the arrangement as they are well compensated .

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149Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

In comments 227 and 233 I didn't address the post to anyone but just posted . Post 231 wasn't posted by me .

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150Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The way I and many others see it is the fact that UFCW Local 880 is wasting both their time and their money in picketing at Save A Lot Poland and IGA in Struthers . The shoppers are getting irritated at the pickets cluttering up the area . Are the people being informed ? You bet ! They know that the stores aren't being unionized but that UFCW is trying to convince people to shop at Giant Eagle to pay far more for far less . The people are not being duped by UFCW Local 880 and Giant Eagle .

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151Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Better stick to licking boots at Giant Eagle for a living . You'll starve in graphic arts !

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152redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

beagles, you are not allowed to admit that Henry got a lot of positive publicity over this whole thing. Look how many posts are in this thread. You are about the last gasp for the union side. Kind of outnumbered here recently but you will battle on. "Union forever", as long as the dues keep rolling in.

I have no problem with the union rank and file. As stated above, they are exploited by the union big wigs. I personally enjoyed being able to advance in my working career based on my merits, not just seniority. Enjoying a nice retirement with a healthy 401 that a lot of the union pension fund retires would gladly trade for. My retirement is completely in my control.

Maybe Stan will repent and beg your forgiveness for challenging your gospel word. On second thought, I kinda doubt it!

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153Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

tiredofStan:

Thanks for the data ! I see that you have an old HP PC .

You wouldn't threatening me by chace would you on post 243 ?

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154Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

There is no need for me to speculate whether you are a fool or not ! :)

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155Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Now we see the THE REAL,THE HATEFULL side of UFCW !

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156redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You are not allowed to admit that Henry got a lot of positive publicity over this whole thing. Look how many posts are in this thread. You are about the last gasp for the union side. Kind of outnumbered here recently but you will battle on. "Union forever", as long as the dues keep rolling in.

I have no problem with the union rank and file. As stated above, they are exploited by the union big wigs. I personally enjoyed being able to advance in my working career based on my merits, not just seniority. Enjoying a nice retirement with a healthy 401 that a lot of the union pension fund retires would gladly trade for. My retirement is completely in my control.

Maybe Stan will repent and beg your forgiveness for challenging your gospel word. On second thought, I kinda doubt it!

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157redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

One thing is for sure Stan, when beagles has to drum up a poster just to challenge you then you know you have gotten to him.

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158Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

It can be explained !

This must be gay pride month at UFCW . Beagledog AKA tiredofStan is very active . I'll be on my good behavior and not criticize his coming out .

http://www.ufcw.org/gay_and_lesbian_p...

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159redvert(2090 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Stan, I commend you, the timing of posting your link was perfect. His "other side of Mt. Rushmore" link sure fits their gay pride theme.

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160jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

For a minute there I thought I went to the alternative lifestyles blog by accident.

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161Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Tomorrow is the big day of the Walmart opening in Liberty . Will the store be picketed ? Not a chance because the pickets will be inside shopping .

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162Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I am getting ready to check out the Walmart opening at Liberty . I know my UFCW union friends will be inside shopping . Maybe I can do an interview of their shopping experience there.

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163cambridge(3047 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProMerkin...."Talk about lying,hipocrites." Since you belonged to unions and worked side by side with union workers enjoying the benefits earned through the sacrifice of the generations that came before you, I think that makes you the lying hypocrite.

You sit behind your keyboard and write hate for unions and their members but never one time did you have the gears to say it to someones face that you worked next to year after year, Your a low life and a coward.

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164Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I support the UAW, Delphi and GM Lordstown workers and retireees. I also support the independent non union marketers in The Valley . GOD BLESS them! Many buy GM products built at Lordstown besides providing employment for many people. The UFCW and their actions of heckling customers at SAVE A LOT and IGA has caused Giant Eagle to lose my business and that of my circle . Their actions are soley to gain market share for Giant Eagle at atrociouspricing. I see no union organizing going on at SAVE A LOT or IGA . Many of us are tired of UFCW cluttering up the lots at the stores. Freedom of choice is still alive and well in The Valley.

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165Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"anti-Semitic" ?

Now where did you find any posting to suggest this ?

So I should rot because I support the many in The Valley who generate money to buy Lordstown built GM products ? Your attitude is what repulses me against Giant Eagle and UFCW !

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166Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"UFCW is gaining more support every day."

Keep thinking that so you won't be depressed .

I have seen pondscum and it has redeaning value unlike you . You really don't care about the workers in non union stores and they are impressed that you only live to serve not your fellow brothers and sisters but only to milk them for what you can to serve the hierarchy ! It sure would be to their benefit to help you serve . Too bad thet they think for themselves .

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167POinty13(1 comment)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Hello NAmes Bryan Cramer and myself and a group of friends have been showing our support for Mr Nemenz by Picketing The Picketers Since Aug 5. It has been going great and support is thru the roof in the community. don't know if anyone will see this but, We're at the Iga in struthers From 3 to 6 weekdays. the past couple days Gary Weitzel and Mark Rock have been trying to Bully and Antagonize us into leaving.

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168Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

This all about freedom and choice . I choose to support affordable food prices and exercise my freedom of speech in doing so . The UFCW is all about supporting Giant Eagle and atrociously high food prices . During these tough times IGA and Save A Lot allow people to buy food without sacrificing money needed for other bills . GOD BLESS Henry Nemenz for being here for us during these tough times .

Those who are picketing the picketers have my admiration and total support . Do not be intimidated by the UFCW goons . You are on the side of freedom and they merely have selfish interests .

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169Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So I see that you have found GOD and are back . Surely you must have been investigating hallucinogenic materials if you believe that you have any resemblance to GOD .

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170satan(1 comment)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Now here's a guy that I am going to have a lot of fun with soon. Stan is just the kind of guy that I can use. And what is wrong with Henry? The man has been doing my bidding for years now.

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171Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So you have come clean and posted as your real self . Now you have two logins to get booted off again when your real self surfaces and you spew forth vile garbage .

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172Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

HERE ARE THE FACTS

http://www.unionfacts.com/aboutUs.cfm

In 2005 alone, federal racketeering investigations resulted in 196 convictions against union officials and employees and $187 million in fines. Union tactics -- including deception and intimidation during organizing campaigns, strikes that hurt members more than they help, spending mandatory union dues on radical political agendas, and the use of anti-democratic voting practices -- are long overdue for exposure.

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173gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Oh, MY GOD in Heaven!!!
[The REAL One].

This is the the most I've laughed ALL WDSTK DAZE!

We that really believe already know: Dog is God.
God is Dog.

Stan, THX.

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174Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

FYI there is a difference between discussion and spewing vile garbage.

When support isn't going your way your revert to your old time proven tactics .

Perhaps you may want to contact http://www.unionfacts.com to present your side of the story . Information is good as it presents underlying motives and defines the direction of the journey .

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175Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I expose the true facts which you don't want revealed . You have the audacity to talk usurping the constitution when that is exactly your motive .

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176Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Plenty of news is coming in on your agenda which will be shared . Feel free to respond . Your viewpoint has always been appreciated as it showed your flawed thinking .

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177Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

UFCW GOUGING WORKERS PAYING DUES TO THE MAX !

A full investigation of UFCW by the FBI is warranted to protect the integrity of the union .

Let's compare top salaries. UFCW vs UAW .

2006 TOP

UAW Ron Gajeski $173,904.
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

COMPARE OTHERS AT BOTH UNIONS
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi....

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178Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

THE UFCW's DOWN AND DIRTY MAFIA TACTICS

THE FBI SHOULD TAKE ACTION AND BRING CHARGES AGAINST THEM

http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_hust...

The union has engaged a war to the hilt strategy against the grocer even to the extent of surreptitiously placing expired products on store shelves and then calling authorities as if it was the store chain itself allowing those expired items to stay on sale. The union has also filed dozens of harassing and false lawsuits as well as opening uncounted EEOC investigations attempting to force the business to acquiesce to union demands

Proving that what workers want is of no interest to unions, rejection by employees is not good enough for the UFCW, however. The food workers union has used every weapon at its disposal to tear down the food chain and force its own will on workers and business alike.

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179Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

The slander against Basha's along with planted expired goods isn't going well with Basha's workers . Down and dirty Mafia tactics aren't being supported . It looks like UFCW isn,t making any friends . A full FBI investigation is inevitable against UFCW .

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/vall...

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180Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

UFCW IS NOT MAKING ANY FRIENDS

http://mitchellblatt.com/blog/2009/08...

August 21st, 2009 Union Whose President is Paid $626,769 Protests Supermarket CEO Who Earns $33,831
The UFCW (United Food and Commercial Workers), whose president earns $626,769 a year, has launched a campaign against Whole Foods, whose CEO earns $1 a year in salary.

Whole Foods CEO John Mackey’s total compensation is $33,831, and he has implemented executive pay limits for all of his executives.

Mackey’s sin? He offers his employees good benefits, and UFCW wants them to unionize so that their union bosses can make more money.

Whole Foods pays 100% of its employees health insurance premiums, pays competitively and is listed as one of the 25 Best Companies to Work For.

While we have Markey earning $33,831 in total compensation, lets see how much UFCW bosses make:

UFCW Top 10, 2006
Executive - Gross Salary - Total Compensation

Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949
John Niccollai II, President, Local 464 - $430,107 - $434,548
Ramon Rando, Secretary/treasurer, Local 464 - $379,761 - $387,632
Joseph Hansen, International president - $297,790 - $345,426
Richard Abondolo, President, Local 342 - $296,033 - $318,103
Anthony Fazio, President, Local 348 - $244,000 - $313,161
Michael Fraser, Retired spec assistant - $199,385 - $302,454
Johnny Rodriguez, President, Local 540 - $299,638 - $299,638
Jean-Joseph Bruny, President, Local 888 - $260,760 - $290,403
Frank Hanley Jr., Recorder, Local 464 - $277,342 - $285,979

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181Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES
http://i31.tinypic.com/34zfz1i.jpg

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182Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

YOU MAY HAVE REMOVED IT FROM TINY PIC BUT ITS STILL IN THE ARCHIVES !

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5903...

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183Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

YOU MAY HAVE REMOVED IT BUT ITS STILL IN THE ARCHIVES !

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES

http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1...

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184Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

That is a snapshot of your profile at the Vindy when you had nine posts . Posters remorse now ?

I had scanned the page for code when I first entered the website . There is no invasive code to harm a computer . Thanks for the concern .

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185Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 2 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Here is the complete file of the webpage snapshot .

http://www.plunder.com/vindicatorsnig...

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186Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years ago

The UFCW is socialism at it's worst ! They are out to destroy free enterprise for their own greed .

Wise shoppers shop where the price is right . Giant Eagle pricing is far from being right . I save enough in one month shopping elsewhere to drive my car for two months and I drive a lot !

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