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Nuisance order locks up Cell

Published: Fri, January 9, 2009 @ 12:10 a.m.
  Cell Closing

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CLOSING A BAR: The Cell, a bar at 221 Belmonst Ave., is boarded up after Judge John M. Durkin of Mahoning County Common Pleas Court issued a temporary restraining order that declared it a public nuisance. Telly Dutton, left, and David Gordon, of National Fire Repair in Youngstown, apply the plywood.

By Peter H. Milliken

The bar near YSU has been ‘an epicenter for unlawful activity,’ the city prosecutor said.

YOUNGSTOWN — A lower Belmont Avenue bar that catered to young adults has been padlocked and boarded up by order of Judge John M. Durkin of Mahoning County Common Pleas Court.

Judge Durkin declared The Cell, 221 Belmont Ave., a public nuisance Thursday and issued a temporary restraining order to close it, inventory its contents and secure it until further notice at the request of Jay Macejko, city prosecutor.

Continued illegal alcohol sales and other violations of the law at The Cell “will cause immediate and irreparable harm to the City of Youngstown and the surrounding community by negatively affecting the public decency, sobriety, peace and good order of the neighborhood,” according to Judge Durkin’s order.

Anyone trespassing on the premises or mutilating or removing the order posted at the bar will be punished by contempt of court, the order says.

Judge Durkin will conduct a 10 a.m. Jan. 20 hearing on Macejko’s request for preliminary and permanent injunctive relief against the bar, which is in the shadows of the Mahoning County jail.

Named in Macejko’s civil complaint for nuisance abatement are the property owner, William S. Matsouris, of North Jackson, and his tenant, Jason Moore, of Girard, who operates the bar.

“We are being wrongly accused of something we did not do, and it’ll be proven in court,” Moore said, declining to make any further comment.

Matsouris could not be reached for comment.

Macejko alleges that underage sale and possession of alcohol occurred at the bar and that bar employees obstructed liquor enforcement agents entering the establishment.

State liquor agents reported receiving complaints concerning The Cell since 2003, but the current management took over in mid-2006, Macejko said.

“We see 99 calls for service from the Youngstown Police Department. We have 32 complaints to the liquor control board resulting in 50 arrests for liquor violations and other violations of the law,” since mid-2006, Macejko said in an interview.

“We have dozens of Youngstown police reports involving disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, felonious assault, assault on police officers and thefts. It is just such an epicenter for unlawful activity that we have to act,” Macejko added.

“We want to send a strong message to other bars or businesses that are allowing or engaging in criminal activity that it will stop; and it turns out that The Cell may be the first of many to fall,” Macejko said.

Most recently, liquor agents issued four underage drinking citations at The Cell on Dec. 20 and two more Jan. 3.

Macejko’s complaint cites two specific incidents:

Youngstown police charged a 19-year-old man with aggravated-vehicular assault after a Poland Avenue crash on Aug. 20, 2008, in which his passenger was severely injured. Police said that driver, who had a blood-alcohol content of 0.208, had been drinking at The Cell just before the crash.

Ohio’s minimum legal drinking age is 21; and the legal limit for driving is 0.08 for adults. For those under 21, the limit is 0.02, making the 19-year-old’s BAC 10 times the legal limit.

When an Ohio State Highway Patrol trooper arrested a woman on a drunken-driving charge April 6, 2007, an inventory of the vehicle she was driving revealed 29 grams of powdered cocaine, 24 grams of heroin, four grams of crack cocaine and an unspecified amount of marijuana, which the driver said someone gave her to deliver to The Cell. A gram is 1/28 of an ounce.

Liquor agents have witnessed loud music, yelling, improper parking and fighting at The Cell, according to the complaint.

Matsouris and Moore have “permitted, committed or acquiesced to the illegal activity” at The Cell, the complaint alleges.

In affidavits attached to the complaint, a city police patrolman and sergeant and a state liquor agent said The Cell’s general reputation in the community is that of a bar where underage people can be served alcohol.

milliken@vindy.com


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1Askmeificare(700 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Great job. I hope we don't stop there.

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2sobeit(98 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

"The Cell’s general reputation in the community is that of a bar where underage people can be served alcohol."

Kind of how Ernie McDougal's and Pogo's was back in my day!

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3Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

The cell has no redeaming value to the community. All they were doing was pandering misery to the young and their families. College kids study much better when they are sober.

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4bucknutz(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Not to mention that the DJ is really fat.

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5aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Yeah but it's okay, bucknutz. After all the kids get sloshed, they don't even notice!

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6YtownNative1(3 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

If anyone agrees that this bar should be shut down you are out of your minds. This bar does absolutely nothing different than every other bar in ytown, if your gonna shut this one down then shut them all down. How bout JayJay's which has been an underage drinking haven for 30 years. All this does is prove that if you pay the right people in ytown you are above the law. Compare The Cells record to most bars in ytown and you will find that it is MUCH less of a problem. Anyone who supports this bar getting shut down is either A) totally ignorant to the situation so should not comment or B) apparently supports the inequality that the prosecutor and liqour enforcement show towards bars that arent willing to do what it "takes" to make them look the other way. The judge should be just as ashamed of not being more curious why there are other bars with more violations/complaints that arent getting touched

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

"When an Ohio State Highway Patrol trooper arrested a woman on a drunken-driving charge April 6, 2007, an inventory of the vehicle she was driving revealed 29 grams of powdered cocaine, 24 grams of heroin, four grams of crack cocaine and an unspecified amount of marijuana, which the driver said someone gave her to deliver to The Cell. A gram is 1‚Ñ28 of an ounce."

So, no big deal?

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8aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

As a college student, I have to say... among the 18-20 year olds that I go to school with, when any of them talk about going to the bar to get drunk, probably about 90% of them reference The Cell. Granted, there are many other bars that serve minors as well, but it just seems like The Cell is one of the most notorious bars for serving underage patrons.

Just sayin'.

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9aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Stan, they just wanted to give us non-users a little bit of some good ole' Y-town education.

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10zieg2003(82 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

The cell is definately one of the most popular bars in ytown, that barleys and friedas. Everyones to afraid to ask an age so everyone can get alcohol. The arabs sell to miners and most of the bars, hell I was even able to get underage alcohol from a bowling alley. Nothing serious ever happened at the cell, the ypd needs to focus on the more important things in the city instead of closing down prosperous businesses and popular hang out spots, cause they sure as hell need them.

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11bmthomas36(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

first of all. Jayjays is closed also. second. College kids do not want 18 year old high school innercity kids running around our bars. We have to deal with them on campus due to to YEC program and frankly being a senior, the high school crap is getting old I am 23 years old. I dont want some 18 year old running around in a drunk stupor. Close THE CELL and while your at it drive over to Mickeys on Belmont and look in the back... Ill show you half the YSU freshman class... who are all 18 years old. Lets start making Youngstown have some class. Make the bars strict, make owners accountable. I have pride in YSU and Youngstown lets clean out the trash.

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12bluedevil5031(5 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

first of all bucknutz you should know what your talking about, i would like to tell you that more than half of the "unders" that go in have fake i.d's, this is a practice that has been around longer than you have, second of all it is so easy to get served as an "under" if you know someone that is of legal age who is willing to buy it for you, and third of all unless you have bartended at a place that is as busy as the cell, you cannot police all the underage kids that are sticking chewing gum on the wristbands that signify if you are old enough to drink...College kids drink, in every city, how about you go to shakers and see the "unders that are there, i am not an advocate for underage drinking but, it is extremely unfair for the cell to get singled out...as far as the girl that got pulled over with all the drugs, thats her own damn fault, and even it was true that she was "delivering" it to the cell, how the hell is that the cells fault? what if one of his/her friends was at taco bell eating, are you gonna board up all the taco bell's in the area? And another thing, I know the D.J. and yea he might be a lil overweight, but i will tell you first hand that he is one of the nicest guys that you could ever want to meet, would do anything for you, so unless you know him, dont judge a book by it's cover, a lesson your parents failed to teach you...again i am not for underage drinking, so if you are gonna single out the cell, then point the finger at all the other bars in the city that cater to the same crowd, you think its a coincidence that jay jay's has closed 25 time????

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13Mz_Osu_fan80(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

This has obviously been an on going investigation. The owners of the establishment knowingly serve underage week after week. Needless to say that is not only illegal, but also irresponsible. There's a reason a legal age is put on alcohol. There's been many acts of violence in that place and it mostly comes from young people not knowing how to conduct themselves when under the influence. The place has lost a great deal of thier older crowd so became very leniant on serving underage. Basically what it comes down to is they didn't care as long as they were making their money. Not to mention some of the staff were extremely racist. If an establishment is going to be 18^ there should be tight security monitoring those drinking & not playing favorites to those ppl they kno are drinking underage. Any place with that behavior deserves to be closed down. Perhaps if they appealed to an older crowd and changed admission to strictly over 21 the establishment wouldn't have to deal with these problems & it would be a nice place to frequent

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14aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Since when is Mickeys on Belmont? Not that I disagree with any of your statements... I just thought it was alway on Market.

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15YtownNative1(3 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

That comment about the girl delivering drugs to The Cell may be the single most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. Call me crazy but i find it pretty hard to believe that someone was planning on bringing a cache of drugs to a club filled with 350 people and 2 YPD officers at the door. Anyone that thinks that a drug dealers word is a very reliable source of information isnt someone who needs to be commenting anyway. All im saying is that there is obviously more at play here. I can assure you that the media is making The Cell look a whole lot worse than it actually is simply to scare people into thinking that it is some crazy, out-of-control place that needs to be shutdown. I challenge anyone to walk in there and see for yourself if they get the chance to reopen. See for yourself, meet the people who work there, meet the owners, etc. I promise you that you will walk out with a different view on the situation. The only people that are saying it was such a bad place are the very people that have been kicked out for doing stupid things or have been refused entrance because they cant seem to meet a simple dress code. Just be cognizant of where you get your information and from who it comes from. Im sure they're not perfect but these are just regular people trying to run a successful business, not the monsters that some people would have you think

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16aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

It's not the fact that they're monsters... it's just the fact that they are very irresponsible business operators, just like Mz_OSU stated. If they weren't, none of this would have ever happened.

Also, to bluedevil, who referenced the fact that it's hard to monitor underage drinking with of-age patrons buying drinks for minors, etc. -- there are two solutions to that. If The Cell is so busy, then they should be making enough of a profit to hire extra staffing to help prevent this from happening. And if they don't want to do that -- change the age of entrance to 21. It's common sense. Why else does an 18-20 year old go to a bar anyhow? I'm pretty certain it isn't to go flirt with the 'overweight DJ.'

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

YtownNative1:

The cell was not shut down beacause they were your everyday nice place to hang out. They broke many laws in a big way. Until what they did is legalized they pay the price. Perhaps you can lobby for them to have the laws changed?

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18YtownNative1(3 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I can tell you this, I no longer live in Ytown but when i did i went to The Cell quite often and have never seen the things that they supposedly did on a regular basis. Everytime that i come back into town, i stop in The Cell for a drink or two. There is no reason to lobby for laws to be changed, if you know the laws then you know that a bar cannot be held responsible for overage people buying underage people drinks in a bar. They can try to police this but they will never be 1005 effective. YOU should however, as a resident of Youngstown, be lobbying for laws to be applied fairly to everyone to which they apply. I know that would be a first in the town, but hey, you gotta start somewhere right?

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19bluedevil5031(5 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

How about you just tell the idiot parents to monitor their idiot kids, i remember when i was 17-18 my parents knew where i was at all times, and at no point in time was i at a bar drinking underage illegally...

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20DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Dear Cell owners:
If the Cell was in Girard the police would be much more lenient. This was bad location planning by the Cell owners.
You could have a patron get beaten to death by other drunk underage patrons, in your parking lot, and still be open the next night. Hell, odds are you would never be held liable at all, no one would. Why wouldn't you want your business in a location so conducive to upstanding bussinesses? Girard: A nice place to run an establishment, especially if you want to circumvent the laws.

A certain state senator

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21Askmeificare(700 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Just keep the business owners from ever owning a liquor license indefinitely and using / citing congruent past citations as evidence, up the harshness of laws to prosecute those lowlifes who sell to our minor children and relatives. Don’t let it stop here.

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22Jjones(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I personally feel that part of the problem with The Cell can be explained by looking at this picture I found on their Myspace. Here is a picture of Youngstown's finest just sitting around with some girl who appears to be extremely intoxicated. I honestly don't know how The Cell was able to operate the way it did for so long. Here is a link to the photo http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index...

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23aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Unless that girl just looks really young, but really isn't -- she most definitely is not 21 or older.

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24musicfan(2 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

to all of the people who are writing in about the cell.the two girls are over the age of 21 and they both use to bartend there.i have been a patron of the cell for a very long time and i am over the age of 21. i think that it is very unfair of what the city has done to them but all the other bars that have been actually serving the minors are allowed to stay open,what bout jay jays,mickeys,barleys,bw3s.they all serve minors. i can tell you that the staff of the cell did nothing wrong.and to bucknutz who made the comment about the dj.i know the dj very well.he is one of the most stand up guys around. the reason the cell is so busy is because of him.he is one of the most talented djs that i have ever seen.so to call him fat is ignorant. looks do not matter,he is a professional and would help anyone he could. i actually feel bad for him cause he is losing money doing what he loves the most. to the people reading this that support the cell you should do what you can to help them and as far as the dj goes someone should try and help him personally and get him a job in a bigger club.he is by far one of the most popular djs in ohio and loves everyone.it is unfair to him to be put down like this for whatever may be goin on.i would stand by him 100% because when push came to shove he would do it for this city. it is an honor to know someone of so much character and compassion for his job and his city.its jus to bad that you cant see it.

thanks
someone popular.

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25scrooge(563 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

“We see 99 calls for service from the Youngstown Police Department. We have 32 complaints to the liquor control board resulting in 50 arrests for liquor violations and other violations of the law,”
Since mid 2006 that works out to about 1 service call every 10 days! Hardly an ‘an epicenter for unlawful activity,’
Funny how YSU and Ytown want this to be a big time university town. Maybe they want the property for eminent domain too or something.

Welcome to the real world Ytown, it happens at all the college towns. Increase patrols, set up sobriety checkpoints, whatever but don't shut down one of the few prosperous business'.

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26musicfan(2 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

the best part of this is all the people who write in have prob never been to the cell. i never seen them serve one minor. yes they are 19 and over but so what,so is jay jays,pal joeys, mickeys.its the same everywhere.ok if you dont think young people should drink that is understandable.but y do frat houses have keg parties and hire a ysu cop to sit in a cruiser outside the party.im sure there is underage drinking there.and whatever else may go on.so that means ysu is ok with it as long as they are making money,and another kicker,ysu baseball accepted money from the cell for a donation and also had dj phatty throw out the first pitch at cafaro field.so who are really the corrupt people in this town.its your poloticians and officials.as long as they get a payoff they are happy and if they dont then bad press to the ones that dont pay.also a person was shot and killed outside of pal joeys,they are still open,someone shot at a customer at bw3s downtown,they r still open.doesnt anyone see the corruption here but me.

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27allstar720(253 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I miss Ernie McDougal's and Pogo's! More then that I miss being 17-19 and walking into any Youngstown club or gas station and buying beer. I was actually tired of bars and clubs by the time I turned 21 because I had been drinking in Youngstown since I was a junior in high school. Remember Mickie's and uptown too? That area was jumpin' in 96!

ahhhh.... memories.

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28punchdrunk3000(15 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Ohh my... where to even begin.

1) Why is The Cell being "picked on" while other bars that serve underage are still open? Read the interwiew with the judge. This is a wakeup call to other bars and I believe change will be taking place. The current major underage bar is now gone, other bars need to sharpen up unless they want to go out of business as well. Underage drinking in bars has been a long term problem that has resulted in only harming the community.

2) I have been offered ecstasy on the patio one night when there was only about a dozen people there. I have been solicited to buy marijuana too. Keep in mind I have only been to The Cell 8 times.

3) They do card when there are cops/undercovers/liquor agents/whoever normally isn't there standing around usually. What should tip the law enforcement off is why are all these kids just standing around all akward? Because they can't drink.

4) Like I said, I've only been there slightly more than half a dozen times, and I've witnessed 3 brawls. I used to frequent Shenanigans all the time back in the day and out of about 40 nights there, only 1 fight.

5) On the subject of Jay-Jay's/Shenanigans/Hoppin' Gators/Whatever they call themselves: This place needs to have a permenant ban of liquor sales for the building if they are just going to keep putting the name of someone in the family. Seriously.

6) I don't care who you are... but if you knowingly sell liquor to someone underage, you are a scumbag.

7) "musicfan" must be the dj's mommy. I saw that one photo on the forums with this DJ posing with underage girls with drinks in their hands... classy. I may not be a professional DJ... but I don't think you can seriously call him one of the best DJs in Ohio, let alone Youngstown. Sorry, but anyone can play "Crazy B*tch" and "Yeah". If he went up against a real DJ, he would get destroyed.

8) I've been in clubs in NYC that are strict no under 21 drinking or you're kicked out. With 500+ people. If places like The Cell claim they can't keep up with all of their customers, they need to hire more security and people to walk around kicking underage drinkers out... or go out of business since they can't do their job.

9) How to solve this problem? Make the bars that have problems with underage patrons 21 and over. You don't see AS MANY problems like this at those bars.

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29bluedevil5031(5 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

all you idiots are living in la la land, funny thing is the ppl. in those flyers are 21, i know them, obviously you dont so you need to keep your f*in mouths shut, this isnt NYC retard so thats not even a good reference, kids can drink at any bar in this area, name one and they can drink, whenever, wherever, i go to the cell 5 nights a week, and there are no more fights than any other place, actually i think they do quit well for the large amount of ppl. that go in there on the weekends. as for being offered xtc i have a hard time believing that, you mean to tell me that a stranger just walked up to you and said "hey man want some "x" okay dude, what it comes down to is this, kids are always gonna find a way to drink underage, to single the cell out is not fair, the media is making this place out to be way worse than it is TRUST ME, at least no one is getting killed in the parking lot like what happened in Girard at the golf dome, or a police officer getting killed in his cruiser like in the "uptown" or no ones is getting shot in the parking lot like pal joey's, and you know what dj Phatty may not be world renowned but he does his job and he does it well, and thats makin sure ppl. are on the dance floor and having a good time, leave the f*in place alone, i dont hear you sayin s**t about all the house parties that are going on around campus!!!! what is that okay?? they are charging to get in and are knowingly serving underage kids alcohol, at least they are not getting served at the cell, like i said before where are the parents in this matter, keeping and eye on their kids? I think not.

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30boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

wow musicfan, you sound like a very intelligent upstanding member of our community. It sounds to me like the closing of a bar is the end of all existence for you. I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully when you grow up you will come to the realization that there are more important things in life than bars and djs. Sure they are fun if you go once in a while, but the posters on this board obviously seem to attend this establishment more than they have EVER attended english class. And to everyone else who thinks this bar is being singled out or is some type of a local youngstown government conspiracy, just wait, Im sure in the coming months there will be more investigations, shut downs, etc. Your little bar scene drama filled evenings where drunken tragedies take place will soon come to an end, and if not, you will eventually grow out of it, and heckle the next generation of underage mtv drama junkies just like I am doing right now. Now go read a book.

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31boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

And by the way, I almost pissed myself laughing when you said "when push comes to shove, he would do it(dj) for this city". I love it. You should write a screenplay and make it into a movie with a cheesy 80's feel. "A dj that saved a city by spinning the remix that could save the world....."

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32aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Blue -- "i go to the cell 5 nights a week, and there are no more fights than any other place"

...if you so pathetic that you spend 5 nights a week at The Cell (or any bar for that matter), when do you truly have time to go to other bars to make a comparison as far as how many fights break out in a night?

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33aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

If you are so pathetic, I mean.

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34Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

bluedevil5031:

"all you idiots are living in la la land,"
"i go to the cell 5 nights a week,"

WOW! I am surprised that you are still able to function! Normal to you may very well be la la land.

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351phatdj(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

hello i am that really fat dj.where do i start,well first off i thank everyone who is writing in good or bad.i would like to take the time to set the record straight.we do not serve minors.now to the person who called me a really fat dj.that jus goes to show your ignorance as a human being.if you were there and a fight happened i apologize that an idiot ruined your time.now for the person that said someone approached them to by x,i find that very hard to believe that they jus picked you not once but twice,cmon dude are you kidding me.to say that we do not check ids,you are wrong.we have two bouncers at the door and we do check all ids.now for the person who said that djing is not a real job.djs in this world make good money,some make very good money.i do love djing it is my passion and i turned it into my proffesion.because you do not agree with it doesnt give you the right to pass judgement.i love what i do and i really dont care what anybody thinks about it.now to the person who said that music lover must be my mommy,you are an idiot and then you apperently do not know me,my mother passed away from cancer when i was 22.so find another subject.now for the ones that supprt the cell like bluedevil,scrooge,musiclover,i have no idea who you are but i thank you for the kind words i do appreciate them and they mean alot.now to the person who says im trying to save a town by spinning them a song you are an idiot and sound like one for even making a comment that is so stupid.i do support this town,i support all the teams of this town,i support our police department.now to the people that dont agree with someone coming to a bar all the time,are they affecting you in any way because they go there 2,3,4 times a week.who are you to pass judgement on what these people do.if they are happy and having a good time thats there life.do we say anything about how you stay home and write into blogs all day because you have no life no we dont thats what you enjoy.no i do not scratch at the cell because no one down there really cares about it and i have no room for turntables down there,so you might be really surprised what i can do on turntables but thats because you dont know me and jus want to make comments,if you do not like it there dont come very simple.now to the people that support what i do,thank you very much,yes i hope we reopen and im sure that we will.we will be going to 21 and over.i dont care wether you like me or not,it doesnt matter to me.i love what i do always have and always will.some of your comments are ridiculous,and comes from not knowing us or you are just plain miserable.thank you for taking the time to read this.i hope to change your mind but if not oh well life goes on.

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36boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Your ranting and spelling skills explain to me why you dj for underage drunks who sells drugs and fight. You would have been better off just sitting quietly and not doing anything else that will embarrass yourself.

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37Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

1phatdj:

" someone coming to a bar all the time,are they affecting you in any way"

They will have an effect unless they have a sober driver who wasn't drinking taking them home. Habitual drunks and dope addicts cause carnage on the road besides making their family do without the necessities of life.

"do we say anything about how you stay home and write into blogs all day because you have no life"

You may be surprised at what else I do besides posting here at the Vindy.

Have a fine day 1phatdj.

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38allstar720(253 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I wish someone would offer me x in a bar. I must look like a cop or something because I never get offered any good drugs. Every decent club needs some dependable dealers.

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39punchdrunk3000(15 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I think the supporters of The Cell do a good enough job making themselves look like fools. I think it's funny that they think they will reopen on the 20th. Sorry buds... not gona happen.

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40dmets(575 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I must say everyone who sits in here and says they do not serve minors are out of there minds. Back a few years where I used to work, there were high school kids who used to go there all the time. One cause even though they were not even 18, they could get in, and two they were always served! Oh, and by the way they did not have fake ids. So I think the major problem is keep it 21 and over. Oh you do need someone at the door who knows how to let the difference between real and fake ids, and who is not afraid to tell someone to leave. The biggest problem with any bar in Youngstown is they do not respect the laws. Every and any bar should ALWAYS be 21 and over. So they should shut down any bar who can not follow the rules!I remember going to Pogo's back in college. They had some bartenders who did serve unders and some who never did. All I rememeber is them, anyone who worked there, letting everyone know when undercovers where in there. That is why I did not drink there til I was of age. I was the DD!

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41aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Stan already said it for me, but I'll say it for myself, too.

These people going to a bar multiple times a week aren't affecting me as of yet, but it's only a matter of time before it affects me or someone else. It's only a matter of time before they either kill someone or themselves as a result of driving drunk, or ending up in jail for a DUI. Because guess who's gonna ultimately be paying for them to stay in that cell? TAX PAYERS -- the contributing members of society.

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42punchdrunk3000(15 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I'd like to point out that they made their Myspace private and deleted a ton of photos, including many with underage drinkers and especially the drunk girl and cop as posted above by someone. A little too late I'd say... you already incriminated yourselves!

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43bluedevil5031(5 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

right on Phatty, now play some universal mind control for me lol!!!

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44CELLOVE(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

i been to the cell every weekend for the past 8 months i love goin there and it's the only place i go out to... i love the music and i love the atmosphere...i hope they reopen it...as many time as i've been there i've seen maybe 2 fights... yes underage come in but i'm sure they do it everywhere else.... i'm 24 yr's old... everywhere i've ever gone i've seen underage drinkers... every one has a good time at the cell and enjoys themselves. i took my boss there for the first time the weekend before it closed down... SHE HAD A BLAST!!!!!!!! and so did her daughter and her friend... the cell is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be... it's not bad at all... man F**K the bulls**t whoever says that the cell is bad for the community needs to walk into it themselves with an open mind and see how it will change your mind. and don't go in there thinkin it's a bad place go in there plannin on havin a good time then come out and tell me what you think as a matter of fact ill give you my number call me let me know!!!!!!
IT SHOULD BE REOPENED... AND I SO ORDER IT!!!! damn it!

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45Jebalina26(3 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I agree with those who say that all the bars in Ytown should be punished for underage drinking. But however I agree that the Cell should be closed down. The Cell has gone to craps since the new owners. The Cell knows they did wrong by supplying all these underage drinkers with alcohol. I know from personal experience. I can't tell you how many times when I was around 20 years old that the owner would throw back quite a few shots with me. He knew I was underage as a matter of fact, he told me to let him know when I was of age so I can bartend there. Needless to say I never did...and obviously glad I didn't.

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46softballmama(1 comment)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I want to thank The Cell for their continuous support and contributions for my daughter's softball team. I thank you for your generous support in 2007 for The Valley Sting and in 2008 for The Ohio Magic. In these tough economic times I know it's hard to solicit for activities such as this but year after year you give generously so that kids in the community can enjoy activities that they would not be able to do without the support from their community. I attempted to solicit from several other businesses in the area and many were economically unable to give and I understand this but what I don't understand is how a community can not look at the whole picture of a business. I also understand that you donated and contributed to the YSU softball team. When we look at something we should look at it collectively and honestly and paint a picture of it's full truth not just half of it. I don't patronize The Cell, I'm a 32 year old mother of two but they gave anyways no questions asked. I know that right now the economy is struggling and people in Youngstown are facing tough socioeconomic times and I will be saddened if we loose another business that actually not only payed taxes but helped the community.

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47boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Nino Brown gave out turkeys at thanksgiving(fictional, I know), John Gotti funded block parties and feast celebrations in his neighborhoods, The Madoff family established its charity in 1998 and since then have given multimillion-dollar donations to New York's big-league charities. Does that make up for breaking the law? I think not. Two different ballgames. The issue here is that a local watering hole is in trouble for serving to minors and is a known hangout to dealers and wanna be thugs. So they were shut down. Giving to charities and supporting the community is great. If they donated good for them, but does it make up for turning a blind eye to underage consumption and possibly bringing up the next generation of thieves and addicts/abusers?

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48aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

While you're at it, Softball... why don't you thank all of the 19 and 20 year old patrons of The Cell. Without them, The Cell might not have been able to donate to the softball team.

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49Drepster(13 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

According to the county auditor site the property was sold yesterday to WSP Inc. of the same address in North Jackson as the property owner in question. Probably nothing but it seems like a Y-townesque business move.

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50punchdrunk3000(15 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

That's what bars like Jay-Jay's do... keep changing the owner names around. If by some reason they do reopen on the 20th... let's take this to the state because this is redic.

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51Ceaman(54 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Why not prosecute and fine big time the people who served the drinks, without staff no bar.

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52so_what(2 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

...and i'm sure most of the fools commenting negatively on The Cell are people who dressed like thugs or actually caused trouble and weren't allowed back in? I'm sure these guys opened up a bar without any ill intentions..yet any bar that opens in youngstown faces the same future. I've seen them come and go...it really is a shame that business can't grow because someone gets a bug up their @##.

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53punchdrunk3000(15 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

to so _what.... there are plenty of bars that are law abiding that stay successful. cedars has been around for what, nearly 30 years, and they do a good job for a laid back bar. i go there a lot for shows and have seen many underagers thrown out.

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54Drepster(13 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Buffalo Wild Wings, Cedars, Draught House, Inner Circle all within that vicinity and all have survived the test of time thus far.

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55so_what(2 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I've been to cedars, bw3's and the others....they are completely different types of bars. 99% of normal college kids aren't going to want to dance and hang out in those types of places. I've been to the Cell a few times, I didn't see any crazy, insane or illegal activity....i'm older and I can honestly say it's not my sort of bar....but just because it's not doesn't mean I think it needs to be shut down.....i dislike to go to Cedars but I'm not going to come here and rag on the place....to each his own.

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56YSUgrad99(200 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

I've been in the The Cell a few times...let me tell you, its a dump! I haven't witnessed the underage drinking myself, but I don't doubt it, its loaded with kids obviously under the age of 21. I've also seen some of the fights and damage to peoples cars. The place is a bad apple due to some morons whose parents didn't teach them some common sense. I'd rather go to Rosetta Stone or Cedars anyway, better crowd.

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57boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

Well its the 20th, any news on the re opening? I didn't think so. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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58Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

A march of the masses on City Hall demanding the reopening may be the only hope. :)

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59boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 5 years, 8 months ago

They should let them re-open.....without a liquor license. See how many people come to hang out and listen to music without drinking. They would be closed again in a week...................

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