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Man shot, won’t name shooter



Published: Fri, February 20, 2009 @ 2:48 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — Jabbar Spires, 32, of Fairgreen Avenue was shot in the knee with a handgun after parking behind his house and knows who did it but wouldn’t tell police, reports show. Spires did tell officers when they arrived Thursday night that there had been an argument with another man but provided no name. He was taken to St. Elizabeth Health Center and told detectives would contact him. His condition was not immediately available.


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1redvert(2056 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Since this is more of the "no snitch crap" the cops should not waste our taxpayer money investigating any further. We are already no doubt paying for the hospital stay. Ignore it and let the situation take care of itself.

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2sistersun(49 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Hmmm...........He knows what's up,I know it don't sound right,but TRUST he will handle his business.

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3Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Being shot is a badge of honor in the ghetto. The shooter did him proud.

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4jrolley325(799 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

wow, pretty lame that vindy deletes stuff when people speak the truth.

you know he won't name the shooter because they want to take care of their own business.

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5computer_rick(137 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Well, he is either going to "take care of bidness his own self" or... He just doesn't want to turn in his brother, brother-in-law, father (take your pick) and they will all have a good laugh about it 'round Thanksgiving time...

"'member when you shot my butt off? ha! HA!"

"Yeah bro' I shot you good! ha! ha!"

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6worried(19 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

why tell who is was.....nothing is going to happen to him anyways, handle it on your own. We have 2 men charged with murder on house arrest. so what do you think they will do with this guy NOTHING! Handle it on your own.

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7XFilesX(77 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I work at a hospital. This happens all the time. No one knows who shot them. They fell on the knife themselves. They were innocently watching TV and someone broke in for no reason and beat them up. They were walking down the street minding their own business and someone shot them/beat them up. No one knows anything. This isn't the first time and won't be the last. Do they care about not cooperating with police or withholding evidence? No. The police aren't going to help anyway. I wish they could. But their hands are tied because of the courts. AND the rampant crime. It's a big merry-go-round that you can't get off.

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8Heard_it_all_before(62 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Remember when everyone got on Wellington's back when he publicly tried to get judges to stop the revolving door? It's still a revolving door. The problem with "taking care of business" is the collateral damage to innocent or uninvolved people. These things are just like the old hillbilly feuds - maybe if all of one or both sides are eliminated, there will be peace.

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9whatever_01(3 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Of course he doesnt know why this guy shot him .... whatever !!! he's hiding something to that's why he's not saying anything to the police he's probally on probation as well as the guy who shot him. This Jabbar guy who just got shot isnt he the same guy they were looking for couple years ago that the police wanted, and they had his pic all over the television screen, and finally found him at some house, and took him out of there ?! Not worth the time of day either one of the them.

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10DragonFly664(198 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

"Handle Your Own" which translates into, more people will die, and innocent people will get hurt, because you know none of them even know the first thing about handleing a firearm. I guess you dont want the killings to stop???

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11ads(109 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Maybe another 6 year old will get shot in the cross fire. If they want to kill each other, do it old western style. The more the better. Get the scum off our streets.

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12redvert(2056 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Dragonfly664, I see where you are coming from but how many of these unsolved shootings would be solved if the victims or witnesses would come forward. As I alluded to at the start of this thread, you can not help people that do not want to help themselves. Any guess on how many times during 2009 that you will see a grieving mother on the local news wailing that someone killed her baby!

And yes, some innocent bystander will get caught up in more than one of the shootings.

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13DragonFly664(198 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

redvert- I am not saying "dont tell" they need to get them off the streets, the sooner the better. They do not want to be helped, if they did they would do their best to help the police. Its some kind of stupid honor. I was robbed twice at gunpoint while working on the SouthSide, the second time there was gunfire, I dont think they ever caught them, (they made there way up and down Market st) No one wants to go over there anymore. Its sad for the business that are trying to stay afloat.

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14whatever_01(3 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I personally cant stand how people like this receive all this glory and honor over being shot. Then people are talking about ohhhhhh he is going to handle his business. End time is near and TRUST AND BELEIVE this everything that you have done will be addressed you never get away w/anything. These two guys come from the same pod they both are hiding something. I can almost bet they both have criminal records.

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15NilesResident(14 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Maybe he should be arrested for obstructing justice and see how he likes sitting in jail until he identifies the shooter. And while he's incarcerated, maybe he could join a work program to earn money to pay off his hospital bill, I'm sure that will be dropped on the taxpayer. He could pick up trash in the parking lot or some other menial task. I'm sure he doesn't want to work, so if he's in jail at night and forced to work during the day, he'll give the shooter up - just so he can go back to whatever he did before this incident.

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16ytownsteelman(627 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I just wish they would improve their aim!

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17JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

+1 to NilesResident. I'm with you.

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18aeparish(669 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

The guy probably did it himself but was too ashamed to say so.

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19VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

More than likely, it was a drug deal gone bad.

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20DragonFly664(198 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

You are sooooo correct Nilesresident!!!! But im sure someone, somewhere will say "we" are Infringing on his rights, which a crock of bull, they should be held accountable for their deeds. Im so tired of the lowlife Criminals getting away with what they do. Its like a medal on there chest to be in jail or to shoot or kill someone.

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21ads(109 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I am with NilesResident!!!!

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22AKAFR1(322 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Maybe the name of the shooeter should be one of the requirements if the taxpayer is going to pay
for the cost of treatment.

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23XFilesX(77 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Try being the nurses taking care of this person. The hospital management states that you have this person on POLICE HOLD. But the police department doesn't provide a police guard. You post a notice that NO VISITORS ALLOWED WITHOUT CHECKING IN AT NURSES STATION. But these are the types of people that don;t follow any types of rules (DUH) and just go in anyway. And their "homeys" come in and out in huge coats that easily hide drugs and guns. And the NURSES and NURSING STAFF are supposed to play police with them?? That's what management expects. And God forbid if we are told the shooter and/or his gang members are still looking for this shootee. How are we supposed to know who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?? And at discharge time, we have to "fib" to the patient until the police TAKE THEIR GOOD OLD TIME GETTING THERE to take them to jail. And don't think they and their homeys aren't on to us. So for safety purposes, when the nurses sign the discharge papers, we have to sign the papers very messy so they don't know our names. (retaliation for helping the police get them to jail) Plus while they are a patient, their visitors never leave, they are demanding and rude, they scare the hell out of the other patients, and they are abusive to staff. At least in jail, they nurses go with an officer to care for them. In the hospital, we are on our own. And then they bill never gets paid so we get notes on the wall about HOW TO CUT COSTS like skimping on things for the other patients or buying or own supplies that should be supplied by the hospital. And that doesn't touch on the circus that performs when the shootee arrives in the ER and his posse follows his there. The parking lot itself is a hangout of the worst of the worst. The ER staff is subjected to abuse and the other patients are scared to death. When there is shift change, the staff has to walk through the dregs of society to get to the safety of their cars. Don't say these people are "appreciative" of the service we perform and all that BS because we are just potential victims. It happens frequently at the hospital. It may not be reported in the paper, but it happens 1-2 times a week as it is and when this happens, it can increase.

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24med_01(4 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I definitely agree w/xfilesx. I mean try putting yourself in the nurses, doctors, and medical staff positions that has to provide care for people like this, and not to mention the crowds that they attract. You have "his boys" and his babies mothers (meaning mulitple more than one usually about 3 or more)I mean these girls go into the hospital one coming, oneleaving, and then afte the secoond one has left then here comes another. These girls are young in the mind, and you can see that they are clueless, and then some of these girls are at least 21 yrs & over you think they would have some sense, and start to realize with all the killings of the stories in Youngstown, and not to mention that alot of times the innocent children that they have end up dead or hurt. Thats who i feel sorry for. I mean come on ... GET A LIFE, AND GAIN SOME SENSE WHILE YOUR AT IT

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25DragonFly664(198 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

You mean you want them to actually go out and get a real job!!??? That is below them to actually work for there money. (said in Sarcasm)

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26wearepack(26 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

So, he has no job, has three babies' mommas, doesn't even want to work if he has a job, is above working for money, is a drug dealer, shoots/gets shot by his family members only to talk about it at Thanksgiving, and spells "business" like "bidness".

Could somebody point to the part in the article where ANY of this came from?

There were FOUR sentences in the article.

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27whatever_01(3 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Mainly that is the way it normally is. Why wont this individual cooperate w/the police ? Because again he has somthing to hide. To sum it all up dirt covers dirt. I mean this man said they had a arguement so what was it over ? They need to cover up one another to not expose themselves to the legal end. Sad to say but more than likely somebody will end up dead or both of them. Yes the article had only 4 statements, but you can read in between the lines, and you look around you and see it, and for those who have worked in the medical profession I'm pretty sure that they have seen things & have some idea what they are talking about, and you don't have to be in the medical field either to see it. Everyone can recognize and see it because its all around us.

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28antonunj(8 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

There are 2 possible reasons the man wouldn't identify the shooter 1) it was one of his family members or close friends and didn't want them to get in trouble and 2) he was doing something illegal, or being associated with people he shouldn't have been around in the first place. Therefore, he was implicating himself in some type of criminal behavior if he gave a statement to police. The "code of the streets" = no snitching

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