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Youngstown judges want city to pony up $25K for legal fight to get a new courthouse

Published: Mon, February 9, 2009 @ 7:22 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — The war of words over a new courthouse escalated today with municipal court judges accusing Mayor Jay Williams of stonewalling them on the facility.

It was a statement that offended the mayor.

“I take extreme exception to the characterization that this administration is stonewalling the judges,” Williams said. “I won’t sit here and be categorized as stonewalling judges. Nothing could be further from the truth.”

Nevertheless, Municipal Court Judges Elizabeth A. Kobly and Robert A. Douglas Jr. repeated the comment.

While Williams remained seated, he said the judges were “entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided and inaccurate it is.”

It was the latest — and most heated, at least in public — battle between the two sides over new court facilities.

The dispute occurred at a special city council finance committee meeting. The judges requested legislation allowing them to spend up to $25,000 to potentially use to sue the city for a new court facility. A decision was postponed.

It looks like that money is going to be put to use.

“Litigation is inevitable,” Judge Kobly said.

For the complete story, read Tuesday’s Vindicator or Vindy.com


1westsider2010(6 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

Build the courthouse -- at least it will get used unlike the other bad investments in the area.

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2aeparish(669 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

Please remind me again -- why do we need a new courthouse?

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3cavs1981(32 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

come one everyone, WE the tax payers will be building this courthouse so that THEY the criminals can have a nice place to be tried!! OH yeah not to mention that WE the tax payers are more then likely paying for the CRIMINALS to be tried!!! see how this works!!

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4HereToServe(39 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

This courthouse actually loses the city money and has more judges than needed.
Budget hearings are coming up and their location will be looked at very closely

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5boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

this is a joke right? the judges asked the city council for money to sue the city? I think its time we put up a wall around youngstown so the friggin loonies don't get out and infect the rest of us with whatever it is they have down there.....

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6apollo(1227 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

Local judges really need to be put in their place. They think they have ultimate power and can force bankrupt cities to pony up millions for new digs. The city can't even pay for the Chevy Center thanks to McKelvey. Or perhaps this a conspiracy between Williams and the judges to justify JEDDS?

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7aeparish(669 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

If the judges get to have a brand new courthouse built, I want a brand new city built.

Fair is fair.

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8boardmanneedschange(364 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

With all the stories of how youngstown is bleeding money, why would anyone in their right mind begin new projects? Here's an idea, when every criminal in youngstown is sentenced, add 25% more to their fine and put all that money into an account to build a new courthouse. oh by the way, good luck collecting the money......

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9wolfrun1(100 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

I would like to ask the Judges ..... How much money are you going to pony up for this needless building ? I bet not a thin dime . As I have stated before , Do your jobs , if you dont like the current working conditions , seek employment elsewhere !!!!!!

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10scrooge(563 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

NEWSFLASH to the judges.........OUR CITY IS BROKE!!
If the judges want new digs so badly to sit their overpaid tushes in they can pony up the $25K themselves!
And if they win the case where exactly are we supposed to come up with the money to pay for this?

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11baboo(43 comments)posted 7 years, 5 months ago

I have to side with mayor Williams on this one. What are these clowns thinking? As lawyers, they practiced in the courthouse for years. They knew the conditions then. If they were so bad, then they shouldn't have ran for judge.
These guys know that the city is in the dumps. Where do they want to take this money from? Perhaps they should try some creative sentencing like forcing criminals into a chain gang and renovating the courthouse. This will save taxpayers money.

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