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Anti-Obama spirit is afoot



Published: Wed, December 30, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

Anti-Obama spirit is afoot

EDITOR:

We are now in the month of December. Our 44th president has been on the job for almost one year. Nothing he says or does is without criticism. It’s like an anti-Obama spirit at work. We see this spirit in media talk show host and tea party activist. We saw it twice in September. Parents criticized the president for giving the children a back to school pep talk. A Republican legislator called the president a liar in the middle of a keynote address on health care. Criticisms of the president are so common that we have grown to expect them.

Whether Obama bowed too low to a Japanese emperor or why he shouldn’t have accepted the Nobel Prize for Peace on Dec. 10th should have been of little significance to most Americans. Obama was elected to help solve problems facing the nation and international communities, not bicker back and forth with anti-Obamanites.

In conclusion, when the historians begin to write, they won’t waste space dealing with how long he took to reveal his Afghanistan troop deployment plan. They won’t waste space writing about his dazzling oratory and writing skills. At the end of his presidency, historians will only want to know how far down the road the bus is that Bush drove into the ditch.

ALFRED SPENCER

Warren


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1L0L(640 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I disagree. I think they are going to write how a citizen of another country was elected to our country's highest position.

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2RFederer(116 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

The Bush years will go down in history as the worst 8 years ever as well they should. Worst recession since the great depression, housing collapse, stock market collapse, unemployment over 10%, near collapse of the financial system and the beginning of the government debt increase that will cause the dollar pressure and future inflation.

LOL still thinks Obama is a foreigner. One of the reasons America is in decline is these fruitcakes. (birthers)

People are still blaming Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, FDR, and pretty much every president in the last 100 years so blaming Bush isn't unusual.

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3CandyfromCanfield(172 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

It would have taken any president--Democrat or Republican--years to get us out of the myriad of Bush messes! Take the build up of troops in Afghanistan, for example. If Bush had made catching bin Laden and eliminating al Qaeda a priority instead of utilizing our country's resources against Iraq, we could have saved billions of dollars and thousands of American lives. How any American can justify Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq after 9/11 is beyond reason. (How's the search for those weapons of mass destruction going? Fools! ) I don't always agree with Obama's decisions, but it's unrealistic to expect him to solve all our nation's problems in one year.

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4Search4Answers(718 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Bush lined the bus up to go over a cliff, Obama hit the gas.

Already people are talking about how bad the current deficits are hurting us. Whether you were for the stimulus or not, facts are facts that the deficit is hurting us and will hurt us more in the future.

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5VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Search4answers makes a very good point. Deficit spending has never proven to be good for our country, but our President and Congress are using Bush's lame-duck era of quietly dissappearing as an excuse to out spend all the other Presidents combined. They are not even following the paths of Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton. They are blazing a new path of spending like a school kid who found a new credit card and took it to the mall. When the card maxes out, they vote in a new and higher credit limit! How responsible is that?

There is a price going to be paid for all this carelessness and, unfortunately, we WILL be around to see it happen and it ain't gonna be pretty.

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6thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Candy,
Let's step back a think for a minute on why going to Iraq was a necessary step in the war against terrorism. First and foremost, it rid that country's citizens of a dictator who extinguished hundreds of thousands of people via genocide. I guess that alone is not enough for us to remove a leader of a country and defeat his military?

Do you honestly believe that homicidal maniac did not have some form of chemical or biological weapons?

Your weapons of mass destruction argument is irrelevant with my next point. We needed an arena to draw Al Queda into, and Iraq served that purpose. You are seeing today why Afghanistan was not the ideal local(terrain and tribal warlords) to battle these scum bag terrorists.

In all of your infinite wisdom, how would you have tackled this situation? These radicals hate us and our way of life. Quite frankly, diplomacy with people who would just assume wipe us off the map is not a viable option.

The War on Terrorism is far from over, as you can see from the Detroit incident on Christmas Day. We need to support our troops and remind our lawmakers of the suffering and fright we all experienced on 09.11.2001!!

I am not a huge fan of many things brought about during the Bush years, but the military response was necessary to protect our country. If you do not realize that, then you are a lost cause. Even if Barry Obama decided to pull every last soldier out of the Middle East tomorrow, do you really think these radicals would disappear?

Happy New Year!!

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7thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Hey Alfred,
I hope Santa Claus brought you some Kleenex for those tears. What type of democracy would we live in if we cannot criticize "Our" President? I certainly did not see you making similiar posts during the Bush tenure when the Main Stream Media was pounding his every move.

Barry Obama is a big boy, and he made some pretty significant promises on the campaign trail, so it is time to live up to them. If you do not want the pressure and constructive criticism that come along with the title of President of the United States, then you have two options. Quit or do not make promises you cannot keep.

Afterall, you followers of change elected a college professor with some community organizing experience! Maybe next election cycle, you could choose a mall cop or carnival worker!! Enjoy the next 3 years...

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8cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

thepotstirrer....I would have to say that as far as comments posted this year that had no connection to reality USEless1/UnAmerican had the entire "Top Ten" covered. But on the last day of the year you stepped up your game and your comment on post #9 moved you to the top of the list. Congratulations.

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9steelerman09(111 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Why do you people come on to this site and argue back and forth about this stupid stuff. The fact of the matter is this....79% of the Vindy reading area voted for Obama. Did you think that he was going to come in and snap his fingers and everything would be fine? He is a socialist idiot, who will end up making Bush look good. I am a conservative and I didn't approve of Bush, but it doesn't matter WHO was the President over the past 8 years. They would've faced the same problems, due to 9/11, the Wars, etc. It doesn't matter WHO the president is...nobody is ever happy!

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10borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

RF, Do you listen to anybody but Olbermann? Worst recession since the Great Depression? Not even nearly as bad as the Carter recession. Not even close. Housing collapse= Chris Dodd,Barney Frank,ACORN. Stock market collapse= was better at the end than where Clinton left it ( Dow Jones ). The tech bubble was already bursting when Clinton left. Unemployment was at historically low numbers throughout the Bush years. Near collapse of our financial system? Everybody was getting money from these people, thru many administrations. Beginning of government debt? Obama flew into DC to encourage the passing of TARP then voted for it. Democrat congress since 2006, when things started to go down hill. Obama has broken just about every campaign promise he made, he lied to get elected. You ok with that?

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

American Presidents in the past bowed to no one . This is a bad precedent !

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12cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Stan the Man Unusual....A bad precedent! That's hilarious. Bush made out with the Saudi King and they both rushed off holding hands. You remember Bush don't you? He's the guy you voted for twice.

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13CandyfromCanfield(172 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

potstirrer, You're missing my point. We can't cut and run from Afghanistan at this point....I never suggested that. Of course a military response was warranted after 9/11...but our efforts were distracted in Iraq. Sadaam Hussein was a horrible, hideous dictator who gassed his own people....but he didn't train those 19 hijackers...al Qaeda did.

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14Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Cambridge, Cambridge , Cambridge , must I inform you again that Bush is history ? Obama is the man of the hour . I was beginning to think that he may have some pride in his job but I was wrong . American Presidents are not supposed to be subservient to foreign leaders . Perhaps he has an identity crisis ?

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15Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Well Quail Obama is doing us some serious harm right now by trying to destroy the coal industry and drastically raise electric rates . I can get over it if he is voted out in 2012 . For the sake of our nation we must never let someone like him resume the most powerful office in the world.

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16pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

It appears the wanna be "QUAIL' and "CAMBILGE" will get this guy back in office in 2012 after all. When illegals are legalized(20 mill or so) and their families allowed to move up to join them, it will greatly increase his ability to get relected. Nice political move.

PS. cant wait to help support the medical care for them too!

The Pit Bull

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17pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Quail,

If he doesnt try too, I will.

790 AM RADIO, yesturday, fill in for M savage.

Go to his web site if you like

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18hellsbells(116 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

USA 1,
Be a good follower and swallow every myth fed you by those who like living in an oligarchy. Let's continue to give those tax cuts so we can widen the Bush administration's historic gap between the wealthy and the rest of us.

After all, it's what you have inherited that counts, right? We could have had McCain as President so that his wife's inherited millions would be protected, and the military could be elevated even more than they now are. Before long, we could be Argentina.

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19L0L(640 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Here you go kool-aid drinkers.....
>>>VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking.
Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualifications to serve
as President. When reached for comment in London , where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Britain 's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as President.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

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20L0L(640 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Heres some more......
Subject: Issue of Passport?
While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981 at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities. 1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,or 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesian passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport. If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967. Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

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21Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

The only way to send that carpet bagger from Chicago packing is by the election of 2012 . When he leaves office Al Gore will give him a job working on global warming . He is doing a fine job in getting the people to dislike him . Obama is in high gear to raise electric rates and to destroy the coal industry . Coal fuels our steel industry and generates most of our electric .

DOCUMENTING GLOBAL WARMING IN AMERICA
http://image.weather.com/web/forecast...

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22cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

fulla_bull_marley....Obama will get reelected the same way he got elected int the first place. By forward thinking Americans that are sick of the GOP, the party of no and their backwards thinking voters.

Illegal immigrants had nothing to do with Obama getting elected and they won't be getting a vote anytime soon. Obama's stance on the illegals is the same as Bush's and McCain's and they all have it wrong. Until you eliminate the prospect of jobs by fining and jailing the employers the illegals will keep coming. Eliminate the job prospects and they won't.

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23pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

QUAIL,

White House prepares for immigration overhaul battle
The Obama administration is rallying allies to push for a package with better border security and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants now in the U.S. The effort is sure to be a tough sell.

By Peter Nicholas and Tom Hamburger

December 30, 2009

Reporting from Washington - With the healthcare battle still unfinished, the Obama administration has been laying plans to take up an issue that could prove even more divisive -- a major overhaul of the nation's immigration system.

Now go read the rest yourself...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-an...

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24pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Sorry QUAIL BIRD, but you can read it too.

this is for CAMBRIDGE

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25pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

So 12 mill illegals made citizens and that add all their little family members too. NICE!

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26greyhorse(36 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

L0L check out snopes.com - your Obama story is a hoax.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...

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27borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Cambecile, Once again, One and Done has broken just about every campaign promise that he made. He lied to get elected. Are you OK with this?

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28RFederer(116 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

You've really got to love the right wingers like borylie and others who can blame the Dems for Bush's 8 year failure. Worst economy since the depression, housing crash caused not by fannie and freddie and Dodd but because of unfettered mortgage backed securities usage and 30-40/1 leverage permitted by the Bush SEC in 2003. Worst terrorist attack on American soil. 2 wars. Mission Accomplished. Yellow cake. What a mess he left.

But borylie thinks it was the Dems and Dodd who couldn't pass gas because the Republicans controlled congress, the white house, and the supreme court.

Now, I'm not for massive debt that America is going to be saddled with but even most of that is the result of Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. I thought Republicans were the fiscally responsible party? As least that's what they claim.

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29pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Why cant the dems just admit he made false promise

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30borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

RF, you're a lost cause. Can you answer my question in posts 15 and 38? Are you OK with Obama lying to get elected? Can you compare the Carter recession to the current recession with facts or you just a typical dem/lib blowhard?

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31Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

cambridge :

"Obama will get reelected the same way he got elected int the first place. By forward thinking Americans"

Forward thinking Americans had nothing to do with getting Obama elected but will have everything to do with voting him out !

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32candystriper(575 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

There was zero net job creation in the first decade of the new millennium, compared to helthy job growth in each of the previous six decades.

Washington Post

Do you really think anyone deserves re-elected?

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33RFederer(116 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

borylie, you do know that it's not the president who initiates legislation? Didn't Bush promise to end abortion? Candidates make promises all the time that they then can't deliver on. Obama is doing the best that he can under very difficult circumstances not of his own doing. He will get reelected in 2012 also. Who do the Republicans have that can beat him? Palin? Jindal? That's the best you can propose?

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34borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

RF, I have to quit wasting my time on you. You're clueless. What the the heck does legislation have to do with the following: ( pay attention ) : 1. There will be no lobbyists in my administration. He's broken that promise by giving "waivers". 2. All legilation will be televised on CSPAN, so there is no back room dealing. Never happened. 3. There will be no pork in the bills. When they come across my desk I'll go line by line and scratch them off. Never happened. 4. Along the same line, regarding military spending. If it does not benefit the soldiers I will not allow one cent to go to any pork. He signed off last week with 2500 pork projects and 4.5 billion $ in the bill. 5. I will close Gitmo by Jan. 2010. Still open. 6. All legislation will be posted for 5 days online for all to see before I sign it. Never happened. I can go on, but I'm wasting my time on somebody trying to be relevant on a subject you know nothing but how to blame Bush and republicans. And no Bush never promised to end abortion. Quit making things up. One and Done lied and you're OK with it.

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35cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Stan the Man Unusual...."Forward thinking Americans had nothing to do with getting Obama elected but will have everything to do with voting him out."

Feel free to provide a list of those who you think can beat him in the 2012 election. I could use a good laugh.

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36borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Cambecile, I'll put my 2 cents in. Two easy choices to beat One and Done also known as the big liar would be Pawlenty and Romney. The dem/libs are most afraid of Palin. Why else all the angst against her?

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37Search4Answers(718 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I think Palin's an idiot. I would never vote for her.

I had high hopes for Jindal from Louisiana becoming something but he faded away.

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38cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

bor-Y-lie....Afraid of Palin. Paleeez! I promise you that if my prayers to Baby Jesus are answered and that stupid hick runs I will donate to her campaign fund. It would be a dream come true.

In a poll after the 2008 election among the GOP heavy weights Pawlenty got 1% of the votes. In that same poll Mitt the twit came in third behind Palin and Huckleberry. The guy has been rejected so many times he's like the ugly girl at the dance.

Palin /Traficant 2012

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39JD010101(137 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Were Obama's words "JUST WORDS". Uuuh, yea it looks like that. He's a young kid with no experience except community organizer that tried to cave to the world to get them to like us in 2009. Gee we see how the new no waterboarding policies got us with the Christmas Airline Attack attempt. He's a lame duck after his first 10 months. What a liar and what a joke he is. Lets have a look every month at who visits the White House. Two weeks before the lid popped off the Acorn deal. The Acorn head visits the White House. Coincidence, I think not. Wake up America!

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40pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

JD,

America is waking up and we will only cont to escalate as he leads this country. Let him cont to bury himself. He can cont to alter health care and next we await illegals. I like the phrase "one and done."

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41tkytown(43 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I was hopeful Obama would make a difference and he has in some areas, but recent decisons (closing Gitmo and bringing 9/11 trials to New York city) has caused me to question his wisdom and decision making. He needs better advisors and cabinet members advising him.

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42AXLE69(181 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Just a heads up for you rational people on here.Arguing with someone like usa1-pro-conservaterican is fun but dont expect any sensible replies from the irrational.I do get a kick out of thinking about him blogging with his teabaggers about birth certificates and how they are going to take back the guvmint.Priceless.It`s too bad they don`t allow a webcam on here so we could witness usa1-pro-conservaterican in action,all frothing at the mouth,Fox blasting in the background,his handgun next to him in case any socialists come to his door.The best part is that President Obama has at least 3 and hopefully 4 more years after that to keep usa-1 very busy at his sweaty keyboard.lol

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43cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

AXLE69.....If you really want to laugh checkout the link below. They are to the Cleveland Teabaggers which is what USEless1 belongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUsBvk...

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44cambridge(2958 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

USEless1....I have never said how many teabaggers showed up in DC. If you disagree, produce the post where I gave a figure. All I have ever done is produce link after link from reputable news organizations that said their were "10's of thousands" which would be less than 100,000 and less than the 2.1 million you claimed. The link below is how Fox News Network reported it. Since it was their party I guess they might know.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/...

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45pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publi...

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46pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-w...

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47pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Let the president cont to bury himself.
One and done.
Good luck keeping those seats in Nov. too.

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48pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

This one is the best by far...

http://hitsusa.com/blog/471/obama-lov...

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49candystriper(575 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

According to the International Monetary Fund, the United States began the century producing 32 percent of the world's gross domestic product. We ended the decade producing 24 percent. No nation in modern history, save for the Soviet Union, has seen so preciptous a decline in relative power in a single decade.

Humanevents.com

Vote every incumbent out. We are doomed to failure because ultimately they voted us into bankruptcy.

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50pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wheres QUAIL BIRD?
His/our president has an illegal immagration agenda. Am I a liar? Am I miss reading the facts? Are you unable to admit you dont like some of his ideas? Or do you like them all?

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51borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

This just in from GOP headquarters. Seeing the success One and Done has had so far and noticing his style on the campaign trail, the GOP has been searching for a clone except it has to be a republican. Unfortunately they say, they cannot find a narcissist who lies about everything, has no experience at all, is a sycophant ( No Quail, that's not a crazy elephant ) and has an advanced degree in telepromptry. The chances of finding such a person to represent the GOP is extremely minimal the report states. By the way Quail, To name a few of your idols that have angst, how about Maddow, Olbermann and David Letterman. Night after night.

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52RobertH(50 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Posted by paulb : "Can we really believe he wasn't doing hard drugs and having sex with a male escort?"

Jeez, paulb , you really should get over this, Shrubs been out of office about a year now.

LMAO!!!

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53AXLE69(181 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

usa1-pro-conservaterican,hypocritical conservatives like yourself are the last thing on earth I fear.It`s because of you and your cabal of wingnuts that there is zero chance that the Republicans will regain power either in Ohio or nationally in the future.This is great news.Every time you post your drivel on here,write your letters to the editor,have your wingnut teabaggerapaloozas or call the talk shows,you show the rational thinking voters out there just how far off the reservation you have traveled.Why do you think I spend my valuable time writing about you? Because it just proves my points.Why don`t you post your birth certificate on here usa1-pro-conservaterican? For all we know,YOU may not even be an American citizen,unlike your President who most assuredly is.Who are you trying to fool usa1-pro-conservaterican.You already changed your username on here from Pro-American either because you were banned by the Vindicator or you were trying to hide from your critics because you couldn`t handle your idiocy being exposed.So why should anyone believe anything you post anyway? You are the typical conservative,repeating the same garbage over and over again but never proposing anything to counter what you are criticizing,that`s just one reason why your Republican party has approval ratings even below the wingnut teebaggers.I have to laugh when you keep posting the Presidents approval rating.Do you know what other recent President had a 49% approval rating after the first year in office? It was your hero Ronald Wilson Reagan.Lol.You think he was the greatest President since George Washington so I don`t think Obama has anything to worry about in 2012.Keep writing usa1,you`re playing right into my hands.hahahaha.See you at the next Tri-County TeaParty gathering.I`ll be the one with the big smile on my face.

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54SkyKing310B(253 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!


Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.


2. No Tenure / No Pension:

A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.


3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work.


4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.


5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.


6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.


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55borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Bird, Oh for the good ol days of doing nothing. One and Done is doing too much, too quick and too bad for all of us. Even though you demo/libs hate to admit it, after 9/11 President Bush became a strong,courageous leader who took no crap and as a result we were not attacked in the next 7.5 years. Unlike like the three trial balloons that have happened so far.

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56borylie(768 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

paulb, you're normally a fair minded poster and I agree with some of your assessments in your #76 post. But there is a world of difference between the two. Obviously I support Pres. Bush and despise One and Done, but I really believe Pres. Bush really cared about the folks and let himself get clobbered in the polls because he had class and didn't deflect the blame, no matter what the accusation. One and Done is all about his view of the world as he has been trained since childhood, thus he's not looking out for all the folks. He wants to change the greatest country that ever existed to something closer to his ideology. Bush never made the kind of and as many of the campaign promises to get elected as One and Done has then ignore those promises. One and Done flat out lied to get elected and this should trouble everybody. What the h--- can we base our votes on, but what these people say?

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57aspin444(24 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Al:
Just can't agree with you on this one, and you are entittled to your own opinion. Time will tell all....

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58redheadgrandma(13 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

The sad thing about Obama is that I believe that the people behind him don't care a bit about him. He is a handpicked "suit" and being run by the people behind him. Without his teleprompter he is nothing. The other sad thing is that students in colleges are being programmed by their political science professors to forget the Contitution and to think that the Socialist-Progressive-Communist ideas are ideal. I believe we will survive this period in our history, but it will be a long 3 more years.

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59VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

This will create some good comments.

The reason Hillary Clinton took the job of Sec. of State is so she can run for Pres. against Obama in the next election if Obama stumbles. If she had taken the job of V.P., she would have been on the same ticket with Obama.

Will we see Clinton vs. Palin in 2012?

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60Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

If Palin makes a presidential run in 2012 with success, I would be surprised. She would make a much better Party person than a candidate, and certainly would do a phenomenal job at fundraising. No disrespect to Palin, but I don't think she'd have a chance.

As far as Obama's legacy, it is too early to tell. It is too early to make a determination of Bush's legacy.

People forget Truman was one of the worst presidents of his time given his poor approval ratings, but now sixty years into the present he is championed by the Democrats. People forget when he was in office he was very unpopular. You can say all day long Bush is too unpopular to ever be considered a good president, but it has happened before.

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61Juliana(2 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

LOL, please verify comments through Snopes before posting them. Case in point: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/....

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