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Landlords object to plan for fees

Published: Thu, December 17, 2009 @ 12:03 a.m.

By Jeanne Starmack

CAMPBELL — Mayor George Krinos’ plan to fund a homeownership program by charging registration fees on rental units came under fire from landlords Wednesday.

Krinos’ attempt to hire a new finance director was also met with a less-than-enthusiastic reception by council, which did not make a motion on his recommendation to hire Edwin Torres, a Campbell resident who works as a financial adviser for Wachovia Securities.

Krinos’ attempt to hire a grants writer fared a little better. Council advanced a resolution allowing him to research the position to a second reading. The resolution does not create the position, however. Krinos has said a grants writer is critical to pulling the city out of its dire financial straits. It is facing a $465,000 deficit by the end of next year.

Landlords came to Wednesday’s council meeting to protest the way Krinos plans to fund the home-ownership program. He said he wants to charge a registration fee of $1,000 per rental unit per year, with 20 percent of those funds going toward loans for down payments for homes. The loan amounts vary for married and single people and according to income. The loans would be deferred for 10 years, and would then convert to grants that wouldn’t require repayment. If the homeowner moves away before the 10 years are up, the loan would have to be repaid.

But landlords told council and Krinos that the fee would be a hardship.

The proposal is pending for consideration by council’s legislative and finance committee.

Krinos said the rest of the money generated by the fees would go into the general fund as a way to help reduce the projected deficit. He expects the fees to generate $975,000.

Sherry DeMar of DeMar Realty Inc. said properties in the city don’t bring high rents. She said a $20,000 house typically nets only $400 a month.

Police Detective Sgt. John Rusnak said that 45 percent to 50 percent of police-call volume “goes to the $400-a-month rental houses.”

But other landlords talked of renovating houses that were once eyesores and renting them to working families who pay taxes and take care of their homes.

Roseann Ehrhart, speaking for Gary M. Crim Inc., said that company pays $27,449 in annual taxes for its Campbell properties.

Krinos, who tried to replace financial director Sherman Miles on the eve of his taking over as mayor Dec. 1, asked for explanations from council as to why it did not move on his recommendation for Torres.

Council members answered that education listed on Miles’ r sum and letters of recommendations from Youngstown State University professors were impressive. He has degrees in accounting, finance, political science and law. Torres has a bachelor of science in business administration from YSU and is in the MBA program there.

Krinos said he has confidence in Torres as “a financial adviser who comes up with new ideas every day to make clients more money.”

Council member Juanita Rich called Torres “a good guy” but said his qualifications don’t compare to Miles’. “I have confidence in the job Miles is doing,” she said. “We as a council have to have confidence in the person who’s sitting in that position.”

Council turned down a request for a zone change so a gun repair shop could open at a Robinson Road address.


1jhenry18(1 comment)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

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2MsVickey92570(18 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

It is very sad that Campbell has so many vacant houses that are just sitting around empty. Yes I know that Campbell is not alone, and other houses are sitting vacant also, but Campbell does have a lot. Something should be done about them and soon I hope. And can someone answer me why so many houses that have been set on fire???

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3gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

It is a brilliant idea to charge the rental properties. It is a business that needs to pay something back to the city like any other business. Shame on certain rental property owners that cry financial hardships when they have more money than the President and condos and etc. It's time to give something back to this city since you have reaped the benefits of it for years !! I told you strap down for changes. You can't always be a taker !! IT'S TIME TO GIVE !!

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4gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

P.S. The people that cry the blues are also delinquent tax payers of Campbell !! Thank you very much !!

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5Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

" He said he wants to charge a registration fee of $1,000 per rental unit per year"

Why not just confiscate the rental units and give them away ? Mayor George Krinos may very well have a communist agenda .

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6gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Stan all of your comments lack intelligence !! All the years they made money on their rentals,I think they can afford to give something back. And when you own a business in a city you have to pay taxes back. Well these rentals are a business, they are a money making entity. GO BACK TO SLEEP !!

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7Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


"Stan all of your comments lack intelligence !! "

Perhaps you would like to pay an extra grand a year on top of your taxes ? Oh so you rent and hate landlords !

Plenty of taxes and expenses exist in the rental business besides the deadbeats who don't pay their rent . YOU ARE CLUELESS !

The commie party is alive and well in Campbell !

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8gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Typical Republican !! TIGHT WAD !! Glad you moved. Another chicken runs !! The mob has been gone for years !! But when they were there CAMPBELL THRIVED AND DID NOT HAVE ANY FINANCIAL OR SECURITY PROBLEMS !! MOB COME BACK !!

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


"The mob has been gone for years !!"

You must be from another universe !

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10gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If I owned rentals in campbell I would def. pay. What's right is right !! No kidding the mob has been gone for years !! That was my point !! Bring them back and order too !! People fear the new mayor ! Why? Could it be he has outstanding ideas that might actually ? !! Could it be he is there for the people and not his pocket ? Hmmmmmmmm ?!

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

"No kidding the mob has been gone for years !! "

When did they leave ? This morning ?

Commienism isn't even good for the commies . In time the sources for their wealth confiscation run dry . When the host dies the parasite perishes !

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12gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Learn to talk and spell then comment. Like I said lack of intelligence. And let's hope your right, the host is gone and now waiting for the parasites to perish !! :)

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13Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

So the commie doesn't like my spelling of commienism ? Total disrespect to your cause ! Right ? The commies always have been the parasites . The hosts are targeted for their wealth . Free housing only has value until repairs are needed . Look at the ones rotting down in Campbell .

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14gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Listen, I do work and I work hard at my job. I AM also that small percent that carries the city of Campbell and pays taxes. Also I would pass a levy and raise my taxes for the good of the city. But the slumlords need to be taxed at a higher bar. The crooks of Campbell feel threatened by GEORGE KRINOS because there are no more treats on the side. Watch the city counsel fight him tooth and nail. Because after 10 years with the same mayor things progressively got worse. They can all move to your towns. YOU CAN HAVE THEM !!

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15theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I told you guys that this Mayor will run the city into the ground.

No idea on what he is doing. Before the election I heard he was telling people that the city had a million dollar caryover now he says its going to be a 465,000 deficit by the end of 2010. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MILLION DOLLAR CARYOVER?

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16cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Foxtrot, your right Gary M. Crim Inc. owes about 10,000.00 in delinquent taxes for his properties.
Jhenry18, good luck. I wish you the best with your problem.
MsVickey95270, what Mayor Krinos is trying to do is to help fill those homes with permanent residents who will take pride in the city, their home, and help by being productive citizens.
Gleekgal, I couldn’t agree with you enough on all of your comments.
Stan, I don’t think you have a clue on anything. “A communist agenda”? You’re insane !!!!!!!!!!!!
USA1, boy do I have a few things to say to you. 50% of all of the crime in the city is coming from these rental properties. Mayor Krinos is not doing this to hurt anyone. He is using an ingenious way to help the police force who is understaffed, overworked, as he said in the council meetings (if you ever have gone) he wants to help people buy a home. Most people who rent, do so because they can’t afford a down payment. Well, this will be a way to help them.
Also, if the landlord defaults, it is put on their property taxes. DAH.
I go to almost every council meeting and what you may not know is that one of the landlords who came to speak against this issue was Sherri Demar crying the blues about how broke landlords are, then leaves the council meetings in her $90,000.00 Mercedes Benz. I asked the police department to run some reports on one of her properties she owns. This particular property has had more police calls than any other in the city. So BOOO HOOO to her.
If you ever go to any council meetings, you would have heard the Mayor say this affects his Father-in-law, his wife’s grandmother and uncle, his cousins, and even himself who all have rental property and will also have to pay this fee.
Oh yea, USA1, of course Jack Dill, (no longer mayor Dill) wouldn’t have done this as you think. He wasn’t greedy enough, right? Maybe it’s because his son owns multiple rental properties in Campbell? hmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the council people would step up and do their job and back the mayor, this would be great for the city. This would cause all of our property values to go up, and even those landlords’ rental properties would be worth more so they can rent them out for more.
For all who don’t know this, the Mayor said he wants a new finance director because of the fact a member of council plans to run for mayor in the next election, and Sherman Miles who is the current finance director, was her campaign manager and is one of her closest friends.
They all have personal agendas. It’s time they get their heads out of their rear and do what’s best for the city. The city is a business and offers goods and services. If you don’t want the goods and services, then don’t do business with the city.

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17cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Hey "THE WORD" I guess you dont have a clue either. The carry over was 2.5 million, what Mayor Krinos said was that the city is spending 465,000 more then what it is bringing in. Thats called a deficit=NEGATIVE SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was all done by the previous mayor and council, they put the city on track to run it into the ground.

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18candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

can real estate save the town...

the value of your collateral depends on the productive capacity of people who want to live there-own or pay rent, real estate doesn't produce anything of value on its own...

the sensitive will solve exactly what problems and create what economic value with this...

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19Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


"Stan, I don’t think you have a clue on anything."

If that was the case then I would be in your weak mental state and support the commie agenda .

Mayor Krinos needs to be run out of office ! The landlords already lose plenty to deadbeat tenants who don't pay . To pay the mayor an extra grand per year on top of property taxes, income taxes,mortage payments, insurance and repairs wont be tolerated !

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20cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Apparently you must be a landlord, sounds like you dont do any background checks before you rent so you are a part of the problem. You must be on heck of a business person, HA......

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21cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


I was reading you blog but the last part didn't make any sense to me.

"the sensitive will solve exactly what problems and create what economic value with this..."


From your comments I also believe you do not go to council meetings, do you even live in the city, also if you do try coming to a meeting and look at the support Mayor Krinos has from all of the citizens. Again, You don't have a clue!!!!

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22Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

cmhs68 :

You are a deadbeat looking for a free ride on others earnings ! GET A LIFE ! GET A JOB !

Have you looked into public housing ? You would fit in at the projects !

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23cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If I am a deadbeat looking for a free ride maybe you can rent me one of your places. I am sure that you don't even live in the city now and you are a landlord.
If you must know I have an excellent job, beautiful home, and I am a resident of Campbell.

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24cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Well you can tell you have no idea what is going on in Campbell from your high status in Canfield.
The majority of Mayor Krinos' support is the working class which I am part of. We are extremely fed up with what the previous mayor and council has done to our city. We wanted change, we voted Mayor Krinos in. Also the other majority of his supporters are those people who are retired that have been born and raised in Campbell and lived here their entire life. They are tired of being scared to go outside becuase of the crime and drugs that have come about from the city being over ran with people that are non productive citizens that do not have a care in the world and a majority of these people are renters.
You have to be one of the least educated people in what is really going on in our city so just stay where you are. WE WANT OUR CITY BACK SO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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25Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


"If you must know I have an excellent job, beautiful home, and I am a resident of Campbell."

Then tell the mayor that you wish to pay an extra grand a year for the privilege of being a resident of Campbell.

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26cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

First off if you dont want to pay the fee then sell your rentals and get out. I said earlier the city is a business that offers goods and services if ya dont want them then leave.
Also becuase you dont go to any council meetings you are CLUELESS, council wants to raise the residents taxes and If it saves our city I am all for it. So with my income I will be paying an extra 1000.00 per year if not more.
Why dont you get educated before you make another foolish comment as gleekgal had said.

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27corky(5 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

$1K annual registration fee? Granted, I am an outsider looking in, but if I were a landlord and I had to pay another $1000/year, my rent just went up $100/month to cover my fee. I could not imagine it to be any other way. The mayor may want to rethink this proposal.

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28Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


"council wants to raise the residents taxes and If it saves our city I am all for it."

The mayor should have his salary doubled also then.

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29candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

well, maybe $1,000 fees on lawn care can keep values up even without factories or economic value near...

... nothing will change you still have people who own/rent homes in areas with no net industrial production...net household formations won't increase but maybe the inventory will decrease as ignorant or careless or broke homeowners fail to maintain the home ...replacement costs become unbearable for those on fixed incomes due to tax increases...

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30gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Instead of incouraging words all we hear about is negativity. If we are willing to have our taxes raised and do what is necessary then counsel needs to support OUR NEW MAYOR and his awesome ideas and get the job done ! People on the outside are afraid of the power house Campbell could be with the right hearts. Not with greedy self indulging turds. LOOK OUT !! EVERY RAT COMES OUT OF THE HOLE FOR AIR !! AND IT WILL BE ACLEAN SWEEP !!

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31Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Right now the rats want a grand a month above property taxes, income taxes and expenses for each rental . Things were much better when the mob was content to sell dope, loanshark and run numbers .

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32gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


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33theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If the carryover was over 2 million dollars where is the money now? I dont see any more employees hired. I dont see any new roads being paved. so where is the 2 million dollar caryover he speaks of

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34Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

gleekgal :

Only a parasite would want to prey on a host . When the host can no longer survive the PARASITE PERISHES !


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35Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Would it be politically correct to tax prostitution and drug dealers in Campbell a thousand dollars a year and also pay income taxes on their money ?

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36theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

all the tax will do is have already low income renters move out of the city because the landlords will pass the tax onto their rent. Lets face it have you seen the apartments or homes in the city that are being rented out and the kida of people that rent them? Even officer rusnik said that 45 - 50 % of the calls they answer come from these types of homes

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37Renter(1 comment)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

It is highly offensive that all of you write as if all tenants are low income, criminal-minded people. Homeownership is not attainable to many residents for many different reasons. Just because someone chooses to rent v/s own, doesn't make them a second class citizen! This fee will not solve any problems in the city. It will drive good landlords out of business and drive good tenants from their homes. This city will loose all around. If bad tenants are the problem, then the police and judges should do a better job. If a person is committing a crime and the police are called, and charges are filed, than the judges should impose stricter penalties and/or jail time. That is how you clean up crime. A $1,000 fee on rental properties and a $85/month increase on renters will not clean up the city!

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38theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Detective Sgt. John Rusnak "said that 45 percent to 50 percent of police-call volume “goes to the $400-a-month rental houses"

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39theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I'd ask the police department where rusnak got his figures from

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40candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

This is what happens when you sign your name to a 30 year bond...
Didn't see it coming, huh? ... Trapped living next door to an eyesore...can't sell...can't walk away because the bank will hound you for 20 years...the American dream of owning a home is a scam.

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41cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

USA1 and STAN grow up! How dare you ever insult those kids on the football team, they give it their best. This has nothing do to with them. YOU two are nothing shy of being total jerks.
You seem to want to be superior and you are doing this by insulting our kids.

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42cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

THE WORD if you live in Campbell I'm gonna encourage you to attend the council meetings and you can ask these questions to Srgt Rusnak like I did. Those figures are based upon the total number of call in comparison to the call being to a rental or a home owner. All of which are single family dwellings

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43cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Also the city spends about 8million a year to run with the staff it currently has, it is only going to bring in 7.5million in revenue. The difference has to come from the carry over so using simple math the 500k has to come from the 2million carry over. If you keep doing the math like Mayor Krinos said the city will be broke and out of any carry over in the next 5yrs. How can you create new jobs or even fix things. This was all done and put in to motion by Jack Dill, this isnt the first time the city is using the money from the carryover to pay its bills.

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44cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If you go to council meetings Mayor Krinos said this is to help promote home ownership. A portion of the money is to go to that so yes I'd say the goal is to get the low income renter to move out, let the landlord get a higher class tenent or sell the place. WE SUPPORT HIM AND WE WANT OUR CITY BACK!!!!!!

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45cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Dont you make your money from living off of someone else???? Especially if your landlords and rent to these low income homes. I'd have to say gleekgal hit it right on the head. DEAL WITH IT!

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46cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Also if you were up to date on what is going on you would know that Jack Dill claimed he closed down the "projects", this is so far from the truth. At the last council meeting Mayor Krinos said he spoke with the people who own the "projects" or really YMHA, Youngstown Metropolitan Housing Authority. There is only 30 people living in the YMHA homes so how many police calls really are from the "projects" The only reason they are vacant is from the landlords buying all the forclosed homes and the people who lived in them wanted to rent a house instead of an apartment. YMHA plans to move more people in their. SO lets think, hmmmm, the low income is already spread in the city with people moving into the houses, and we are at a 45 % police call volume now, how bad do you think its going to be when YMHA starts to reopen the "projects". YMHA is federal the city has no control over it or the property!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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47cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

One last thing, only 6% of the total property taxes paid goes to the city. SO if a landlord has a 15000 dollar home they are renting out at the current county tax rate thats only about $18.00 to the city. Do you still want to say they are already paying a high tax when they can make 500 per month or 6k annually from a 15k investment. After 2 1/2yrs they made their money back and its all profit for them so why should they care who they rent to or what it looks like.

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48cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Well do what you have to do then. I really don't care. You don't live here, you left and really should have no opinion on this matter unless it affects you as a landlord or a tenant. From your previous blogs you do not live her so you are not a tenant, then you must be a landlord. Sell your properties and go. If the city is only making 6% of your total property taxes you as a landlord shouldn't even really voice your opinion at all.
You Moved, You have Taken. We want it back!

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49cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Ohh yea, I almost forgot, you are going to make fun of those kids and then try to tell us what we should do. Campbell has produced more Doctors, Lawyers, Succesful Business Owners, and hard working people per capita then any other city in the valley. I do believe Canfield is know for it kids on meth and other hard core drugs. How about you worry about your own, again you left. SO stay out!!!!!

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50theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


How does the police department know when they arrive at a house if its being rented or owned by the people living there? Do they ask? Sir for our stats do you rent or own. This is a total lie they have no way of knowing whats being rented or owned

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51cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Thats a great question and I asked the same thing to Srgt Rusnak. The software they use actually cross ref the water bill with the property owners name. It then denotes if it is a rental or an occupied home owner. The water bill is in the tenants name. The tenent has to come down to city hall to get the water turned on in their name. If 1/3 of the city is tracked this way it makes me wonder how many more properties have the water in the landlords name that they don't even know about.

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52cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I am more then happy to stay out of Canfield and from your discription of Campbell you must be a landlord to know so many details such as the street lights. How about this, you stop renting to those "deadbeats" you refer to or "welfare mamas" who do not pay anything in income tax which is really where the city makes its money. Maybe the police would be able to do their job instead of chasing your tenants around. Also there are alot of those Docs, layers, and business people still here. Dont know if you know this but we have more millionaires per capita then boardman or canfield. This is a proud community of hard working citizens and I wouldn't change the work ethic our families have learned over the years.
SO take care of your dopers and we will keep making the millionaires, maybe if you stop renting to "deadbeats" or "welfare mamas" they would stay here.

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53theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If the mayor wants to save money then why don't he get rid of the Fire and Police departments? He could contract out to Coitsville for fire protection and the Sheriff's department for police services. This would save the city around 1.8 million dollars a year!!

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54theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Name me 5 millonaires from Campbell

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55cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

WOW for you not knowing about the carryover you sure know the numbers about the police and fire you sound just like Jack Dill. I keep telling you to go to council meetings and get educated. There is alot to learn, if you got rid of the police and fire Im sure we would loose alot more residents, our homeowners insurance would skyrocket, your car insurance is also based upon where you live so that would go up. Actually it would ruin and devistate the city. How could you even suggest that if you care about your own personal safty. Would you trust a police officer who was volunter to protect your family, how would you know if they just werent happy to have a gun on their hip. Also with the fire department if your home cuaght on fire would you want a person who isnt getting paid to rescue your family. I dont think that person would even come into the house to save you if it cambe down between your life or theirs. Really give it some thought. As for the Sheriffs, well go talk to the Commissioners they are laying the sherriffs off left and right, they cant spare anyone to help us. Srgt Rusnak said they cant even send someone to come pick up an inmate who the Campbell police might have cuaght. How safe would you feel.

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56theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

The sheriff's departments is contracted out by Canfield Twp which has a poupolation of about 15,000, a far cry from the 7500 people that live in campbell if its that much. All of the deputies are full time not volunteers. I think the citizens would want that with all of the corruption the pd has had. and no your car insurance would not go up. stop lying

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57cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I would love to amuse you by naming 5millionairs, just drive in the pinoaks, there is about 12 there. Also drive around robinson rd, there is about another 5-10, Also go drive around creed circle, almost every other person there is a millionaire, so that is about what 40????? The net worth of the people I know of is well over 100million and that is only 3 people. 2 in the pinaoks and 1 on robinson rd. Heck one of the landlords in campbell makes over 1 million a month. Have you looked around.

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58theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

if there is soo many millionairs why is the city broke? they should be raking in the money from these millionaires. HA HA but the city can barley pay their 40 employees every two weeks. Get a life campbell is broke and so are the residence.

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59candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

police to wear head mounted cameras


ask the nickel dime millionaires to buy these for the force...sell the video to COPS...

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60theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Or you can sell the video to the FEDS

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61RealEstateMan(1 comment)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I'm a successful Realtor & real estate investor. 99% of my full time job is devoted towards rentals and investments. The new mayor, I'm sure, has good intentions... unfortunately like most politicians he is not informed enough and fails to see the consequences should his plan come about. It would quickly turn the real estate market in Campbell from bad to worse and he doesn't realize it!

I'll explain: taxing $1,000 per unit per year is unheard of. If someone owned a triplex (3 units), then under this plan they would owe $3,000 EVERY YEAR. Parts of Campbell where investors buy have low priced properties. I have sold triplexes for as little as $20,000. So, if the poor guy who buys that triplex has to pay $3,000 every year he's paying the equivalent of 6% of the value of his property annually! That's on top of the 25 - 33% he's taxed by the state & federal govn't for any income he receives.

Believe me, the great majority of landlords only make a small profit if they rent. I have several properties in this area where I see less than $1,000 profit each year. Now... taxing an absurd amount annually will kill any chance at profit. Then what happens? Think about it, it's easy. No new investors buy in Campbell which = more vacant homes not getting repaired which = lower home prices with declines going down faster. It also means that people who own investments there all immediately put their properties up for sale so they can go buy rentals right next door in Struthers, Liberty, Youngstown, etc. where they won't be taxed. More homes dumped onto the market at once means deflated values. As values drop and less people own tax revenue drops sharply as well. Remember it's property values that we're taxed on.

So, does charging an outrageous amount every year sound smart? The mayor should have been thorough and consulted professionals who know what they're talking about. His heart may be in the right place, but running a city is complicated and there are no easy fixes.

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62theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

According to him and his people, charging the $1,000 per unit will increase property values.

Your right he does not now how to run a city and he will run it to the ground in two years if not sooner

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63Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

cmhs68 :

"USA1 and STAN grow up! How dare you ever insult those kids on the football team, they give it their best. This has nothing do to with them. YOU two are nothing shy of being total jerks.
You seem to want to be superior and you are doing this by insulting our kids."

So my suggesting that the prostitutes and dope dealers be charged a thousand a year plus paying income taxes was insulting to your kids on the football team ? If so my apologies !

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64dickleo20(2 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

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66UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Just another dumb idea from a dumb politician. Mayor George will chase all away from being a landlord in Campbell. It's unbelievable what taxes and fees these Democrooks come up with to screw their citizens and those who actually invest in their city. How do you think another $90 a month will play with the renters - more empty abandoned houses for this city. Just another dumb idea from a dumb politician.

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67cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Jack Dill has already run this city into the ground. And if these houses become more of a blight in our town, the landlords will pay for that too. It'll just be put on their property taxes. WE WANT TO BE RID OF THEM. GET IT!!

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68Mer1(28 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

This mayor acts like he's a financial wizard. Keep in mind that he's a college dropout. Go to the Mahoning County courts page and see how many current and past judgements are/were against him.

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69theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

OMG I just went to mahoning county courts and typed in his name and he has 12 entries against him. It looks like he was arrested by Boardman pd for DUI in 2007. I hope this was someone else and not him because if this was him shame on him

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70Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Mayor George Krinos would be challenged to run a muffler shop let alone a city . His sense of direction for the City of Campbell will lead them into an advanced state of decay . The people of Campbell deserve better .

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71theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Was the mayor arrested by Boardman pd for DUI? iF so, he'll fit in just fine with the rest of the criminal city hall has...

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72Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Lisa Antonini v. George Krinos et al, foreclosure.

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73theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Nice, he's being foreclosured on and he wants to put a tax on landlords. Maybe he should be worried about his own taxes

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74cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


I have read all of your comments and I actually called Mayor Krinos on some of these topics that are on the public access site. Just so you know he was very open and explaind it all. What I was told to tell anyone who has questions feel free to call him at city hall.
FYI, Jack DIll tried to get all of this in the vidicator the week prior to the election but Mayor Krinos explained that after he gave all of the needed information to the press writer it was unfounded, there was no basis of truth.


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75Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Mayor George Krinos seems to be a deadbeat . Perhaps a background check would have been in order before allowing him to run for mayor . If you can't manage your own affairs then you aren't capable of running those of a city's .

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76cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If you are an adult who is willing to put in the time and effort before assuming anything and making comments like you, THE WORD or ANYONE esle, I suggest you or any give the Mayor a call. Find out the truth!!!!!!!!!!Dont ASSUM, notice I left the E off. FYI you know what they say about people who live in glass houses?????????

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77theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

So was he arrested for DUI or no?

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78Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


Are you saying that you believe that all of the 12 items on public access are false since the mayor explained them to you? I could see one or two being a mistake, but all 12? Some are still open, thus these entities are still pressing him for money owed by him to them. You stated that he told you that the items were unfounded. I find it hard to believe that all 12 were unfounded.

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79cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


I feel that if I answer any of your questions I would only mis inform you. Kinda like the telephone game, I was told something, then I tell you, you tell someone else, etc. By the time its done you have a story that is different 6ways from Sunday. All you have to do is to call the Mayor. I feel that his answers and he even offered to give me proof that these items are unfounded. I'm am not his advocate, I am only a citizen who feels we have the right man in place.

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80cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


I want you to know that the Mayor is not a college drop out, he actually is a financial wizard. The Mayor never said he graduated, the vindicator just assumed he did and published it that way. It was not retracted but the vindi changed it after the Mayor had a conversation with the press writer. He never said he graduated.

Secondly how he is a financial wizard, he was so good at managing investments that he was hired before he finished college to run an office of Edward Jones Investments, one of the largest and most well respected financial advisory firms in the United States. SO to sum it up he never got a chance to finish college and why should he have?

Now he owns his own financial advisory firm which he started from the ground about 5yrs ago and is now managing well over 75million in assets. He has a full staff of support people along with several other financial advisors working for him. Also he hosts a financial radio talk show and will be teaching classes at the YSU Metro College.

What I'm trying to say is that compared to all the other mayors Campbell has had, how many of them could say at the age of 32 they accomplished as much as he has????

Heck how many of you could say you have accomplished as much as he has at his age????


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81cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I keep telling everyone to just give him a call. I feel you are judging before you even know. It takes a coward to just assume.

Just call him at city hall. FYI the number is 330-755-1451 just ask for Mayor Krinos!

Also he still stands by the fact that he is not a politician, but an upset citizen. He even told everyone at city hall to call him George not Mayor, he claims he dosn't care about a title, its only a title.
How many of you stepped up to the plate to try to fix the city. Its easy to sit back and say things why dont you all offer to give him a hand instead of insulting him, ohhh wait I know, you wont becuase you dont have any ideas to help him or the city!!!!

Tell you what stand infront of a mirror and look really hard, would you put yourself out there on front street to help or coward in a corner and point fingers? If all of you are so perfect then you should have ran for mayor.

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82Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

A "financial wizard" would not have so many judgements against him. He dropped out of college way before working for Jones. You don't need a college degree to sell stock, you go and pass an easy Series 7 test which most people can pass. At Jones, you mostly sell what the company tells you to sell, thus he was not some golden child for them. Anybody can have a radio show as long as they pay for the time. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. One last thing, at age 32 and up to the current day, I've never had a judgement against me, never had a DUI, and never filed bankruptcy.

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83cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Well I guess you should have run for mayor, and if that series 7 test is that easy take it and open up your own firm. Also if he dropped out of college way before going to Jones then why did they hire him to run an office???? Just a few questions. Again easy to point the finger, as the old expression goes, how many are pointing back at you?

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84cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Why do you act like you know all this information about Mayor Krinos. I guess the better question how? Why dont you inform us all since you seem to be his best friend????

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85Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Real nice response. I give facts, you just give me the line of "go take the test and pass it yourself". I did OK for myself thank you, I make a six figure salary, built and paid for a nice house, have zero debt, have no judgements against me, graduated from college, have no DUI's against me, have never filed bankruptcy, have never passed a bad check, etc. There are no fingers pointed back at me. It is evident that you are friends with him, thus your facts are probably distorted. How's the Kool Aid?

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86Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

How do I know this stuff? All I had to do was go to public access, it's public information. What are you, in the first grade?

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87cmhs68(134 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I know about the public access site, Im an attorney, I was on it. What I am asking is how do you know about his schooling, did he tell you, are you a professor, or what? Seems to me that you have no idea and are going off what appears to be on paper and rumors. Do what I did be a grown up an call the Mayor if you want real answers.

Since I am an attorney I will tell you that to get a series 7 license, it has only a 27% pass ratio which 98% of those who take it are college graduates and have a degree in finance. Maybe you should do some research.

Did you know that Campbells president of council filed bankruptcy, twice, or how about this did you know that only one person on coucil has a college degree. What are you trying to say, it still dosnt make sense. How do you know the Mayor "dropped out of college way before going to Jones".

The mayor dosn't claim to be a perfect person, only says that he is good for the city.

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88Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Trust me, from reading your posts, you are not an attorney. An attorney would have much better grammar and spelling than that. I've got to go now thus I won't be able to respond to your posts. Have fun sitting on the computer all day defending your friend. Take a break after a few hours and maybe you can go down to City Hall and shine his shoes and go fill up his car with gas.

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89theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago


I think people are questioning what kinda of person he is. you say he accomplished a lot at 33 in starting his own business and by the way is a good thing, but I dont see how you can dismiss the other things. Did he get a dui? why so many judgements against him? Why did the vindy say he finished school? It just seems like he is just telling people what they want to hear. I guess time will tell what kinda of mayor he will turn out to be

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90Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

"I want you to know that the Mayor is not a college drop out, he actually is a financial wizard. "

Yes, I can readily see that he indeed is a financial wizard . Campbell is so lucky to have him as their mayor .

"Lisa Antonini v. George Krinos et al, foreclosure."


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91candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Opinions vary, so which answer leads us to mutual edification versus puffed uppitiness?

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92Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Expectations don't always lead to gratification . Perhaps the solution would be to not expect any viable earth shattering performance from Mayor George Krinos.

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93Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Campbell has nothing to offer its residents but higher taxes and fees . This is good for the bureaucracy as it allows them to live high on the hog . The rest are doomed to a life of squalor . Until the mentality of those governing Campbell changes no one in their right mind will bring any business into Campbell other than drugs or prostitution which continue to be tax free .

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94Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Mushrooms grow well on a compost pile but they are short lived . Campbell will run out of sources to supply their way of life . Change is coming that will force them to either be productive and grow or wither into oblivion . What will remain will be a plaque denoting their demise .

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95candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

news just out of Washington...

If you buy a house in Tim Ryans district the second one is free.

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96LocalYokel(12 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If I were a landlord in Campbell and this fee started I would raise my rent to cover the charge. $1000 is a lot of money, the rental house I own gives me a profit of $100 a month, when there are no repairs. Or I would sell the house, then we will see how many people are interested in living in Campbell. I'm willing to bet the people who rent houses in Campbell couldn't pass a credit check, but the city will lend them the money. Sounds like a terrible idea.

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97gleekgal(50 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

The doctors,lawyers, industrial bridge contractors(the millionaires) and all the rest of us that work like dogs are tired of carrying the city. So dig deep into your pockets, dig up those jars in your back yards,AND TAX THE SLUMLORDS !! THAT'S IT ! PLAIN AND SIMPLE ! The rest of you jokers see you @ the next council meeting or SHUT UP !!

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98Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Got aspirations for riches ? GET A JOB ! The landlords don't aspire to support you by contributing an extra grand a year . Tax the prostitutes and drug pushers in Campbell . They have lots of money with low overheads .

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99Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

It is proper to tax the largest industry in Campbell ! They don't need the tax break ! Drugs are king and prostitution is queen in the metropolis .

Tax the prostitutes and drug pushers in Campbell . They have lots of money with low overheads .


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100Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

So housing is too cheap ? The same was said about oil and gasoline . Then gasoline rose to above four dollars a gallon . So where is the plenty of money from that logic ? We seem to be in a recession because of the impact from those prices .

Why not just level all of Campbell and put in a huge casino and golf course in its place ? We could relocate the people to Detroit . I'll contribute the roadside plaque entering the city paying tribute to the former town of Campbell . The Campbell mayor could be placed in a Detroit Brothel as a pimp where he could lead effectively .

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101moeprops(6 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I am a landlord in Warren and I currently pay a yearly registration fee of $81.00 per unit and we have yearly inspections. All of my tenants either work full time or are part time workers and full time students. My homes are clean, well kept and safe. All of my tenants have to pass a strict background check and I collect rents in person every month and then inspect my rentals. My monthly rents range from $400 to $600 per month.

I can tell you that if Warren ever tried to pass a $1000 registration fee, I would be out of business. I cannot pass that cost down to my renters. They will pick up and move out of the city to a cheaper place. Warren would then have even more empty homes sitting vacant. I spend a great deal of money rehabbing these homes after purchase and maintaining them.

All of the neighbors know how to contact me, if they have any complaints and they are much happier having a nice home with a nice tenant living next to them, then a vacant crack house. If your intentions are to get rid of the slumlords, then start inspecting these homes more often and shut the slumlords down. This will allow property investors such as myself to increase rents and demand better tenants. If you enact this $1000 yearly fee it will be the death of your community.

To punish good landlords because you fail to act on the irresponsible ones is ridiculous. Start a yearly inspection policy and you will see the slumlords and out of state landlords run from your community and this will provide the good landlords a level playing field.

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102Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Question for the people in Campbell: In previous posts it has been revealed that the current mayor has had and currently has judgements against him for nonpayment, has had property foreclosed, has been cited for a DUI, never graduated from college, etc. Was any of this information known before the election? If so, how did he win? From what I read, the previous mayor was not very productive, but it seems that at least he had a clean resume.

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103theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

None of this came out before the election, and your right, the past mayor was not very productive in bringing new jobs to the city but at least he was honest.

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104sistersun(49 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

People,ignore stan,he really doesn't have a glue about what is going on.Last I heard he was living in Campbell but I do believe it was on Gordan St. close to the bottom.........All the way at end...looks like weeds and bushes to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ignore ignorant people.

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105candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

I'm living in a white van down by the river for those with uncomitted New Year plans.

Farley on SNL

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106Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Watch it there sistersun ! Easy with the critique !

Lots of weeds and bushes exist in the fertile decaying mind of your mayor .

I may be your next door neighbor in Campbell for all you know . You know, the one who blows cuttings all over your yard and upsets your mower AKA goat .

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107mrblue(1175 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

The former mayor and council did very little. The new mayor will have a difficult time simply because he has the same do-nothing council.

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108moeprops(6 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Giving poor people my money to buy at house that they cannot afford!!! Isn't this exactly how we got into this mess to begin with? It was the Community Reinvestment Act. Which forced banks to lend to people who could not afford a mortgage payment and who should have remained renters. How many times do we have to go down this path of creating social programs for people who simply have no desire to take care of themselves. Your mayor should be tarred and feathered.

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109mrblue(1175 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

The once proud city of Campbell, will most likely, be gone in the next 5 to 10 years. It is turning into Youngstown"s expanded east side. The city fathers have done very little to stop the decay. There is nothing Campbell has to offer to a business to locate here. For one thing, the taxes are too high to encourage growth. I have lived in this city for most of my life, and it makes me sick to see what has happened here.

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110theword(342 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

If the new mayor cares sooo much about the city then why don't he move his business into the city?

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111Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Give the mayor this: At least he's smart enough not to locate his business in Campbell. A previous poster hit the nail on the head. As soon as our parents die and leave us a house, we are going to sell the house to the first person interested (furnishings included) and get out of that place. Campbell is not the city it was when we lived there and will continue to decline especially now that the current mayor is in charge.

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112Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

Until Mayor George Krinos finishes decaying the City Of Campbell there will be no rebirth . It's not about what he can do for Campbell but what he and his cronies can extract from Campbell . As soon as the fungal activity stops the rebirth will begin .

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113candystriper(575 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

What will the value of your home be when the dollar is devalued by 75% or more?

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114Ctown(115 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

The only reason the Lincoln Knolls Plaza is entirely occupied is because most of it was torn down years ago. It is only a shell of what is once was. That plaza used to have two grocery stores, a movie theater, a bowling alley, radio shack, two five and dime stores, Western Auto, and Stambaughs along with Hill's. When these company's ceased to exist, nothing was brought in to replace them. That plaza is a dump. I'd rather drive to Struthers to go grocery shopping rather than encounter some of the thugs that patronize that plaza.

As far as Campbell goes, you people should have done your homework on this mayor before he got elected, not now. Now it is too late and you must stomach him for two long years.....not that the previous mayor was any better. At least the previous mayor had a nice, clean resume.

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115ront(119 comments)posted 6 years, 6 months ago

i shouldn't be surprised at the crazy ideas politicians come up with.

being a former landlord, not in campbell thank god. every year i spent hundreds of dollars to repair the damage done by tenants. i spent thousands of dollars to upgrade my building, only to have tenants not pay their rent. trash the place. move out in the middle of the night.

all this in austintown. supposedly one of the better areas in the valley to live. i hate to think what it's like in campbell.

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116Iwannamove(61 comments)posted 6 years, 2 months ago

Being in campbell for almost 20 years was not that bad but lately most of my neighbors have either left or died. There are 3 that have been there almost as long as me. I have to deal with these bad apples that landlords rent to. I have two houses across the street from me. I don't know if they are flop houses or what because tons of people seem to be living there most are kids. The only parental adult I see is a woman She apparently is never there or she is out there encouraging her kids to throw rocks at things They broke the windows out of the house next door that is empty. I have found rocks on my yard, house etc. I have complained only to have my house assaulted with toilet paper, eggs, tomato sauce etc. These people are awake with kids ranging from 3 to 15 and they are up being loud til 3 to 4:00 am in the morning. I for one feel for the landlords because I know it must be hard to get people to rent or live in campbell I know I want to leave) I think instead of this $1000 thing they should fine the darn landlords if they have disruptive tenants that they don't either control or get rid of. I see no sense calling the police because I know nothing will be done.

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