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Teams write new chapter in Valley’s football tradition



Published: Sat, December 5, 2009 @ 12:01 a.m.
  Mooney Vs. DeSales

  Ursuline Vs. Coldwater

By Rob Todor

VINDICATOR SPORTS EDITOR

The list of great names and teams reflect decades of excellence.

Wes Fesler. Bob Dove. Frank Sinkwich. Mike DeNiro. Ted Bell. Bo Rein. Michael Zordich. Korey Stringer. Deollo Anderson.

Just to name a few.

The Valley dominated the state tournament in the 1970s. In the first three years of the postseason, the Class AAA champions were Warren Western Reserve, Cardinal Mooney and Warren Harding.

Over the next 34 years, the Mahoning Valley produced 13 more state championship teams.

But on Friday a new chapter in the grand tradition of Youngstown football was written.

And it was done in convincing fashion.

About 1:30 p.m. in Massillon, Cardinal Mooney hoisted trophy No. 17 for the Valley and No. 7 for the school.

Less than five hours later, the Ursuline Fighting Irish repeated the scene a few miles to the east, in Canton. No. 18 for the Valley, No. 3 for the school.

Fitting, then, that the Valley’s top programs of the first 10 years of the new century ended the decade on top of the football mountain.

Even with all the great players, all the awards, all the championships, never before had we seen what transpired on Friday.

Two Valley teams winning state championships in the same year, let alone on the same day.

And Ursuline winning back-to-back championships — that’s the first time a Valley school has ever successfully defended its title.

New traditions. New names to add to the list.

Pelini and Heard. Jones and Kempe.

Fecko and Reardon.

A new chapter was written on Friday.

The book continues to grow.


Comments

1mattmcd31(3 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

This nearly happened in 1987 when Mooney won the state title and Boardman was a finalist on the same day at the horseshoe in Columbus.

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2UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

The best two teams in the state that Catholic recruiters could put together.

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3dicaprio7(17 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Instead of being grateful something positive has happened in the Valley, Union boy wants to find everything negative to say....I ban all Unions..they do nothing but tear this world apart..and you ..dude..are a prime example!!!

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4NoBS(1982 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

leonardo, UnionForever is hardly a "union boy." Haven't you read what he writes? He's as anti-union as you.

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5FormerYtowner(96 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Way to go Universitys of Mooney and Ursuline!
Way to make thew Valley Proud!

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6umpire7586(4 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Less we forget, Girard and Campbell won State Basketball titles on the same day for the boys in 1993. We also had three teams lose in the finals in football in 1989, Campbell and McDonald on Friday and Warren JFK on Saturday, all by I believe one score. Anyway, congrats to the Champions, you have done the area proud.

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7mikeymike(469 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Good Job Mooney and Ursuline , the valley is proud of you,don't let all of the jealous haters get to you.The people who make negative comments about your proud moment are LOSERS.

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8pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Congrats to both teams and our valley

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9pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Good job guys. Congrats. Thank you bringing continued recognition of our valley...ty...We need it.

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10mikeymike(469 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Mooney 1993 give it a rest,you are the biggest loser,what a hater toward local schools.They are state champs,get over it and move on.Great job Mooney and Ursuline.One last thing, if you continue with all the hate toward our new state champs,Santa will not bring you anything,little cry baby,not even a lump of coal.If your super nice from now on,Santa will get you season tickets to either Mooney or Ursuline its up to you.

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11ytown_fan(4 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Wow - what would these guys do if someone trashed their accomplishments? Or maybe the problem is, they've never had any. My guess is, they spend most of their lives worried about what everyone else has. Probably think the rich should pay all their bills too!

Get the chip off your shoulder. Your comments take away from all the hard work that these kids put in. In addition, attending a smaller, more structured school, will give many of those students opportunities that they otherwise wouldn't have had - both on and off the field.

Congrats guys. You deserve to have your day in the spotlight. The Valley is proud of you!

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12mikeymike(469 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Mooney 1993 God doesn't care about sports,he is busy with the real problems of the world.BTW I went to Fitch and played football,we played both Mooney and Ursuline,and lost to both of them.They were the better team period,case closed.No one cried that they are cheaters and recruit,they were better.

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13valleyred(1099 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

I have a strong belief that these bums all upset about Ursuline and Mooney are in the minority in our area. Typical Catholic haters.

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14ytown_fan(4 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

For what it's worth, Mooney moved up to D3 and Coldwater moved down to D5. Meaning both teams played and beat traditionally bigger schools. And neither Coldwater nor DeSales are slacker programs.

And by the way, Ohio State didn't play YSU in a playoff game.

For all you haters out there, do us all a favor. Get off the couch on Monday, go down to your local high school and volunteer. You may be the person they need to help make a difference. Your negative comments and opinions aren't helping anyone here.

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15ScarletGrey03(9 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

This guys is unreal.. Quit crying and get a life, and change your user name while your at it.

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16ytown_fan(4 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

So all catholic school alum are cheaters, criminals and child molester sympathizers? And all public school athletes are not good enough to win a state title? Really?

Mooney1993, I can only imagine what caused your deep rooted hatred for these two schools. But I suggest you talk with someone about it. Your anger is going to destroy your life.

And you have accomplished something! You've managed to hi-jack a blog that should have been praising these young men. Hope you feel proud!

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17woolyd(579 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Parochial schools have won 5 state titles in Ohio this year out of the 6 possible. I congratulate Mooney and Ursuline but something is suspicious. Parochial schools are like the New York Yankees especially in Ohio. They get all the best athletes to win title but hey I cant blame them they are only playing by the rules. When the system is flawed and it favors those with money then those with the money will dominate.

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18saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Whats' unreal is how much Mooney1993 whines! My kids don't even whine that much. Why don't you sit down and drink a nice tall glass of STFU!

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19msweetwood(162 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Say goodbye for the evening to Mooney1993...

We tried to give him a hint that we thought it was bad taste to attack the students' accomplishments by removing one comment. Instead, he decided to dominate this thread with his viewpoint (owning almost a third of the total comments until we ended his evening).

Look, there are many days throughout the year to debate parity in high school sports. But the Mooney and Ursuline football teams did something special Friday regardless of your viewpoint. So, let's give these kids a couple of days to celebrate. Then, we can get back to the typical mayhem found on these pages.

We support freedom of expression but there is something about attacking high school students so soon after a special accomplishment that just doesn't seem right.

Everyone wears Cardinal red and Fighting Irish green today.

Thanks,

Mark Sweetwood
Managing Editor

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20ytown_fan(4 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

woolyd - I agree. The OHSAA somehow needs to account for schools that can pull in student/athletes from other school districts. And it would need to include catholic, private and open enrollment schools.

But let's face it, there's a lot of catholic schools in the state of Ohio that don't even get into the playoffs. And Mooney and Ursuline aren't automatic bids either. So let's make sure we celebrate their achievements for the accomplishments that they are. Having two State Champions from Youngstown in the same year is awesome - period!

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21saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Thank you Mark, for standing up for the kids. They didn't create the playoff system, they just play by the rules....and play damn well for that matter! Congratulations again!

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22terri1984(25 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

As I have posted many times before, I am a proud 1984 graduate of CMHS. I am so thrilled that Mooney and Ursuline were able to win the football championships for their divisions. I think it is such an accomplishment for these young men. I would also like to think that the residents of Youngstown and all the Mahoning valley are proud of these two schools as I am. I no longer live in y-town, but everyone around me knows about the success of these two great football teams. Congrats to both Mooney and Ursuline.

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23Tugboat(759 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Is 'Mooney1993' the one and only ...APOLLO???

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24LMC(2 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

I live in Columbusand teach in a public school. I am an ursuling graduate. Ohio has an open enrollment policy for schools that choose to enact this policy. There is nohing stopping any school in Ohio from recruiting, how did Warren end up with Clarett? He did not live there. Look at Cleveland Glenville. Ursuline and Mooney draw from many areas because anyone can choose to send their children to a private school. I return to Ytown often where else if you live in the city are you going to send your children.

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25MaryBethSnyder(2 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Mark Sweetwood - God Bless Your Soul!

Too many posters forget that these are kids they are trashing - not institutions but teenagers. They have practiced long hours and worked hard and those games yesterday were a joy to watch.

They have accomplished what so many adults have failed to do: They have brought good publicity to this area and something to celebrate.

So, thank you for putting a stop to this hateful bashing.

And, God Bless the Irish and the Cardinals, too!

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26Superman(31 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Mark, is censorship standard operating procedure there at the Vindy? I didn't notice any terms of service violations of the Mooney1993 person. I did see terms of service violations from many of the others however. I imagine you know what the F means in STFU?

The sad part is Mooney1993 is absolutely correct in all assertions. So we should celebrate people who game the system? Maybe we should celebrate Phar Mor and Monus for his charitable usage of stolen money? Let's celebrate all the other "winners" who did so using shady means.

So much for a free America.

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27saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

I'm taking an educated guess that Mooney and Superman do not have kids of their own. One day when people start trashing the institutions that their kids go to, they may understand.

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28FormerYtowner(96 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

Well now we know which one of two schools Mr. Mark Sweetwood went to. Mark...you must be one of the supporters who doesn't want to see these schools for what they really are. Cheaters. Thanks Mark for showing all of us that if the truth hurts shoot the messenger.

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29pit_bull_marley(291 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

My goodness Mooney...What would Al Bundy say!~

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30ScarletGrey03(9 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

All this talk of pedophiles and what not on a thread that is supposed to be about two state football titles, and this isnt the first time I've seen it from this guy... hmmmmmm, maybe you've got issues better suited for a therapist's office instead of an online forum.

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31saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

FormerYtowner needs to be just that. Stay out of the Valley's business if you don't have anything positive to say.....glad you're not around anymore!

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32epicfail(217 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

"So much for a free America."

First they came for the catholic bashing comment trolls...

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33gypsygirl720(186 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

CONGRATS TO THE TWO [2] VALLEY TEAMS:
URSULINE and MOONEY.
~~~We should all be proud of "The Kids".
God Bless You All.
[Yes, I am a UHS grad 1969]

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34mahoningvalley12(36 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

while I am happy for both teams and I always jump at the chance to celebrate something positive happening in the valley...I find it a bit unfair that Ursuline and Mooney are able to play Division 1 teams all year long and be successful and then they get to go to Division 3 and 5 and kill any playoff competition.
I think the OHSAA needs to add a multiplier to parochial schools to even out the competition in the playoffs. Mooney could of easily won a Division 1 state title and Ursuline a Division 3 state title....just seems a little unfair to the rest of the competition...those schools get to pull from a dozen football rich communities while other schools have to play with what they have.

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35CardsWin(10 comments)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

mahoningvalley12:

Mooney's 2009 regular season schedule consisted of 8 private schools and 2 public schools. Further, they played 7 out of 10 schools at equal or lesser divisions with an average division of 3. That sounds about right for a division 3 private school wouldn't you say? Still, the method by which they dismantled each and every quality opponent was exceptional.

Congrats to Mooney with a 2009 national ranking of 4 according to www.maxpreps.com.

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36bootsie08(1 comment)posted 4 years, 11 months ago

I guess kids in youngstown just can t do any thing good. these kids pratice long hours almost every day in the summer starting in July. everyone in youngstown should be proud of these kids, And for that any kid that put forth and effort to try and better there self quit knocking them because to knock them is to knock youngstown. And if they hadnt went around closing all the high schools maybe the public schools would be in playoff games! But thats another story!

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