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Nemenz supporters turn tables on pickets



Published: Sun, August 23, 2009 @ 12:09 a.m.

By Jeanne Starmack

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

The pickets are now the picketed by friends, family of IGA workers; cops have made a visit

STRUTHERS — A handful of pickets were standing on the corner in front of the Nemenz IGA Friday when a police officer walked up.

The police had a complaint from store owner Henry Nemenz that the pickets, members of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 880, were harassing shoppers. It had to stop, he said.

When the officer mentioned complaints about the pickets taking pictures with their cell phones of store customers, one of them took issue.

What about that other group, on the other side of the parking lot, she wanted to know. When members of that group cross over, set up their tripod and get in the pickets’ faces, just to harass them. What could be done about that?

If there are more incidents like that, the officer said, let the police know. Then he left.

Across the parking lot from the four pickets, there was just an empty space. It was 3:15 in the afternoon, and the other group was usually there by then, said the pickets, who did not want to give their names.

They come with their signs — “Shop Nemenz,” “They should go home,” and “Pickets should get real jobs.”

“They invade our space,” said Local 880’s line leader, who would identify herself only as Tammy.

“They’ll come over and get in front of us,” said another.

Yes, the pickets have become the picketed.

Local 880’s informational picket line has been outside the IGA for about two years, with signs urging people to shop elsewhere because it is a nonunion store. There are only as many as four people on the line, the pickets said, and they denied they harass shoppers.

The group about 30 feet away on the other side of the parking lot started its line Aug. 5, said organizer Bryan Cramer.

It’s made up of about 20 people — friends and friends of friends who live in Struthers and shop at the IGA, and they finally decided enough is enough, he said.

There are usually about seven people on their line, Cramer said — they fit it in around their job schedules.

When Cramer and two other pickets finally did arrive Friday for their 3 to 6 p.m. daily shift, they explained why they decided to step in and defend the store. Two of them said they have relatives working in the store and in Nemenz’ corporate office.

Harry Meyer said his mother works in the produce shop and his aunt works in the corporation’s administration.

Ron Miller said his mother, Diane, works in the bakery.

None of the employees, they said, wants the pickets there — an assertion Diane Miller echoed.

“We’re very unhappy that the pickets are there,” she said in a telephone interview. “We all want them to go.”

Tammy of Local 880 said the union could not reveal whether any store employees had asked them to picket.

“It’s a privacy issue,” she said. She referred other questions to a union leader who could not be reached to comment.

Employees come out every day, said Meyer, and give people on his line drinks and food. “They tell us how much they enjoy us doing this for them,” he said.

Meyer said he is not anti-union, but that unionizing should be strictly up to workers at the store.

“They are hurting business and the economy when there is no need to,” he said.

“They just want a foothold in another store, and the person at the top will benefit,” he continued.

Local 880 pickets say they are there to level the playing field for grocery store workers. “Don’t you think everybody should have equal amounts of pay and health benefits?” Tammy asked.

No surprise, the two groups have clashed, though there have been no physical altercations.

Cramer said he does take his tripod and camera to the other side of the lot, but only after he sees their cameras come out.

He said an unidentified man shows up from time to time, gets out of a car and yells at them. The man has said vulgar things to his wife, who also pickets, Cramer said. He filed a police report about the man Thursday.

Cramer said he doesn’t know if his group will have the staying power of the union. He wouldn’t predict how long they’d be there.

They are getting a surprising amount of support from people driving by, he said, even in this strong pro-union area.

“Over 600 beeps (Thursday),” he said, noting it was the first day they decided to keep a count.

starmack@vindy.com


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1Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"There are only as many as four people on the line, the pickets said, and they denied they harass shoppers."

Shoppers have been heckled at both the IGA in Struthers and the Save A Lot in Poland .

If this was all about unionizing which it isn't a vote by the employees would be taken . The simple fact is that the UFCW isn't wanted and they are becoming a nuisance . This is all about gaining market share for the Poland Giant Eagle where sales have been dropping due to atrocious pricing . Giant Eagle's huge corporate appetite combined with overpaid hierarchy at UFCW are demanding that you pay more for food . The shoppers whose incomes have taken a beating by the economy are seeking real value for their food dollar .

http://unionfacts.com is a union watchdog. Statistics on salaries of UFCW and their violations can be found on-site. UFCW which says that information is good fumes about the availability of it when it exposes their actions .

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2Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

THIS IS HOW THE UFCW OPERATES .

The hierarchy's appetite must be satisfied .

Ex-union official sentenced for fraud
Grocery chain bilked for $1.56 million

http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll...

Joseph DiFlumera, a Milford native who worked his way through the United Food and Commercial Workers union to the position of assistant to the president of the international union, was sentenced last month to 46 months in federal prison.

Mr. DiFlumera was charged with Hobbs Act extortion in which he received $1.56 million .

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3MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The UFCW does this all over the country. Here's an example from Phoenix, Arizona where they are picketing a family owned chain of grocery stores named Basha's.
http://talesfromtherustbelt.blogspot....

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4What_the_Heck(34 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Unions have already ruined the auto industry and are a big part of whats keeping our economy going down hill by forcing companies to pay people what the union demands and not what they are worth. They only protect workers that don't justify the wage they are being paid. A good worker doesn't need a union to keep their job. They should leave the store alone and GO AWAY!!!!! I will blow my horn every time I go by.

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5NoBS(2008 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Typical anti-union slanted story by the VIndicator.

Picketing is a legal activity, and I still have yet to have anyone explain to me how 3 or 4 people carrying signs and standing in the rain out by the street, on public land, not privately-owned land, can affect someone's business as much as Henry would like us to believe.

The truth is, he's laughing all the way to the bank, because every biased, anti-picketer story the Vindy runs is free advertising for Henry. Things must have slowed down for him, so he got some "anti-picketer picketers" so he could get some more free advertising.

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6Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

All BS:

What we have here is picketing that has nothing to do with a strike or unionizing . The UFCW has a long history of corruption and illegal activities . I am promoting a call for legislation to limit informational picketing to sixty days . This is more than ample time for their message to be seen .

The FBI should do a thorough investigation of UFCW activities involving corruption and misuse of union funds .

The fallout from UFCW activities is giving other unions that don't have these problems a bad name .

Those who have attacked the UAW should remember that without the GM and Delphi workers serving the Lordstown GM plant this Valley would not have had the resources to have rebounded from Black Tuesday . Today they are attacked with retirement and health benefits cut .

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7Heather01(2 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

This article would have been more effective had it presented both sides of the issue by explaining what each side feels are the good/bad sides of a union at the store. Displaying both sides complaining about the other serves no purpose other than some free advertising.

God forbid if people actually took some time to explore both sides of the issue and educate themselves properly and then make their own decision on the subject after having opinions from both sides.

It is very disappointing to see a sign on the front page of the paper attacking people who exercise their first amendment right. Union protesters do have real jobs. They spend their time off standing up for what they believe, which I'm assuming is what IGA supporters do as well.

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8Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

"It is very disappointing to see a sign on the front page of the paper attacking people who exercise their first amendment right. "

The UFCW picketers are hiding behind first amendment rights . They on the other hand don't want any opposition voices heard . Try any dissent where they are in control and see what happens .

THE UFCW IS GIVING ALL UNIONS A BAD NAME WITH THE FALLOUT THAT THEY ARE CAUSING !

Try a debate with the UFCW and they get very irrational . Transparency in their actions is not what they desire .

Sixty days is plenty of time for the public to view their so called informational picket signs . THEY ARE NOT UNIONIZING IGA STRUTHERS OR SAVE A LOT POLAND. It is all about gaining more market share for Giant Eagle in Poland . Neither I nor anyone else owes it to them to patronize atrocious pricing at Giant Eagle .

The FBI should do a thorough investigation of UFCW activities involving corruption and misuse of union funds .

I am promoting a call for legislation to limit informational picketing to sixty days . This is more than ample time for their message to be seen

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9What_the_Heck(34 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

I would not have a problem if IGA workers were the ones doing the picketing. They all seem to be happy with their jobs. Why is the union so set on causing a non-union bussness to lose customers, I just don't understand.

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10rocky14(728 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

In Hubbard there was 48 people working in the store.Then the former owner sold the store to Henry Nemenz.
Nemenz only hired back 3 people.He made sure there wasn't going to be a union.Tell me he's not anti-union.
If they try to get a union in there,i'm sure they will find a way to fire them.
In this bad economy,they can't take a chance.

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

UFCW GOUGING WORKERS PAYING DUES TO THE MAX !

A full investigation of UFCW by the FBI is warranted to protect the integrity of the union .

Let's compare top salaries. UFCW vs UAW .

2006 TOP

UAW Ron Gajeski $173,904.
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

COMPARE OTHERS AT BOTH UNIONS
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi....

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12Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

What I would like to know is what kind of an audit is being done to verify that union funds are being properly handled . How are the very high salaries at UFCW justified ? Top union officials should be subject to a criminal background check and the results made available to the union workers whose dues are being cycled to questionable channels .

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13Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Well dog, I suppose that you forgot about the gay comments and the backside of Mount Rushmore picture . So removing the garbage was anti union ?

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14Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Now lets get past your BS and on to the subject of corruption .

What I would like to know is what kind of an audit is being done to verify that union funds are being properly handled . How are the very high salaries at UFCW justified ? Top union officials should be subject to a criminal background check and the results made available to the union workers whose dues are being cycled to questionable channels .

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15block50(128 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

If this paper can't balance out it's coverage just a bit I will have to let my subscription lapse in Sept. This is free, sympathetic advertising for Mr. Nemenz and it is wrong. It is a really crummy article and does a disservice to a paper with such a long standing history in this community. You guys can do better.

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16Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

block50:

When news that strikes your fancy occurs you will then lose out . Nemenz is making news for his stance of keeping jobs available for his employees . UFCW wants all of Henry's stores shut down to make more market share for Giant Eagle .

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

What you have seen dog is loss of sales for Giant Eagle from my circle . I have saved enough in one month to drive my car for two months .

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18Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

What turned me off from shopping at Giant Eagle was the attitude of the UFCW . When they tried to convince me that their cause was just I looked at the facts . They are not unionizing any of Henry's stores but are merely trying to shut them down to gain market share for Giant Eagle . They claim to be doing this to support Henry's workers . So only UFCW workers deserve to be employed ?

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19Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey dog:

Well dog, I suppose that you forgot about the gay comments and the backside of Mount Rushmore picture . So removing the garbage was anti union ?

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20NoBS(2008 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey Stan - what's your last name - Nemenz? You sure are working hard defending ol' Henry. And mocking everyone's name? Great touch! It's working well for you - it really makes everyone take your sharp-as-a-bowling-ball wit all the more seriously.

Stanny Boy, you have 11 out of the 30 posts up to this point. Better than one out of three! Maybe Henry will bump you up to $7 per hour!

(to the tune of Danny Boy)
"O Stanny Boy - the carts, the carts are calling/
Go round them up, from all around the lot/
Maybe some daaaaaayyy, they'll let you bag the groceries/
But until then, just go and get your mop."

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21NoBS(2008 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Stan, you snuck another post in on me - now you have 12 out of 32. Keep it up!

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22rocky14(728 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

THIS is why i canceled my VINDY paper after 37 years.
They love Henry too much---and Stan

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23Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

All BS:

I was hoping to get the job printing up the signs for the picketing Walmart job coming up . I'd try for dogs job but I can't figure out what he does besides signing a paycheck and snacking all day .

Snuck ? You must have dozed off . Does dog pay you to sleep ?

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24Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Who is anti union ? Hmmmmmm ? I just don't care for UFCW tactics . The UAW is a class act !

UFCW GOUGING WORKERS PAYING DUES TO THE MAX !

A full investigation of UFCW by the FBI is warranted to protect the integrity of the union .

Let's compare top salaries. UFCW vs UAW .

2006 TOP

UAW Ron Gajeski $173,904.
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

COMPARE OTHERS AT BOTH UNIONS
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi....

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25Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

rocky14:

"THIS is why i canceled my VINDY paper after 37 years.
They love Henry too much---and Stan"

Ah rocky, say it aint so . Major news will be coming down and you will lost in daily conversations when you hear about it .

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26redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

So where does the money come from to pay these ridiculous salaries? They sure are concerned about the welfare of the rank and file aren't they! I read where one of Obama's CZARs is going to look at corporate salaries. I am sure he is going to look at union leaders salaries also.
I am sorry, I am just being a little naive tonight.

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27cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Top ten executives pay.

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/...

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28MikePrelee(38 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Pattons IGA in Hubbard closed because the owners couldn't afford to keep it open. Henry Nemenz reopened it and hired who he wanted. Who said he had to hire the people who worked there under Patton?

It's all water under the bridge now that UFCW Local 880 has forced the store to close and left our community with a big empty store. And now they want to do the same in Poland and Struthers. That's why people dislike this union.

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29redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

So dog, where does the money come from to pay the union leaders salaries? Do the union leaders have the same benefit package as the rank and file? I would think they would. It would set a good example, don't you think?

Awaiting your reply.

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30rocky14(728 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey redvert--Obama is looking into salaries of corp. ex who they bailed out.That's all.

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31redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey redvert--Obama is looking into salaries of corp. ex who they bailed out.That's all.

Just a start of what he wants to control, just a start.

A CZAR for everthing!

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32redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Yea dog, I am sure you do want my question to be off topic.

Tell you what, you don't need to answer it. I think we all know the answer. But that is the workers choice if they want the job and that is fine. Freedom of choice is what it is all about!

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33Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

Hey dog !

Can we discuss this ? UFCW rank and file may want to know also .

What I would like to know is what kind of an audit is being done to verify that union funds are being properly handled . How are the very high salaries at UFCW justified ? Top union officials should be subject to a criminal background check and the results made available to the union workers whose dues are being cycled to questionable channels .

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34UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

The UFCW has it all wrong. They are not helping the workers in the store by picketing. They should be doing card signing instead so the workers get a vote. My guess is they can't get enough of Henry's workers to sign a card since there has been no vote. They shopuld just go away.

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35mc1061(2 comments)posted 5 years, 4 months ago

When I was a freshman in college, I worked at Kroger in Boardman (where Giant Eagle is now located on 224). They worked me for 19 weeks and then laid me off so they wouldn't have to pay unemployment, which they didn't have to anyway - because I was a student, at the time I couldn't even get part-time unemployment.

At any rate, after being laid off for weeks and weeks, they called me back for ONE DAY. They told me as part of the union contract I had to come back or get fired. So, I went to work, even though I wasn't supposed to because I had fallen off a step-stool at home while I was helping my mother wash walls to get ready for Christmas and had a very sore, almost slipped disk about halfway down my back.

When I went to work, I asked to get put on the Express checkout because I wasn't supposed to lift anything. They usually gave Express to women who were older who had worked there for years and they weren't "supposed" to let me have Express. However, they did it to be "nice". Now, after working with an extremely sore back for six hours, which meant I got ONE fifteen-minute break to sit down, I went home. Imagine my surprise when I got paid and ended up with $8.00 because the union took out two-months' worth of dues. I quit that job and ended up working as a part-time secretary with much better hours and an employer who was very understanding of my college schedule. Funny, I made as much as the people at Kroger who were students. I worked at my new job until I finished school and I still keep in touch with the people I worked for.

They couldn't do anything to keep me working, but the UFCW could certainly take my entire paycheck for its dues.

I will NEVER support the UFCW in anything they do because of that incident. It was close to 30 years ago, and I am still angry about it.

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36redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

mc1061, thanks for your input. Don't feel that you are being slighted by the fact that you did not get a reply from the UFCW folks on your first post. You may still get one but I am not surprised that you haven't up to this point.

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37thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

“Don’t you think everybody should have equal amounts of pay and health benefits?”

No Tammy, that is why we American love competition. Where is the motivation to excel in your craft? Rewarding mediocrity is absolutely ridiculous!! If an individual wants to better themselves, they should be given the incentive to prove they are of higher value than their competition. Unions too often allow slackers amongst their ranks.

Each and everyone of you know certain teachers who should have been fired years ago, but we cannot do that, the teacher's union is too powerful. Even union members working the line at Lordstown have been frustrated at times with lazy members of the 'team' who have no fear of losing their jobs.

The bottom line is creating drive within the individuals by providing incentive to better themselves, will result in a more productive and efficient workforce. That will drive down costs to the consumer because more competition in an industry benefits the paying customer. Case in point, how does Toyota and Hyundai make a higher quality and less expensive automobile than Government Motors? Correct, by not having a union workforce. The glory days of unions are all but gone due to globalization. You might have your last 'Savior' throwing a couple of bones of thanks to the UAW, but the American Taxpayer will only put up with so much before sending our bumper sticker President packing!!

Regards,
PS

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38VickyCpf(1 comment)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I can guarantee that these kids are NOT paid nor were they asked to do this by Mr Nemenz. They are NOT anti-union either. Just as the union has the "right" to picket, so do these kids. They are standing up for something that they believe in. IGA does pay comparable wages and benefits to his employees, and I believe it is the employees right to decide if and when they want to unionize. These young people picked Struthers to start their adult lives, they bought homes there, they work there, they SHOP there. They were tired of being judged every time they pulled into IGA parking lot. I agree with the comment made earlier, 90 days is enough time to get your informational picket information out there.... come on people...2 years???!!!

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39Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well dog,

What I would like to know is what kind of an audit is being done to verify that union funds are being properly handled . How are the very high salaries at UFCW justified ? Top union officials should be subject to a criminal background check and the results made available to the union workers whose dues are being cycled to questionable channels .

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40Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

http://www.ufcwexposed.com/corruption...

Embezzlement
In recent years, UFCW labor bosses have faced charges of corruption, mismanagement, and embezzling member dues. Recent examples include:

The February 18, 2007 edition of the Bergen County Record highlighted major funding problems for UFCW Local 174's pension plan, which was funded at only 62 percent of the money needed to pay its future obligations. Anything under 65 percent, the Record noted, is generally considered in "crisis." How did this happen? Fewer people have joined the union or worked in the industry, meaning that shrinking numbers of participants have to pay for retirees. In fact, current workers account for only 14 percent of the pension's participants while nearly 64 percent of the plan participants were already drawing retirement checks. In this light, it becomes clear why desperate UFCW leaders' are attacking employers across the country - to get new dues-payers to pick up the bill for current members.

Former UFCW International secretary-treasurer Joseph Talarico pled guilty to his role in embezzling $2 million from Local 1. He was ordered to pay $1.1 million in restitution. In related indictments for defrauding UFCW, his son was sentenced to a year in prison and ordered to repay $81,000 in embezzled funds; his daughter was sentenced to a year of probation and ordered to repay $26,000; and his brother pled guilty to embezzling $650,000 from the union. Together, the four family members made more than $1 million in salaries from the local in 1996.

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41Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

dog:

No need to spoon feed me . I probably already have it in my database.

What do you think about criminal background checks for union leadership ?

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42Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lets not try to dust over the facts . UFCW is a dysfunctional union .

UFCW PICKETERS

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/vall...

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43Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

LET'S GET TO THE CORE OF UFCW CORRUPTION !

UFCW GOUGING WORKERS PAYING DUES TO THE MAX !

A full investigation of UFCW by the FBI is warranted to protect the integrity of the union .

Let's compare top salaries. UFCW vs UAW .

2006 TOP

UAW Ron Gajeski $173,904.
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi....

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44redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"If you support Henry, you will loose my business."

dog,
I assume that your business must be too tight! Sorry, he is not going to LOSE my business!

Why will you not comment on mc1061's post. Explain why the union deducted union dues for a time when she wasn't working. Sounds to me that she was called back to work for one day so the union could get their hands on extra union dues!

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45MrsMac(13 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I have talked to several of the Nemenz employee's who don't want the union. With Giant Eagle getting more expensive every day, and providing less customer service everyday, we need competition in this area. I won't shop Giant Eagle even if the other stores close. I will drive out of the area to avoid them!

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46Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

JUST THE TRUTH DOG:

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi....

The February 18, 2007 edition of the Bergen County Record highlighted major funding problems for UFCW Local 174's pension plan, which was funded at only 62 percent of the money needed to pay its future obligations. Anything under 65 percent, the Record noted, is generally considered in "crisis." How did this happen? Fewer people have joined the union or worked in the industry, meaning that shrinking numbers of participants have to pay for retirees. In fact, current workers account for only 14 percent of the pension's participants while nearly 64 percent of the plan participants were already drawing retirement checks. In this light, it becomes clear why desperate UFCW leaders' are attacking employers across the country - to get new dues-payers to pick up the bill for current members.

LOOTING THE RETIREMENT FUND ?
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

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47Chief178(57 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The Unions are done, they have done enough for Valley. All of the corruption, telling union workers how to vote what to think socialism at it's best and if you don’t do what leadership tells you to do you’ll get threatened and possibly beaten.

Nemenz does more for the area than the unions do.

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48hellsbells(116 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

If mc1061 had kept working, he/she might have learned more about the job. Like that in those days, a man could support his family in a quite respectable manner in a grocery job. It could be that the store was more concerned with those long term employees than one whose intention was to make it her second concern behind school, and then leave.
Even people who worked for grocery stores for a relatively short time get a pension now, because of those dues. That pension was funded with investments, unlike the choices that were made by UAW and the car companies.

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49jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The UFCW are not "brothers" to the UAW. Now I am not a big fan of the UAW, but they do give their members much more bang for their buck than the UFCW. UAW members make nearly twice what non-union auto worker counterparts make. I think that is true even after bankruptcy. UAW members are getting back more than they pay, and the union is doing its job for its members.

The UFCW pays similar wages to non-union establishments, and charges their members an initiation fee, high membership dues, back dues, etc. And, according to Indeed salary search, grocery workers in the Valley make 23% LESS than their counterparts across the country. Here is the link: http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=groce....

I would ask UFCW to explain this, but they never answer a direct question.

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50hellsbells(116 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I'm asking about the pension.

Everyone would have to agree that the wages of the non-union grocery workers are supported by competition with the union members. The non-union workers just ride on the work done by union members.
I was just in a great Krogers in Columbus. It was decorated like a Dillards, had a Starbucks, and a counter to taste wine before you bought, etc.
The prices were still less than or equal to ours.
Krogers is still union, right?

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51jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

While the wages of grocery workers are 23% less than the national average, UAW members enjoy the highest wages in the country for what they do. Some say they are the highest paid manufacturers in the world. That says a lot for the UAW. Toyota and Honda do not match UAW wages and benefits. No one does. If the UFCW got the wages up higher for their members, Nemenz could not match them (at least without raising prices). If non-union employers are just going to match what union shops pay, does it not make sense to work for a non-union employer? The UAW understands this, the UFCW does not.

Yes, Kroger is unionized, and here in the Atlanta area, Kroger has better prices than most competitors. But non-union Publix dominates the market, even with higher prices. Publix employees make more than Kroger employees, and they get stock options (Publix is privately held, but gives ownership to its employees). I like low prices, but I almost always shop at Publix. MUCH better shopping experience.

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52redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

PenguinBird, I will not argue with your opinion but the whole point in America is that we have freedom of choice. The radical union supporters (not all union supporters) do not believe in this. They feel it is their way or no way. Union rank and file must pay dues and have no say so on decisions or what happens to their money. They must keep their mouths shut and do as they are told if they want a job.

I love the fact that the Union shops always try to destroy the free thinking people of this country.

About enough of this for now, it is getting old!

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53Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Looting pension funds is criminal enterprise plain and simple . Can anything be done to end this deeply rooted habit ? Once the cronies get in control the only cure is for law enforcement to get involved . After a clean sweep oversight and legislation are the next steps .

With informational picketing, legislation needs to be introduced to limit it to sixty days . Beyond this point nothing is being accomplished and union funds are being wasted . Abuse of funds when the pension fund is in crisis is criminal .

Background checks for all union leaders is a no brainer . Why trust a criminal with your bank account ? Too many in the UFCW view it as their money and the do as they please with it . Salary and perk caps need to be put in place to control the no less that criminal salaries of far too many .

http://ufcwreform.org/articles/ufcw_o...

Dysfunctional and corrupt would best describe the UFCW . Do those who pay the dues deserve such representation ? Undoubtedly, some of these people started out as good, decent unionists; but have grown out of touch with the economic realities of those they represent.

Unfortunately, many are outright criminals who have cannibalized the UFCW membership in order to create an opulent lifestyle for themselves. It is now time to bring the FBI in to clean up the mess .

ROBERTSON THOMAS H $171,776 PRESIDENT UFCW LOCAL 880 OHIO

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54Eric(196 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

What freedoms do we have that Europe doesn't? I have been to Europe countless times. People live longer, crime is lower, and transportation is better. And how are Democrats trying to abolish the secret ballot?

I am no lover of unions, and I think they have done a lot of destruction. But keep in mind, the employees are the ones who vote to unionize. And keep in mind that unionization is directly related to state laws, that is why you hardly ever see unions in the south. What do the democrats have to do with that?

ProAmerican, all you do is make ignorant statements with absolutely nothing to back it up.

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55JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"I'm ignorant?"

By definition, yes. Among other things of course.

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56cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProMerkin....How many different unions did you belong too and why didn't you just work for a non union company? You enjoyed all they had to offer and now bad mouth them and their members. Your a low life, a hypocrite and a coward.

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57hellsbells(116 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The point of unions is job security, young one. You have much to learn.

Some unions don't have employees, preferring to do the work themselves. Some unions are, in fact, employers of unionized workers. The teachers' union is the employer of unionized workers. Seems weird, but it means they bargain their compensation and working conditions.

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58jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The point of unions is supposed to be to provide the employer with a top notch workforce in exchange for collective bargaining. Some unions still do that like the skilled trade unions, who do great things for their members. Top pay and top notch work. Again, the UFCW is not one of those unions. They just take. They don't have better pay than non-union counterparts, they don't have better benefits, better training, better job security, nothing. They are an income arm of the Democrats and the union bosses. Does anyone really dispute this?

And their members are now stuck paying people, out of their hard earned dues, to picket a non-union competitor. I really think people like beagles/mondo/god started this to make some extra money for himself, on the backs of his fellow workers. Because Giant Eagle wasn't paying him a living wage.

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59cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProMerkin...."I worked for union shops and I was forced into joining."

Your full of s**t. What are you telling me, you wanted to work for a non union company and someone dragged you down to a union company and forced you to go to work there. Like I said, your full of s**t.

You go out of your way to spout hate for unions and their members through your keyboard. You went to work and never one time did you return money you were overpaid or benefits you didn't deserve. You kept it all. Anything past generations sacrificed for you gladly took. You never expressed your hatred to the people you worked next to all those years. You sit there like the troll typing out the hate the rattles around in your empty head, knowing the misery your life must be makes me smile. Coward.

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60tinamarie(2 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

i shop at iga and i will continue

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61Eric(196 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProAmerican, have you ever even been to Europe? I have been there many times, including a stint of living there. Let's take your comments one at a time.

Proletariot cars? And you live in Youngstown? LOL. Some of the worldest finest cars are built in Europe. BMWs and Mercedes' are prevalent. They do have a variety of small cars, but so what? I don't see how what they drive is any worse than over here.

Variety of produce? I'm not sure what European supermarket you have been shopping in. The ones I've been in had pretty much the same things as US supermarkets.

Yes, gasoline is very expensive in Europe. However, you have to take it in the context of culture. Their mass transit is excellent, so a large amount of gasoline isn't required. I spent a month in England and never had to get in a car.

Although I never had to have emergency medical care in Europe, I never heard of anyone complain about the speed of their healthcare. Ambulances were always available in an Emergency. But I do know that I had to go to the ER here in the states, and I waited 4 hours for some stitches.

I am quite aware of the EFCA, and it sounds like you have been watching FOX News too much. The EFCA doesn't eliminate the secret ballot; it puts the decision to use the secret ballot in the hands of employees instead of the employers, as is done now. And the secret ballot isn't currently required-the employer can allow unionization through the check card process.

The southern states are different in that workers aren't required to join the union, even if >50% of fellow workers approve. That is why unions have such a hard time getting a foothold in the South. That is a state issue, and has nothing to do with Obama. But the decision to join a union is ALWAYS left to the workers. If less than 50% approve, no union. And that is one of the issues in this article.

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62cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Search....Let me try to explain a very simple concept to you that I doubt anyone but you and ProMerkin fail to grasp.

Nobody is ever forced to work for a company. People choose to go to work for a company. If there is something about a company you don't like don't go to work there.

There are companies that choose to have dress codes, codes of conduct, drug testing, union labor, non union labor and on and on. When you go to work in the real world you don't get to make the rules. If a company CHOOSES to use union labor and you CHOOSE to work there then you CHOOSE to belong to the union Their rules not yours.

You might want to sign up for a history class and read up on what the working conditions were in this country a hundred years ago. Read up on who built this country and continues to do so and read up on what generations of union workers earned in working conditions for both union and non union workers alike.

You should also go beck and read the cowardly comments by ProMerkin about unions and their members after he took advantage of all the sacrifice of those that came before him.

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63abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

http://www.internationalsocialist.org...

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64abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I imagine some will read the first few sentences, and begin to hurl nasty "kill a commy for mommy", "socialism does not work" (and other rhetorical and political catch-phrases without much critical thought behind their utterance)..but it would behoove you to read the entire thing

http://www.internationalsocialist.org...

you know if you have the scholarly aptitude to read something more than a few paragraphs, even if it is an opposing viewpoint...it's called critical thinking.

You have to know that Capitalism and exploitation are inseparable and go hand in hand...look at the word "capitalize" ...

just read, I'm not even asking anyone to agree, but just to read and soak in this viewpoint...
http://www.internationalsocialist.org...

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65juror(3 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

First of all, Frattarolli's Sparkle in Struthers is the dirtiest store I have ever entered in my entire life. About a year ago, I went in to buy a box of baby cereal. I got one off of the top shelf and it had been gnawed into by a rat, mouse, or equally disgusting rodent. There is a layer of dust on every surface, and every time i go there, there is a different crew of highschool children working. I have not been back since the cereal incident. Instead, i go to IGA. The people who work there are always polite. They smile and look into my face. It is clean. I prefer it.
Secondly, i have not opinion one way or another on unions in general. However, this instance is ridiculous. This is not about informing the workers of IGA of choices. It is clearly about shutting down an area business. It's about bullying. Those picketers are paid bullies and should be ashamed of themselves. Perhaps that union money would be better spent by paying the picketers to go clean sparkle.

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66abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

haha, Unions.
The local 11 guild (the union of the Vindy workers, except for the writers) in 1997 organized a near-strike, and at the time I was a young college student working as a driver (I carried bulk newspapers to carriers, stores and vending boxes). I was also at the bottom of the scale making 5.75 an hour. Tony Markota and all the local 11 guys got us all motivated for the strike, but at the bargaining table (to make long story short) the District Managers and older drivers (the ones under the old name and who made more than us who did the same thing only we were under a new name) got what they wanted, but failed to do any fighting for us "new drivers" (oh yeah we got a .25 cent raise over 3 years), but soon as the D.M.s got what they wanted the bargaining was over and strike cancelled...what about us? Well, seems our support was no longer needed, and it was time to get back to work so the D.M.s could ride around in the station wagons all day making 18.25 an hours for doing virtually nothing.

Unions are business too...real workers organizations are the workers themselves, independent of any union.

Todo MUNDO por Socialismo ahora!!!

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67abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

a response is cool I guess, but really not needed and not what I was aiming for.

There is no response that can change my mind to favor a system that relies (and always has relied) on exploitation of the many by the few to benefit the few...

The main reason is people don't WANT it to be right, but deep down, everyone who has a heart (term used metaphorically) knows it's wrong to exploit the many for benefit of the few...even some facets of American society will use that credo (majority rules) even when making life and death decisions we will sacrifice a few lives for the salvation of many more..another demonstration of the hypocrisy of the U.S.A. ( a land stolen and built on the backs of free labor and sustained by toppled governments and puppet regimes...these are the by-products of capitalism)

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68abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

oh yeah, one more thing,...peep Kissenger's way of maintaining the "interests of the United States" and how he planned to maintain America's capitalistic agenda's:
http://wlym.com/text/NSSM200.htm

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69abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

“Don’t you think everybody should have equal amounts of pay and health benefits?”

YES TAMMY , I do, Americans love competition but is what inspires wars, underpriveldged classes, subsequent economic crime (petty and at the white collar level)...

because competition is what inspires conspiracy and uneven playing fields, advantageous circles, and exclusionary/discriminatory practices etc etc.

The notion that equality would inspire laziness is a non-intelligent (as well as ignorant) standpoint, as if someone would ONLY want to make a contribution to society for monetary and personal gains..if so this says that America is a greed inspired, self-centered society, which by the way - it is, thanks to capitalism...

a quote from http://www.internationalsocialist.org... :
"Aha!" comes the response. "You’d pay a brain surgeon the same as you’d pay a truck driver! Then no one would put in the work to become a brain surgeon....Such a statement is telling about the priorities of capitalist society--that the only reason people would try to heal the sick is for money. Without financial incentive, the logic goes, no one will pursue work that requires a lot of education, training, and skill....What a travesty! Socialism would be about giving people the opportunity to do what they really want. It would encourage them to become doctors, scientists, artists, or anything else they might desire--unlike now, where people’s access to education is limited by their access to cash."

and as far as this "American tax payer..." garbage, they will complain about ANYTHING that involves taxpayer dollars..whats the use of paying taxes then? and fact is that less than 1% of "American taxpayer dollars" is used for "socialist programs" the bulk is on Defense Spending, or more appropriately - The Attack Budget.

Only a country that repeatedly attacks and engages in all kind of meddling in other country's affairs for their own greed needs scores and caches of weapons and surveilance such as the U.S. does...

my house was once raided by YPD because I had security cameras around my front door! The warrant said that it was "...indicative of nefarious activity..."
a friend of mine got 2 years in Fed prison cuz he had a bullet proof vest!

So what does Americas weapons and hi tech surveilance indicate?

the tax payer has his mistaken the identity of his enemy. and as far as the "American taxpayer" having it up to here (so to speak):
I quote Trotsky:
"But at those crucial moments when the old order becomes no longer endurable to the masses, they break over the barriers excluding them from the political arena, sweep aside their traditional representatives, and create by their own interference the initial groundwork for a new regime…. The history of a revolution is for us first of all a history of the forcible entrance of the masses into the realm of rulership over their own destiny."

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70abtech(48 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"spreading propaganda" there is one of those age-old phrases that cast negative stigmatization on revolutionary ideas...

but really, everything is "spreading propaganda" if it is involving ideas being tossed out.

cant' wait to see your response...e-mail it to me at teccnickle@gmail.com so it doesnt get lost in the massive thread.

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71POOLJUNKIE1977(12 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

It's stunts like this that gives unions everywhere a bad name. I'm not the biggest fan of the union and the "union tactics", but I'm not totally against the union either. With today's economy the way it is there has to be some point where the unions needs to stop protecting the NOT so honest and hard working American. I also agree, 90 days and the picketing should be over, time to have the employees vote yes or no, case closed, and move on to the next store.

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72Eric(196 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProAmerican, what are you talking about Europeans don't have the luxury to drive American cars? What, cars that are unreliable and fall apart? Wake up. Obviously, Americans don't have the luxury to drive American cars either...Ford is the only American car company that hasn't been in bankruptcy. You really want to compare American cars to the likes of Mercedes, VW, and BMW? Give me a break.

Never once in my time in Europe did I see a women giving birth in an elevator. Europe has a much lower infant mortaliy rate than the US. If women really are giving birth in elevators, they must be a lot better than US delivery rooms.

The EFCA has nothing to do with state law. Even if the EFCA is passed, workers in Southern states will still be able to decide to join the union or not. I am no lover of unions, and I fully support that choice. The EFCA will have no effect.

I revise the statement I made before about you. Not only have you never been to Europe, it sounds like you have never even been out of Youngstown. You are just another talking head .

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73Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001...

Union Pensions in the Red
Labor chiefs are doing better than the workers.

Or consider that 26 pension funds at the food workers union, the UFCW, are at 58.7%. Seven locals at the United Brotherhood of Carpenters fare better at 67%. As a rule of thumb the government considers a fund to be “endangered” at below 80%, and in “critical” status at below 65%, and requires them to come up with a plan to get off probation within a decade.

You don’t hear labor leaders touting this kind of performance in their organizing riffs, and not many workers are patient enough to review the Form 5500 filings submitted to the IRS and Department of Labor that track these retirement savings. But the data show a steady decline in recent years that can’t be explained merely by the stock market.

LOOTING THE RETIREMENT FUND ?
UFCW Don Hunsucker $679,949

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74Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Sooooo mondo50200 what do you think about the sad shape that the retirement accounts at UFCW are in ?

Two posts ? You must be a newby here . What is your status at the UFCW ?

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75Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Education_Voter:

The UFCW pension plan is in far worse shape than any of the others . Perhaps when the FBI and the auditors have finished the problem should be resolved . The UFCW leaders pensions are funded at 100% .

Dog had a backup ID as satan that is still viable . Our new poster mondo50200 may be able to shed some light on the matter .

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76cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Educated_Voter....I agree with you on the point that god was banned and ProMerkin can post even though his post are the most vile of anything posted on this board. I think the only conclusion you can come to is that the Vindy is more in line with ProMerkins way of thinking.

The Vindy has removed his post many times when he crossed their line. I don't know how many times that has to happen before you are banned but he obviously hasn't reached that point.

Believe it or not ProMerkin actually restrains himself. He by know means posts what he really wants to say. Not even close. I would rather he not be censored at all. I think he should be permitted to post whatever he would like. It's important for people to know what kind of scum walks among us.

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77Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

mondo50200:

Dog has a mind of his own . I don't have a link to his computer via remote desktop so I can't be responsible for his typing .

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78Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

A true discussion mondo ? Ok then . What is your status at the UFCW ?

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79cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

mondo50200....My post in no way is an endorsement of god being banned from this board. If you read it that way you are mistaken. I didn't see how anyone would be offended by anything I read from his posts.

I'll stick by my statement that the Vindy must be more in line with the ProMerkin way of thinking. If thinking is what you would want to call it.

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80Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well mondo, so much for a discussion from you . I see that your idea of a discussion is not in a normal scope of reality .

Lets look at these facts:
The UFCW workers pension plan is in far worse shape than any of the others .The UFCW leaders pensions are funded at 100% .

Why is it that the leaders pensions are funded at 100% but the rank and file are in shambles ? Do the workers who pay dues and toil have a lesser value to the hierarchy ?

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81Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So dog you are SickofStan ? It is good to see you back . What is wrong with the satan id of yours ? I see that mondo50200 woke up from a long slumber. For saying that I should be ignored you sure are going overboard with your attention .

LET'S DISCUSS THIS:

The UFCW workers pension plan is in far worse shape than any of the others .The UFCW leaders pensions are funded at 100% .

Why is it that the leaders pensions are funded at 100% but the rank and file are in shambles ? Do the workers who pay dues and toil have a lesser value to the hierarchy ?

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82Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Hmmmmmmm . . ..

LET'S DISCUSS THIS:

The UFCW workers pension plan is in far worse shape than any of the others .The UFCW leaders pensions are funded at 100% .

Why is it that the leaders pensions are funded at 100% but the rank and file are in shambles ? Do the workers who pay dues and toil have a lesser value to the hierarchy ?

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83Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well dog, UFCW contributed to and endorsed Jim Traficant in the past . So what point are you trying to make ?

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84Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Ah dog, why do I get the impression that all of your friends have found you not so useful anymore and that is your reason for being so bitter . Your inability to hold a discussion seems to be a lack of information for you to be relevant .

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85Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

SUPPORTING REAL VALUE !

VERY INFORMATIVE !

http://talesfromtherustbelt.blogspot....

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86Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well dog, you sure did you get shortchanged since you have none of these qualities ..

"They prefer to win people over with logic, common sense, and a pleasant attitude. "

The truth is that neither I nor anyone else owes it to you to patronize Giant Eagle's atrocious pricing . Your ways have repulsed people from shopping Giant Eagle . The atmosphere at Save A Lot and IGA along with pricing is much better . The fact that you are not making any friends is a bitter pill for you to swallow .

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87Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You seen to be upset today. Perhaps you need your medication reevaluated . I doubt that the world is going to adjust to suit your anticipations .

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88Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

POSTED BY SickofStan
"They prefer to win people over with logic, common sense, and a pleasant attitude. No one curses or badgers Henry's customers. It's all smiles and waves."

First of all lets look at his login ID . This fellow who wont discuss the issues within UFCW has some deep seated psychological problems . How many other posters here use an ID that shows their hatred of someone who doesn't share their views ? His portrayal of how they win over people is distanced from the truth . Their actions are not all smiles and the hatred toward those who dont do their biddding runs deep .

The UFCW is a organization whose priorities are its leaders and extorting money from businesses who they have targeted . The rank and file are virtual slaves who are then milked of their dues to fund the lifestyles of the upper echelon . The benefits to the workers are mainly strike organization to milk more money from the business and a pension fund .

Lets take a look at the pension fund . The fund is underfunded . So what is underfunded ? It means that there is not enough money there to pay the pensions of those currently paying dues . So then they get no pension ? Their system is a pyramid . The dues of new members pays for the pensions of the older workers . What happens if the new member quota is not reached ? Like any pyramid it collapses .

How about the UFCW leaders pensions ? Are their pensions in jeopardy ? No . Why not ? Their pension is funded at 100% and no further money is need to be paid in by new members . The UFCW leaders are special .

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89Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

As time gone on and the people are informed the antics of the UFCW will either escalate or fade into the sunset . Market value vs market share is where poor quality , poor performance and atrocious pricing are enhanced with copious quantities of BS . Competition is where mediocracy in desperation tries to eliminate their competitors .

The value conscious shopper will choose Save A Lot and IGA over Giant Eagle every time !

GET THE STATISTICS ON UFCW
http://unionfacts.com

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90Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

THE UFCW's DOWN AND DIRTY MAFIA TACTICS

THE FBI SHOULD TAKE ACTION AND BRING CHARGES AGAINST THEM

http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_h...

The union has engaged a war to the hilt strategy against the grocer even to the extent of surreptitiously placing expired products on store shelves and then calling authorities as if it was the store chain itself allowing those expired items to stay on sale. The union has also filed dozens of harassing and false lawsuits as well as opening uncounted EEOC investigations attempting to force the business to acquiesce to union demands

Proving that what workers want is of no interest to unions, rejection by employees is not good enough for the UFCW, however. The food workers union has used every weapon at its disposal to tear down the food chain and force its own will on workers and business alike.

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91redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

SickofStan, You just proved that your are in fact, dog!

In your post # 135 you said, "It's beyond me why you still insist that I am dog. Who is dog? Did you loose your dog as a child."

Now go back to post #49 where I was replying to a incorrect spelling of the word "lose" by dog in a previous post. (This was one of dog's posts that had been deleted). You used the same spelling in the deleted post where you were claiming that businesses that support Henry will "loose" your business.

Coincidence, I don't think so!

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92Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The UFCW is not a friend unto the workers or the public . They have turned into an organization that has perverted all good intentions of those who originally formed it . Today they are all about milking their rank and file to maintan opulent lifestyles for their hierarchy .

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93redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Give it up dog, you have been busted and you know it! The only reason I even bothered to post on this old subject was to nail you on this. Attention to detail there doggy! I may be a "old fart" but I have a good memory. It is true that a spellchecker would not catch this because it is a viable word. The point is that most posters go back and reread their posts to catch mistakes in spelling and to be sure that they say what they wanted to say. Now I can understand one person making this mistake if they innocently think that "loose" is the spelling they want but what are the odds of two "different" posters thought to be the same person using the same incorrect spelling?

What you need to do is log on as a different poster again and use loose in place of lose to show that it is a common mistake. Then everybody will believe you...

I am out of here!

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94jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

The reason mondo, god, dog, whatever, is picketing Nemenz is to create a part time job for himself. I really think that’s it, no other reason. The Giant Eagle union members are complacent and don't realize (or care to realize) how their money is funding his part time job. This is why I want to find out the guy's name, look to see how much he is making off his fellow workers, then start informing Giant Eagle union members of how much they are paying him to run around making a fool of himself. Hopefully the union members will start to pressure their local to stop wasting their hard-earned money on crap like this. We’ve beat these slimeballs from the outside in ways I never thought I'd see. The vast public is on our side. Now lets get them from the inside.

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95cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Hey Vindy, Why do you keep deleting posters and their post? It's obvious that you agree with the views of the several posters that commented before mine but does that mean if you disagree with people like Stan and ProMerkin your run off the site? Very weak. Never been so glad I moved away.

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96redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

cambridge, it is because when you start to resort to the same crap that got you booted the first time you get booted again. Remember the first time when tiredofstan AKA 6beagles informed everyone that from that point on he would refer to a certain poster using a obscene reference. Perhaps that got by you or you were okay with it.

Everybody gets a little hot from time to time but we do not need to let this turn back to the garbage forum we saw before the format changed a year or so ago. Act close to civilized and there is no problem!

If you are so glad you left, why do you still post?

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97cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

redvert.....Civilized? Are you kidding me? Do you think ProMerkin's posts are civilized? How many posts of his and Stan have had to be taken down? They weren't kicked off the board. You've had post removed and none of you have been kicked off this board. Why couldn't the Vindy just take his post down like they did with you three? My guess is the Vindy thinks the same way the three of you do.

I'll ask you again. Do you think ProMerkin's posts are civilized?

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98Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well Cambridge I don't hide my conservative views but I haven't registered at The Vindy with a new ID as TiredofXXXXX or SickofXXXXX . Fill in the X's with any ID that I have shared my views with . Dog just got disgruntled and couldn't debate . The facts overwhelmed him . I'm sure that he does well in telling the UFCW pickets how to march .

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99redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

cambridge, you deserve a answer. I do think that ProAmerican has pushed the limit from time to time, same as you, Stan and myself. The one thing that none of us has done is try to play games with the Vindy by going behind it's back and and logging in as a number of different posters. ie:
"6beagles"
"tiredofStan"
"dog"
"sickofStan"
Is it that hard to figure out?

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100Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Spoken like a true coward. Long time reader, first time poster. Those guys destroyed you, and I saw mondo's last post this morning. You three are nothing more than the thugs you cry about. Sure, big guys, with big mouths when the ones you had removed cannot challenge you anymore. Only children do as you have done. And this jethed is practically stalking the guy. He wants to know his name, how much he makes, now that sounds threatening. Cambridge is right. The vindy never wipe out entire posters before. Why now?

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101Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Where is the vindy's proof that these posters are one and the same? All I've seen is innuendo. No proof! What if mondo was right, all posters were either friends or family? Guilt by association? Come on, we've all seen what happens to a society that travels that path.

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102jethead11(139 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout, I am not stalking this guy. I think the members of his union need to know what he is up to and how much of their money he is taking. Don't you think his "brothers" should have that information? I really don't care one way or another about him, but I am determined to stop what they are doing. If people were freely donating to him to picket, then fine. The people he is taking from are mandated to pay dues so he can go out and make a pain in the butt out of himself. Not just him, all of the picketers and especially the organizers. If they can't take the heat, they should find another part time job, one where people pay them freely, not by threat of losing their job. Any problem with that? Do you find informing his employers (Giant Eagle union members) threatening? If so, good.

And your last post asks what proof the Vindy has. Each computer has a unique ID, and they can see who posts by that ID. The rule is you can only post using one name, That goes for me, you, and him. Even union thugs have to obey the rules.

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103cambridge(3101 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So Jon, Kate and the kids would have needed 10 computers?

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104Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Let's face it cambridge, proamericon sidestepped the issue of his own mafia thug tactics of 'rubbing out mondo' and jethed tried to justify his unjustifiable position. We still haven't heard from spelling bee redvert or crystal ball Stan yet. They don't want the truth out there, because they know it will be their undoing. And don't dare mispell loser, you'll be banned for sure.

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105redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Are you referring to the bald headed kids?

We remembered!

Come on cambridge, you can laugh! If we can't laugh at ourselves we can't laugh at others!

Don't know how the Vindy has their system setup. Maybe it only allows one post from each computer ID to discourage multiple logins by one person.
Have to ask them.

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106timOthy(802 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I just wish this owner would clean up his stores they dirty. Maybe he can't afford a janitor !

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107Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So what you are saying redvert is that the vindicator policy on posting online may be flawed. A policy like that would silence individuals in a family from posting their own unique thoughts on any given subject if they did not have the means to afford multiple computers or Internet capable devices. And what about wi-fi devices? All have unique identifiers, but once routed through the wi-fi device, they come out with it's identity only. If that device is open ( not password protected), anyone, including neighbors could piggyback off the signal, showing a false I'd point of origin.

I think that given the evidence above, those posters should be reinstated, along with their posts, where they were, and policy changed.

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108Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout's General Information
Joined: Aug. 31, 2009

Well dog AKA Lastmanout what path does UFCW travel down ? I see that the satan ID of yours is still active . Saving it for something special ?

It is you who doesn't want the truth out there . You are all about suppressing the truth so as not to upset the apple cart with your rank and file . I am all for exposing the truth right down to a full FBI investigation of UFCW . This needs to be done to restore the integrity of UFCW to its former self and to the intent of those who first formed UFCW .

Perhaps you would like to discuss the agenda of UFCW and the path in which it is heading ?

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109Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Ahh, finally whe have a retort from the crystal ball specialist himself. As I said in my first post, I just began posting. But thanks for letting every one know that I am not lying. You're AKA is interesting, but your crystal ball must be broke. I will not be drawn into an argument with you on anything. I merely post my thoughts. As for proameriCON, this was done intentionally. You must not read posts that well, for I never said anything about Nancy, etc. Go back and re-read them again.

I'll stick with my previous posts, in my opinion, you three are no better than those you seek to silence. That is all.

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110Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So crystal ball, just exactly what form of ideology do you subscribe to, Facism, communism, or socialism? It couldn't be democracy, for in that you would respect one to differ from yourself, without reprisals such as removal and such.

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111Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Oh, I left out Wahhabi, sorry about that crystal ball.

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112Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

" I just began posting."

Al Gore invented the internet also ! Silence ? Naw , I have enjoyed seeing you squirm when you couldn't refute the truth .

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113Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

As with most things, you misread the question. I was refering to an ideology, not a form of govt. I am well aware of our own form of govt.

fas⋅cism

 [fash-iz-uhm]

–noun
1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
com⋅mu⋅nism
 [kom-yuh-niz-uhm]
1.  (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party
 
so⋅cial⋅ism 
 [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

As far as my opinion on posters, it is based on first amendment values. You should agree that no one should silence anyone for their opinions, difer with them, yes, but to remove them, no.

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114Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

And yes redvert, I am aware of my spelling error on fascism, are you gonna say, " see there's proof he should be kicked off!" he can't spell blah blah blah

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115Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"As far as my opinion on posters, it is based on first amendment values. You should agree that no one should silence anyone for their opinions"

You and I both know that the first ammendment only applys to you and not others ,right ? I believe that information is good and that the UFCW rank and file be informed of the criminal history and actions of its leaders . Don't you agree ?

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116redvert(2100 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout, the only reason I logged in a couple days ago after getting tired of this thread a week before was that it was so easy to show the name trail that 6 beagles was using that I could not pass it up.

I thought I had said that you would have to ask Vindy what their policy was. JUST MY OPINION but if the Vindy does restrict the logins to just one per computer it may be because some people will try to go behind the Vindy's back if they are kicked off. Hmmmm!

Before leaving this thread for hopefully the last time I will go back and see where it was that I claimed that the Vindy policy was flawed.

Of course, if I see something that is just too good to ignore...

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117Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Hey CON, I don't believe in fascism, communism, or socialism. Merely thought you'ld like to know the definition of the words you often use. Maybe then you wouldn't make yourself look so foolish when describing others. I know it's a long shot, but I'm trying.

As far as the rest of you ( crystal ball and spelling bee ) I am only pointing out what I see. If you want to make something from nothing, I can not stop you, nor should I. You are free to make fools of yourself anytime. Which by the way is most of the time. I'm done for today. Too nice outside for this crap.

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118Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"As far as the rest of you ( crystal ball and spelling bee ) I am only pointing out what I see."

What do you see ?

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119Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I see an old washed up loser that has to get the last word every time. I see a man so blinded by his loyalty to a loser, that he goes against his own upbringing. I also see a man DBA iga and Savealot that lied to save himself from prosecution, and helped the Feds do in one of the finest individuals this area has ever seen. I see a paper so bent on protecting their last grocer that advertises with them blot out any opposition to him for fear of lost revenue. That is what I see, crystal ball.

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120Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I see the future . . ...

FORMER UFCW INFORMATIONAL PICKETER GETS JOB WITH DIGNITY !

http://i44.tinypic.com/2u9rbrk.jpg

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121smeep226(5 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I am one of the Pro-Nemenz picketers and would like to say that Henry Nemenz did NOT in any way, shape, or form ask us to come to his store and picket. Is it free advertisement? Absolutely! But Nemenz wasn't behind it.
We originally started picketing simply because we were sick of seeing the union picketers there. I shop at Nemenz and I was sick of getting dirty looks and being made to feel guilty everytime I pulled in the parking lot. The employees at the store have come out and thanked us for what we're doing. They did vote on whether or not to have a union...and they voted NO! If it were the employees out picketing for the union then we wouldn't be there. Instead, it's people hired by the union (some of which don't even belong to the union) to bully the store into either doing what they want or closing down. The union wants more dues...and for what? To pay more people to picket at more non-union stores? It's rediculous.
The union can keep saying they aren't trying to shut the store down, but are you really dumb enough to believe them? They're signs clearly say "Don't Shop Nemenz" right on them. If people were to actually do that, what do you think is gonna happen? Exactly what happened in Hubbard!

We picketers are NOT anti-union....we simply recognize that the valley can use all the jobs it can get. And if the workers would rather work without a union, they have that right.

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122Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

There is no dignity in picketing a store that never employed you .

There is no dignity in trying to force people to lose jobs because they refuse to pay you union dues .

There is no dignity in wasting money picketing when your union is strapped and only the leaders pension fund is not at risk .

UFCW INFORMATIONAL PICKETING IS NOT DIGNIFIED !

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123Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Welcome smeep226! While I oppose your ideals, I welcome your input. Unlike some posters, I will judge you on the facts of your posts. You say there was a vote on a union held at the store in Struthers. Shouldn't be to hard to check against the NLRB website.

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124Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps smeep could enlighten me as to the date that election was held, because I can't find it in the records at the NLRB.

As far as being 'made' to feel guilty, I can only speak for myself here. No one can make me feel guilty. I either feel guilty or not. Your convictions must be weaker than mine.

If you would ask the union pickets, you would have known prior to posting that they all are indeed members of the union.

And yes, their signs say 'don't shop nemenz non union store', but they also say 'support local 880 UFCW'. They ask you to shop union stores.

While you may enjoy the noise pollution you are creating down there, we that live here do not. I know that at least on one day, the woman on the corner pleaded with you people to stop the noise harrasment. You are not winning over any of our support with your actions. Some of your pickets for Nemenz have been heard yelling curse words at people driving by. There are children in this neighborhood. Please refrain from that in the future. In the time that the union pickets have been there, they have never done that.

I know crystal ball will dispute this, but he doesn't live here like I do.

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125Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"And yes, their signs say 'don't shop nemenz non union store', but they also say 'support local 880 UFCW'. They ask you to shop union stores."

You have cost Giant Eagle to lose business . Myself and my circle have chosen not to support atrociously high prices . I save enough in one month to drive my car for two .

Now to cut down on noise pollution and to quit cluttering up the area the UFCW picketers should get real jobs !

I see the future . . ...

FORMER UFCW INFORMATIONAL PICKETER GETS JOB WITH DIGNITY !

http://i44.tinypic.com/2u9rbrk.jpg

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126Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

FROM THE ARCHIVES . . ..

17-0 aint gonna pay no union dues . ..

Tire department workers at a Wal-Mart in western Pennsylvania dealt a stinging defeat to Cleveland-based Local 880 of the United Food and Commercial Workers.

The workers voted 17-0 to stay out of the union, ending an almost five-year drive by Local 880 to organize the auto service department at Wal-Mart's New Castle, Pa., supercenter, about 20 miles southeast of Youngstown.

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127smeep226(5 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You are very right, lastmanout....I do have weak convinctions. This is why I take personal time out of my day after I get home from work to go stand outside with signs and show support for something I believe in. I hope you can sense the sarcasm. And yes, some of those picketers ARE union members, but others are also retirees and people that have been laid off from other jobs that have been recruited to stand with signs for something they have no person ties to and could really care less about.

A lady that was visiting from Texas came to us and told us that her son had just died and she really wanted to just lay down and asked that we stop for the day. And we immediately did. In fact, we even stopped for the following day as well out of respect for her situation. To say that she "pleaded" is a bit unfounded, however, because there was no need. Because unlike the union picketers (who roller their eyes and turned away from us when we tried to tell them what the lady had said), we DO care about the people in this community. That is exactly why we are there trying to help the local economy by keeping our local businesses open.

The union picketers may not have cursed but they do threaten us with violence, have friends that don't picket come and harass us and have even sexually harassed some of the girls in our group (and that goes for the union picketers and their friends). So as for the foul language, you are absolutely right that there have been a few occasions where that has happened after we've been provoked. And everytime the rest of the group puts that person in check. It doesn't make it right, but I would like you to know that we are aware that we shouldn't be doing that and are making an effort to stop our short-fused friends.

To say that the immediate community doesn't support us is just not true. We have people that live in the nearby houses come down and praise us for what we're doing. Some of them do say that they can hear the honking from their house, but never have they been upset about it. In fact, they think it's great. If there are people that are bothered by it they have never come to us.

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128spin(15 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I love the Store in Poland, I ignore those people with "Dont shop here" signs. I have to feed a family of 4, and I save 1/2 of my bill at Save a lot. Try shopping there, you'll save a ton of money.

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129Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Why didn't the woman come to the union pickets to explain herself? Perhaps it was the fact the union pickets weren't creating a scene as you were.

As for the other allegations that you say occur, I find them groundless, and a feeble attempt to sway favor to your side. The union pickets adhere to strict guidelines as to what their behavior is to be while on the line.

Now behavior from the public, whoever, is something that is out of their control. I do believe that in one instance, the picket captian told the mother of one of your pickets ( a nemenz cashier) that he would speak to the father of one of the locals that was getting a little to agressive towards one of your pickets ( and visa versa ). The incidents have as of now ceased. The union pickets are not, and have never been confrotational. They go out of their way to avoid it, as in the case above.

I will say this once more, the union pickets are active members. They are not unemployed.

I will concede one point with you. The local neighborhood does not all support the union, I would say it's 50/50.

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130Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I still haven't seen where and when that union election you said occured took place? Was it in a store meeting given by Henry?

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131Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

WHAT A JOKE !

"The union pickets adhere to strict guidelines as to what their behavior is to be while on the line."

"The union pickets are not, and have never been confrotational."

I have a picture of a picketer
heckling a customer at the Poland Save A Lot . I have another picture with one standing in front of the Save A Lot sign getting kidney relief . I have both in raw format from the camera which are dated and have the time .

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132smeep226(5 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

She didn't need to tell them because we told her that we would let them know what was going on. And as I said before, they completely blew us off and had no interest in what the woman was going through. To say that we cause a scene just isn't true. We stand with signs...the same things the union picketers do. Its only because WE GET SUPPORT that a scene is caused. And just as the union cannot control the general public on their side, neither can we.

You're right that the picket captain had said to stop a certain person from coming and bothering us...and for the remainder of that week it worked. Yesterday, however, that same person was right back over there standing with the captain as they showed pictures they'd taken of us to eachother while gesturing and laughing. It certainly is a step up from what has happened in the past, but still unnecessary & juvenile.

As for the past actions of the union picketers, regardless of whether you'd like everyone to believe it or not (as i'm quite positive you are either a union picketer or someone very close to them) there have been two complaints filed against them to the police for what they've done...one of which was not even filed by our picketers.

Most of the conflict has ceased since they moved the prime offenders to picket during the morning. I hardly see why they would have moved someone who was there every evening to be there in the mornings all of a sudden if they weren't fully aware of what had happened.

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133Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

THIS AYS IT ALL ABOUT THE SUPPORT THAT UFCW GETS !

"The workers voted 17-0 to stay out of the union, ending an almost five-year drive by Local 880 to organize the auto service department at Wal-Mart's New Castle, Pa., supercenter, about 20 miles southeast of Youngstown."

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134Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Now why don't I believe you smeep? Is it because your first post claimed a vote that was never held, or the allegations of misconduct and 'sexual harrasment.' Or maybe it was the story you told about what the woman said to your people. I think it was all of the above.

You see, like crystal balls allegations of heckling, or relieving ones self in public, had any of that occured, you could bet there would have been arrests. That has not happened. He claims to have pictures of these incidents, yet does not post them. He likes posting pics, what would stop him from doing it?

These things have never happened. They never will happen. They are winning the battle. Have you taken a look at his lot lately? More empty parking spaces by the day. People know a loser when they see one. All the grass skirts and clamshells on guys picketing won't bring them back. That's just weird.

But you keep on trying, holding signs that say 'honk'. The noise keeps them out.

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135Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

"That has not happened. He claims to have pictures of these incidents, yet does not post them."

"These things have never happened. They never will happen."

I had the pictures posted . UFCW didn't like the publicity and had them removed . Too bad the evidence still exists to document how you fine people trash a neighborhood .

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136Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

During an era of dwindling resources and failing pension plans the UFCW continues to waste money on warantless picketing . Somewhere down the road public money will have to bail out the pension plan of their rank and file . The hierarchy who makes the foolish decisions has their pension plan funded at 100% . With huge salaries and bonuses they are indeed fat cats out of control . We need legislation to put them under control .

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137Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So crystal ball, you are saying that the U.S. A. should start applying communistic ideals to all businesses, or just the ones you disagree with, because that is what you are proposing. I think that even your buddy Con would disagree with that approach.

But let's get back to the pics. You say the 'union' had your pics removed. I suppose you have proof that this occured. Or is it your allegation that they did? Again, without sound proof, you are once again just throwing something out there, in hopes of gleaning some support from those less likely to demand it. I am not such a person.

You and all the rest out there have a nice Labor Day weekend. Enjoy the fair.

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138Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I have the proof Lastdogout . Lets not kick up the dust trying to obscure your profile . I am pushing for legislation in DC to have the dysfunctional UFCW put under control . Thanks for the material .

CHECK OUT THE INFAMOUS UFCW
http://unionfacts.com

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139Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I promised myself I wouldn't respond to that last post from crystal ball, but I just had to, not about the pic thing, we all know that amusing story already.

It was about his pushing for legislation in good ol' DC. Perhaps you failed to catch this video on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu9qte...

I can't see anything getting by that veto. Ok, now I'm finished for this weekend, I hope.

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140Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout:

What is amusing is the lengths that UFCW will go to end the publicity of the pictures exposing their actions . They see nothing wrong with their deeds just the exposure of them .

The lobbying efforts of many besides myself are bringing the matter of a rogue union, the UFCW ,into the spotlight . Many people have spoken and the UFCW isn't endeared by the masses as they would like the public to believe .

CHECK OUT THE UFCW
http://unionfacts.com

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141Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So Dogbreath I see that you have another login . You can never have enough . Right ?

vindicatorsnightmare's General Information

Joined: Sept. 6, 2009
Comments:
Contact vindicatorsnightmare (log-in required)
Occupation: a s s h o l e
vindicatorsnightmare's Information (continued)
Birthdate: March 3, 1950

Zip code: 90210

Hometown: LA

Local stuff I like: anyone who hates stan

Local stuff I hate: Stan

UFCW UNION NEWS READ ALL ABOUT THE UFCW !
http://unionfacts.com

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142Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well dogbreath:

Too bad that I have a statement from tinypic that they pulled the graphics under pressure from the UFCW .

This one stayed because you didn't include it in your list.

NO LAP DOGS
http://i29.tinypic.com/21dnyuc.jpg

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143Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

That's funny, you have lied many times in the past . Now isn't any different .

I had to seek experts on cloning to determine the validity of the newborn on the grass being your brother . They assured me that the clone could encompass the legality of being your brother . I hope this clears up any misconceptions for others .

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144Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You sure are proud of your brother laying in the grass !

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145Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well dog, I dont support fecal matter .

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146Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES
http://i31.tinypic.com/34zfz1i.jpg

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147Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

YOU MAY HAVE REMOVED IT FROM TINY PIC BUT ITS STILL IN THE ARCHIVES !

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5903...

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148Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Information is good and meant to be shared with the public. Right ?

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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149Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

YOU MAY HAVE REMOVED IT BUT ITS STILL IN THE ARCHIVES !

vindicatorsnightmare:

Changing your profile didn't cover your tracks .

FROM THE ARCHIVES

http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1...

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150Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

That is a snapshot of your profile at the Vindy when you had nine posts . Posters remorse now ?

I had scanned the page for code when I first entered the website . There is no invasive code to harm a computer . Thanks for the concern .

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151Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Here is the complete file of the webpage snapshot .

http://www.plunder.com/vindicatorsnig...

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152Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

vindicatorsnightmare:

Well my UFCW union friend . Lets see . You listed your occupation as the big A word . I simply copied the text from your profile . After giving your profile some thought and being ridiculed for it you change your profile . This was a very wise move but you waited too long to do it . When you had nine posts I took a snapshot of your profile . I sure didn't have a remote link to your PC to do your posting . You are the one responsible for your profile and your posting .

Your profile posted on the Vindy was public information . Those picture hosting sites took the easy way out when you complained and removed the jpegs .

The biggest problem that you have is in reasoning . You seem to be devoid of any apptitude in this department .

A snapshot is a picture of a webpage as viewed on a monitor with a browser . The file when posted in an rtf format is integral . To manipulate the file it has to be in either a bitmap or jpeg .

Justice is seeing you for what you are .
http://unionfacts.com

HERE IS THE FILE IN AN RTF FORMAT

http://www.plunder.com/vindicatorsnig...

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153Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

ProAmerican:

The UFCW is besides themselves because they don't want any exposure . As long as the rank and file is being milked and are not rebellious all is well for them . When the rank and file catches on as to what is going on they will have some serious problems . Fully funded pension funds for the hierarchy and the pension fund for the rank and file being underfunded says it all . The money wasted for picketing non union stores in hopes of shutting them down would be better spent in shoring up the rank and file pension fund .

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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154Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Vindi'snightmare made perfect sense to me. Had to write down some post #'s and check the links, but I don't see where crystal ball gets off saying that his reasoning was off. Couldn't download that rtf whatever that is, so I'd have to say that Vindi got the better of you, crystal ball.

I, for one, can't wait to see the outcome of this one when tomorrow comes.

As for CON, you wouldn't know reasoning if it bit you in the keyster.

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155Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Oh vindi, that YouTube thing was AWESOME!!! I emailed it to all my friends. XD

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156Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So lastdogout I see that you tired of logging in as vindicatorsnightmare .

FULL WEBPAGE SNAPSHOT OF VINDICATORSNIGHTMARE PROFILE AT NINE POSTS

http://www.plunder.com/vindicatorsnig...

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157Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

And I suppose you get tired of logging in as spelling bee and CON!!! Get real crystal ball. I'll bet your mother had to tie a steak around your neck as a child to get the dog to play with you. Vindi was right about you, and you know it. All you do is attack. Your suppositions are way off base. Where do you get off making that allegation!!! Is this how you and your friends enjoy almost no opposition here. You badger and accuse if they don't agree with you.

I, for one, would like to know what the vindy's gonna do to you for useing foul words in your post. You should be banned.

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158Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

lastdogout:

What I find amusing is that you listed the big A as your occupation on your vindicatorsnightmare profile . Now that is funny ! Were you sober when you did that ?

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159Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

What I found amusing is that vindi got your good side in his video of you. An old crusty turd! That fits you.

You have no brains at all, do you. No wonder you are on Henry's side.

I do not need any of your 'you' (if you catch my drift) tonite. Merely trying to get caught up on this weekends posts.

I swear I don't know why I bother. I would get better results talking to a stiff.

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160Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I see that trickle down genetics bypassed you in the mental category . The highlight of your life is video taping fecal matter . What talent you have . But hey ! Your posting of being a big A in occupation was hilarious !

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161Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Is your next post gonna say something like 'i know you are, but what am I?'

I've heard that old turds can start to regress, but never seen it.

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162Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well lastdogout the UFCW under your leadership could achieve new humorous levels . Have you considered running for higher office ? You have my total support and endorsement .

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163Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

So predictable, yet so glaringly tendentious.

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164Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

OBAMA AT AFL/CIO PICNIC

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st...

"I've got a question for all these folks who say, you know, we're going to pull the plug on Grandma, and this is all about illegal immigrants you've heard all the lies. I've got a question for all those folks: What are you going to do? What's your answer? What's your solution? And you know what? They don't have one."

I'm not sure who the "they" are. His most damaging critic thus far has been the Congressional Budget Office, which has consistently found that the various Democratic proposals will cost approximately $1 trillion and will not accomplish the goal of universal coverage.

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165smeep226(5 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

lastmanout:

I'm not at all suprised that you claim all wrong doing by the union to be lies. And, quite frankly, I couldn't care less. Luckily, after about a week of the union taking pictures and video of us we decided to do the same and have some of their antics on tape. This, by the way, is how we were able to file a complaint against them (so obviously the cops didn't like what they saw either), and yet, for how many times they've taken pictures/video of us they've still had nothing to show for it.

Having learned from how the union reacted to posted pictures of them in the past, I know that it's not worth my time to put them up. However, if you'd like to tell me who you are I'd be more than happy to come to you and show them. But, I'm gonna guess you'll follow the lead of the rest of your union buddies and refuse to divulge any information.

I enjoyed your post telling me to ask the picketers if they were in the union or not. You already know that we have and that they refuse to tell us their names, where the work, or what position they are in. And this is even despite the fact that we are more than willing to share with them. Why is it that the union needs to stay so anonymous, anyway?

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166Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

smeep226:

You will find Lastmanout a little shy . His feelings have been traumatized by the fact that information about the UFCW that isn't complimentary has been made public .

I have invited him to debate the issues that the UFCW has an at risk pension plan for the rank and file while the leaders pension plan is fully funded .

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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167Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Picture taking is all the rage these days, if you don't believe me, ask crystal ball. He loves it. It gives him something to do with his photoshopping software.

The problem with posting them for public viewing is that almost any website has a TOS ( terms of service ) that prohibits any photo from being displayed for public consumption without the subjects written permission. That's where crystal ball ran into problems.

I imagine the reason the pickets were taking pictures of you were for reference purposes. I haven't seen any photos posted online of any of you, have you?

Let's face it, the pickets personal information is just that, personal. It is their perogative if they choose to divulge any info to you, or anyone else. Free country, right. With attack dogs like crystal ball, do you blame them? I don't!

Don't flatter yourself, crystal ball, you do not scare me. I remember you now. You were the one staggering around in Poland taking pictures of the pickets. I saw you. I do not fear you. I pity you.

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168Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Oh CON, are you THAT afraid of 3 or 4 pickets outside of Henry's stores. You should be. No one is arguing that the people at the stores in question are afraid to join the union. Being in Ohio, they can be terminated without just cause. Ohio is not a right to work state. Sure, the NLRB could fine Henry if it was proven that he did so, but much like WalMarts tactics, the fine is less than what they would have to give to the workers if they did form a union, and the worker(s) would still be on the outside looking in.

Henry would rather close his store than allow his workers to demand better wages, benefits, and working conditions. He did so in Hubbard, and will do so in Poland and Struthers if need be.

The union has never closed a store. It has always been the operator, and the community.

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169Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout:

We have seen UFCW union tacticts here at the Vindy . They like to cover their tracks . Their lies have been exposed and they couldn't suppress the truth . Mafia style deceit is the norm for the them .

The UFCW is desperate for funds and to eliminate the competition for Giant Eagle . They could care less about the workers at Henry's stores . If it wasn't for Henry many people would not have jobs . He has done a fine job in buying in bulk and keeping the prices low . During these tough economic times I and many others are grateful . May God bless Henry for all that he has done for us .

Now to the lies and the deceit of the UFCW . You have trashed up a couple of neighborhoods and the people in the area don't want you there . Take a hint and leave !

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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170Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Like I said to CON. The union merely wants the public to be aware that Henry could care less about anything other than his own pockets. What he did in Hubbard is proof.

I can understand your hatred of me, crystal ball. Although you have tried, you still do not know who I am. Am I a picketer, a union boss, or some one who just doesn't like to see workers used unjustly by their owner, operator? You may never know.

I will tell you this much, crystal ball, I will outlive you by at least 30 years. Now if I could only know where they will bury you, I could tell you with certainty, I would be happy to dance on your grave.

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171Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout:

You are just a flunky who manages some pickets . This is common knowledge as a person who knows you had mentioned a while back .

Now as to your wishes . They are very amusing . I thank God every day that I wasn't shortchanged in the mental department as you have been .

Now to the lies and the deceit of the UFCW . You have trashed up a couple of neighborhoods and the people in the area don't want you there . Take a hint and leave !

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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172epicfail(217 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Nice work Stan!

As a hubbard resident all the UFCW pickets did was:

1. Piss me off
2. Close the convenient grocery store near my home
3. Force me to shop at the non-union store / Giant Eagle

2 and 3 are forgivable but 1 is a capital offense.

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173Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

As you well know crystal ball, every poster's posts are logged in a convenient area for inspection. I invite you to prove your theory from those posts, not supposition and innuendo.

In my now 34 posts to all strings, I do not believe that you can justify your position. Not even 'insiders at the vindicator' can help you with this one.

I, on the otherhand, was present the day you shot those now deleted tinypic photos, but not from a vantagepoint that you were aware of. I dare say that I, too, had a few pics that day.

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174Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout:

I don't owe it to you to educate you on anything . As for any mystique in who you are there is none .

Managing some pickets makes you a flunky . Top management at the UFCW is amused that they can buy your time for so little .

Now to the lies and the deceit of the UFCW . You have trashed up a couple of neighborhoods and the people in the area don't want you there . Take a hint and leave !

UFCW FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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175Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I don't believe I asked you to teach me anything crystal ball. I am merely tired of you trying to say that I am someone other than myself. Same old tired posts from the same old tired poster.

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176Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout :

All the logins that were wiped out of yours says it all . When you can't refute the facts you get obsessed with attacking me .

Let's look at some facts . At the IGA in Struthers it is business as usual with the locals upset with your presence there . At the Save A Lot in Poland it is business as usual with the locals upset with your presence there .

By now you should be getting a clue that the people don't feel like paying the atrocious prices at Giant Eagle .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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177Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Again, all I can say is oh CON, or crystal ball, or whoever you choose to be, are you THAT afraid of 3 or 4 pickets outside of Henry's stores. You should be. No one is arguing that the people at the stores in question are afraid to join the union. Being in Ohio, they can be terminated without just cause. Ohio is not a right to work state. Sure, the NLRB could fine Henry if it was proven that he did so, but much like WalMarts tactics, the fine is less than what they would have to give to the workers if they did form a union, and the worker(s) would still be on the outside looking in.

Henry would rather close his store than allow his workers to demand better wages, benefits, and working conditions. He did so in Hubbard, and will do so in Poland and Struthers if need be.

I'm out of here!

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178Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout :

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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179Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I have noticed that you like refering to this website. Unionfacts.com, but were you aware of the dealings that the founder of that website. Take some time to find out about this socalled watchdog group. Looks like they could use a watchdog of their own.

http://bermanexposed.com/facts

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180Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

This guys a dirtbag. No wonder you like him crystal ball.

"Richard Berman

Richard Berman is the longtime president of the Washington, D.C.-based lobbying and consulting firm, Berman & Company, Inc. ("BCI") which specializes in strategic research and communications. Throughout the years Berman has been a stalwart supporter of business and industry over consumer, safety and environmental groups. Berman has fought unions, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, PETA and other watchdog groups in their efforts to raise awareness about obesity, the dangers of smoking, mad cow disease, drunk driving, the minimum wage and other causes. He has been described in the press as a "notorious D.C. lobbyist."

Berman founded and runs four tax-exempt front groups and a number of linked projects, focusing on food, tobacco, alcoholic beverages and labor. He is well-paid by the represented industries to serve as the executive director of all four organizations. Berman then uses his own lobbying and public relations firm to do work for the organizations, thereby channeling between 49% and 79% of all donations made to the groups into his own pocket."

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181Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

This information that follows is for the workers who will pull their heads out the sand long enough to read it. If any of this has occured to you, then you have been targeted. It doesn't matter whether or not an actual attempt at organizing has occured.

Seven Sophisticated Unionbuster Techniques

Supervisors as Frontline Soldiers: Supervisors, who themselves have no legally protected right to be represented by a union, are manipulated into delivering anti-union letters, speeches, and informal chats prepared by unionbusters, essentially doing the dirty work of the unionbusters and management.  
One-on-One Meetings: During organizing drives, 78 percent of workers are forced to attend closed-door or isolated meetings with supervisors.5   These aren’t friendly impromptu chats, but well-planned meetings to decipher employees’ feelings about the union and persuade them against the union. 
Captive Audience Meetings: So-called ‘captive audience’ meetings are held for employees during work hours to disseminate propaganda against union representation and to attempt to discredit the union.  Employees are almost always required to attend, but union organizers may be intentionally disinvited.  Often, the meetings are rigged so that workers who are already against the union are assigned to ask questions to sow misinformation.
Delay: Unionbusters often attempt to delay union representation elections by legal maneuvers so they have more time to implement other tactics needed to increase tension, dissension and the employer’s chance of winning the election.
Divide & Conquer: The unionbuster creates opportunities and crafts persuasive messages to make employees feel that there is a tense division among staff concerning the union election.  They may go so far as to pit one group of employees against each other, based on race or ethnicity. 
Letters, letters, letters: A unionbuster’s specialty is hammering out materials—be it cartoons, leaflets or management correspondence—to make the case against the union.  92 percent of companies involved in organizing drives mail anti-union materials to employees’ homes.6
Love offerings: In order to convince employees that they don't need a union, unionbusters may advise clients to provide indirect bribes, like unexpected increases in wages or benefits or ‘feel good’ measures like free food and lottery tickets.

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182Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

What really peeves off the UFCW is the fact that Richard Berman exposes you for what you are . The UFCW is all about milking the rank and file to sustain the lifestyles of the hierarchy . Secure fully funded pension funds for the leaders of UFCW and at risk pension funds on the verge of collapse for the rank and file .

DONALD HUNSUCKER SALARY UFCW
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949

The UFCW is all about destroying anyone that they can't extort money from . This nation of ours has a multitude of non union mechandisers . They and their employees are sick and tired of mafia tactics used against them .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol...

Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949 - Markey ea (Financial District)

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Date: 2009-09-09, 6:31PM EDT
Reply to: see below

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The UFCW (United Food and Commercial Workers), whose president earns $626,769 a year,
has launched a campaign against Whole Foods, whose CEO earns $1 a year in salary.
Whole Foods CEO John Mackey’s total compensation is $33,831, and he has implemented
executive pay limits for all of his executives.
Mackey’s sin?
He offers his employees good benefits, and UFCW wants them to unionize so that their union bosses can make more money.
Whole Foods pays 100% of its employees health insurance premiums, pays competitively and is
listed as one of the 25 Best Companies to Work For.
While we have Markey earning $33,831 in total compensation, lets see how much UFCW bosses make:
UFCW Top 10, 2006
Executive - Gross Salary - Total Compensation
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949
John Niccollai II, President, Local 464 - $430,107 - $434,548
Ramon Rando, Secretary/treasurer, Local 464 - $379,761 - $387,632
Joseph Hansen, International president - $297,790 - $345,426

To Liberals, It's never about compassion and for the 'greater good of mankind'. It's always about money, power and control...
and they have a steady supply of useful idiots to do their protesting for them.

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183Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Five Fast Facts on Berman & the Center for Union Facts
Richard Berman doesn't care about your kids, your health, your workplace, or your schools.  He cares about money. Period.

1.  He's the hired gun for the alcohol, tobacco, and fast food industries. Notorious D.C. lobbyist, veteran spin doctor, and founder of Berman and Company, Richard Berman has made a name for himself working on behalf of unpopular clients like the tobacco, alcohol, and fast food industries. Through various front groups he's created, Berman has mounted campaigns for his corporate backers to relax drunk driving laws, discount public health concerns about obesity and tanning, and prevent increases in the minimum wage.

2. Berman's issue-focused front groups pay "huge fees" to his lobbying firm. Richard Berman runs five campaigns out of his offices in Washington, DC, most of which were revealed to pay "huge fees" to his lobbying firm.  According to a July 2006 profile of Berman in USA Today, his company has 28 employees and earns $10 million dollars a year, but "only Berman and his bookkeeper wife" know how much of the $10 million ends up in their own pockets.

3.  Berman's backers stay far in the background. Berman is the face of attacks on public interest groups to absolve corporations, conservative business associations, industry lobbying groups, and right-wing policy centers and policymakers from responsibility and accountability.  "[Berman] never discloses his financial backers, allowing large, mainstream companies to fund him without having to associate their brand names with his sharp-elbowed approach." Las Vegas Sun, 11/3/07

4.  Playing loose and dirty with the facts is Berman's favorite tactic. Berman routinely misinterprets data, grossly exaggerates, and offers dubious statistics to further the agenda of his corporate clients. For example, as the Senate launched hearings and introduced the Employee Free Choice Act in March 2007, the Center released misleading figures based on National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) data that minimized the number of illegal firings during union election campaigns. Both Republican and Democratic Senate staff requested clarification on the group's claims from the NLRB. Staff at the NLRB swiftly responded to report Berman's data cannot be substantiated.

5.  Attacking unions is one of his latest money-making enterprises. In 2006, Berman launched the Center for Union Facts front group to damage the public image of unions and further an anti-union business climate.  Berman's plans to fundraise among conservative activists for his attack on teachers' unions were revealed in an expose in The Las Vegas Sun in Nov. 2007.  In 2008 Berman will wage "an aggressive media campaign" on behalf of the Indoor Tanning Association, which has raised $400k+ to hire Berman to play down the well-documented health concerns over tanning.  

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184Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well Lastdogout:

I have exposed your tactics here on the Vindy . You have been seen for the dirtbag that you are . When you are exposed you get irrational .

So the power of Richard Berman exposing the UFCW upsets you ? That's too bad .

You don't care about the workers in Henry's stores or his customers . It's all about supporting the likes of Donald Hunsucker .

DONALD HUNSUCKER SALARY UFCW
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949

The UFCW is all about destroying anyone that they can't extort money from . This nation of ours has a multitude of non union mechandisers . They and their employees are sick and tired of mafia tactics used against them .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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185Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Our own govt. has stated that his facts or twisted. How is that exposing me

4.  Playing loose and dirty with the facts is Berman's favorite tactic. Berman routinely misinterprets data, grossly exaggerates, and offers dubious statistics to further the agenda of his corporate clients. For example, as the Senate launched hearings and introduced the Employee Free Choice Act in March 2007, the Center released misleading figures based on National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) data that minimized the number of illegal firings during union election campaigns. Both Republican and Democratic Senate staff requested clarification on the group's claims from the NLRB. Staff at the NLRB swiftly responded to report Berman's data cannot be substantiated.

It's no wonder you like the guy, afterall, he also is against MADD. He's working hard at lessening drunk driving laws whereever he can.

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186Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout :

After plundering the rank and files pension plan the UFCW wastes more on informational picketing . Meanwhile the UFCW leaders are drawing huge salaries with a fully funded pension plan while the rank and file's plan is on the verge of collapse .

So the power of Richard Berman exposing the UFCW upsets you ? That's too bad .

You don't care about the workers in Henry's stores or his customers . It's all about supporting the likes of Donald Hunsucker .

DONALD HUNSUCKER SALARY UFCW
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949

The UFCW is all about destroying anyone that they can't extort money from . This nation of ours has a multitude of non union mechandisers . They and their employees are sick and tired of mafia tactics used against them .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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187Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Richard Berman, profiled by CBS’s “60 Minutes” as “Dr. Evil,” is a notorious anti-consumer publicist and a hired gun for the alcohol, tobacco and fast food industries. Berman, who has close ties to the Bush administration and the Chamber of Commerce, operates the Center for Union Facts (and its spin-off the Employee Freedom Action Committee) and produces hyperbolic anti-EFCA ads that depict union leaders as crooks and thugs.

Other anti-EFCA front groups include the corporate alliance called Coalition for a Democratic Workplace, Americans for Job Security (a Chamber of Commerce front group financed by the insurance industry), the old-line National Right to Work Committee (along with its offspring, the Public Service Research Foundation), and right-wing kingmaker Grover Norquist’s Alliance for Worker Freedom.

Corporations and the right argue that EFCA will take away the secret ballot, let union thugs intimidate workers into joining unions and destroy businesses. But EFCA does not eliminate the option of National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) elections, even though most unions would pursue majority sign-up when they can. EFCA simply gives the right to choose the method to workers and unions, not the employers.

And it is employers—not unions—that have intimidated workers. In 2007, nearly 30,000 workers suffered illegal employer retaliation for exercising their rights at work, roughly five times as many than in 1967, according to the NLRB.

Even a survey by the anti-union HR Policy Associates turned up only 42 clear cases of union misconduct in signing union authorization cards in the more than 70 years since the National Labor Relations Act was passed in 1935, according to the AFL-CIO.

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188Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

THE UFCW IS ALL ABOUT MILKING THE RANK AND FILE

$170,000 a year pension for the leaders . But they're worth it right ?

http://forums.uncharted.ca/about931-0...

Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 1411
Location: Sun City AZ I'll keep trying till you answer these questions sufcw.

This isn't about Crane or Hartwell to me. It is about what the ufcw has become; about how guys that are overpaid to begin with make a mockery of what should be a proud labor movement; about how they turn it into their own personal piggy bank as they trot off into retirement.

Where do you want to begin? Wynn's shady house deal? Talirico's $900,000 payday as he was carted off to prison? The 75 million dollars we lost in our pension fund in hedge fund investments that went to a firm the Dority's daughter ended up marrying one of the principal officers? Dority's half a million dollar payday after the failed Southern CA strike? Loveall's half a million dollar payment for a year and a half after he had retired? Hunsucker's $800,000 salary to sell his local to Loveall? Oh yeah, and don't forget all these retirements came with $170,000 a year retirement checks. The abuses have been so egregious that now new (and old) staffers are getting screwed

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189JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

At the risk of perpetuating this beyond the insane 300+ comments already logged I have to point out that this is the most asinine collection of nonsensical ramblings I've ever seen.

That is all.

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190Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well Jeff this is all about the UFCW wanting higher food prices . You must be living at home with your mother paying the grocery bill . Thats cool . You thus are not concerned with the food costs .

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191Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

That's the best you can come up with crystal ball, some obscure posting from a forum somewhere in the southwestern part of the USA? Good reference material. Oh, and kudos to you for your apparent social skills. You learn those from Henry, too.

Sorry about that Jeff, he gets ugly if he misses his noon highball.

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192Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

This information that follows is for the workers who will pull their heads out the sand long enough to read it. If any of this has occured to you, then you have been targeted. It doesn't matter whether or not an actual attempt at organizing has occured.

Seven Sophisticated Unionbuster Techniques

Supervisors as Frontline Soldiers: Supervisors, who themselves have no legally protected right to be represented by a union, are manipulated into delivering anti-union letters, speeches, and informal chats prepared by unionbusters, essentially doing the dirty work of the unionbusters and management.  
One-on-One Meetings: During organizing drives, 78 percent of workers are forced to attend closed-door or isolated meetings with supervisors.5   These aren’t friendly impromptu chats, but well-planned meetings to decipher employees’ feelings about the union and persuade them against the union. 
Captive Audience Meetings: So-called ‘captive audience’ meetings are held for employees during work hours to disseminate propaganda against union representation and to attempt to discredit the union.  Employees are almost always required to attend, but union organizers may be intentionally disinvited.  Often, the meetings are rigged so that workers who are already against the union are assigned to ask questions to sow misinformation.
Delay: Unionbusters often attempt to delay union representation elections by legal maneuvers so they have more time to implement other tactics needed to increase tension, dissension and the employer’s chance of winning the election.
Divide & Conquer: The unionbuster creates opportunities and crafts persuasive messages to make employees feel that there is a tense division among staff concerning the union election.  They may go so far as to pit one group of employees against each other, based on race or ethnicity. 
Letters, letters, letters: A unionbuster’s specialty is hammering out materials—be it cartoons, leaflets or management correspondence—to make the case against the union.  92 percent of companies involved in organizing drives mail anti-union materials to employees’ homes.6
Love offerings: In order to convince employees that they don't need a union, unionbusters may advise clients to provide indirect bribes, like unexpected increases in wages or benefits or ‘feel good’ measures like free food and lottery tickets.

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193Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout gets ugly when he looks in the mirror and doesn't like what he sees .

I do have a nice picture of that fat cat HUNSUCKER !

THE UFCW IS ALL ABOUT MILKING THE RANK AND FILE

$170,000 a year pension for the leaders . But they're worth it right ?

Hunsucker really knows how to enjoy those union dues !

DONALD HUNSUCKER SALARY UFCW
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949

The UFCW is all about destroying anyone that they can't extort money from . This nation of ours has a multitude of non union mechandisers . They and their employees are sick and tired of mafia tactics used against them .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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194JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

pro, just an heads-up, don't bring your standard white sheets and crosses if you indeed stage a rally; this could pose problems.

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195Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

There is no logic to them Jeff. I am do e with the lot of them. If they want to drink Henry's koolaid, let them. If they like earning less, let them. Just don't go signing up for government aid because Henry won't give you enough to live on.

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196Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout is trying to gain support . Jeff, dog is too shy to ask but perhaps you could drive by honk and return to put some coins in the UFCW kettle if he has it up .

THE UFCW IS ALL ABOUT MILKING THE RANK AND FILE

$170,000 a year pension for the leaders . But they're worth it right ?

Hunsucker really knows how to enjoy those union dues !

DONALD HUNSUCKER SALARY UFCW
Don Hunsucker, President, Local 1288 - $626,769 - $679,949

The UFCW is all about destroying anyone that they can't extort money from . This nation of ours has a multitude of non union mechandisers . They and their employees are sick and tired of mafia tactics used against them .

I'll give you a bit of free advice . You need to stop wasting money informational picketing in vain . The people know that the stores are non union and that the prices are low . To recoup some of your wasted money I suggest that you put up a kettle and set up a bell ringer like the Salvation Army . At the end of each day you would see how much support you have for your lost cause .

UFCW UNION FACTS
http://unionfacts.com

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197Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Yeah right, another henryfest. The first one worked so well. What Henry have to come out of pocket for that one, 4 or 5 packs of the cheapest hotdogs he had?

Jeff might be on to something. What is the racial percentage of workers at Henry's two stores there? I can bet it's pretty lopsided.

Jeff, why don't you check it out and see. Thanks for the idea CON!!!

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198Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Well lastdogout is it safe for me to go to the rally or are you going to try to bump me off so you can live thirty years longer . I was amused at your implied threat !

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199Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

JUST FOR THE RECORD

Lastmanout (48 comments)posted 1 day, 19 hours ago

Like I said to CON. The union merely wants the public to be aware that Henry could care less about anything other than his own pockets. What he did in Hubbard is proof.

I can understand your hatred of me, crystal ball. Although you have tried, you still do not know who I am. Am I a picketer, a union boss, or some one who just doesn't like to see workers used unjustly by their owner, operator? You may never know.

I will tell you this much, crystal ball, I will outlive you by at least 30 years. Now if I could only know where they will bury you, I could tell you with certainty, I would be happy to dance on your grave.

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200Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You must be very touchy today crystal ball, for I see no implied threat at all. I merely stated that I am at least 30 years younger than you, and that, barring being hit by a bus, will probably outlive you. The dancing on the grave thing is merely wishful thinking. It must suck knowing you've got such a short time left on this planet.

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201Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Your chances of making my time short on this planet are are next to none . Your threat however has been duly recorded .

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202JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Not enough skin in the game for me to do any fact-checking, sorry. pro, I don't need to convince anyone of your convictions -- you do a find job on your own with your hateful posts.

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203Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

If this is your idea of trying to boot me out because of your inability to effectively challenge me, good luck. There has been no threat, anyone here can attest to that. You are older than me, by at least 30 years, and unless you know of a special elixar, or have figured out how not to pass on through old age, well you see. Everything dies. That's the way it is. Sorry to be so cold. That is unless you have holes in your hands and feet.

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204Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout:

There is no squirming from this one . Your posts say it all .

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205Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

UFCW MAFIA CONNECTIONS

UFCW merged with a Brooklyn-based Union corrupted by the Luchese Mafia Family

REAP has also revealed that UFCW Vice-President Gary Duckett, wanted for questioning by the FBI as a bank robbery suspect, was found floating in a Washington D. C. river with a gunshot wound to his head; that UFCW Vice-President Leo Cinaglia was convicted in Federal Court of taking bribes from an employer; that UFCW Comptroller Maria Coleman embezzled over $1.7 million from the workers; that the UFCW merged with a Brooklyn-based Union corrupted by the Luchese Mafia Family in 1998; that 5 officials of UFCW Local 174 in New York City were indicted for extortion; and that 2 UFCW Local 880 representatives in Ohio were cited in a $16,000 pay scam.

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206Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

You see how it is here Jeff. Nothing but bigots and old fools. Point either out, and they attack nevermind the truth, they hold all the cards. Crystal ball must be Henry himself. How else could they get away with the filthy posts, have there opponents banished, and threaten people as they do. If you go back to page 4, and check crystal balls post about half way down you'll see a curse word that has been allowed to stand. Never has this been allowed here, but since he did it, it's ok. He will claim that he cut and pasted it or something, but you try to cut and paste the word as@h@le and see what happens. He double spaced the letters to avoid the autocensor and his buddies at vindy has let it slide, while others were banished for it.

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207Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastmanout :

You seem to think that a death threat and stating that you will dance on someones grave is quite normal .

Keep one thing in mind . The mafia has been put in its place here in the past and a repeat performance may very well be in order .

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208Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Your 'look over there' technique is truly polished. I'll give you that. You're basic understanding of the English language is questionable. My statements here stand for themselves.

Let's look at the facts, shall we. My statement in question was made in post 224, and yet, it didn't seem to bother you until after post 258 was made. "...What is the racial percentage of workers at Henry's two stores there? I can bet it's pretty lopsided.".

You gonna tell me that then you felt threatened. Please. Nice try.

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209Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Are you afraid that maybe Henry's stores are a little to white?

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210Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Let's not forget about the time lag either. 1 day and 19 hours in between and at least 12 comments by you later.

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211Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Lastdogout :

The proper authorities had been notified with all the facts and copies of your posts . Any attempt to carry through with your threat or as you call it "your fantasy" will dealt with by the law . We are a nation of laws that have severe penalties to control this type of behavior .

If I choose to shop either IGA or Save a Lot that is my prerogative . Your threat will neither stop nor deter me from shopping or supporting these stores .

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212Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Bigots flock together is all I can say.

Next time anyone shops at these stores, take a good look around. I doubt you'll see many, if any, minorities working there. If you do, they'll probably be in the lower, menial task jobs.

Ask yourself this, are you going to support a business that still supports bigotry?

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213Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

There are plenty of bigots in the UFCW and the mafia . How many black union bosses or black mafia bosses are there ? Can you find one ?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/art...

MAFIA HISTORY
Thus, on his day, Colombo moved easily through the crowd, shaking hands, joking, posing for photographers. Suddenly shots rang out, barely audible above the noise of the happy crowd. Colombo crumpled to the ground, bleeding heavily from the head and neck.

Almost immediately, another volley sounded and his assailant, a black posing as a photographer who only seconds before had been filming Colombo, pitched forward face down, dead. Later identified as Jerome Johnson, 24, he had been silenced by a still unidentified league captain, Colombo bodyguard, or someone posing as part of Joe's retinue. Johnson's killer escaped as professionally as he had carried out his mission, shooting Johnson three times even as police clustered around.

Hysterical spectators either rushed to see what was happening or fled in fear of more gunfire. There were confused shouts of "They got Joe! Joe's dead!" As word that the assailant was black rippled through the crowd, shock gave way to anger. Several blacks were roughed up. One, a musician who had been hired to entertain later in the day, was beaten by five or six men as onlookers shouted, "Kill him! Kill him!"

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214Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

LACK OF JUDGEMENT OR REASONING !

" Lastmanout (55 comments)posted 14 hours, 17 minutes ago

"Your 'look over there' technique is truly polished. I'll give you that. You're basic understanding of the English language is questionable. My statements here stand for themselves."

You're = You are ("You're basic understanding")?

Your command of the english language is not very refined and matches your reasoning .
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Your mafia death threats are old stuff . Neither I nor the law looks upon your look over there technique as highly polished . Your death threat is a recorded fact .

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215Lastmanout(64 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

Your 'look over there ' technique isn't working. Your bigotry has, though.

So what do the 'good ol' boys' discuss at their cross burnings?

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216Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 3 months ago

I don't belong to a cross burning society and skin color isn't an issue as it is with the mafia and UFCW leadership .

UFCW GRAMMAR
http://api.ning.com/files/eF6lxOGft0i...

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