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Here’s a plan for passing health-care reform


Published: Sun, August 16, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

Here’s a plan for passing health-care reform

EDITOR:

Much is being said in both Congress and the media about the proposition of health care for everyone but so far not much has been done. Before I go any further I want to say that my wife and I have been on Traditional Medicare for about 18 years and about all I can say is thank God for Lyndon Johnson. According to some I guess that makes us Socialists but if so, so be it.

I have been following the media fairly closely and it seems there is almost as much concern for the insurance companies’ future in the matter as there is for the welfare of the uninsured. I would almost bet that most of the people who are against it already have adequate health coverage and really don’t care about those who are not so fortunate. Some say we can’t afford such a thing, although some of the insurance companies are apparently for it as long as everyone is forced to purchase coverage from them, not a program similar to traditional medicare.

As far as costs go there are two ways we could cut costs. The first would be, just don’t provide the care. The second would be to reduce payments to the providers, hospitals, doctors, drug companies, etc. I doubt any of those solutions would have the desired effect in the end.

Some say well, so many already have insurance now any change wouldn’t be fair to them, as if it is free. The truth of the matter is everyone, whether they themselves have insurance or not, pay for those that do. If you buy a car or any other item produced by someone who has health coverage through their employer you pay for their health care. If you pay taxes of almost any kind you pay for health care for the congressman, teachers. policeman, etc. even if you have no health-care coverage your self.

Why are we the only major country in the world that does not provide their citizens with assured health care when needed? Are they all wrong and we the only ones who really care about our people?

I can think of one sure way that this measure would pass through Congress. Tell each congressman if you think it is important then vote for it. If you don’t think it is important then vote against it, but if you do you will forfeit all government health coverage you have.

WINSTON SWAN

Hubbard

Americans should resist being conned yet again

EDITOR:

Americans were conned into believing there was an extreme urgency to pass the Stimulus Bill in January, or the country would collapse. Cap and Trade was likewise rushed through Congress before anyone could read the bill. Now Atty. David J. Betras suggests in an Aug. 2 letter that Republicans are conning the country and lying about the facts of national health care. Find out for yourselves at www.nchc.org, National Coalition on Health Care. Go to “Facts About Health Care,” then “World Health Care Data.”

We’re being told there is a health care crisis in this country, but there’s nothing wrong with our health care. There is, however, a health cost crisis, and one of the causes is that attorneys convince many Americans to sue over even the most frivolous injury or incident, knowing that insurance companies settle nearly all of these cases rather than incur the greater expense of a trial. It’s a win-win for the attorney and client, but everyone else loses by paying higher premiums. Fix this first with “loser pays” and real tort reform.

The Obama plan is a means to pay for health care by making us all pay more, and it will be all of us and not just the millionaires. When has our government ever run a program efficiently? The bureaucracy in this bill will be enormous. Government-managed health care means you will be told when you can see a specialist. In countries with national health care, the average waiting period between seeing a specialist and going to surgery is three months.

There are several provisions in the bill for “community organizations” to help out, and it looks like ACORN will be at the top of that list to provide hospice for those deemed too old for surgery or treatment. You also will be paying for the uninsured, including those that choose not to buy insurance and all the illegal aliens who use our medical facilities. In fact, we are paying for the illegals now through increased hospital charges to cover those losses from the uninsured. When some people can’t pay, the hospital increases the charge for an aspirin, for example, by a penny. Do you know what an aspirin costs in the hospital today?

Self-discipline and personal responsibility aren’t part of the health-care bill, either, but they should be. We should be teaching our children how to take care of themselves and others. Starting with basic First Aid in 6th grade, this should progress up through the 12th grade with military-style “Self Aid and Buddy Care.” One of the biggest reasons people rush to the emergency rooms is that they don’t know what to do for simple injuries and illnesses.

So when it comes to conning and lying to the public, it appears that we are now dealing with masters of the craft in this administration. We are all gradually being taken down the path toward socialism. We need to put the brakes on this socialist power train and bring it to a halt before we experience the greatest train wreck in history.

DONALD K. ALLEN

Youngstown

‘It is what it is’ isn’t an answer of which to be proud

EDITOR:

During my brief trip home for a Cleveland friend’s wedding, I was amazed to read last Sunday’s top headline: “’Welcome Home Jimbo’ countdown begins.” I was also amazed when I read the many comments on Vindy.com from readers supporting “Jimbo” on the basis that “everyone is corrupt” — as if that makes government corruption OK. The man is a convicted felon several times over. He is responsible for millions of congressional earmark dollars (pork barrel spending) being misappropriated for personal gain. Money that was supposed to shore up Youngstown’s infrastructure. That is not your standard political corruption favor, that is bilking your constituents out of opportunity, improved quality of life, and employment opportunities. Because of this man’s actions and the mentality of his supporters, I and many, many other young professionals, have left this town.

I now reside in Annapolis, Md., just minutes from Washington, D.C., where I suppose that most of “Jimbo’s” supporters would claim the greatest government corruption exists. I have met and befriended a number of lobbyists, campaign designers, and congressional aides in my time there, and I can assure you that the “Inside the beltway” political favors that are labeled corruption are a far cry from multiple felony counts — and no one celebrates those who stray across that very large, very clear legal/illegal line.

As a government teacher, I actually have a picture of “Jimbo’s” mug shot on my classroom wall. The caption below it reads: “Pay attention in government class, or this man could become your congressman.” The picture becomes part of my lesson plans each year: 1. When students ask “What is racketeering?” and 2. When I stress the importance of paying close attention to government actions and actively participating in government by voting, campaigning, or at the very least, writing a letter (or e-mail).

It embarrasses me to bring my wife home to Youngstown (she is an Annapolis native). I tell her about all the great things here, the people, the food, the atmosphere of so many local stores and restaurants — all to be undone by stories of parties for convicted felons, and other odd behaviors (grocery store picketers). My sense of pride in my hometown dwindles with each trip back. Youngstown, if you want your children to stay, and your grandchildren to know you, stop condemning yourself. Just because “that’s how this town is” doesn’t make it right.

JOSH CARTWRIGHT

Annapolis, Md.

You’re not in Texas anymore

EDITOR:

The assertions in an Aug. 9 letter to the editor about Mahoning County libraries are so inaccurate that they cannot go by without correction.

The writer attempts to draw a comparison between her former residence, Irving, Texas, and Mahoning County, in its number of libraries, and offers criticism based on that comparison. Irving, Texas, and Mahoning County, Ohio, are so very different by their nature that it’s an apples and oranges comparison. Irving is a densely populated city, smaller in size than our county. Mahoning County libraries have a responsibility to serve an area that is over six times larger. Providing service in Mahoning County with only three libraries, as the city of Irving does, would be doing our communities a disservice.

The letter suggests poor planning and fiscal irresponsibility, but Mahoning County’s library system is actually known to excel in both planning and financial responsibility. It is a public institution that operates within its means. It is debt free and audits by the state are consistently clean and solid.

We would like Mahoning County residents to know: it’s your library and it has grown over the past decade to better serve your community. Your library’s long-range planning encompasses research on facilities, demographics, consumer and industry trends, the fiscal environment, and a study of the needs and wants of the community that includes ample public input. Details of your ibrary’s strategic plan are online at: www.library2011.org/

The results speak for themselves. Despite a declining population, Mahoning County today has 30 percent more library users than it did in 2000 and use has increased by 43 percent. Over the past 20 years, half of the libraries in the county have been updated and improved. Your library has no debt and operates with a budget that is nearly the same as it had in 2000. You don’t get those kinds of results without solid planning and follow-though.

Today, your library system is experiencing the same unexpected economic decline that is rocking the nation. State funding to libraries comes from tax receipts. In this economic climate, fewer people are working and purchasing goods, which means fewer tax receipts. Add to that a state budget which cuts library funds even further.

We are grateful for our staff and patrons, who have demonstrated their confidence in this library system with their continued support. The dramatic losses in revenue will have an ongoing impact and, as is the practice, those managing your library system will continue to plan carefully and manage funds with prudence.

JANET S. LOEW

Library Communications/ Public Relations Director

Youngstown

Air show was a great event

EDITOR:

I had the opportunity to attend the Thunder Over The Valley air show last Saturday. In spite of some afternoon showers, we all had a wonderful time. Reasonably priced food and souvenirs and plenty of restrooms, too. Col. McGregor and his staff at the 910 put together and event that was very well organized and all the servicemen and servicewomen did a great job. It was very good to see so many of them walking around. They were very helpful.

I hope they’ll have another show next year and wish them continued success.

PHILIP RACZKA

Twinsburg, Ohio


Comments

1Nonsocialist(698 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Swan,

The politician -run health care models are failing in every country they are being experimented in. The British NHS has rationed care and is still expected to go bankrupt in 2 years. You left out a third and fourth option to cut costs: free market reforms and tort reform. Contrary to failed government-run debacles, these have worked where tried...everytime.

If you want to guarantee failure, repeat what has already failed. If you want to put people's health at risk, do it without me.

Mr Cartwright,

Don't be embarrased to take your wife to Youngstown. I'd take Mill Creek Park and the MVR club over the City Dock and Jimmy Cantler's anyday.

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2jimiohoh(85 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

I just seen something on CBS television on sunday morning. They are saying what a great medical system there is in France. During the sell they finally came out with what a doctor makes in France. Between 50 and 100 thousand a year. What a great motivation to become a doctor. People, tell me, would you go to guy making the same wage as a guy putting together a cobalt to do your open heart surgery?

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3Search4Answers(688 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

The reality of nationalized healthcare is that it has to be rationed. When the services are offered as "free" to the people but the program is constrained by a relatively fixed budget the reality is that services have to be rationed.

The basic idea behind the economy is scarcity of resources and the allocation of them. When the government runs something like national healthcare it faces the same constraint scarcity of resources that we do, the only difference is who is deciding the allocation of resources (Consumer or insurance or Government). There ultimately has to be a fixed budget under NHS because unless you ration a free service it will bankrupt the country.

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4Mahcntyvoter(28 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Has anybody actually read the information in the bill? I did only after I was told to go to a town hall meeting in the area that I am currently working because this bill will give free health care to illegals.Not only did I not find this lie in the bill but I also didn't find a lot of the others people bring up in town hall meetings.

After reading this I would call it an insurance reform not a health care reform. Even the people that have read the bill and have adequate insurance should be for this. This bill protectes them the most from losing their coverage for no reason. I guess until it happens to them they will be like most and beleive it will never happen to them.

Another thing that bothers me is the older people who are repeatedly at these town hall meetings making comments like " I don't want the government to touch my medicare." Well, I beleive they already have complete control over this. Their biggest concern is the end of life lies that are all over commercials. If the government really wanted to do this they could do so now with medicare.

I think the bottom line here is that insurance companies will no longer be able to rip people off with this reform and the are really afraid it will pass. They are starting a mass hysteria on flat out lies. The people need to really take time and look over issues in this bill. Or really ask questions instead of stopping the answering of questions and find out what is really in the bill.

I also think the people should get together and file a civil suit against the companies distributing these false advertisements. They are down right vicious and disgusting. Unfortuneatly they have enough money to buy more air time then the government which leads to more distribution af false information than truth.

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5Nonsocialist(698 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Mahoning County Voter,

HR3200 doesn't exclude illegal aliens from coverage. Until it does, by US Supreme Court rulings regarding insurance, they're covered.

Do you think all people will be covered for all things? If not, than you agree that there will be rationing. Is it not possible that the elderly may face more rationing than young adults? What do you think the function of the Federal Health Panel is?

How is the government's track record with staying within a budget? Why is Medicare scheduled to go bankrupt in 2019? Are you certain that the Feds will manage our health care better than they've managed the economy, the debt, Katrina, Vietnam, the self-inflicted mortgage crisis or the USPS?

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6DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

"I can think of one sure way that this measure would pass through Congress. Tell each congressman if you think it is important then vote for it. If you don’t think it is important then vote against it, but if you do you will forfeit all government health coverage you have."

- Dear Lord, where am I and how did I get surrounded by these people. Completely asinine statement on several levels. I think morons should not be able to reproduce or have opinions, that is important to me. I should vote for it.

The proposed bill does not expressly refuse care to illegal aliens and there is language in the proposed bill that would cover anybody who needs coverage within our borders.

"Some say we can’t afford such a thing, although some of the insurance companies are apparently for it as long as everyone is forced to purchase coverage from them, not a program similar to traditional medicare."
- Medicare is purchased from the provider as well, if you cannot see how disregard all of my posts.

The common misconception is that this proposed bill deals with health insurance. It does not. The fundamentals and principles of insurance are not present here. Insurance is meant to cover unexpected events. Events that are unforeseen and not predictable. If everyone gets coverage regardless of preexisting condition, it is no longer insurance. So, Winston's points on insurance are bunk. Yes , in traditional insurance the insured is covered against unforeseen events by the pool of premiums paid by other insureds. In the current bill, covered people will be paying for health coverage for everyone, versus health insurance.

So an overweight 43 year-old guy who smokes and drinks heavily gets coverage no matter what, and when he inevitably faces major heart issues at age 50 the extremely expensive coverage is paid for, even though the problems could be reasonably expected. Good thing there are not a lot of overweight 40-something smokers and drinkers in this country.

Beam me up Jimbo.

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