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There’s no real substitute for a town hall meeting

Published: Fri, August 14, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

There’s no real substitute for a town hall meeting

No one is eager to submit themselves to verbal abuse or unwarranted disrespect.

And so it is understandable that some members of Congress — including the two men who represent the Mahoning Valley, Tim Ryan, D-17th, and Charlie Wilson, D-6th — are reluctant to conduct town hall meetings to discuss the health care reform measures working their way through Congress. Some meetings have turned ugly, with angry-faced opponents shouting at their representatives. Often, what they are shouting is at best anti-government slogans, at worst, baseless invective.

One exchange had the opponent rail against health reform, but when the congressman asked the speaker what he would like to see reformed, he was speechless until some in the audience began shouting hints. He picked up on one of the cues and finally responded, “tort reform.”

A member of the U.S. House or Senate who presents himself to his constituents and answers their questions about health-care or health-insurance reform should have a reasonable expectation that he is going to be treated with civility. When he sees that some of his colleagues have been treated more like interlopers at an anti-government demonstration, his first response might well be, “I don’t need this.”

And, indeed, that has effectively been the first response of Wilson and Ryan. They’ve said they will host some teleconferences with constituents and will take and answer questions. Wilson wrote an oped column, which this paper published, to set the record straight on some of the provisions. But, they said, they won’t host town hall meetings.

They should reconsider.

For one thing, it is unfair to deny people who truly want to be a part of an informative give-and-take over health care reform the opportunity to do so simply because some of the people who show up will act boorishly. For another, an accomplished politicians ought to be able to handle disruptive speakers, just as professional comedians must learn to disarm hecklers.

Showing how it’s done

In recent days, Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter and Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill showed that it can be done. Specter patiently heard out his screaming detractors, and it was they who looked like anarchists and he who looked like the democrat. McCaskill demanded order, put two opponents of health-care reform in charge of picking the questions from a hat and answered questions to the best of her ability under trying circumstances.

Being open to questions and showing leadership will trump angry rhetoric — much of which is directed at cameras by people looking for their 15 seconds of fame — every time.

Any elected member of Congress must be prepared to discuss what is, at this point, an almost incomprehensibly complicated issue. Three House committees have reported out bills and any one of them is enough to boggle the mind. The title page of the 1026-page version approved by the House Energy and Commerce Committee gives a hint of what’s to come. It is an “Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 3200” the page announces, but you can call it “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009” for short.

People are going to be naturally suspicious of more than 1,000 pages of legalese that will define not only what kind of health care they might get in the future, but how about one dollar in every six is spent in the United States.

It is a congressman’s job — even if he can’t explain every jot and tittle off the top of his head — to reassure his constituents that what they will have at the end of the day is better for them, better for their employers and better for the country than what they have now.

That’s not going to happen in a teleconference. Congressmen: Book a hall, roll up your shirtsleeves (and gird your loins) and host an open meeting on health care before you head back to Washington at month’s end.


1epicfail(217 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

There's no reassuring these people:





Their minds closed a long time ago.

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2Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I wish to reassure congressmen Ryan and Wilson that they will not undergo any physical harm, and that words, even when spoken loudly or even beligerantly, will be tolerable to men of fortitude and tolerance.

I see the Vindy supports the Democratic-Socialists Party (DSP) villification of these private and concerned citizens as rude and dim-witted. For the DSPs to call these citizens 'Un-American" and "Swastika" carrying and "Evil-mongers" would be akin to me stating that the behavior of Code Pink and the "RNC Welcoming Committee" was reflective of all DSPs. I see you've also omitted mentioning the purple-shirted SEIU attendees who are seen on video assaulting and bullying ObamaCare opponents.

It is about the legislative malpractice called HR3200 and not about those who oppose it. You've never heard from these people until now. It took a crazy, dangerous and unaffordale bill to awaken the masses. I suspect that they fear a single payer system because of quotes from Obama telling the Illinois AFL-CIO in 2003, "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health-care program . . . we may not get there immediately" and then telling an SEIU Health Care Forum in 2007, "I don't think we're going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There's going to be some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out where we've got a much more portable system."

Read that last paragraph twice...there can be no denying that this bill represents this administrations and the DSPs appetite to consume the private sector.

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3epicfail(217 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

"I wish to reassure congressmen Ryan and Wilson that they will not undergo any physical harm, and that words, even when spoken loudly or even beligerantly, will be tolerable to men of fortitude and tolerance."

Agreed, if the representatives can't face the angriest of their constituency they have no place in office. A social servant should be just that.

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4valleyred(1103 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Vote them both out in 2010.

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5DouglasJohnson(6 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Perhaps one of the reasons Rep. Tim Ryan does not want to hold a town meeting is that somebody might ask him why he is working so hard to undercut the efforts of the real pro-life lawmakers, in both parties, who are trying to prevent the Obama health care bills from providing massive subsidies to health plans that cover elective abortion. Ryan is promoting language (the "Capps-Ryan Amendment") that would authorize the big new federal health insurance program (the "public plan") to cover abortion on demand. Ryan is working so hard for the pro-abortion lobby these days that the National Right to Life organization has set up a special webpage (titled "Tim Ryan, Pro-Life Impersonator") just to counter his pro-abortion work. It is here: http://www.nrlc.org/AHC/RyanUpdate.html

Maybe Ryan also fears that a town meeting would allow someone to ask him why he voted, in the House Appropriations Committee on July 7, to remove a longstanding ban on government funding of abortion on demand in the District of Columbia. Ryan has claimed, in this newspaper, that he did not vote for "public funding of abortion," but his claim was bogus: That is exactly what he voted for. Ryan voted specifically to allow the D.C. city bureaucracy to fund abortion on demand. Ryan says those were not "federal" funds. This is doubletalk -- the District of Columbia is a federal jurisdiction, and the entire D.C. budget is appropriated by Congress -- as The Weekly Standard magazine noted in its recent, unflattering article on Ryan, which is here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content...

Douglas Johnson
Legislative Director
National Right to Life Committee
Washington, D.C.

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6Tugboat(759 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

"It is a congressman’s job — even if he can’t explain every jot and tittle off the top of his head — to reassure his constituents that what they will have at the end of the day is better for them, better for their employers and better for the country than what they have now."

Really? Even if it means a net increase of $239 billion in the federal budget deficit over the 2010- 2019 period?

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7APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Coward- do they honestly believe that people will not remember this during the next election..

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8dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

People in this area supported Obama, and Ryan and Wilson are just trying to do what Obama wants. So why would people in this area vote them out? Isn't this part of what the people said they wanted when they voted for Obama?

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9JME(802 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Ryan and Wilson are supposed to do what their constituents want, NOT what Obama wants. Are you suggesting Americans should support Dictatorship?

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10misterlee(118 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

"I see the Vindy supports the Democratic-Socialists Party (DSP) villification of these private and concerned citizens as rude and dim-witted. For the DSPs to call these citizens 'Un-American" and "Swastika" carrying and "Evil-mongers" would be akin to me stating that the behavior of Code Pink and the "RNC Welcoming Committee" was reflective of all DSPs. I see you've also omitted mentioning the purple-shirted SEIU attendees who are seen on video assaulting and bullying ObamaCare opponents."

Is that you Mr. Limbaugh? I thought I heard someone mouth-breathing...
Read something, study the facts, stop taking talking points from your favorite entertainers on the radio and on Fox News, and just learn something yourself. You live inside a bubble of propaganda and clearly know little of how the world works. As for the SEIU attendees allegedly assaulting the scared elderly people who are showing up at these events, there has been a lot of anger shown on both sides, but I haven't seen anything involving union members attacking people. More right-wing myths like death panels? Probably. Showing up at town halls and disrupting anything constructive from happening is not democracy, that's mob rule. We are a civil democracy in this country, a minority mob doesn't get to make the decisions. A majority of Americans want health care reform of some kind, stop throwing hissy fits and get over it, you lost the election ( Legitimately, not questionably like the 2000 election)

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11Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don't tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

“It just seems there's no freedom of speech without being attacked,” he said.

His attorney, David Brown stated, " I think that...possibly, these SEIU members were working at the behest of some other Democratic organizations, either to start trouble or to intimidate people from expressing free speech.”


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12JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Non-thanks for "breaking" this story from over a week ago, which took place not at the McCaskill event but at one for Russ Carnahan.

Kenny is the one who leaves his feet but immediately gets up and runs around the parking lot in the video, right? Yeah, that's him...running, around the parking lot, quite nimbly in fact. And the next day the whole wheelchair bit with the lawyer, then the mention on Limbaugh's show followed by the appearance on Fox News and his being martyred by every conservative blogger in the country, then the copyrighted website accepting donations via PayPal. His upcoming reality show with the plumber should be a real hoot, though.

Heartbreaking, really. Really.

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13valleyred(1103 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

The only way to change Tim Ryan's mind about this is by pressuring him nonstop.

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14misterlee(118 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Did Mr. Gladney also have a backwards B carved into his face?

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15valleyred(1103 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Congressmen Tim Ryan? Don't hide from your constituents! Hold a Health Care Town Hall! http://bit.ly/1VZQIM!

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16Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

The Dude,

So it's ok that Kenny was assaulted because he was walking soon thereafter? Oftentimes pain is not felt until after the adrenaline rush subsides.

I actually pulled some info for that post from MSNBC.com . But you're right, the media (except for FoxNews) mostly censors those stories on behalf of the DSPs.

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17JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

That's the thing; I'm not assuming he was actually assaulted No witnesses were then or have since been quoted and the video in my eyes doesn't show an assault taking place. His attorney, Lionel Hutz, weighed in with baseless assertions and opinions devoid of fact. "I think that...possibly..." Honestly? This story is what you choose to cite as evidence that subversive efforts are underway on a large scale? If the guy's lawyer was named Mr. Fuji this would be a WWF script.

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18dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

JME, I am saying that "elections have consequences". Everyone I talked to before the election hated Bush and was goo-goo eyed over Obama. The Dems did a great job of equating McCain with Bush. And you are right. Ryan and Wilson should be listening to us. But it looks like they are just hoping August ends quick and they can get back to Washington.

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19Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

The Dude,

You're right. I think Kenny was laying on the ground because he was tired, and the purple-shirted man stradling him was there to wake him in time for the Town Hall. It's probably realy unlikely that the second guy delivered a "beat down"...he seemed like such a swell guy.

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20cambridge(4156 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I've seen Nuns give worse beatings. Caught a few myself.

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21Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

As far as I am concerned, Ryan and Wilson have already made up their mind on how they will vote, so even if 90% of the constituency comes out against this healthcare reform, it wouldn't matter anyway. Why the hell would they care what we think? They are beholden to this president and this Congress for a number of reasons, and they will do as they are told. These are not independent thinkers, these are just people who are told how to vote. And in Ryan's case, he won't EVER stand up against this president or Pelosi because of GM Lordstown.

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22LieDetector(27 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

No reason to be shocked that Ryan and Wilson are taking the easy way out! These are not men of pride , morals, compassion or fortituse. They are career politicians that scamed the uninformed, easily manipulated public to get elected. They are the puppets of what will go down in history as the most corrupt and criminal administration ever. They are arrogant and so self assured that they can count on you weak and sheepish people who will march to the polls like stepford wives and pull the lever for them. They laugh at you and ridicule your ignorance. All the while you destroy the fabric of our country that took so long and that has shed so much blood to get this freedom. But you will destroy our childrens future and damn our whoile country because you dont have the sense to see that a dictator wanna be and a criminal element has hijacked our country. And shame to say I was a registered democrat, but no more. I ask for forgiveness. I will do and support adamently what is just and right...not what is the fad anymore!!!!!

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23timOthy(802 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Cowards Period !

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24Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

LieDetector speaks the truth. I stand with him/her to fix what is broken.

"...we shall all consider ourselves unauthorized to saddle posterity with our debts, and morally bound to pay them ourselves..."

-Thomas Jefferson

"The Utopian schemes of leveling (re-distribution of wealth) and a community of goods (central ownership of the means of production and distribution), are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. (These ideas) are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional."

-Samuel Adams

"I trust Jefferson, Franklin and the Adams cousins over Reid, Pelosi and Obama."

-The Nonsocialist

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25hellsbells(116 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I got enough of "town hall meetings" during the election. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do of having your question answered.
They are either rallies or freak shows. Normal people seem to avoid them.

If there is a better electronic way to be heard, I'm all for it.

If you really don't want to ask a question, just protest, I suggest you send an e-mail to your legislators. I have done this and they seem to get a better response than a regular letter.

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26harleydog(243 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Wilson and Ryan don't have the stones to face their constituents. They are only worried about winning their next election and if the people vote them back in then they deserve what they get. Stop hiding behind Pelosi and face the people of the this area. You both should be ashamed of yourselves for running with your tail between your legs.

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27hsr0601(4 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Good News !

A staff writer at The New Yorker and some experts have examined Medicare data from the successful hospitals of 10 regions, and they have found evidence that more effective, lower-cost care is possible. Thankfully, the provisions in the reform include more expansive policies than they have.

Please be 'sure' to visit http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opi... for credible evidences !

Some have followed the Mayo model with salaried doctors employed, Other regions, too, have found ways to protect patients against the pursuit of revenues over patient.
And a cardiac surgeon of them said they had adopted electronic systems, examined the data and found that a shocking portion of tests were almost certainly unnecessary, possibly harmful.

According to analysis, their quality scores are well above average. Yet they spend more than $1,500 (16 percent) less per Medicare patient than the national average and have a slower real annual growth rate (3 percent versus 3.5 percent nationwide).

Surprisingly, 16 % of about $550 billion (the total of medicare cost per year) is around $88 billion per year, except for Medicaid (total cost of around $500 billion per year), medicare 'alone' can save $880 billion over the next decade.

In addition, under the reform package, along with the already allocated $583 billion, the wastes involving so called "doughnut hole" , the unnecessary subsidies for insurers, abuse, exorbitant costs by the tragic ER visits etc are weeded out, the concern over revenue (below) might be a thing of the past.

(( Net Medicare and Medicaid savings of $465 billion + the $583 billion revenue package = $1048 billion - the previously estimated $1.042 trillion cost of reform = $6 billion surplus - $245 billion (the 10-year cost of adjusting Medicare reimbursement rates so physicians don’t face big annual pay cuts) = the estimated deficit of $239 billion ))

In modernized society, the business lacking IT system is unthinkable just like pre-electricity period, nevertheless, the last thing to expect is happening now in the sector requiring the best accuracy in respect to dealing with human lives. Apparently the errors by no e-medical records have spawned the crushing lawsuits (Medical malpractice lawsuits cost at least $150 billion per year), and these costs have led to the unnecessary tests, treatments, even more profits so far. And in different parts of the U.S., patients get two to three times as much care for the same disease, with the same result.

Thank You !

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28Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Even better news!

The effects of tort reform in Texas in 2003 has resulted in lower malpractice premiums, increased access to physicians, and as the National Center for Policy Analysis states:

"Tort reform also had a positive impact on the overall economy and substantially improved job prospects. For instance, tort reform led to the creation of 195,727 permanent jobs. And tort reform was a factor in the general business climate that led to the creation of another 295,151 permanent jobs."


We all know the results of the Federal government's effectiveness (or lack thereof) in reducing costs. Why is Medicare scheduled to go bankrupt in 2019?

Electronic Medical Records (EMRs) are likely a positive step forward in terms of safety and reducing costs (although yet to be proven). These reforms are occuring without HR3200.

If you somehow, someway believe that this is a fully funded trillion dollar mandate, please review the words of the director of the Congressional Budget Office:

Congressional Budget Office Director Doug Elmendorf told the Senate Budget Committee that none of the bills he has seen would contain health care costs to reduce them significantly over time. This is the main argument offered by Obama and Democrats as to why Congress can spend $1 trillion and save money.

“In the legislation that has been reported we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount,” Elmendorf said.

“And on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs.”

HR3200...paying a trillion dollars for rationed, politician-run "care".

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29cambridge(4156 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Noneverything....Tort reform. 100,000 people die every year in this country due to medical errors and another 100,000 die from infections and disease acquired and unrelated to their initial condition. That's 200,000 unnecessary deaths every year in America.

Do you actually believe that eliminating the threat of litigation and the responsibility for damages will improve health care in this country? I know it will improve things for insurance companies that are already making billions in profit. I know it will make things better for incompetent doctors,hospitals and health care providers that are more interested in their business than your health.

Are peoples actual health care ANY part of your agenda?

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30Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Your post and attitude are reflective of your ignorance on this issue, and in general. If you want trial lawyers to feed off America's health care resources, than you're entitled to your opinion. I respond only if any reader believes there isn't a medical liability crisis.

Here is how the Medical Liability Crisis hurts us all:

1. Malpractice premiums are passed on to the consumer.
2. It is resulting in provider shortages, particularly in high-risk fields and in high-risk states.
3. Providers order more tests and practice "defensive medicine."
4. Any provider with a bad outcome gets harpooned, regardless of the presence of neglect. That provider often becomes unemployable, adding to provider shortages.


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31Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago


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32cambridge(4156 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Noneverything.....Everything in my post is a fact and if you weren't aware of the 200,000 deaths I would say you are the ignorant one. Your post and attitude are reflective of your beliefs in Nonresponsibility.

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33dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

There's no point in arguing the details of these plans. They are all flawed in that the government has no business running health care in this country. We should get rid of employer paid plans and have everyone pay out of pocket for routine care and buy insurance for catastrophic care. Let insurance companies compete nationally like car insurance companies have to. When people take responsibilty for paying their own way, they will shop around until they get the best price from insurers and providers. And maybe they will also stop smoking and start eating right and exercising when their bad health habits hit them in their pocketbooks. Individual choice, personal responsibility, liberty.

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34hellsbells(116 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

137,000 people died from 2000 through 2006 because they lacked health insurance.

Chris Korzen, executive director of Catholics United, which opposes abortion, said his group doesn't want to see an important health care plan derailed by a "misleading campaign" that claims the health care plan would mean taxpayer-subsidized abortions.

That's the 1st "Right to Life" group I've seen that actually cares about the right to life of anyone actually breathing.

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35dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

"137,000 people died from 2000 through 2006 because they lacked health insurance."

I'd like to know where these numbers are from.

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36cambridge(4156 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

dreamcatcher52...Here's your answer.


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37OldFashionedMama(77 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Ah, Nonsocialist...another refreshing voice of common sense in the Vindy boards. The medical liability crisis is very real. Bush talked about this in his famous "so OB's can practice their love of women" speech. But unfortunately what he said is true. The United States ranks very low among industrialized nations when it comes to maternal injury and infant mortality. Doctors have been forced into using invasive, dangerous procedures and women and their babies are suffering terribly from this. We will experience a major shortage of qualified birth workers if medical liability does not change.

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38dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for your source. However, I don't really trust the St.Pete's Times and their "Truth-o-meter". Well, it wouldn't matter which news org was saying it. It's just their opinion of the study. I would probably have to see the original study before I could either accept or reject the figures. As far as their rationing comment, well anything that is limited in supply is "rationed". So those with the most means get the most health care. I don't really have a problem with that. I will make providing health care for my family a priority (over fancy cars, houses, vacations, etc.) by working for it. And I will contribute to charities which help out people who cannot get health care on their own.
Anyway this whole argument on health care is really an argument of government control vs. free market. It's an argument that's been around for a long time. I don't like government control.

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39cambridge(4156 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

dreamcatcher52....Politifact is a Pulitzer Prize winner in 2009. If your not going to trust them who are you going to trust? It's not an editorial comment, it's the news.

FYI. Besides the 22,000 a year that die due to a lack of insurance another 100,000 die due to medical errors and another 100,000 die due to infections or disease unrelated to their original medical problem.

Good luck with your plan to insure your families health. What will you do if someone gets sick and your insurance drops you? We are getting ripped off in a major way and besides the victims there are way too many volunteers

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40dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I guess I just prefer to read the original study and judge for myself. But, let's face it, each side can find studies supporting their views. That's the nature of research and statistics.
I do agree that some regulation as far as pre-existing conditions is needed. The system is not perfect. Never will be.And people die from medical errors and infections. I know that firsthand. I don't know what it has to do with the health care debate.
I just prefer a limited amount of government control of any aspect of our lives. We need government up to a point. The disagreement seems to be what that point is.

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41hellsbells(116 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

The number of deaths from lack of healthcare is from this report:

However, "cambridge" is correct that you can find a link to it on politifact.com

You know, they do have a "truth-o-meter", but if you click on the colored words under the meter, they give references related to their ratings from "true" to "pants on fire".

I have found them to be fair even when I may not like the ratings. In any event, by clicking on the link to their method of discovery, you can judge for yourself.

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42APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

TIM RYAN is a JOKE... unfortunately we're the punch line.. Seriously.. he won't release his schedule.. but he's happy to discuss issues at events.. HIDE.. HIDE until the next election!

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43TB(1167 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

These town hall meetings are the real joke. Any politician willing to show up for one needs to have his or her head examined.

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44redvert(2240 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

TB, so the idea of a politician meeting with and listening to the concerns of the people that he represents and who elected him is a stupid idea.

Very interesting prospective!

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45TB(1167 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

You can do so simply by contacting him. These are simply smokescreens for anger, rage, etc. Very few of these meetings have been productive.

If you simply want a chance to rant and rave, which seems to be the point in the videos I've seen, then a town hall is a good idea.

If you are serious about change, then contacting him or calling his office and setting up a meeting will be much more productive.

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46dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I have called Charlie Wilson's office several times (I've lost track of how many). I have voiced my opinion and I have also requested information about where and when he would be having meetings. I have emailed him and also written a letter. I have always been polite. But all I get is a runaround. It is almost the end of August and his office doesn't have any idea when he is scheduling any meetings. I have never been this involved politically before. But I feel I need to be involved now (better late than never) or we will end up with "medicare for all" national plan. We are headed down a socialist path and have been for a long time. They will take what they can get to get their foot in the door - or maybe this is to open the door wider. Because they actually got their foot in the door with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. I am fighting for the country my children and grandchildren will be left with. And I am typical of a lot of people in this area, Mr. Wilson. I don't know. Maybe he isn't that much interested in running again.

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47APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Both are cowards. Ryan won't even release his schedule. What are you afraid of Timmy?? You should be afraid of the fact that you're going to be unemployed!!!!!!!!

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48dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

There was an article in last week's paper that quoted Wilson's spokeperson saying he had a variety of forums scheduled. Was she lying? Was the Vindy lying? Because when I call they tell me nothing is scheduled.

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49TB(1167 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

"I have emailed him and also written a letter. I have always been polite. But all I get is a runaround."

What do you expect the result to be? What exactly is the runaround?

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50harleydog(243 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Ryan and Wilson are wasted paychecks. But the ignorance of the people will vote these for these two idiots in 2010. You are right, anytime you call Wilsons office they claim they don't know what his schedule is or where he will be. He has no intention of holding a town meeting because he knows the backlash he will get for not having a backbone. Same goes with Timmy.

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51dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

A runaround is when they say they "don't know what his schedule is", that he is going to have forums but the exact time "hasn't been nailed down", that they are working on setting something up, that his spokesperson is "out of the office right now" , that he feels "face to face" TELEPHONE MEETINGS (huh?) are better than town halls. A runaround is when Charlie Wilson refuses to hold a public meeting for his constituents (NOT A PHOTO OP OR SOME MEDIA EVENT FOR REPORTERS) A runaround is when Charlie Wilson forgets he is our REPRESENTATIVE - he is supposed to represent our interests and do what WE want him to do, not what Pelosi and Reid want, or for that matter what Obama wants.

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52dreamcatcher52(140 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

I think Pelosi made Wilson Tim Ryan's "homework assignment". She probably told him to make sure they were together at photo ops and media events and to show him how to dodge his constituents. Timmy will get an "A" for this one.
The people in this area need to wake up and vote both of these guys out.

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53andersonathan(687 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

These two or three are not going to put themselves in front of a crowd. I talked to one of them a long time ago [4 years] believe me when I say they are above common people with their attitude. Issues like Health care and cap and trade although Wilson did vote no on it. Will be nothing more than jobs lost and money spent that we do not have and I don't care who is talking our taxes will go up.

So I expect nothing to change and these puppets from ohio will line up and vote with the Democratic leaders in Washington. They will take your money want your vote and never hear a word you say to them.

And if anyone thinks this administration is doing anything but lining pockets, deep pockets and paying back supporters with our tax dollars. Then you need to see a doctor.

Please Google Obama Offshore Drilling Brazil Soros

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