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Two found dead, bound in burned out car



Published: Wed, August 12, 2009 @ 1:30 p.m.

YOUNGSTOWN — Police are trying to determine who is responsible for the deaths of two young men found in a torched car near the Mahoning River.

Youngstown Police Capt. Kenneth Centorame today would only say that the two men were in their late teens or early 20s and lived in Youngstown. He said the two men do not appear to be related, but did know each other.

Centorame said police were able to quickly identify the two men, but are waiting on the coroner’s office to confirm the identities with family members.

According to police, a 42-year-old Canfield man went to the area of the Mahoning River near West Avenue at 6:45 p.m. Tuesday to meet a friend and do some fishing. The man noticed a late model car near the river but did not initially pay any close attention.

After about 15 minutes of sitting near the lake the man noticed the car had flames coming from the driver’s side door. The man, reports said, looked inside the car but did not see anything because of the smoke inside.

Youngstown firefighters responded at 6:52 p.m. and after extinguishing the fire found the body of the first man whose legs, feet and arms had been bound with duct tape. The man also had a bag placed over his head.

Police were called and began to go through the car when officers found the second body. The second man’s hands, feet and legs had also been bound with duct tape and a bag placed over his head.

The car was determined to have been a black 2007 Dodge Caliber that had been rented from the Enterprise rental agency on Rayen Avenue.


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1Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Drugs must be coming into the city getting ready for payday on the first . He who survives gets all of the money .

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2janeyblue(227 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah right fishing there! funny how he did not notice all the signs saying KEEP AWAY! This area is under survalence and is "private property"
Sounds fishy alright!
more like the pretty boy from the burbs didn't get his daily dose of crack!

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3westside(47 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Janey, the area near West avenue on the river is designated city park. There is a wooden dock that floats on the river and yes, people do fish from it. I've had several picnics there myself. There is a nearby trail that runs along the river to the B&O.

SO maybe the reason that he didn't notice "all the signs saying KEEP AWAY! This area is under surveillance and is 'private property'" is because they don't exist.

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4janeyblue(227 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Funny they do ! Was just there 3 weeks ago! Right by the rail tracks! I used to work right there!

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5mickeyj(2 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Good theory Janey off two guys then call the cops.

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6westside(47 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Well then you should have also noticed the improvements made to the landscaping, the singnage leading into the park area, and the improvements to the parking area near the river.

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7henryviii1509(274 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I am willing to bet that this has something to do with the rolling gunbattle yesterday!

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8steelerman09(111 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, I agree with Mickey. Call the cops and report yourselves...haha

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9redvert(2005 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Enterprise, "we'll come to you"

"Yes sir, it does appear that someone may have been smoking in this black 2007 Dodge Caliber."

Well at least their insurance will allow them to update the fleet. 2007, sounds like they were overdue.

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10janeyblue(227 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

umm yeah...looked just grand 3 weeks ago! NOT!
Same trash was there from 4 years ago!
the more things change the more they stay the same!
According to police, a 42-year-old Canfield man went to the area of the Mahoning River near West Avenue at 6:45 p.m. Tuesday to meet a friend and do some fishing. The man noticed a late model car near the river but did not initially pay any close attention.

After about 15 minutes of sitting near the lake the man noticed the car had flames coming from the driver’s side door. The man, reports said, looked inside the car but did not see anything because of the smoke inside.

Lake or river? How odd he didnt know where he was! And saw no one? Come on!

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11Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Well Vindy, were they shot or did they die in the flames ? Did anyone bother to find out ?

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12saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Sounds like someone(Janey)in here doesn't make it to Youngstown much. That's OK, just stay in your suburbs with your brothels and Dairy Queens that sell dope.

The city has gotten nicer over the past few years and yes, believe it or not people do fish in the Mahoning River. And every now and then some people even disregard a sign or two just to relax and fish a bit(I do it myself). Anyways, it's a shame what happened, no one deserves to be executed like that. I hope they find the culprit/s and do the same to them. Go get em Jimmy!

And for janey, remember to obey those signs, stop means stop.....no rolling stops now!

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13TheLostPatrol(748 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

....and Abortion and Text Messaging While Driving in Ohio are the main topics of our Federal and State Politicians; not rampant crime in the City of Youngstown where your odds of getting murdered are 1,500 to 1, almost as close to hitting the Daily Number at 1,000 to 1.

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14redvert(2005 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Stan said:
"Well Vindy, were they shot or did they die in the flames ? Did anyone bother to find out ?"

I don't think the Vindy reporters had time to do the autopsy. We will probably have to wait for the coroner's ruling. That is kinda how they do it, even in ytown!!!!!

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15Ytownboy(142 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Sounds very much like a professional hit.

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16janeyblue(227 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

No shots no stabs....Hmmmm...Bad drugs...auto-erotic sex? Naw...drug hit!

And to say...I was raised on Lakewood Ave,moved to Parkwood...great grandma lived on Garfield St,my aunt on Evergreen....
So keep your verbal abuse to yourself unless you know the facts!
Yes i live in the burbs now...but always remember WHERE I CAME FROM !!!
As for the downtown area...it is rotten! The smell is foul! Vacant lot right behind the police station with a bunch of vagrants smokin crack! Just walking by them the stench of them made me sick.What a shame as downtown was once vibrant and alive. Now you fear walking in broad daylight!
I hope Jaybamma's plan include pressure washing the whole of downtown...and those loitering in the streets! I have smelled better decomposed dead bodies! Downtown is a sewer! Clean it up and they will come....back!

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Well redvert, sometimes in a haste to put up a story small details are omitted. Like the lack of bullet holes or blood . The Vindy did follow up and suffocation seems to have been the cause of death .

"That is kinda how they do it, even in ytown!!!!! "

Wow redvert ! What an eye opener ! You are very wise !

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18saysithowitiz(98 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm not so sure we are talking about the same city. I am downtown a lot, day and night and I see people walking everywhere. They don't seem to be worried about getting shot, robbed or stabbed to me. And vagrants smoking crack behind the police station...get real, for one I'm pretty sure the cops would have a problem with that and two, most crackheads prefer to be indoors somewhere because they suffer from paranoia. And I'm not so sure anyone has noticed the stench you claim....maybe it's just you, could be time to shower.

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19gmann415(268 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

these wernt kids, they were thugs, gun toting drug dealing gangbangers. their past speaks for it all. they choose to live by the gun and the fast life and it all caught up to them. and im most certin that these punks caused some grief for someone elses family.

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20woolyd(579 comments)posted 4 years, 8 months ago

the police never tells all the evidence they have because they dont want to jeopardize the investigation

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