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Congress will reform health care this year, Ryan, Wilson predict

Published: Wed, August 5, 2009 @ 12:07 a.m.


PROMOTING REFORM: U.S. Rep. Charlie Wilson of St. Clairsville, D-6th, left, advocates health-care reform during an impromptu news conference Tuesday in Youngstown. Joining him is U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan of Niles, D-17th.

Reform will end bias based on pre-existing conditions, a congressman says.

By Peter H. Milliken

YOUNGSTOWN — U.S. Reps. Tim Ryan and Charlie Wilson told reporters that health-care reform is imperative for their constituents, and both lashed out at health- insurance companies.

“The insurance companies have been raking people over the coals,” said Ryan of Niles, D-17th. “They’ve been denying people coverage because they have cancer, heart disease and a variety of other illnesses. They don’t qualify because of pre-existing conditions. Those days are over.”

Ryan said to expect these changes under health-care reform.

“You’re going to get lower costs. You’re going to get better-quality care, and you will not be denied coverage because of a pre- existing condition,” Ryan said.

“Your doctor and you should be making your health-care decisions, not the insurance company,” said Wilson, of St. Clairsville, D-6th. “They’ve spent over $100 million in hiring lobbyists to lobby against what’s being done to reform health care,” he said of the insurance interests.

“If we don’t do some health-care reform to help get better where we are, our nation is going to suffer. ... It’s a big project but one that we need to do,” Wilson added. “We just feel that the reform has been long-needed, and it’s time to push it forward.”

Ryan and Wilson predicted Congress will pass health-care reform by the end of the year.

The local congressmen endorse the reform proposal in House Bill 3200, which has passed through the House Energy and Commerce Committee and still needs to come out of the powerful Ways and Means Committee.

That bill, known as America’s Affordable Health Choices Act, is one of three health-care reform bills in the House, which will have to be reconciled, with a final bill likely to pass the House this fall, Wilson said.

“This reform will allow a business of 15, 20 or 30 people to get into a pool to negotiate health-care prices with millions of other people and drop costs for small business,” Ryan said.

Wilson said 89,000 of his uninsured constituents would get health-care coverage under this plan.

The other reform bills are in the House Labor and Education Committee and in Ways and Means. The Ways and Means Committee will have to focus on funding health-care reform, Wilson said. “The tax part of it is the issue,” Wilson added.

The congressmen, who are home during the House’s summer recess, spoke at an impromptu news conference at the Mahoning County High School on Hudson Avenue, where they and about 200 other people attended a juvenile-crime summit.

“If there’s any area of the country that is thirsty for health-care reform, it’s our area. We’ve seen job loss. We’ve seen people lose their health-care benefits and lose their pensions,” Ryan said. “They want some stability in the economy, and we’re going to get it.”

Hospitals will benefit from health-care reform because “they’ll have paying customers now” instead of trying to shift the costs of charity care to other patients and their insurers, Ryan added.

“We really, sincerely and genuinely want to do the right thing for the people that we represent,” Wilson said.


1blkpride(186 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

and your taxes will go up up and away!!!!!! Thanks Obama and his cronies!!!

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2APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

I predict 2 Congressmen will get to try their luck in the private sector after the next election. Its nice to see them hiding behind the media instead of holding a meeting. What's the matter Timmy scared because Nancy won't be there to hold your hand?

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3timOthy(802 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

On Wilsons comment or quote."we really, sincerly and genuinely want to do the right ting for the people that we represent." Well Wilson we the people want all Elected Officals to take cuts in pay, insurance, and benfits ! Do you want to take the lead ? Just what I thought you Cronie. You and Ryan are both Jokers. You I voted for Wilson. I would'nt pee down your throat if it was on fire. Go back to burying the dead. They don't comment or think about your worthless ideas period.

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4Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

For those that might not recognize it (ie, are new to DSP strategy) the following is an example of the politics of fear and smear. In order to execute the strategy most effectively, you must first accuse your opponent of it during the campaign before you yourself do it.

“The insurance companies have been raking people over the coals,” said Ryan of Niles, D-17th. “They’ve been denying people coverage because they have cancer, heart disease and a variety of other illnesses..”

“Your doctor and you should be making your health-care decisions, not the insurance company,” said Wilson, of St. Clairsville, D-6th.
“If we don’t do some health-care reform to help get better where we are, our nation is going to suffer.”

It's ok, I guess, for politicians and a government panel to deny care, but not your evil insurance company. Hmmmm....

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5Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago



Are we supposed to ignore "cause and effect?" A public option that underprices private coverage won't lead to a single payer system?

Does this administration think we're that stupid?

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6diogenes(19 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

No one needs to organize. Just hire some right-wing whackos from other states to be bused in as the Republican Taliban party has done in other states.

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7Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago


I had once been told that to boil a pot of live frogs one has to slowly heat the water, or else the frogs will jump out. The frogs will otherwise accept their fate and die.

Apparently, the socialists got a little carried away....

Maybe Y-town needs a "Sons of Liberty" group, like 1770s Boston?

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8diogenes(19 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

Do you remember when right-wing congressional staffers were hired tp protest in Florida in 2000 to stop the vote counting? Do you remember when right-wing congressional staffers were hired to stand near the vice president's house to demand that Al Gore vacate Dick Cheney's house?

THAT'S what I'm talking about. The GOP buses supporters in much as the Communist Chinese did at Tiananmen Square in '89 and as the ruling madman did in Tehran just this year.

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9APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

When a NEUTRAL 3rd party, like the CBO, tells you that not only will this legislation not save money, but it will lead to an increase for individual health care costs. I suppose the CBO was brainwashed or paid off by the insurance industry. Keep drinking the koolaid. Obama campaigned on transparency and it hasn't been any better than any other administration. Every question pre-planned with an appropriate answer.

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10cambridge(4166 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

Any thoughts on why the insurance companies would spend 173 million dollars to keep Americans from the freedom of an option? You know they are going to add that 173 million to our premiums don't you? Anybody?


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11APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

Cambridge- Any thought on who's paying for all the ads Obama is running? Who's paying to fly him around the country to promote this? Anyone? Ohh.. that's right everyone.. INCLUDING people that won't be born for another 40 years.

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12sue(179 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

My husband and i both voted for Wilson. What a mistake. We will vote for whoever runs against him next time. Say goodbye to good health care!

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13cambridge(4166 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

APlaw....There is a very big difference. The insurance companies make profits in the billions. The government isn't trying to make a profit, it's trying to help all of us to stop getting ripped off and denied health care. Every President flies around the country promoting legislation or projects they deem worthy.

Remember The Iraq war, Bush the war time President, "No Child Left a Dime", Bush the Education President, 800 billion drug program and on and on, they all sell their agenda. Would you rather they just past these bills without letting the American people know what they are doing?

When Obama was running for office one of the reasons people voted for him was because he said he would reform health care. Now he's doing it.

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14APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

Cambridge- why is it everytime there's an argument about spending someone has to divert it and throw out the ol' George did blah blah blah? THIS administration has tripled, TRIPLED, the national debt in 6 months!!! The government isn't interested in money! Its interested in control. They control health care and then they dictate what you have to do to get some. To balance the 2010 budget, BEFORE the debactle they call reform, it would be necessary to tax everyone that made over $75,000 at 100%! Wake up and quit drinking the kool aid

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15cambridge(4166 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

APlaw....why is it every time you have a political disagreement Kool aid is brought up? When Clinton became President all you heard was "the Dem's tax and spend" and the country will go down the drain. Well Clinton left office with a 2 trillion dollar budget surplus.

I don't know how this is all going to turn out but either do you or anyone else. This is the hand that Obama was dealt and he and his team are dealing with it the way they think they should.

The alternative at election time was a guy who admitted he didn't know much about the economy and who picked a running mate he only met one time who turned out to be a whack job. Where would we be with that team driving down the same road that got us here?

You may be right and maybe the whole country will be left in ruins. I guess we'll see.

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16APlaw(45 comments)posted 6 years, 12 months ago

Cambridge- I'll cool my jets a little. I used "koolaid" twice, in reference to people that believe anything the government feeds them. I didn't trust Bush and I'm not a big fan of the Patriot Act. I will be d@mned if I'll support this reckless spending though, Seriously, Pelosi and Ryan made sure to up the ante from 1 private jet to 3?? At a cost of $200 million, before you figure in tac time. After they criticize GM's CEOs for flying to D.C. Why in the world should Congressmen being flying around in private jets, at anytime, let alone when the rest of the country is struggling and tightening their belts? Ryan and the rest of them have lost touch with reality.

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17Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

If there is anyone left who still thinks it's a good idea to have politicians control your healthcare, see the below articles:



If you are still a believer, please cite an example of successful socialized medicine...anywhere.

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18borylie(953 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Cambridge hijacks another thread.

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19redvert(2240 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

cambridge keeps harping on how Clinton left office with a surplus. Since congress initiates all spending bills and the pubs controlled both houses during the last six years of Clinton's presidency I think they may of had something to do with that surplus. I hate to think of what would of happened if Clinton would of had a liberal congress. Daaaahhhhh!! To Clinton's credit, he did understand that it was give and take to get the things he wanted. As I have said before, I always liked the executive and congress to be controlled by different parties. "checks and balances"

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20redvert(2240 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Here is the proposed healthcare bill in PDF format for your enjoyment. I listed a couple parts that are interesting. I will probably find more as I continue reading it.


page 42, The Health Choices Commissioner appointed by the president (another CZAR) will set the health benefits plan standards.

page 50, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE. Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.

The illegal aliens get taken care of. They will remember this when they are allowed to vote!

page 91, CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTICALLY APPROPRIATE SERVICES AND COMMUNICATIONS.—The entity shall provide for culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services.

Guess who we are talking about again?

In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of the taxpayer’s modified adjusted gross in come for the taxable year.

Who pays the penalty for the nonworking nontaxpaying welfare crowd?

page 203, The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax imposed by this chapter for purposes of determining the amount of any credit under this chapter or for purposes of section 55.’’

Yes, it really does say exactly that!

page 417, EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.—The term ‘‘effective communication’’ means an exchange of information between the provider of health care or health care-related services and the limited English proficient recipient of such services that enables limited English proficient individuals to access, understand, and benefit from health care or health care related services.

illegal aliens!

page 469, COMMUNITY-BASED MEDICAL HOME DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘community-based medical home’ means a nonprofit community-based or State-based organization that is certified under paragraph 2 as meeting the following requirements...

Some how I see ACORN drooling!

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21thepotstirrer(67 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Congressman Wilson & Ryan,
I will be 100% behind you if you vote for this legislation with one catch. You, your families, and your staff must opt out of the 5 year legislative exemption for members of Congress immediately and enroll in this very health care option you are supporting. In addition you must not use any funds for private insurance care if one of your camp becomes ill, regardless of the outcome.
If this reform is the answer to our problems in health care, than you should have no problem leading by example, and testing out the system run by the federal government!!

The Pot Stirrer

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22stoutmaster(29 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Remember, socialism is for the "people", not the socialists. Case in point for the politicians opting out of this program.

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23cambridge(4166 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago


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24andersonathan(687 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

To above poster I agree when Ryan signs up for it.

When all government employees and union workers including postal and teachers and state employees get in line for the same health care for the common folk for the freebie.

It is socialism at its best. And that will never be good for me.

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25JD010101(137 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

everyone is talking about an option for health care. do like I did. get a friggin job with health care. if you cant find one in the valley move. simple. i had an option for health care pay out of my pocket or find a job that co pays. I moved out of the valley and found one that co pays. The Dems will not let you have this option for FREE baby. It will definately come with a price tag. RYAN'S a sellout to OBACARE.

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26MD1533(25 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

There is a link at the bottom that shows the executive order.


Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to know.....

Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our
backs. You may want to read about it.. It wasn ' t mentioned on the
news... just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN

Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to
the USA . This is the news that didn ' t make the headlines...

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure
of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees
and "conflict victims" in Gaza .

The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians with ties to Hamas t o resettle in the United States ,
was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on
February 4.

Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order
provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to
individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to=2 0the
Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of
January 2006.

Let ' s review....itemized list of some of Barack Obama ' s most recent
actions since his inauguration:

20 His first call to any head of state, as president, was to Mahmoud
Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.

His first one-on-one television interview with any news organization
was with Al Arabia television.

His first executive order was to fund/facilitate abortion(s) not just
here within the U. S. , but within the world, using U. S. tax payer

He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees

He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.

He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole
and the "terror attack" on 9/11.

Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian
refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.

These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the
blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.

Doubtful? To verify this for yourself:

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27Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago


From a future resident of a government internment camp, you best mind your words. Surely you realize that the Obama administration has set up a website (flag@whitehouse.gov) for your neighbors to turn you in. Undoubtedly, you've already joined me on a government watch list.


The Nonsocilaist

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28Stan(9923 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago


Obamacare: Forced Euthanasia for Seniors?


President Obama began to lay the groundwork for “messing” with Medicare when he publicly mused that perhaps his grandmother (who died last fall) should not have had a hip replacement in old age.

If Obamacare becomes law, expect Medicare – which represents 15 percent of the federal budget, consumes 11 percent of federal taxes, and has a future unfunded liability of at least $60 trillion (yes, trillion) – to be cut immediately.

According to Medicare expert Dr. Thomas Saving of Texas A&M, if the “federal income tax remains at the 50-year average of 10.89 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, the present value of all future federal income tax revenues from now to eternity is $99.3 trillion so that the Medicare debt of $61.6 trillion is 62 percent of all future federal tax receipts.” Since the feds will not spend that much money to meet this financial obligation, its only alternative is rationing health care for the elderly.

Obama’s top medical advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel’s brother) has called for denying treatment to senior citizens outright. “Unlike allocation by sex or race,” he recently wrote, “allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if twenty-five-year olds receive priority over sixty-five-year olds, everyone who is sixty-five years now was previously twenty-five years.” This amounts to a clever tap dance for throwing the elderly over the side.

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29LieDetector(27 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Put down the kool-ade for a second and open your freakin eyes you ill informed and brainwashed democrats...On top of all the control this administration has taken, they are cramming this health care bill down our throats at blinding speed. NOT telling you for sure how its paid for...HUh! You can be sure that its tax increases all around for everybody!! And all the hyped up critisum of the insurance companies youll find that the government will do even worse...count on it. You ill informed and spineless liberals who elected that incompetent, corrupt,and wanna be dictator with dillusions of godhood, because you HATED Bush sooo much, have doomed this country....Thanks!!!!! We will remember

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30LieDetector(27 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

P.S. Good job on electing those two pied pipers Ryan and Wilson.....Probably stupid enough to do it again i assume

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31babs68(58 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

This is exactly why there are riots in these campaigns...I don't agree w/ the increase of taxes to pay for this, but my question is aren't we paying it anyways when people w/ no insurance can't pay there bills, and when people use Medicaid...It's pay now or pay later but anyway that it goes you, and I will have to pay.

My only thing is that I know how difficult it can be for people struggling not to be able to afford checkups, or much needed medications. I know how my insurance premiums keep going up, and my benefit packages aren't getting any better.

Really I am just sick of it all, but by all means I don't see where the big insurance companies are giving me back any monies for taking care of myself. I have great bp/ chol/Sugar checkups..I receive a physical every year, and yet not ever have they Mrs...here is $200.00 for performing preventative measures and being in good health. Somebody has got to change the way these pharmaceutical companies and healthcare companies are controlling us...and that's my views.

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32MD1533(25 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

The American People who think this Heath Care Plan is a good thing are wrong! Some the Best Health Care Administrators just met with Congress and Obama's people and told them not to get involved in the Health Insurance Business and that they should only regulate the Insurance Companies! This plan will come back to haunt all Americans, including me. People just cannot see the repercussions that will come with it down the road! Wake up America! Keep government out of the Insurance Business for your own good! Period!

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33LieDetector(27 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Trying to discuss logic and facts with a liberal is futile. The fact...yes..fact that a large majority of their followers are of a lower education and intelligence. They do not have minds of their own. They must be told what to believe. repeat over and over the same mantras, pervert twist and spin all the facts, make all lies seem as facts,andnot to believe whats before their eyes and ears. Their self serving,uninformed,and out right ignorance,at the cost of the destruction of our country and childrens futures is all they know. They will follow the most corrupt and criminal administration in our history because they have made fools of themselves by voting for this loud mouthed scam artist that has disgraced the office of the presidentcy and has flirted,along with his axis of evil cohorts, with treasonist acts and comments. They will follow to the end cause they wont admit they were wrong to put in an incompetent,egotistical wanna be dictator with dilusions of god hood in charge. Somehow voting for some one because you hated George Bush sooo freaken much just sounds like the act of a true moron with no reguards for their fellow man nor country.Unfortunately you did not only screw yourselves which you so rightly deserve, but you damned us all. We will remeber who you are when it all comes tumbling down. Maybe there should be an intelligence test of some kind given before you can vote!!!!!

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34cambridge(4166 comments)posted 6 years, 11 months ago

Hilarius! LMAO!

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