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Liberty awaits impact of new Wal-Mart
By Don Shilling
The township administrator predicts the store will transform Belmont Avenue.
LIBERTY — Love it or hate it, the new Wal-Mart Supercenter here opens Aug. 19, and people on both sides agree Liberty will never be the same.
“This is the best thing that’s happened here,” said Madeline Romeo, 62, of Liberty, who’s looking forward to saving money on paper towels, cleaning supplies and food.
Pat Ungaro, the township administrator who’s been working for years to bring Wal-Mart to the Liberty Plaza, said competition will help shoppers, but retailers also will benefit from the additional traffic the new store will bring.
“The development will be incredible. We probably won’t recognize Belmont Avenue in two years,” he said.
Not everyone is predicting great things for the area, however.
Sandy Zander, who owns Union Square Sparkle at Belmont and Gypsy Lane, said many jobs will be lost from small retailers who can’t offer the same prices as the nation’s largest retailer. As a Supercenter, the new store will offer a full line of groceries.
“Stores close around them, and not just supermarkets,” he said.
He predicted stores in Girard and Hubbard will struggle, in addition to those in Liberty, as customers come to Wal-Mart instead of hometown retailers.
“How many are going to survive? I don’t know. Am I going to try very hard? Yes,” said Zander, who also owns Cochran’s Sparkle Market on South Avenue in Boardman.
Zander said he thinks his Youngstown store can survive by offering service to customers and relying on loyalty that’s been built up through years of community involvement and charitable donations.
Henry Nemenz, who operates a Save-A-Lot grocery store next to Wal-Mart, also thinks that grocery stores that aren’t in the plaza will suffer from Wal-Mart’s presence.
On the other hand, he thinks his store will gain customers because of the added traffic in the plaza, so he has upgraded the interior and exterior of the Save-A-Lot.
“We’re getting ready to take care of some of their customers,” he said.
Not all retailers, however, share the concerns of Zander and Nemenz.
Patti Syphard, manager of Designer Furniture Warehouse in the Liberty Plaza, said her store recently installed new carpet and put a fresh coat of paint on the interior in anticipation of extra business once Wal-Mart opens.
“I definitely anticipate an increase in sales,” she said.
The area already is looking better, she said. The plaza’s parking lot has been repaved, and the sidewalk has been cleaned. Fast-food restaurants at the front of the plaza have renovated their exteriors.
“I believe if you go down the street, you’ll see the same thing happening,” she said.
That’s the case at Charley’s Grilled Subs, 3219 Belmont Ave. Chris Smallwood of Liberty, a former Chrysler engineer in Twinsburg, bought an abandoned building and opened his restaurant last year.
“Wal-Mart was one of the most important factors in choosing this location,” he said.
Business has been slower than he expected so far, but he’s expecting a big jump in demand once the Wal-Mart opens. His restaurant sells freshly cooked Philly cheesesteaks and homemade milkshakes.
Ungaro said Charley’s is one of several businesses that have upgraded Belmont Avenue by moving into abandoned buildings.
Little Jimmy’s Italian Food Specialties has moved into a former Ponderosa restaurant that was vacant for 10 years, and Aaron’s is building a new rent-to-own store at the site of the former Boatyard restaurant.
In addition, developers who build stores for large national retailers have been calling since Wal-Mart announced it was coming to Liberty, Ungaro said. Some projects have been delayed by the recession, but he thinks more retailers are coming.
He said the northern end of the township also will develop because water and sewer lines have been extended in that direction along Belmont.
“Wal-Mart is going to change the face of Belmont Avenue,” he said.
Thomas Urena, the Wal-Mart store manager, said he’s preparing to have 350 workers ready for opening day, including 35 who have transferred from other stores. About half the employees are full time.
“I think we’re going to be a busy store. I think the community is looking forward to it,” he said.
At 157,000 square feet, the new store is smaller than some other Supercenters in the region, he said. Stores in Austintown and Canton, for example, have 200,000 square feet.
The Liberty store also will have a few different features different from other Supercenters, he said.
The new store will have no displays in the aisles because they impede shoppers on busy days, he said. This is a new concept being tested at the Liberty store and the Salem store, which is being remodeled, he said.
The pharmacy of the Liberty store is located toward the rear of the store, near the sales of consumer items. In older Wal-Marts, the pharmacies are located up front but off to the side.
Also, the new store was designed to be more energy-efficient, Urena said. It has many skylights and is designed to use less electric light during the day. The roof was engineered to reflect heat in the summer but store it in the winter, and the floor is made of recycled concrete, he said.
Inside, shoppers will notice an expanded electronics area, he added.
shilling@vindy.com
Stan (2579 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days agoAgainst this backdrop of emerging corruption scandals, workers across the country began to rebel against the UFCW. In November 1999 Judge Lesley Brooks Wells ordered that an election be held by the entire membership of Local 1 of the Textile Processors Union. The election was overseen by Frank Scalish and his business agent Tony Rockman. The rank and file voted to mandate that the entire membership of the Union vote on whether or not to merge with another Union, thus challenging Scalish’ plan to merge with the UFCW.
In January, 2000 the workers at 2 Tartan Textile plants in Youngstown voted to de-certify from Local 1 and join UNITE!, the Union of Needletrades, Industrial, and Textile Employees. The election was ordered by the National Labor Relations Board, the government agency with authority over Labor Union issues. The election was held under the auspices of the "Doctrine of Schism," established a half-century ago as a means of allowing Union rank and filers to throw out Unions dominated by organized crime.
Currently, a de-certification effort against the UFCW is being waged by nurses at St. John’s Mercy Medical Center near St. Louis, grocery store workers in Worcester, Massachusetts, and a de-authorization effort is being made by workers of UFCW Local 1 in New York, the Local which had nearly $1 million stolen from it by former UFCW International Secretary-Treasurer Joseph Talarico
hope4thevalley (393 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago HEY !!!!! stop picking on Stan . We need his comments to keep these thing going . He is will read and have his right to his opinions ( wrong most of the time)
Just kidding Stan
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago Notice that the only person here that is pushing the gay theme is tiredofStan.
A psychologist would analyze that as conversing in an area that he is most comfortable with. Whatever that might mean.....
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago 6beagles, once more you have stated that Henry has a lot of foreign products on his shelves. You are really grasping for anything aren't you. Is it true that the union cashiers at Giant Eagle will not ring up any foreign items?
Oh, let me add that I am referring to any items other than the items from the ethnic isle. Of course there wouldn't be any would there?
Please answer this time!
Stan (2579 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago "I feel just fine being tiredofStan. Nice touch.
No doubt !
So this is gay pride month at UFCW ?
http://www.ufcw.org/gay_and_lesbian_prid...
cambridge (916 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago foxtrot...you stated "Unions do nothing but to hinder growth in any community." California is probably the most unionised state in the country and it has the eighth largest economy in the world. So much for your theory.
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago cambridge, I see that California passed a emergency budget to keep from going bankrupt. Glad to hear it. Sounds like you folks are doing fine. "it is all Arnold's fault." I guess you are right since the pubs* control the legislature.
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 10 days ago tiredofStan or 6beagles, whomever you want to be today, no you don't have to justify your actions. None of us do. I enjoy jousting over a Vindy story cause it is fun. For you it appears to be part of your job to push for what you believe in and that is fine. You are not going to change my opinion and I am sure I am not going to change yours. I think this thread is at the point of just rehashing the same stuff.
With that I will sign off and look up my Orlando Sentinel newspaper. They seem to want to challenge Ytown when it comes to shootings.
cambridge (916 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago redvert....thanks for the interest, things are great and will only get better when we have our next elections.
Search4Answers (613 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago I don't see this Walmart in Liberty going too well. I went to the Save-a-lot or a similiar store in that area, TONS of shoplifting. I don't see this walmart being able to overcome the amount of shrinkage the area near youngstown deals with.
ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago Cambridge, California in bankrupt! It's issuing IOU's in lieu of our currency and the Mafia and socialist unions are a big part of that state's problem. As for Arnold being a GOPer, that party is a lefto joke just like the Dems. In addition, Arnold has destroyed himself; he is married to a Kennendy, when you mix with trash like Arnold did, you become trash as well. California, a lib's dream, no illegal immigrant laws, gay marriages, the NEA, restrictions on building new electrical plants, affirmative action, emergency hospital care for everybody. Wake up before it becomes you worst nightmare.
foxtrot (679 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago California has high taxes, and companies are looking to leave there. Youngstown would do well luring companies to leave CA for OH. The primary reason the numbers are so high for California is that everything is inflated there. You have to buy special furnaces and hot water tanks there. Electricity is expensive and there is far too many liberal rules to consider locating any industrial facility there. L.A. is a huge GHETTO, filled with crime and slums. California is a perfect model of liberal failure.
foxtrot (679 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago If you follow the model of California, taxes will skyrocket (10.25% sales tax in Los Angeles County), quality of life will be low (the average house is 24 feet X 28 feet), and crime will be sky-high.
Search4Answers (613 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago I've never understood how people do it. As bad as ohio can be atleast we don't have to worry about half the stuff Californians, New Yorkers and Massachusetts people do.
cambridge (916 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago LOL! I've lived in Ohio and I live in California and believe me California is better. I could sell my personal residence in California and pay cash for a home in the best neighborhood in the valley, buy a new Bentley cash, pay you clowns to leave town and have a pile of money left over.
How much time have any of you spent in California? The number of top companies in the world that are headquartered here is staggering. You think they are going to pull up stakes and move to the valley. I'm laughing so hard right now my side hurts. I'm amazed how people think they know so much about a place the obviously know nothing about.
foxtrot (679 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago How about the wildfires there right now?
cambridge (916 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago foxtrot...Your probably referring to the Santa Cruz Mountains fires. A beautiful area, very remote a lot of redwood, pine and eucalyptus trees. One of my favorite places to motorcycle ride. Ride the mountains,over to the coast down to Santa Cruz, ride out onto the boardwalk, have some sea food and ride back. A great day. Click on the link below and watch the videos of riding some of the roads. Don't try this at home.
As far as the fires, it's part of nature. Mostly caused by lightning. It actually adds nutrients to the soil and grows back amazingly quick. It is remote but if you own a home their it could be trouble. Wildfires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms blizzards, it's all part of nature. Just go with the flow.
http://www.pashnit.com/motoroads.htm#SCM...
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago Cambridge, got to mess with you a bit. All in fun of course. In post #88 you stated that you could sell your residence for cash etc., etc. Ok, a couple months ago you stated that there was a house on your street listed for ~650-700K. Since you are too smart to have a overpriced house in a 650-700K neighborhood your house would be worth about the same. Let us say 800K in these troubled times. I found 7 houses listed in Canfield in the price range of 625K to 1.1mil. for you to pick from. 800K minus 625K leaves 175K. The cheapest Bentley I found was 174K (http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/prici...) That only leaves 1K to distribute among the clowns in order for them to leave Ytown. No pile of money left over. Plus you will need to buy extra furniture for the bigger house here.
Nothing worse than a old fart with lots of time on his hands. Though I admit that I did stop halfway through typing this to go fix a neighbors AC unit.
Now back to California. Spent some time back in the 60's at Vandenberg AFB. Also in the 80's I went to Semicon West a couple times before they moved it to the Mosconi Center. Also a couple trips to Orange (LA area). The Orange area was the only part of Calif. that I didn't care too much for. No doubt about it though, California offers beaches, mountains, forests, desert, etc. Anything you may like. I think Calif. is taxing the working class too much but I am afraid that is what the rest of the country is in for.
cambridge (916 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago redvert....LOL! I figured you clowns were a cheap date. Great post. Especially the part where you were making fun of me.
redvert (495 comments)posted 3 months, 9 days ago cambridge, always get a laugh out of the people that whine about how tough things are in the valley but are not willing to bite the bullet and leave (as you have advised on a number of occasions.) I spent my working career in Florida after I got out of the AF in Florida because I didn't see this area as very promising back then with the mills shutting down and the effect on other industry. Didn't make as much money originally as I might have but it worked out fine. Used my head, invested wisely in commercial real estate and retired at 55. My guess is that you are in California because you pursued your goals instead of waiting for them to come to you.
You sure you are a democrat? You have made a few statements that make me wonder how close to the middle you could be!
Until we joust again!!!
Stan (2579 comments)posted 3 months, 8 days ago Ah the love for the UFCW is ever so evident ! So it looks like paying union dues and high food prices is not everyones wish .
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Walmart's food prices are some of the MOST expensive I've ever encountered! All of their prices are beaten by local grocers' sales, but the public assumes Walmart is always the best price. Walmart only beats prices when their manager gets corporate to honor a local sale price, which must be accompanied by them confiscating your local ad. Walmart also does NOT compete against their own stores, so you will see different prices in different area..
Walmart also raises all of their prices 30% or higher when they build or convert to a SuperCenter!
Walmart hired a company that uses illegal Mexican workers to finish areas of this store, as well as in the upgraded SuperWalmart recently remodelled in Ravenna!
Walmart is NOT the great value it used to be, and you have to shop around just like everywhere else.
I've NEVER saved more than 3 cents shopping at Walmart, and nowadays I waste more money shopping there, so I shop Target for store-brand items, and all the regional and local grocers for my shopping needs.
WALMART CANNOT COMPETE to better local stores that run more efficient operations. The biggest draw to Walmart is 24/7 convenience with discounted prices, but this store will NOT be 24/7!
Walmart Semi-Sythetic Oil Change - $30
Gemini/GoodYear Semi-Synth Oil Change - $19.95
And here's another dilemna they will encounter...
How wiill they be able to prevent another 500+ shoplifing calls a year that already happens at the Boardman/Poland Walmart?
WIll the entire electronics and media department be locked up behind secured cages and you have to pay for those items in advance and pick them up at later on your way out?
Walmart...What a MESS!
Come to Salem. The downtown is deserted. Crime is up and I echo the price and shoplifting concerns 'thewave', above.
I've heard nightmare stories of their auto service dept. Walking into the Salem Supercenter you get the feeling of walking into an armed camp. The selections seem no better or even slimmer than local merchants. But no one checks, they just go to Wal-Mart.
All of our local politicians gave us the same crap about how Wal-Mart will enhance the opportunities of local merchants. They lied. It leaves me wondering about our local politicians motives. All Wal-Mart brought was a whole lot of people from out of town who leave crime, litter, and a touch of fear in their wake. Traffic is crazy near the store, which was built on a hillside on a road that was never meant to bear the load it now sees.
“This is the best thing that’s happened here,”
Sad... How many jobs will be produced that can afford to feed a family?
since i do work there i know of no illegal Mexican workers in the store. i have been there over 3 weeks so who ever you are " thewave" you realy dont know what you are saying ................... at least there giving people jobs
UFCW local 880 picketers will be there !
UFCW local 880 picketers will be on the scene investigating the merchandise and spending the money that they earned by picketing Henry's IGA and Save A Lot stores. Their consensus is that everybody knows that Walmart is non union so there is no need for informational picketing.
brj2009 posted
"since i do work there i know of no illegal Mexican workers in the store. i have been there over 3 weeks so who ever you are " thewave" you realy dont know what you are saying ................... at least there giving people jobs"
It's one of the areas regular subcontractors who brings these guys in, and they work odd hours when the others are gone for the day...I've personally seen them working at the Ravenna conversion while shopping there at 10pm, have been told they WERE working at this location over a month ago, and was also told they work for many of the Lowes remodelling projects, by a Lowes employee. I personally don't care who builds what for whom, but I wanted to add that to the mix of this fiasco that Walmart will become.
IF you work there, BRJ2009, are you a Walmart employee or a contractor/subcontractor? Nobody knows everything, but don't start attacking people for something they have been seen or been told.
If you are an employee of the store, why isn't this Super Walmart a 24/7 store like ALL the others?
You will be be sorry . They ever come to your town
Wal Mart will be good for Liberty, just ask the 300+ new local employees. What businesses does Wal Mart hurt? The ones who can't complete. It also provides products to the poor who can't afford to pay gold plates prices. I predict other retailers in Liberty will strive to compete with it and that will improve prices for their consumers as well. Capitalism, unlike socialism isn't stagnant; it provides opportunity for it's citizens like employment and prosperity.
Hey "thewave" why are you complaining about Walmart, Lowe's, etc? They didn't hire the illegals, the subcontractors did.
I don't like it any more than you do, but go to the source. Maybe if our government (not just the current, but the past ones) would have stopped the illegals, those jobs would have gone to locals. And if the local politicans would have demanded using local workers to the sub-contractors, then everyone would be happy.
As long as the local business, (ie Sparkles, etc) offer good prices and good service they will be fine. I have a lot of dealings with some of the large big box retailers and I will tell you, that they are not a threat if you take care of your customers and employees.
Walmart coming to Liberty is not the end of civilization, it just means the local businesses need to be on their toes and that will be good for everyone
Pro American I C A little Levin in your words kinda like that.
For the rest or most of you here if you don't like it [Wal Mart] then do not shop there and quite whining about it.
And seriously would you open a 24/7 super store
with big screens and appliances in a area like this. So if security is like Fort Knox either here or other places don't blame the store.
Wake up, Pro-American. Wal-Mart sells crap to rubes. Line up suckers. It is China's 8th largest trading partner. A real 'Pro-American' would stay the hell away from a store who does such a large trade with a slave labor, Communist police state. I have one of those crap stores in my back yard. Wait till you see what that place really does to a town. Just more money siphoned down to Bentonville AR.
Austintown has 185167 ft^2, Boardman has 136122 ft^2. I've done some Google maps. It will be the closest Walmart to downtown, the north side, the northern part of the west side, most of the east side, Hubbard, and Girard. Glenwood & Mahoning is closer to Liberty than Austintown or Boardman. The best thing is that less people will have to go to the Boardman Walmart, which I rate as the worst by far in this region.
What it does to town? Go to Hemitage PA and look what it did to that city. As the area grows...and it will...we locals that own property will benifit. And if you currently enjoy walking down run down Belmont Ave...good for you...feel safe? I enjoy the change that is comming. OUR community improves. So if you dont like it...dont shop there...simple isnt it.
Better yet...Do you WANT to walk down Bemont Ave as it stands...NO.
Block50: Kmart, Target, Dollar General, Family Dollar, Big Lots, and every other major retailer does the same things as Walmart. It is all the same basic types of consumer goods crap everywhere, not just Walmart.
Give me a city that draws people in...please...and thank you Mayor U!
block50, Salem's crime problem and empty downtown are real, but have nothing to do with Wal-Mart. The downtown was empty before a shovel ever hit dirt on that building, and the crime has been making its way slowly south from Youngstown for years.
I'm not pro Wal-Mart by any means, but Salem was screwed as it was before that thing ever opened.
Prices are better at Walmart. I drive to Warren every week to grocery shop and Giant Eagle, Topps and most other places can't touch the price. Ever buy cereal or Coke products at Giant Eagle?
If you don't like it don't go. As for crime remember one thing...Walmart will throw the book at you for any crime against them.
To the pro-USA person remember this too....you can't find many things made in America any more. I am in the steel industry right here in the USA and I am proud of it. I will NOT pay 15-40% more for something because it is made in the USA at sweat shops in the south by minimum wage immigrant labor that is just as exploited as the Chinese.
Bottom line...don't like Walmart stay off Belmont Ave. If we let the current mentality run off Walmart then we might as well close the valley and send everyone out of the area to parts unknown....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQtp6KMAI...
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If I didn't go to Walmart, then I would go Save-a-Lot or Marc's. I make it a point to patronize non-union stores. Outside of management, there is no such thing as a "skilled" store worker. It's mostly taking things out of a box and putting them on a shelve. How much skill does that require?
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Beagledog, it took you longer whining to the Vindy to have the post removed than it did to put it up .
I'll be at the Liberty Walmart grand opening. Hope to see you there . Bring the picket signs to show that you are serious against Walmart doing business without paying extortion ( AKA UNION DUES ) to UFCW Local 880 .
Stan the Man Unusual....I was under the impression that you were a union auto worker. Is that correct? If not, my apologies.
I was associated with GM Lordstown but not as an assembly line worker . Many of our family and friends still work there . I owe UFCW local 880 nothing . Their actions have caused Giant Eagle to lose customers and UFCW Local 880 has lost good will .
Beagledog:
Being Giant Eagles lapdog you must really feel empowered . Paying high union dues to keep the upper echelon at UFCW in mansions and jets must give you a warm glow all over .
"As far as picketing Nemenz, the pickets seem to be gaining more support every day."
Ah Beagledog, it looks like the people are getting fed up with your cluttering up the place .
I could stand the publicity . Graphics work has been a bit slow in The Valley .
Now where did I say that I was against UAW ? UFCW hardly supports GM workers by patronizing GM products . Raising food prices atrociously high is your goal and that helps no one in this economic climate .
Stan the Man Unusual....If you were actually a union member and took advantage of what others have sacrificed and then bad mouth unions you are no better than ProMerkin.
Wal Mart will be great for Liberty. It's been great for Salem too. It's downtown is deserted because the consumers prefer Wal Mart. It's called competition. I know Wal Mart buys lots of merchandise from China, but what retailer doesn't? After all, what business wants to put up with unions, the EPA, EEOC and all the other useless government agencies? Also, our government, the same one which wants to provide us with national health insurance, provides tax write off for American corps. relocation outside America. The two main reasons America is being destroyed is the govt. and socialist, Mafia unions.
How does this grab you Beagledog . Your antics have directed hatred toward the UAW where there should be none for what they have done for The Valley . What has the UFCW does besides being the lap dog for Giant Eagle and causing hate for the UAW in The Valley ? Do tell !
Picket Walmart and you may have some credibility . Picket Giant Eagle and I'll honor your picket line . If you were picketing Henry's stores with the intent of unionizing you may have some credibility and gain respect . Do you have any intent of unionizing any of his stores ?
Lets face it, you are nothing but a lap dog for Giant Eagle ! I don't owe it to you to patronize Giant Eagle and pay their atrociously high food prices !
I am not the only one that you have stirred up with your antics . There are plenty of others that don't appreciate your giving unions in The Valley a bad name !
Big deal another Walmart. There are WalMart's in Boardman, Warren, Austintown, Hermitage, Salem, New Castle, and Sam's Club's in Boardman and Niles.
I won't ever buy a thing at Giant Eagle, Sparkle, or any other union store. The unskilled laborers there aren't worth but a fraction of their costs.
No amount of BS is going to cover your performance of lack thereof Beagledog . I have yet to see you post anything in response to the bashing of the UAW which was prompted by your actions . Many autoworkers are out of jobs in The Valley . Many more are retired with cut back pensions and had health benefits cut . I'm sure that they are excited about patronizing atrociously high priced Giant Eagle whose goal is to be a high priced monopoly by eliminating the competition .
Show me where you are unionizing any IGA's or Save A Lot's . Have you taken a vote in any of the stores to see if the employees desire to pay union dues ? Many In the UFCW dues paying stores grumble over paying union dues but getting little in return .
So Mr. Hypocrite are you going to picket, "THE GIANT RETAILER", WALMART in Liberty when they open ?
"Thomas Urena, the Wal-Mart store manager, said he’s preparing to have 350 workers ready for opening day"
There is lots of potential there for a pile of money in union dues . The store is very close to Giant Eagle on 193 and will have a severe impact on them .
Better check the posts . I have exposed your selfish goals and nothing more . Now show me where you have stood up for GM LORDSTOWN .
http://www.vindy.com/news/2009/may/29/am...
Stan (1670 comments)posted 2 months, 14 days ago
babs68 said:
"Mr. 62 year old, I am not being disrespectfull but You are the exact reason why GM is in the situation to begin with.."
GM LORDSTOWN WAS BUILT ON THE BACKS OF THE OLDER WORKERS. TODAY THEY ARE BEING STRIPPED OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY WORKED FOR.
I am not anti union but a don't agree with your underlying motives .
Now where have you had a vote in any of Henry's stores ? The people who work there have jobs and are earning a living . They are entitled to that .
Now show me just one post of yours where you quelled the bashing of GM and Lordstown .
So you drive GM cars . That's a plus . How many others at UFCW do so ?
Very lame Beagledog . If I see where you you quelled the bashing of GM and Lordstown I'll have respect for you . I see you as self centered . So lets see you back GM Lordstown which includes Delphi workers also on this board and you just may work up some credibility .
To unionize is is one thing but to just have the intent to destroy is where I have no sympathy for you .
I shop both union and non union . My criteria is good products, reasonable pricing and a friendly atmosphere .
I see a big disperity between Giant Eagle pricing and many others in The Valley and we are not talking about a nickle or so either . For what they charge they could afford to pay their help a lot more . My guess would be that there is a special relationship between the union bosses and David S. Shapira .
Have a vote at either store that you have picketed and see how many friends you have generated . Why haven't you had a vote at either store ?
I have done much in the past to make the workplace safe and enjoyable . Many have benefited . My range of friends extends from union to non union . Many non union friends buy GM Lordtown built cars on my advice . I in return patronize their places of business . Goodwill promotes better understanding and is good for both sides. If you ever gain any wisdom you will understand.
I look upon the many from GM and Delphi who have worked for years and watched their pensions and health benefits slashed . They now must spend their last days trying to survive on what is left . The lucky ones have no mortage and good health . The unfortunate with mortages and high prescription costs will eventually lose their homes . Health issues compounded by worry will cut their lives short . Reasonable food costs for them is not much to ask for . You may never understand .
The unions and Giant Eagle leave Big Dog Walmarket alone because of Walmaket's ability to spend big dollars and use expensive lawyers to fight their case. Walmarket will take drastic measures if necessary. They have even been known to close down a store in Canada rather than submit to unions. That is why unions and Giant Eagle only pick on local stores...the local owner does not have deep pockets to fight a long battle.
High taxes are good also as it spreads the wealth . Too bad that most of it gets digested by the well paid politicians and government workers. A trickle goes to the people who shelled out the tax dollars to begin with .
In the case of UFCW 880 and Giant Eagle it is David S. Shapira and his friends who control UFCW that digest more than their fair share of your food dollar . Some of the highest food prices in the nation are charged bt Giant Eagle who with their lap dogs at UFCW have no shame .
Is Extra Base still in the Liberty Plaza? I heard there is a Billy Ripken card with a swear on his bat in the photo.
Beagle, you stated that Henry has a lot of foreign stuff on his shelves. Are you saying that Giant Eagle doesn't have any foreign stuff on their shelves? I am sure that a union employee would not sell any foreign products. Am I correct?
Beagledog is posting from a Chinese built computer and doesn't mind .
If they work at Walmart they should either be older with grown kids, or not have any kids at all. They should know that they can't afford to raise a family on any store wage, as stores are for unskilled labor. The figures 6beagles gave above is what the government would spend (waste) anyway if the people didn't work at all.
Unions do nothing but to hinder growth in any community.
The UAW at Lordstown brought more money to the community from the good wages received from the highly productive workers at GM Lordstown . Recently one billion dollars was spent upgrading the plant to make it state of art . No corporation spends that kind of money unless the facility is highly productive.
High fuel prices that topped over four dollars per gallon occured quickly and forced consumer to re-adjust their spending habits. With older cars being driven longer new car sales plummeted. GM had its first major crisis since 1966 when the plant opened.
Highest Paid Local 880 Leaders & Staff Name
Thomas Robertson President $ 187,641
Carl Ivka Union Representative $ 118,267
Robert Grauvogl Secretary-treasurer $ 117,339
Michael Krzys Vice President $ 112,305
Jill Adam Vice President $ 98,716
Gary Weitzel Vice President $ 96,215
Grace Sisson Director Of Accounting $ 93,941
Barbara Caruso Coordinator $ 93,160
Samuel Clem Union Representative $ 86,603
Mark Rock Admin Asst To President $ 84,736