VIDEO: Police identify dead man found in submerged SUV

Same dude?

http://courts.mahoningcountyoh.gov/pa...

Looks like someone was trying to get some pay back.

He would have only been 17 then. That was in 1992.

Your point?

Aw Man! Now we can't drink the water from the Mahoning since it's been polluted with the shooting victim.

"Blackburn said the initial investigation shows that Ware was shot in the head, possibly multiple times"
Seriously? Mr. Blackburn, the body wasn't there that long that you couldn't assess if he'd been shot more than once?

My point is that would make him a juvenile and he would probably been tried at Juvie court.

Aeparish: You don't have to be so rude ALL the time.

It's common sense.

This is Youngstown and voluntary manslaughter isn't unheard of around here. We don't even know for sure if it's the same guy, but if it is and if he was 17 when that crime was committed, then there was a pretty good chance he would have been tried as an adult.

2 counts of voluntary manslaughter are serious enough charges to get a 17 year old tried as an adult in my book. Same guy. Obviously retaliation.

Detectives are NOT Coroners nor are they permitted to make definite statements such as "the victim was shot 3 times in the head." Until the Coroner says the victim was shot 3 times in the head it can only APPEAR to be that way. Scrooge should do his homework and quit taking shots at the cop.

Scrooge:
Sorry your usual trip to drink water from the mahoning turned your stomach.

Does anyone know if the suburban is in running condition? I need one for parts.

You know its amazing how you all know everything. Are you all on the YPD?? If not you should since you know exactly whats going on. Instead of everybody just asuming sh** why don't you just wait until the facts are posted........ but still you will all talk to sh**. Grow up...

OMG henry u think anybody is worried about the parts of the car.....you ignorant as* people

The crazy thing is, the people on this page really think that it's funny for a person to lose their life. I know Kendal, his mother, father and family. And it saddens me that someone sitting at a computer, could make light of the death of someone. Especially someone that you don't even know. Would you make light of the 13 people who lost their lives in NY. Understand that the same thing that you find funny, could 1 day happen to you. Imagine someone is reading your name in the paper, and you were shot and dumped in a lake. No one, and I truly mean no one, not even you in your sheltered, safe, ingnorant world, deserves to die like that. In our ignorants, we always feel that "this could never happen to me," until it does. Don't be cruel all your life!!!!! Andre'

Kendall some of us remember you from brighter days. I know your memory will be criticized by some, tarnished by others, cherished by your family.
Kendall Ware was not known to everyone as a thug or a murder. I remember him as a kid in school who was funny, smart and the target of a lot of fights. I do not say any of this to excuse the choices he made as a young man. But I feel it is necessary to tell a story from different angles. Some southsiders know Kendall as a good athlete a fighter and a class joker.
All choices that we make have an opportunity for reflection. I choose to reflect on better times, for a boy who had seen better days and a young man that could have used a little more attention.
I am sorry that you lost your life Kendall. I hope that your family will have some peace as they cope with their loss.

"Minister", no one on this page thinks that it is funny for someone to lose their life. The people that post on this article are just tired of the same generation upon generation-produced thug's that come from the same Family Tree's in Youngstown, Ohio. If he was convicted in 1992 of Manslaughter at age 17, then what in the world made him such a great guy? Normal people with a normal upbringing don't murder people at age 17, serve half their adult life behind bars, then come out and get shot and dumped in a river for dead. Normal prople are most likely in bed by 10PM on the weekday getting ready to get up the next day to yet again go out and provide for their family. "Minister", answer me this, why was he murdered? Let me guess, it was society's fault because he couldn't be gamefully employed; and that led to a life of crime?

Live by the sword and die by the sword. You reap what you sow. This is what happens in a Godless society. It's too inconvenient for people to live right. Do we not understand why things happen the way they do. It is so simple, but people do not believe it. There is no one to blame but yourself. This is the choice that has to be made. A longlasting saying in Youngstown was "Today's suspect is tomorrow's victim".

To "worried",

I really wasn't thinking about car parts. But I don't think we need to waste our energies on the why's of this criminals death.
Yes, I know, someone is mourning his death, (his family should). The rest of us should be outraged at the society that has been created around government handouts. This is the reason this man is dead, it's not because he was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was born into this life. The other ignorant sheep that are living the same lifestyles are at risk of the same outcome.

NORMAL PEOPLE that go to work everyday are not at risk of these things happening to them except for RANDOM acts of violence.

There was nothing RANDOM about this. This was his destiny.

Destiny?? So let me ask, what is your destiny?? I work Mon-Fri. and I still fear something happening to me or other people just like me that I care about because we have ignorant people in the world that just don't care and do what they do for there own reasons.....I was robbed by gunpoint was that my destiny?? I was doing nothing wrong and I could have been killed if I made one wrong move. Since I live on the south side would that make everybody say sh** like this too just because I don't live in Boarman, Canfield or Austintown??

Where were you when you were robbed? If the people in that neighborhood were conscientious, law abiding Americans looking out for the welfare of their fellow human beings, you would not have been robbed. But, when they are merely looking for WELFARE, they don't care about anyone else.

My destiny? Probably to be shot by a jealous husband.

Kendall's aunt is my best friend, my sister. I knew him and i am close to the family. This is a my family you are speaking of so coldly. To read the things some of you are saying is disgusting. Everyone has their own opinions but think of the family's feelings when you post certain things. He made mistakes but he learned from them and was good to his family in his adult life. What if it was you? Your loved one? No matter what he did he was loved and he learned from his mistakes. Only the higher power can judge. Rather than say some of you are disgusting creatures who i hope will have your day of judgment and have someone be just as cold to you, i will instead pray that you never encounter someone like yourselves that will show you how stupid and cold hearted people can be. Thanks to those of you who expressed condolences even though you may have other opinions of who he was. I know the family would appreciate your kind wishes.

Mistakes, huh?

Voluntary manslaughter is a mistake? I don't care how long ago it was -- that is inexcusable and not a "mistake."

In all honesty, I feel for the family because I'm sure in their eyes they were still able to love the guy. No family deserves to lose someone. The rest of society, I'm not so sure.

But in the same respect, the family of the person who he voluntarily murdered probably didn't deserve it either. And when they find out who pushed the guy in the river, once that person is imprisonated and gets out, is he going to have made just a "mistake," too?

I was going to comment until I read the posts by TheLostPatrol and henryviii1509. Don't need to add anything, they pretty well covered it!

Hope that they saved their posts to a Word file since I am sure both will be applicable again with minimal editing.

First to thankfullyblesse, I am very sorry for your lost and thats why I am on here trying to defend your close family member. I think all of these people are so ignorant and don't take time to think about what in the world they are saying and how it can affect other people.
Second to Henry....I was robbed in my drive way on a cold snowy night. Nobody witnessed anything because it was too cold to be outside. But as soon as everybody found out what happened they were all on the look out for the car that the person was in. But let me tell you everybody on here is saying that he deserved it because of the life he had in his past as a child. He was a child when he made that "mistake" and he didn't deserve that, while I have no record I didn't deserve to get robbed, correct?? But if I had a record then you would say that I deserved it from my past, even if it was when I was a child.

Huh?

worried
You are missing something, in fact you are missing alot.
Nobody is saying that this dude "deserved" anything. What he got was not deserved, it was meant to be. There could have been no other outcome. It was not his fault, it was his destiny.
The things he did, the people he associated with, the area he lived in, the attitude he carried around, the attitude of the people he associated with and the attitudes of those that enabled him caused his untimely exit from this place we know as earth. As will the attitudes mentioned above be the cause of many more men, whose lives are not prosperous or productive, to lose their lives violently. So, with whom does the blame lie? It lies squarely on the shoulders of the people that champion the WELFARE MENTALITY and the idea that the GOVERNMENT OWES you a living. Well, like everything else in life, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. If you don't pay anything,(taxes),you don't get anything. Except a violent death, meted out by one of your own kind. DESTINY

Kudo's to "henryvii1509"; well said. And to further my previous post, please view page 2 of the Local Section in today's Vindy..."Mahoning County Indictments", Look at the fourth name down on the list, does it look familiar? It is a name that has truly been generation-upon-generation of family criminals; a revolving door of them..

You believe what you believe and I will believe what I believe. But just because he doesn't pay taxes and lived on the south side he was destined to a violent death. Whatever.....blam the person who did it. But you never got back on why I was robbed at gun point, I pay taxes, but I guess its because I live on the south side, huh?? Not in Boardman or Austintown...... Once again my thoughts to the family that lost a loved one.

An eye for an eye..............or was it Karma?

Perhaps "worried" became a victim by association. It happened to me. I have a child that chose to take a path other than that of which he was raised. As a result, those that he associated with robbed me blind because they became familiar with what I had by their association with my son. As a result, and as hard as it may be emotionally, I have disassociated myself from my child until such time that he gets his SH#% together. I will not allow him to put me in the situation of becoming a victim once again, as a result of HIS poor choices.

BTW...I lived in an "uppity" neighborhood, I have worked every day of my life since I was 16, my child had the best of the best.....

Get a grip!

Well I have also worked all of my life and I still can't afford to live in an uppity neighborhood. Victim by association, I got robbed by a complete stranger. Perhaps it just bothers me that people judge others because of where they live and their past even if they was a child......god bless and I hope you all know that god doesn't like ugly which most of you are.

Wow. I looked this story up from Atlanta where I have been living for the past few years. A friend of the family told me about this murder. I can't believe how bored and ignorant some of you people still are. Regardless of if you live in Youngstown, Boardman or where ever. Don't look your noses up or down on anyone, because you are still reading the Youngstown Vindy, move or learn how to live together. To the people who have been so cruel and quick to throw a stone, know that sometimes people are wrongfully convicted especially in y-town. If you are so concerned take a look at the case and see what really happened. But since you probably don't have that authority, please break the ignorant chain and "calla te". Some of you seem so angry, and it's probably because you are unhappy and you vent online because your life is so miserable. This will be my only post then I'm moving on with life....have fun dissecting it but I won't be here to argue with you. Have fun talking to yourself.... pretty soon your glass house will break if it hasn’t already. To the most important issue of the article: Rest in peace to all deceased because only God can judge. May God have mercy on your souls.

It is so interesting that the subject "God" always seems pop up when people either go to prison (and finally find him), or when someone gets murdered in the inner city. If its not because they couldn't find a job, or be gamefully employed because of socity's fault; it then becomes all or us having "God", having mercy on OUR souls. Gimme a break.

No one knows the real story. I won't take the time to explain why or how he came to spend a part of his life in prison. Not everyone sitting in jail is guilty, the system is far from perfect. It's no one's place to pass judgment. No matter what is being said on here, he was good to his family and didn't deserve to leave here in such a way. Each person will have their time and i can only wonder what will be said about you and what you or your families will have to endure when others post their thoughts and judgments. Thanks to those of you once again who are able to filter your words and keep respect for the family who may be reading these posts. Your sympathy is appreciated at this difficult time whether you knew him personally or not. Thank you.

I can't help but think of that line from shawshank redemption....." didn't you know? we're all innocent in here...."

I've been flipping through a few of online articles and noticed the cat fight going on with this post. I just had to say something....What is wrong with some of you! Speaking of jobs, do you guys have one, because it seems like all you do is sit and wait for someone to say something so you can give a grim and bitter response. I've been trying to think of a word to describe some of you and it's BITTER! It's funny how the only thing you can get out of the most truthful postings is some stupid excuse to comment. No matter what happened with this person’s personal life and history, it’s irrelevant now. This says a lot about your life, it seems like you don’t have one or it is unfulfilling! Grow up, get a life...or better yet, instead of spending all your time posting on the web where you can do absolutely nothing to change it, take the time you clearly have in your day to fix it!!!! Duhh...volunteer somewhere, start programs, start or volunteer for a non profit! Otherwise you are enabling the very behavior that you stand on your pedestal and look down upon. You are useless in society because all you do is complain. If you don't like your circumstances, change them!!!! Channel that negative energy into positive work! If you have tried before and have failed you have ample opportunity to try again and don’t be a quitter! Don’t just find a reason to complain or comment about the posts! I'm sure you probably "work from home" or something that you'll make up to make yourself feel and look better. Nonetheless, your negative attitude is just another contribution to this city's already negative reputation....MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

Bitter? you're damn right. As long as my tax dollars go to support generation upon generation of welfare receiving, food stamp collecting, non-working, baby producing leeches I have the right to be bitter.
When these folks get off of their collective asses and begin to try to help themselves, I might go volunteer some of my precious free time to help out. Until then, I am satisfied if they kill each other off. I don't mourn them or feel sorry, I am glad that there is one less.
And as a matter of fact, I work my ass off at a real job. I get up at 4 am to drive to Cleveland to work and don't get home until 7 pm. That is 15 hrs every day dedicated to WORK, which seems to be a 4 letter word to the people that I am supporting through entitlement programs.

OMG here we go again, another "Urban Pioneer" has risen from the demolition projects of the inner city to tell ALL of us that we are bad people, to "get a life", and the one favorite of mine, always, "channel that energy towards community work". Excuse me, "had to say something", but I am certain that all of us that posted on this article are deeply saddened by a person losing their life at such a young age. What upsets me is the excuses; I am tired of the excuses every time something like this occurs. This tragedy was caused by using "bad judgement"; period.

You still have no excuse for why you don't even try to help out people who are trying to make something of themselves already; I never said you had to stay in the urban community that you seem to despise so much. That's the problem with negativity, you can ever see out of the box. By the way, you have no idea where I am from, where I went to school and why I promote positivism. So don't assume I am an "urban pioneer", because I am actually not one. I'm glad that you can admit that you have a problem. Being bitter has restricted your growth in your own life. If you pay attention and actually read more than This article on the Vindy, you would know that it's very unlikely that you can work for someone else all of your life and expect to be wealthy. Working the same dead end job will do nothing but keep you in the same state you are in. Perhaps you should pursue some higher education so you can get a better career and also learn about the different tax breaks and investments that wealthy people actually thrive upon. True you WORK as do I, but you work for someone that is only profiting from you and your profit from them is minimal in comparison. It's clear that you know the people that you work for don't mourn or feel sorry for you having to drive to work in Cleveland and spend 15 hours a day at work because you haven't invested in the proper tools that promote the same type of advancement they have, so I guess everyone has a superior huh. Until you reach their level, they don't care if you walk to Cleveland, fight each other like cat and dog, or keep finding the same dead end jobs because to them it's only one less.....funny life cycle we have huh....
I'm glad there is some sense of sadness from this loss of life. But you still are making excuses, because you said you are tired of something but still have yet to say what you are doing to contribute to fixing it. Go big, run for a political position that can actually change it, push to get welfare cut off, whatever you can do to change it or do nothing and continue to pay.....

WOW! I've been reading the posts and my heart is broken that you will say things about my family member that u don't even know. He wasn't on welfare we're talking about his death here people wake up.

Yeah? Well your spelling and typing abilities are pitiful.

Sympathy for a murder, I don't think so. Look I grew up on the south side Marion ave. between Hillman and Oak hill and I graduated from South High in 1977, I worked hard got out of there and made something of my self. So I don't want to hear he didn't have any opportunities. you make your own opportunities. God will judge him we don't have to. Remember that four letter word, "WORK" it will set you free, it will break the chains of poverty.

- - - "WORK" it will set you free - - -

Work is the curse of the drinking and druggie class. Their standard for freedom is not sobriety.

LAST POST on this from me.

If everybody in Mahoning County that is receiving any type of public assistance would donate 6 hours of their time, per day, towards the public good, we would be able to generate some real changes in this area. But, like we all know, these people are only interested in taking from society, not giving anything in return. Therefore I feel no remorse for my previous posts, I stand by what I have said.

It's crazy that some of you say what Kendal or others that have lost their lives to violence deserved. But then you say, I'm not judging them. They should have gotten a job, they shouldn't have been on welfare, they don't won't to work, they hung around with the wrong crowd, they lived in a bad neighborhood. But let me ask you a question...do you lie, do you cheat on your wife(adultery) or have sex outside of marriage(fornication), do you take a pin or anything from your job and thinks it's not a big deal(stealing). The bible says that "he who is without sin, cast the 1st stone". (Yes i can bring up God) Best believe that the same God that judges them will judge you... Probably one of the greatest things that God commanded us to do is to "Love thy neighbor as thyself". So I will take it that if you who take joy or make light of someone...anyones death, you must not love yourselves that much. Someone mentioned karma....I don't believe in karma, but I do believe that the very things that we make light of can eventually happen to us. Always....Always....Always....put yourself in someone elses shoes and I guarentee, that you will think twice before you say "they deserved it". Of course..this is to the people that have the capability and or the desire to have a heart. "By the grace of God there go I". U BETTER THINK!!!!

Sorry minister but I am not buying that Murder is not the same as taking a Pen from work. There is no good reason for the violence in Youngstown. If the good people of Youngstown got up went to work, went to church, or did something other than sit around and thinking of ways to get over on others maybe life would be better in Youngstown.

Maybe minister if you went out to the street corners of the south side and did your preaching there you might save a thug for the ultimate fate.

Youngstown is a death trap for everyone

Here we go again "Minister", when all else fails, mention "God". Did anyone else read today's Vindy article on his Tribute; he left a combined seven children/step-children !

There are some broad based statements being made on this particular story. This man lost his life by someone else's hand. Circumstances may have contributed to that, but some of the general factless comments are out of line. Kendal had people who cared about him regardless. It is easy for people who did not know him personally to attack where he lived, what he did and how he died. I knew Kendal through school, I grew up with him, we were friends. We went to the same schools, played in the same neighborhood and walked the same streets. I have been fortunate to be spared some of the harshness that Youngstown has to offer. I was raised by a single mom who at one time recieved welfare and have done just fine, never arrested never shot at or have I shot at anyone. I will not condemn Kendal for what happened to him or for choices that he made. He served his time. It's funny that some people have said "go to work get a job" in a place like Youngstown when the unemployment rate is higher than the national average. It is difficult for people with a pristine record to find work there. Yet the solution to all the problems in Youngstown is get a job. Where is this same ferver when the stories of mafia activity becomes front page news? Why do we criticize the mayor for the current state of Youngstown, when the murder rate has been much higher under previous administrations? Why is the Southside the dumping ground for social conditions that plague other cities and towns suffering the same ills? Some of you act as if the people of Youngstown enjoy living in the midst of all this violence, they don't. There is an attitude of if I avoid certain areas or never go into certain neighborhoods then I will never be a victim. You are wrong, it could happen to you and your loved ones just as it happens to others. It's good that we have freedom of speech and press in this country, but it is bad that everyone has the right to use it, because some of these opinions are horrible.

That's funny that you would say that Chief 178, because I was a policeman in youngstown for 9yrs before moving out of town. My very first call of my police career was in 1992..a homicide that kendal was supposibly involved in. I'm not going to speak on if I think he was guilty or not, although I have my own thoughts. So believe me, I'm not like you...a person who sits back and talks about something that he's never witnessed or experienced. But let me ask you a question, what have you done for your fellow man lately, besides sit behind your computor desk and declare what is wrong with outside world. The one thing that I have a learned is to never judge...unless you want someone to judge you. You, in your secure world, never have to worry about anything bad happening to you because you don't put yourself in situations but I bet that your the one that sticks their middle finger up to soemone that cuts you off in traffic..that could be considered putting yourself in a bad situation if the person reacts negatively and follows you home or where ever your going. That may sound stupid to you, but understand that's how easy it is to lose your life...even in the suberbs. Everyone in youngstown is not lazy and on welfare, just like not everyone in Boardman or austintown goes to work everyday or is an upstanding citizen. I would never condone the sensless murders in youngstown, but i also do not condone someone saying that someone deserves to die because of where they live....Understand that you are only a pink slip away from the hood yourself!!!

The culture of Youngstown thrives because of the masses available who have unlimited idle time. Perhaps creating jobs should be priority one in Youngstown.

JAY HAS A PLAN
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Minister, unlike you I severed my contry for 24 years in the US Navy and I did something for the Youngstown community and all of america, the street I lived on had three murders living on it, so my brother you don't know me. I said God will judge Kendal not me, rest his soul, he's at peace. The pont I was making there is not an excuse for any of the violance in Y-town, hard work, fath in God will keep young men and women out of the thing the streets give out.

I love how people say "he was good to his family" no sh*t he should be! Or "he took care of his kids" really? Isn't that what you're supposed to do? "He worked" Wow! So do I! I love how people like this "victim" once they're gone they turn into a family man, church boy saint that was at the wrong place at the wrong time. The family also wants to give teh "victim" credit for doing things that you should do anyway! Wow he was good to his family, you don't say??? The people you surround yourself with, the activities you partake in, the type of "work" you do, selling drugs is not one of them! Will detremine your way of life. His was obviously determined!

Chief, your right...I don't know you and you didn't know Kendal...so the same way that you say that I shouldn't speak on you is the same way that you shouldn't speak on him. The one thing about "service" wether it's in the armed forces..police dept, church, etc is that it never stops. Any time that we put a end to our "service"...then why were we truely serving in the 1st place. Some people look at the glass half empty, I look at it half full. Some people look at others and see all the bad in them, I look at others and see the good...know matter how little. So I say....No, I didn't think Kendal deserved to die that way, no matter what. All I ask that we not make light of others...wether in life or death. Picture how your family would feel if someone was making fun or your demise...be it by bullet, car accident, suicide, etc. Your are still someone's husband, son, brother, father, friend. I know your comment to this may be, well if you die, it won't be because of selling drugs or doing anything illegal...but the bottom line is your still dead. And someone can always find something negative to say. May God Bless you all!!!

Minister, you made the statement in your next to last statement, and I quote, "Understand that you are only a pink slip away from the hood yourself!!!" No, if I was not retired and I got a pink slip it would not automatically put me in the hood. Turning to a life of crime or moving on in life would be my choice and I know what my choice would be! Probably not the popular choice of the people we are discussing!

I wonder will my brother killer or killers will get caught.

I wish the family well during this time. Hopefully we can get Idora Park running again so Aeparish and henryviii will have some way to occupy themselves instead of puking fearful trash all over this site.

I occupy myself just fine by working and going to school full time so that I can continue being a productive member of society. This way, I can buy my own groceries instead of having someone else's tax dollars pay for them. :)

ZING!!!!!!!! Nice one aeparish!

Thanks!

To my baby I love u n miss u sorry a week late on ur bday wishes and to all the people who talked sh** go t h**l or sons getting big thanks forlooking down on us love u