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Biden assails GOP at Youngstown rally



Published: Fri, September 19, 2008 @ 12:00 a.m.
  Biden's downtown rally

By SHELBY SCHROEDER

The candidate called the GOP ticket ‘profoundly out of touch.’

YOUNGSTOWN — Sen. Joe Biden called on Valley voters to end American anxiety by putting Barack Obama in the White House in November.

Mayor Jay Williams introduced the Democratic vice presidential nominee to a downtown crowd of about 1,200 Thursday evening at 20 Federal Place (the former Phar-Mor building). The mayor warmed up the crowd for Biden’s appearance by questioning the qualifications of Biden’s Republican opponent, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Making light of Palin’s mayoral duties in the small Alaskan town of Wasilla, Williams said its entire population could fit into Youngstown’s Chevy Centre, and certainly hasn’t prepared Palin for the job of vice president.

“We need someone with real world experience who is ready to lead at a moment’s notice,” said Williams, who also touted the Biden crime bill as an example of the senator’s acknowledgment of city police shortages.

Speaking from a stage full of union workers, firefighters and educators, Biden first excused his 20-minute tardiness then jumped immediately into criticism of the Bush administration.

“Eight years ago a candidate said he was going to be different. He said he’d bring back honor and integrity to the White House. You all saw how that story ended,” Biden said.

“The wealthy and powerful have a seat at the table [while] the rest of us are on the menu,” he added.

Biden went on to outline his and Obama’s agenda for America in the next four years, beginning with the current housing crisis.

He called for a reduction in home foreclosures and the reinstatement of power by states’ attorneys generals to sue fraudulent lending institutions.

On the issue of a waning American work force, Biden said he and Obama would help create 5 million jobs by retooling the auto industry and putting $15 billion a year into renewable energy production.

One way to fund these projects, Biden said, is “by not providing tax cuts for the wealthiest companies in the world.”

He also proposed investing more into the middle class by giving Americans the same health-care plan as congressional members get, and by making college affordable through tax credits.

He contrasted the Democrats’ value of working Americans to McCain-Palin policies that he said prove the Republicans to be “profoundly out of touch.”

“They don’t understand the problems of Youngstown,” he argued.

Biden’s speech did not exclude an issue that comes a close second to the economy for Ohio voters: the war in Iraq.

He criticized Republican support of the costly rebuilding effort overseas, blaming Bush and McCain for helping nourish Iraq’s $80 billion surplus.

“We will end this war,” he said. “We will end it honorably, but we will end it.”

He told the crowd that Obama offered a “stark” difference in merit and ethics that could change politics in America.

“This country deserves more than a brave soldier,” he said of Mccain. “It needs a wise leader.”

In response to a speech Biden gave in Akron earlier Thursday, McCain-Palin spokesman Ben Porritt called Biden and Obama “earmark addicts.”

“The Obama-Biden plan is a failed and backward economic scheme that will kill jobs and further hinder our economy,” Porritt said.

But at the rally in downtown Youngstown, Biden pointed to the country’s plunge into the enormous deficit created during the Bush administration. He warned that after eight years of a Republican president, the country should know what to expect.

“We’ve seen this movie before,” Biden said, adding a warning against continued GOP rule, “And everyone knows the sequel is worse than the original.”

sschroeder@vindy.com


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1retireduaw(6 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

I am a retiree from Lordstown and I appreciate that this country needs a strong industrial base to provide good jobs to the middle class. As a union member I do support Obama and Biden because I do not want my grand children to have to compete with workers in China or India to see who can come in at the lowest wages/

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2Nov1969(6 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

"Bring the war on terror to a end, if all the radical Muslims are dead we will."

Not possible. The war is unrealistic if that is the goal. I think i will be voting for OBAMA/BIDEN

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3palmerlake(7 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

I find it ironic that Williams would question the credentials of a governor. Especially considering that he heads one of the ten fastest dying cities in America according to Forbes. And Williams didn’t inherent all the problems that Youngstown has from Republicans, he got them from decades of Democrat and union control and corruption.

Unfortunately for Youngstown, Obama and Biden will pull the wool over your eyes once again and you will be convinced to vote Democrat once again because this time things will be different. The Citizens of Youngstown will forget about the promised Pentagon payroll center that Bill Clinton promised would bring 7,000 jobs to the Valley. They will forget the years of Democrat corruption in Mahoning County from politicians like Dann, Philomena and Traficant.

Biden said that McCain and Palin “…don’t understand the problems of Youngstown.” Really? The “problems” of Youngstown is maintaining the status quo. The Democrats have failed Youngstown and the Mahoning Valley again and again. Too bad the people have their heads stuck in the sand and think that the Democrats will bring back jobs, that the steel industry’s return is right around the corner, and Youngstown will become a vibrant city once again by using the same policies that the Democrats have been using for the last half century.

Do I think that Republicans are perfect? Is McCain going to be perfect for America? Assuredly not, but after seeing what Democrats and union hacks have done to the Valley in the last 6 decades, maybe the people of the Valley should wake up and give someone else a shot.

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4babs68(58 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Andersonathan...the radical muslims have not been the ones that has caused this country to be ripped to shreds its been the all might greed of the MAN. I am sorry I don't agree that we should be funding a bill while that country keeps there monies. They should be funding there own now that they are up and on there feet. Besides this has never been a war about Muslims. This also has been a war about greed for oil. To think that we hide behind the flag of democracy...yea...Why don't we rip into China like that. I mean after all they have been a dicatorship for forever...Oh that's right we must keep using there unhuminitary labor that will continue funding the MAN's greed. While he continues to keep charging us the increse in price for his goods...
In regards to Williams we can't blame him for all of the corruption that Youngstown has had to occur. There is no political party out there that will change the plight of Youngstown until the Mahoning Valley people start taking control over there Valley.
Although I am a Republican by their standards I beleive that we are in need of change. I am sorry I cannot vote for a has been or a she/she who will never be.
OB/08.

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5palmerlake(7 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

babs68,

you say, "also has been a war about greed for oil." Where is your proof of this?

Other than conjecture and speculation, there is nothing to back up your claim. Do you really think that Bush would enter into a war, let his approval ratings slip to about 30% and likely ensure that he will go down in history as one of the least liked presidents just so his buddies could make some money?

As for you bringing up greed, can I ask you a couple questions? Have you or your family members ever turned down a raise? If not, does that make you greedy because you wanted more than you already have? I am sure that there are people in this world who make less than you and your family does, did you give your raise to those who need it more than you do? If not, doesn't that make you greedy?

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6ytownoptimist(86 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Kudos to Mayor Williams - a fabulous, succinct speech. Biden hit the nail on the head with all of his points. Let's keep to the issues that truly affect our lives and to the heads of the ticket. Can't wait for the debates!

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7cambridge(2918 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

palmerlake

You want proof that Iraq was a war for oil? When oil deposits were discovered in Iraq it was American oil companies that helped build the infrastructure, refineries and pipelines to get their oil industry up and running.

These American oil companies were partners with Iraq and shared in their revenue. Once Iraq had a grip on running their own oil industry Saddam nationalized the oil industry and kicked the American oil companies out and kept all the profits for Iraq.

The American oil companies were understandably pissed off. After all it's American oil company oil, right? They have wanted to get control of that oil ever since.

Enter DUBYA. Just the puppet the oil companies needed. So we went to war behind a pack of lies and set up a puppet government. About three months ago American oil companies were given no bid contracts by the Iraq government to partner with Iraq in their oil industry.

I hope this helps you understand the "WAR for OIL".

No oil company left behind.

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8Crowe(20 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Take a look at some of the things Biden and Williams said...

Biden says he and Obama will "retool" the auto industry and says that this will be funded by "not giving tax cuts to the wealthiest companies in the world." I wonder if he means to nationalize the auto industry? The government doesn't re-tool Lordstown, General Motors does. If the government were to re-tool GM Lordstown, wouldn't that be a massive government hand-out to big business? I thought Biden was opposed to the government giving hand-outs to big business?

Tax cuts aren't absolutely necessary for GM to retool Lordstown, but GM can't retool if it doesn't have money. Tax cuts would allow GM to keep more of the money it earns by selling cars.

On the mortgage crisis, McCain warned of the failure of Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae and the mortgage issue back in 2005 and made suggestions on how to fix it. His advice was ignored. Those two failed. A lot of the current disaster could have been avoided if his advice has been taken. Obama made the CEO of Freddie Mac the head of his VP selection team.

Williams must have forgotten that Palin hasn't been mayor of Wasilla for a few years since she's been governor of a state lately. And she defeated two very powerful politicians to get there. And she has successfully fought corruption, government waste, and poor management in the state government as governor. She's more experienced than Obama to be President.

And it's ironic that Biden is complaining about the enormous deficit. The deficit is caused by earmarks and porkbarrel spending. Obama and Biden are two very fat cats when it comes to requesting earmarks, while Palin stopped requesting them altogether and McCain never requests earmarks. So McCain/Palin is better for the deficit than Obama/Biden.

And the war? ... McCain had advocated from very early on that we needed more troops on the ground in Iraq. From very early on he argued for the strategy that eventually brought success in Iraq -- the "surge" strategy which Obama opposed and continues to oppose even after its raging success. We would have secured the peace and brought the troops home a while ago if they had followed McCain's advice four years ago.

And on energy, when President Bush proposed a massive tax cut for oil companies John McCain voted against it, while Barack Obama voted FOR it. Yes, Obama supported a tax cut for oil companies which McCain opposed. Now Obama is opposed to new oil drilling, while McCain supports an "all of the above" approach to energy -- wind, solar, power, natural gas, clean coal, as well as new oil prospecting. Which one makes more sense for an economy like Youngstown's that relies on the auto industry?

Seems like Biden is the one who doesn't understand the problems Youngstown faces.

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9Crowe(20 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Hey cambridge... How's your $3.79 gas? Some war for oil...

Your post is off-topic, but I'll bite.

The profits from Iraqi oil are going to the Iraqi government and the Iraqi people. Our companies are providing the infrastructure because, obviously, they are the kind of companies that build and service such infrastructure. No companies in Iraq do that sort of thing, so our companies did so since they're the best at it.

Think of it this way: the reason the Iranians haven't had a nuclear bomb yet is because they lacked the technology, materials, and know-how to build one. Enter the Russians. The Russians have all three and so have been assisting the Iranians in building their own nuclear capability. The Iraqis didn't have the technology or equipment or know-how to set up a modern oil industry so companies that do have those things came in and set it all up -- and yes, they were American companies (unless you're opposed to Americans being employed and you think those jobs should have been outsourced overseas).

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10palmerlake(7 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Cambridge:

You say "You want proof that Iraq was a war for oil? When oil deposits were discovered in Iraq it was American oil companies that helped build the infrastructure, refineries and pipelines to get their oil industry up and running."

Like I said, nothing but speculation and conjecture. I want proof. Show me a position paper from the Bush White House saying that the war was for oil. How about interview with administration officials saying the reason for the war was for oil. Prove to me that Bush is a puppet. Don't just give me your opinion, I want proof of your accusations.

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11JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

According to their platform the retooling of the auto industry comes from encouraging manufacturers produce cars with higher MPGs as a standard - unlike now where they are a boutique option on a relative few models - from the executive branch through federal entities through the state level, etc. (At least, I think. Based on the article this point wasn't made clear.)

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12DNRtheDNC(2 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

B. Hussein Obama preaches reaching across the aisle, McCain actually does it. As for Grandpa Joe, if Bush had been saying the moronic things he has in the past few weeks the media would be having a field day.

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13cambridge(2918 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Hi, palmerlake

You are correct, I don't have any documents in my possession to prove we went to war for oil. But I am paying attention and I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

Other than the physical proof that Bush works for the oil companies what I said about Iraq and US involvement in the oil industries is correct.

I guess going to war in Iraq could be because they were involved in 9-11, had weapons of mass destruction, and a nuclear weapons program and were an imminent threat to the United States. I chose not to believe that but it's a free country so go right ahead.

Time for a change.

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14cambridge(2918 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

The current bailouts/takeover of lending institutions and AIG is about as socialist as you can get. When Republicans run the country corruption runs rampant.

The Republicans had their eight years and their record speaks for it self. Time for a change.

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15goodcitizen(2 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Is this forum moderated?

Then why is this newspaper helping white supremacists like EqualityisaLie spread his manifesto by using this newspaper to spread his organization's telephone number?

EqualityisaLie's post has no relevance to the article in question. By allowing his post to be publicized, the Youngstown Vindicator is not furthering discourse on the topic at hand but is only serving to spread this white supremacist's ideology. I do not consider this objective journalism.

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16goodcitizen(2 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

It is a fallacy and lie the Republican Party is spreading that Obama will raise your taxes.

See comparisons of the two candidates’ tax proposals at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...

Obama will cut your taxes if you make less than $ 226,981 per year. Obama will not raise your taxes if you make under $603,402 per year. Obama will only raise your taxes if your family income is more than $603,403 a year. So if you make less than $226,981 per year, Obama will cut your taxes.

If you make less than $111,645 a year, Obama will CUT your taxes by between 1.8 % and 5.5% while McCain will cut your taxes by between 0.2% (which is hardly anything) to 1.4% only.

SO IF YOU MAKE LESS $111,646 PER YEAR, YOU WILL DEFINITELY GET MORE TAX CUT FROM OBAMA THAN MCCAIN.

McCain will give the biggest tax cuts to those making more than $2.8 MILLION a year, more than 1.4% more than those making more than $160, 983 a year, and 4% more than tax cuts for those making $111,645 or less. Why should those making more than 2.8 million a year get so much more of a tax cut than those making less than $111,645 a year. So if you make more than $111,646 per year and nothing matters to you more than your taxes, then and only then should you vote for McCain.

CHECK THE FACTS OUT BEFORE YOU SHORT CHANGE YOURSELF, FOLKS!

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17Tomcat(202 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Read all about Mr. Obama and his terrorist buddies in the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.emailthis.clickability.com...

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18OhioPerson(76 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Tomcat you're still wringing your hands over that story?? Is that all you can come up with? I know I'm repeating myself but you drive me to it:

The Facts on Barack and William Ayers:

* William Ayers was involved with the Weather Underground when Barack Obama was eight years old, and Barack has roundly condemned their actions.
* On Fox News, Kurtz tried to radicalize an education reform program in Chicago called the Annenberg Challenge. The Challenge was funded by Republican Walter Annenberg, introduced by Mayor Daley and Republican Governor Jim Edgar, and one of its initiatives was even praised by John McCain.
* Kurtz claimed on Fox News that William Ayers recruited Obama to the Annenberg Challenge -- a flat out lie. Ayers did not serve on the board of the Challenge, and he had nothing to do with Barack's recruitment.

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19michaelat(9 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

I think oil was part of the reason we picked Iraq as our middle east country to "democratize"...but I think that the administration decided to take advantage of the 9/11 moment and get a foothold in a middle eastern country. If all went well, Iraq would be perfect. Because of its oil reserves, it could be very strong economically, which would automatically help a democracy stay afloat. Their dictator was brutal and hated, so the citizens would support the US, Iraq has a history of education and culture which would get quickly up to speed in the modern world. A democracy and economic strength in Iraq would help spread democracy--and by extension the power and influence of the US--throughout the region. And there would be a natural connection to the US via oil.

Oops. Except that Sunnis, Shia & Kurds don't like each other and have religious and political differences. Except many religious leaders don't want democracy, they want Islamic rule. Except Osama couldn't have been made happier than to show pictures of Americans fighting Islamic people in Iraq to budding terrorists. Except the corruption in Iraq is rampant. Except they didn't actually have WMD, so boy did we look dumb. Except we disbanded their military and let them run off with weapons to reform as insurgents. Except countries like Iran want nothing better than to support their own factions in Iraq and control the country. Except we destroyed the infrastructure and the country was horribly looted.

Well, as my mom used to say, the road to hell is paved with "good" intentions.

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