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Published: Tue, September 16, 2008 @ 5:54 a.m.

The 2008 presidential election will come down to the voting decisions of undecided citizens across America – especially in about 10 up-for-grabs states.

Ohio is one of those states. Here, 13 percent of the population is identified as an undecided, so says a recent poll.

The Vindicator wants to report on how an undecided voter makes up their mind during this historic election.

“Informed, Undecided” is a special Vindicator project in October that will follow several local undecided voters as they navigate through the mass of information and influences to come to a voting decision in the Nov. 4 presidential election.

The Vindicator is looking for diverse citizens from the valley who are still, at this point, undecided about whom to vote for in the 2008 presidential election.

Each week in October, The Vindicator will meet with the “Informed, Undecided” group for an informal chat about what each has learned in the preceding week about each candidate. We will ask them to keep diaries of sorts, tracking how the campaign crossed their lives – commercials, articles, work conversations, etc.

If you are confirmed as an undecided voter, and you want to share your insights over the final month of this election, please email Vindicator Editor Todd Franko at tfranko@vindy.com.


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1valleyred(1022 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

A Rasmussen Reports poll from yesterday shows McCain up 7 points here. Locally I would not be surprised to see McCain come within 4-6 points of Obama, something that many would call unheard of.

Youngstown is a top 5 media market for McCain and is an area where Hillary's voters are not happy with Obama.

MCCAIN PALIN 08

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2faithntruth(1 comment)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

As a devout Christian voter tired of the extreme Christian right pretending to speak for me, I am extremely disturbed by McCain/Palin (or should I say McCain/Ann Coulter). The extremely conservative views of Ms. Palin will not serve our country well (including teaching religion in public schools via intelligent design for God's sake?! C'mon who's going to teach what the curriculum, Rev. Phelps?!). Also, the fact that the extreme right is ecstatic at Palin suggests to me that the economy is going to be put on the back seat in favor or the latest social issue that social conservatives believe in.

It is time to heal this world, to help those in need, and narrow the gap between rich and poor. It is time to wake up and accept that we need to work together once and for all. While I do not think abortion is right, I also do not think that that is the worst problem plaguing our country. I think helping the poor (instead of more tax breaks for the rich), not risking the retirement of our seniors by privatizing social security, helping the environment, and ensuring we have insurance for all is extremely important. This is the true embodiment of Christian love.

God forbid something happens to McCain and she's our president?! She's so polarizing! I think Ms. Palin’s views on intelligent design, praying the gay away, funding of private Christian schools over public schools, and the like to see how she is very similar to Ann Coulter ideologically. McCain clearly showed poor decision-making in picking her--being pressured by the extreme right-wing. What we end up with is worse than even Bush/Cheney--we end up with a McCain/Coulter!

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3city_dweller(186 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Faithntruth, you are a much-needed reminder that Christians do not all speak through the voice of Lou Dobbs, Ann Couler, and especially Sarah Palin.

The issues that are truly affecting people's lives are not those that many on the right like to use as heated wedge issues. That tactic worked in 2004, but I think this time around people are a little more in need of real help on problems that actually affect their lives and livelihoods.

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4DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Faith in Fruit:
First of all it would be virtually impossible to legislate the teaching of religion in public schools. That subject is in the past, it will not happen again. The ACLU and others have too strong of a case against it.

Secondly, and this is aimed at many others as well, the economy is cyclical. It has been since the 1930's after the depression. That is the way a capitalistic market works. Things are great then they go south and then, through hard work, ingenuity, and non-government interference, thigs get good again. There are wonderful places in europe where the income tax is only a flat 60% and even better places like china where you can sign a life-time contract to be a trash man. In these places you don't get to sit at your computer and write stupid messages (like mine) and state your opinion. You don't have a computer because they are so expensive only the top tier class can have them.

Here's a great quote: "It is time to heal this world, to help those in need, and narrow the gap between rich and poor"

Don't worry fair Faith in Fruit, when Obama gets in he will be leading the direct transformation into a socialst country. He has already said he will raise taxes, but not on the middle class though right? Without getting into how our economy and tax structure works, you are just what the politicians are looking for if you believe anything they say, and anything he says about not raising taxes on the middle class. He will put a strangle hold on our economy that will not survive the cyclical nature of capitalism. So in other words I hope your family comes form the upper crust, or else you and I can share a seat together on the bus when we are riding to the bread line everyday.

Also, you don't sound at all foolish when you say things that imply McCain's imminent detah in the white house or that Palin is more of a right wing nut than Bush. If only there were 1% of you in the country rather than 99%. I guess that's why things are the way they are.

If you really believe any one of these four people will better america than you keep reaching for the stars. My suggestion is to devote some time and money to the party you belive in, you may as well complete your transformation into a full blown moron.

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5dmets(575 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

I am sick of this already. I think it is sad the chioces both parties gave for us to vote on. There has to better choices to running for president in both parties. I am left with choosing the lesser of two evils. So i weigh everything. I am for Obama/Biden. I think they have a much better platform. Also I do not like or agree with Palin. I also think she needs to focus on her family and new baby, rather then trying to help run the country. I am all for women have power or a career while being a mom but she is bitten off way more then she can chew.

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6CAWren(4 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Palin Is Unknown
Unless she opens up to the press and public I do not see how we can consider someone that we know less about then the bag boy at our local grocery store? This is a situation that could place her in the position as commander in chief of the United States Of America. During the primaries the media kept asking if America was ready for a woman president. Well after raking Hillary over the coals for months and months the answer was by the millions yes. Like all the candidates she ran the gauntlet, faced the public and the press and by the end of the primaries we knew most everything about all of them.
we know very little about Sarah Palin!
How can this even be considered!
Charley Gibson has been granted an interview with strict guidelines… A Barbra Walters like interview. It has been said that he must first submit his questions to the McCain / Palin camp before he asks them.

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7dmets(575 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

All I know is that the republican are all about the rich getting richer, the MIDDLE class become poor, and the poor getting even more poor. They want to cut out the middle class all togther. They have always been for the rich. So i think most of the people in Ohio would be for the middle class which Obama is, cause he has been there.

As for the Palin interview with Gibson. Go figure, they don't want a curve ball throw that will show Sarah's true colors and lack of experience!

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8GTX66(280 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

If you want to live in a Socialistic Nation then by all means vote for Obama. But people in this valley will vote for anyone with a -D after their name. Just remember all of the empty promises that Clinton & Kerry left here.

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9dmets(575 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Clinton did more for the USA then either Bush or regan ever did! I'm not into voting for someone just cause they have a D after their name. I vote based on their platfrom and views. You are crazy if you think we will become a socalistic nation, actually it is called a Socialist Nation if Obama is president. A NAZI nation? Give me a break, what proof do you have to support this idea? We do know that the US will be just as bad if mot worse with McCain. He is a Bush man, an oil man, and a rich get richer man!

I'm goin out on limb here but guessing those who back McCain on here, either think they have money, do have money, or are afraid of Obama going into power.

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10MillCreeked(24 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Faithntruth is correct and I applaud sentiments that speak to individuals looking to their own lives and values and being honest in making a decision for this election rather than voting down party lines. The candidates have very different outlooks about today and plans for the future.

Today a figure no lesser than Alan Greenspan said that McCain's tax cuts - the hallmark of his plan to fix the economy - will absolutely not work. That is serious - we're hurting, especially here in Ohio. Obama's domestic policy is strong, smart and will help families like ours here in Youngstown. This is what really matters most.

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11andersonathan(474 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

No one is going to save the valley, no one is just going to give you some thing if you want change write your mayor, city council, governor, petition your congressmen.

Well everyone will vote the way they want to and they should some won't make up their mind until they step in the booth, others will look at the [d] or [r] and push the button. others will choose out of race, sex, age.

As far as Sarah Palin's views what is wrong with christian conservative values? Sure she chose to have a downs baby knowing it would be hard, daughter pregnant it happens should have swallowed. At least She does not hold the same views of abortion that Obama does so IF your a faith based voter She is your pic.

Socialist values, far left liberal, high taxes, big spenders on pork things. To come up with health care we all people will be paying over 25% in taxes, Bill said it Hilary said it everyone has said it. And to be honest a break even number is over 30%. So I am not willing to pay 30 cents on the dollar to support it or to have it.

The bridge to no-ware was introduced not by Palin but by Alaska Congressmen, she was asked for her support she gave it. Decided then it was not worth it. Obama and Biden voted for it in the senate in fact both are rated no. 1 and 6 in spending McCain is rated around 100.

Wow Palin just happen to be city council, mayor and a governor? So try writing to your community organizer that can vote present 130 plus times in stead of making a decision?

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12dmets(575 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

You speak of faith based voters. My religon does not believe in abortion. But I can not vote based on that one issue. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, which I would never do, then she is the one who stands before God to face that decision. We should not judge people on the prochoice/prolife standence. Why should someone not have the choice to abort if they were raped, or in a case of incest?

Palin backed the bridge to nowhere until congress decided against supporting it. Then they put in the road to nowhere instead.

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13TB(995 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

not to mention her ties to a movement to have her state secede from the United States. What a patriot!
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/l...

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14andersonathan(474 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Palin was asked to back it by her congressmen and she did Obama and biden both voted for it, congress gave Alaska the money but did not make it mandatory to build the bridge, She changed her mind decided it was not worth building spent a few million on a ferry system and supported other things more worth while. "the road" was it to Juno? I don't know?
As far as faith goes i was raised christian, and unless it is rape, life threatening of term for the mother, i see no reason for abortion. i will not support someone with those liberal ideals. i don't care if Obama left his church and denounced his mentor rev. wright it makes a symbolism of ideas and beliefs from the church to the Obama [his wife to] for the last 20 years. His christian background mentor friend is a racist and evidently it is OK to preach that in that church, maybe some one should ask Opera why she left it?

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15DRDAVE1965(80 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

I HAVE DECIDED TO VOTE FOR:
WRTA.....OTHER THEN THAT....THE CANDIDATES NEED TO SHOW ME SOMETHING

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16OhioPerson(76 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

It doesn't matter who you vote for anyway: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6369

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17andersonathan(474 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

Greenspan OMG if you want to point a few fingers try him and Billy. And what they got started in the 90's Bill sign a bill under advice from Greenspan , few laws post depression that were placed to keep this from happening and everyone jumped and loved it. Of course it passed the Republicans AND DEMOCRATES ran with it. Greenspan immediately lowered the federal interest rate [and they still do] to free up lending and spending, The housing boom came along. Suburban America grew quickly. City's were hurt, The 90's also became the decade of CEO and corporate bonuses,the beginning of a big train wreck that hit a week ago.

Eight more years of Bush, Obama was asked to leave the 96 democrat convention due to lack of credentials his Visa card was rejected that same night seems like he has become a millionaire under Bush? [I just had to say that]

So there is no party or person to blame here just simple American Greed fill your pockets as fast as you can and screw everyone else.

resist,com is a anti Mexican anti Jew and anti black sponsored by the ARIAN nation and is not worth the visit

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18Ralph(12 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

You know, if tommorrow, former PA Gov. Tom Ridge and Colin Powell anounced that they were running for pres/vp (I don't care about the order)they would blow the Republicans and Democrats out of the water. I am a life long Republican, but I will not let my vote be taken for granted. What did gas cost when GWB took office? $1.29, $1.69? I don't know, but it sure wasn't $3.89. I am surprised that Obama does not ask the obvious question, the one that got Ronald Reagan elected: "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" I sure as hell ain't.

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