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Poll participant doubts validity of McCain's lead



Published: Sun, October 12, 2008 @ 12:00 a.m.

By DAVID SKOLNICK

VINDICATOR POLITICS WRITER

YOUNGSTOWN — Bill Morris of Poland doubts the accuracy of a statewide poll that shows Republican John McCain, whom he supports, barely ahead of Democrat Barack Obama — even though he participated in the survey.

The poll shows McCain ahead 48 percent to 46 percent, a statistical dead-heat because of the 3.3 percent margin of error. Morris said Obama, whom he isn’t supporting, will win Ohio.

“I don’t believe [McCain is] ahead,” said Morris, a retired Universal-Rundle Corp. executive. “I believe Ohio is going to vote for Obama. ... Unfortunately, it’s going to be the Democrats’ time this year.”

Morris is among 876 likely voters interviewed by telephone between Oct. 4 and Wednesday for The Ohio Newspaper Poll.

The poll is a partnership between the Ohio News Organization — consisting of the state’s eight largest newspapers, including The Vindicator — and the University of Cincinnati’s Institute for Policy Research.

Morris supports McCain because “I don’t want big government in my pocket. I’m a believer that big government takes away your money. I believe my taxes would go up if Obama is elected.”

Morris also said Obama doesn’t have the experience and is too liberal to be a successful president.

But Obama will win the election, he said, in part, because President Bush “has done a lot of damage and that will help the Democrats.”

Morris said that he disagrees with Bush on the economy and the war in Iraq and that the Republican president should have pushed for a Wall Street bailout sooner.

The latest Ohio Newspaper Poll shows the race between the two major-party candidates is tightening in Ohio, a key battleground state. A poll released Sept. 21 had McCain ahead in Ohio 48 percent to 42 percent.

In that first poll, McCain led Obama in every geographic region of the state, except Northeast Ohio.

Obama’s lead in the region shrunk from 9 percent to 6 percent over McCain.

But the Democrat’s support in northwest Ohio took a dramatic shift in his favor. Obama is leading in northwest Ohio by 12 percentage points. He trailed McCain by 21 percentage points in that region in the previous poll.

“It will be a close race till the end,” said Lisa Antonini, Mahoning County Democratic chairwoman.

Mark Munroe, Mahoning County Republican vice chairman, said he was somewhat surprised by the results, particularly those that show the race tightening in Northeast Ohio, because other polls of Ohio show Obama with a small lead. But Munroe added that he speaks to a number of Valley Democrats who are supporting McCain.

Obama and McCain participated in a televised town hall meeting Tuesday. That had “no impact” on the poll, Antonini said.

“It was a lackluster debate; there were no fireworks to sway people,” she said. “No one scored a knockout.”

Those polled were also asked a number of questions about the economy, including the Wall Street bailout; their concerns about losing their jobs and homes; the financial situation of Social Security; and whether they are economically better or worse off than their parent’s generation.

“Voters seem to trust Democrats more to help revive the economy,” Antonini said. “After eight years of Bush-Cheney, people are looking for change when it comes to their pocketbooks.”

Morris, who is retired, said Social Security’s financial situation “has major problems.”

He’s not alone. Of those polled, 63 percent said the same thing.

“I’m hoping it will be there for my kids,” Morris said.

skolnick@vindy.com


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1PragmaticSubstance(34 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

As evidenced in this story, those Ohioans who say they support Senator McCain say their main concern is that "big government takes away your money" and that their "taxes would go up if Obama is elected."

What's most tiring about this fear is not that it is inaccurate, but that drives the continued election of the Republican politicians so directly responsible for vacuuming out our middle and especially working class pocketbooks. I mean, seriously, the stock market losses of the past few weeks have eaten up more of the personal wealth of we in the middle class than all of the alleged tax savings one could imagine under a McCain administration. And while no one can say with certainty just what exactly caused the financial crisis, no one seriously doubts that a major cause was the very risky investment behavior of certain private entities. Those entities were allowed to grow socially threatening because they were allowed to grow very large, and they were allowed to engage in that risky behavior because they were freed of ANY meaningful federal regulation. That, incidentally, was in some significant measure the doing of one of Senator McCain's chief advisors: Phil Gramm. Until this July Gramm was the McCain campaign's senior economic advisor, but he was removed from official status for his "nation of whiners" comment, and his publicly expressed view that we are living through merely a "mental recession." While it is no longer as likely that Gramm would be McCain's Treasury Secretary (once a sure thing), he still travels with the campaign and likely would hold high place in a McCain White House. Gramm, now a professional lobbyist, is best known for introducing bill, while he was a US Senator, deregulating the US banking industry. He also cosponsored deregulation of "derivative" securities, like the "credit default swaps" that brought down Lehman Brothers.

In other words, the risk to voters' pocketbooks is not tax-and-spend liberals. One of the biggest risks we've ever seen is the unregulated financial sector, and that was given birth by GOP governance. And, incidentally, Obama will not raise middle class taxes--independent fact checkers agree that his claims on that point are true. (See http://www.factcheck.org/elections-20... or http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-c... for example.)



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2DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 5 years, 9 months ago

If I may let me ask you a few questions and feel free to respond.
> Were there only republicans in the senate and house during the times when regulation was proposed and voted against in the banking and housing sectors?
> What is the definition of a recession, technically?
> What happened to the wealth of the middle class during the stock market declines at the end of Clinton's terms spurred by the internet bubble? What happened to that wealth 5 years later? Why has the economy acted in a cyclical nature for the past 80 years?
> What is Obama's stance on the capital gains tax? Do any middle class people pay capital gains tax?
> Are you an independent fact checker? Do these independent fact checkers resemble all-knowing deities?
> Do you really believe for one second that raising the taxes on people earning $250k a year will not have a profound effect on our economy?
> Are you employed, and if so, how much does your boss make per year? Your boss' boss? The owner?

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