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Police seek driver who dragged body at drive-through



Published: Sun, November 30, 2008 @ 12:09 a.m.

The car fled the South Side McDonald’s, and police found the body blocks away.

STAFF REPORT

YOUNGSTOWN — City police are asking for the public’s help in locating a driver who dragged a body under his car through a fast-food drive-through and over two city blocks early Saturday morning.

Capt. Kenneth Centorame, chief of detectives, said police received a 911 call around 1 a.m. Saturday from a person in the drive-through at McDonald’s at South Avenue and Midlothian Boulevard, who told the dispatcher there was a body under the car in front of him.

By the time police arrived, the car had fled, but the body was found in the westbound lane of Midlothian near Euclid Boulevard, two blocks west of the McDonald’s.

Centorame said police went to the McDonald’s and talked to some people who remained there, as well as to an employee, who said the driver had placed an order through the intercom, and as he waited for his food, the person in a car behind his noticed the body underneath the car. When the person went to the driver and informed him, the driver got out of his car, looked underneath, then drove away without paying or getting food.

Centorame said Youngstown police need the public’s help, and he urged residents to get involved for the sake of the victim’s family. A number of people at McDonald’s at the time left while witnesses were interviewed, and police are hoping they’ll come forward and offer details so they can piece together what happened, he said.

They’re looking for a fire-engine red Chevy Cavalier or Cobalt, driven by a white male in his 20s with short brown hair, the captain said.

“It’s urgent that we find that car,” he said. “We really need the public to get involved, if anyone has any information” on the car, the driver, the victim or the crime scene.

Centorame explained that the body suffered quite a bit of damage, so police couldn’t determine initially the full extent of the victim’s injuries. “The pathologist in Cleveland will have to determine that,” he said, adding, “We should know this week” whether any gunshots were involved.

Police did find identification on the body, “but we confirmed it’s not that person, because we found the person whose ID it was. We really need to ID [this victim] for the family,” Centorame said. “We may have that some time in the future from the coroner, and will release the name then.”

“But we need to find who was driving the red car and any witnesses at McDonald’s around 1 or 1:30” Saturday morning, Centorame said. “We really don’t know where the initial crime scene was. So we really need the public to remain vigilant in looking for [the driver].”

He noted that police are treating the death as a homicide but that it could end up being a traffic fatality.

The manager at McDonald’s had nothing further to add on the matter Saturday, saying corporate policy prohibits employees from commenting on such incidents.


Comments

1redvert(2075 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Do you think the first thing to do in a case like that would be to get the license number of the car. Sure I understand that it may be a stolen tag but maybe not. This ain't rocket science!

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2Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

A person would have to be drunk or drugged to not know he was dragging something under the car.

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3smile4207(4 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

On OldManGrumpPosted on November 30 at 2:16 p.m.
To oldmangrup :( Do you realize that, that young man that died has a family that reads this also. Your quick wit is a reflection of your maturity and thoughtlessness. I hope your mother or family never have to see something so demeaning about you.
But then again maybe they have sick humor too. This young man was my friend and neighbor and his mother is my friend. She hasn't seen this and I hope she never does. He is truly loved and missed and we are still in shock. Please think of other from now on before you think your being funny.

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4paulydel(1308 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Instead of telling the driver he was dragging somebody why didn't they get on the cell phone and call the police with a tag number and description of the car and driver instead of all the dumba$$ useless cell phone calls that are going on while driving down the road? People need to start using their common sense and be more helpfull instead of being hurray for me all the time.

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5babs68(58 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

To All,

Unless you were there when all this occurred you wouldn't have any ideas how to respond. First of all it went down so fast that no one had time to remember the DL because they were assuming that maybe the person was still alive...and when it was realized the idiot took off. Drunkedness and all...dumb idiot...now someone has lost a son. So be mindfull before making accusations..

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6dihann(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

The buzz around Utopia was the poor young sole, Andrew Culp was in a fight at Utopia and was pepper sprayed by the Utopia bouncer. If being in a fight & pepper sprayed was not enough, (if this is true) maybe that had something to do with someone running him over or not. But how awful this is! My deepest sympathy goes out to his parents, family and friends. No parent should have to endure this done to they're child!

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7DRDAVE1965(80 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

OLD MAN GRUMP.....YOU ARE AN A$$.....NEITHER OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE WERE FROM YOUNGSTOWN.

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8dmets(575 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

I also heard he was suicidal and layed down in the street. It is all a sad situation. My heart goes out to the young man's family and friends!

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9zieg2003(82 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Everyones saying young man, how old was he? And is the utopia a gay bar?

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10wetzlpretzel8(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

instead of speculating and rehashing maybe we should think about the things to be learned from this tragedy. best of wishes to the family

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11dbm033083(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

I just want to thank everyone for the sorrow for my cousin,I would like everyone to know that Andrew was a really good guy he was 22 years old, He has family that loves him dearly,It was a dragidy what had happend,Nothing will ever bring my cousin back but he will always be loved

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12dmets(575 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Zieg2003: He was 22 years old. Yes I do believe that Utopia is a gay bar. But whether it was a gay bar or a regular bar should not matter, a young man was killed. Once again my heart goes out to Andrew's family!

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13sobeit(98 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

What does Utopia being a gay bar have to do with the price of tea in China? All of our thoughts should be with this young man's family and friends. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard of this story on the radio. No parent should have to lose a child, but absolutely no parent should have to lose a child in such a devastating way. I hope the police are able to get to the bottom of this story and make the necessary arrests so this family can have some peace of mind.

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14a_non_e_mouse(15 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Have they named the driver yet?

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15tinnydrop(16 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

I think the only reason people question whether Utopia is a gay bar or not is because this could also be a hate crime. I feel sorrow for the family and hope that the idiot that left this poor guy under his car is caught and put to justice! I just can't understand how someone could possibly drive off knowing that they had ran over another person. Didn't the person at the drive through see the driver? Didn't the people that approached the man in the car get a discription? I personally would have NEVER got out of the car ...I would have immediately called 911 and most definately got the DL #.

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16PitterPatter(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

I am wondering if the police are looking to utopia for some answers about this. If this guy was indeed maced inside this night club, could this be a possible cause of this accident? I hope the family as well as the police look into this alot deeper. Perhaps the family should look into this night club and persue a wrongful death case against the establishment. As any law enforcement person would know, if you spray mace in a confined area (such as a night club) that mace will not only effect the person it was intended for, but will also cause eye, nose and throat irritation to most of the people in the night club. Was the driver of this vehicle near Andrew when he was maced? Did he perhaps accidently run Andrew over while trying to leave the nightclub with irritated eyes? Did he freak out at the McDonalds drive thru because he seen the body under his vehicle and was perhaps under age & drinking in the establishment? Did he actually think that leaving McDonald's with the body under his car would be better than facing the police for underage drinking and driving? There's alot to think about here. It will be interesting to see where all of this ends up, and what answers we will get within the next few weeks.

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17Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

In our drugged anything goes culture the fallout is devastating. Mankind who is an intricate being has been provided with a manual many years ago to be able to live life to its fullest. That manual is called The Bible. Live by it and life is so much better. Stray from its teaching and your life will be a living hell. It's your choice!

My guess is that Culp was under the influence of drugs and or booze. He probably had collapsed on the roadway in a dark area and was run over by a driver also under the influence of drugs and or booze. How else would he not know that he was dragging a body? There is plenty of blame to go around here that will be addressed by our legal system.

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18h8rproof04(7 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

My thoughts and prayer go out to his family.

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19YTownPride(7 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

The understanding is that he was in Utopia, got into a tiff with someone, was asked to leave and then pulled a screwdriver out on the bouncer. That's why he got maced. After he left Utopia no one knows where he went or where it actually happened. The next time anyone saw him was when he was seen at the McDonalds. It doesn't appear that it happened in the lot either. The police taped off the lot entrances and closed Midlothian to examine the street all night.

I'm sorry, but the driver of the car had to of been under the influence of SOME substance, be it legal or illegal. You don't run over someone and not know it. The thought of a hate crime is sorta null, because they drove through the drive thru. If you're out to hurt someone because of their sexual orientation, you don't stick around after committing a crime.

No matter what, this is a horrible tragedy. My heart goes out to his family and relatives.

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20captainlinger(621 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

maybe the driver wanted to use the carpool lane.

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21RIP_Andrew(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

R.I.P Andrew. We all love you and miss you. No matter what it will never be the same without you. Its hard to loose your best friend. I love you so much Andrew and I hope your happier where your at!!!!

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22aholamio(3 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Maybe he was trying out for Utopia's drag show...

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23clayor(281 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Sounds like the driver of the car had NO idea someone was underneath it. They certainly would not have driven through a drive-thru.Obviously at this point, that person is scared to death. Hopefully the police will treat this as an accident, and not charge the driver with anything, other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The sexual orientation of the victim or driver is totally irrelevant, because it is obvious it was not a hate crime. So, out of respect to the victim and his family, let's just drop the innuendos and let this person rest in peace and get this case solved.

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24captainlinger(621 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

maybe he was drag racing

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25clayor(281 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

Good one, captain!

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26scrooge(563 comments)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

captainlinger you are warped on SO many levels.
Wish I'd have thought of that. LOL

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27aproductoftheYO(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

the fate of Youngstown depends on younstownians faith, parents, their family, politics (those who are there to help the YO positively),teachers (I'm sorry, I know there is a lot on your plate, but you are a positive influence on the young residents of the YO).
Their are many small cities arcoss the states who are in the same situation as the YO is in.
Those who choose to stay, don't give up, but help out.
Those who leave, come back, one day, and help the city we know and love.
don't read this and think i am unrealistic. many thought a african american president would be unrealistic...and look at who america voted for.....

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28jorhomo(1 comment)posted 5 years, 10 months ago

I am visiting this site as an out of town family member of Andrew. From the comments I am reading I am amazed at the mentality of some of the individuals posting them. Andrew was a son, grandson, brother and many other things to many other people, don't degrade his memory or the peace the family seeks just for a laugh. Have the respect you would want if you suffered such tragedy. I hope your comments aren't a true reflection of yourself because if so, when you look in the mirror, I am sure you stand alone.

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