Youngstown News, Cities, suburbs in the Valley give Obama stunning support
- Advertisement -
  • Most Commentedmost commented up
  • Most Emailedmost emailed up
  • Popularmost popular up

Cortland


Residential
3 bedroom, 1 bath
$51000


Cortland


Residential
3 bedroom, 2 bath
$80000


- Advertisement -
 

« News Home

Cities, suburbs in the Valley give Obama stunning support


Published: Tue, November 11, 2008 @ 9:52 a.m.
PRESIDENTIAL VOTEMahoning Valley

Here are the vote percentages for the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates in the Mahoning Valley during the last three elections. An (*) denotes the winner of the presidential races.


By County:
MAHONING RESULTS (click here): 
TRUMBULL RESULTS (click here): 
COLUMBIANA RESULTS (click here): 
 
   
2000 George W. Bush* (R)35.43649.1
Al Gore (D)60.759.946.5
2004 George W. Bush* (R)36.737.952.1
John Kerry (D)62.461.647.3
2008 Barack Obama* (D)61.759.644.8
John McCain (R)35.837.652.6
 

Sources: Vindicator files; Mahoning, Trumbull and Columbiana counties boards of elections.

By David Skolnick

YOUNGSTOWN — Some of the numbers are absolutely startling.

In Youngstown’s 1st Ward, Precinct B, Democrat Barack Obama received 436 votes compared to just 3 for Republican John McCain. Even Ralph Nader, an independent who received less than 1 percent of the vote in Ohio, beat McCain in the precinct, receiving 4 votes.

In the city’s 2nd Ward, Precinct H, Obama received 280 votes compared with 2 for McCain. Nader picked up 2 votes in that precinct.

In Warren’s 6th Ward, Precinct B, Obama beat McCain 431 to 2.

But it wasn’t just the predominately black sections of Youngstown and Warren that saw Obama crush McCain at the polls, according to unofficial vote totals from the presidential election.

Obama beat McCain in all 77 precincts in Youngstown as well as all 43 precincts in Austintown, Campbell’s 11 precincts, Struthers’ 15 precincts and all but two of Boardman’s 51 precincts.

Except for Boardman, very few of the totals in the other communities could be considered competitive.

In Austintown’s Precinct 32, Obama won 248 to 98. In Campbell’s 1st Ward, Precinct B, Obama won 180 to 24.

It wasn’t much better for McCain in Trumbull County.

Obama won every precinct in Niles, Girard, Hubbard city and township, Weathersfield, McDonald, Lordstown and Newton Falls. He also won all but one of Warren’s 58 voting precincts, and all but one of Liberty’s 18 precincts.

Yet Obama’s vote percentages in the Democratic-controlled Mahoning and Trumbull counties were less than those of John Kerry, the failed 2004 Democratic presidential nominee.

In Mahoning County, Obama received 61.7 percent of the vote to 35.8 percent for McCain.

In 2004, Kerry received 62.4 percent of the Mahoning vote; President George W. Bush, a Republican, received 36.7 percent.

In Trumbull County, Obama received 59.6 percent of the vote to 37.6 percent for McCain.

In 2004, Kerry had 61.6 percent of the Trumbull vote to 37.9 percent for Bush.

Obama’s total in Trumbull is 0.4 of a percent lower than 60 percent, the minimum number political experts say is needed from both that county and Mahoning for a Democrat to have a fighting chance to win the presidency in Ohio.

It turns out Obama didn’t need it as he won the state with 51.1 percent of the vote to 47.3 percent for McCain.

“If those two counties are below 60 percent, the Democrat is in trouble,” said William Binning, the retired chairman of the Youngstown State University political science department and a former Mahoning County Republican Party chairman. “Mahoning and Trumbull barely did their job.”

The fact that Obama didn’t do as well in Mahoning and Trumbull counties as Kerry in 2004 doesn’t detract from the importance of those two counties in winning Ohio, said Paul Sracic, YSU’s political science department chairman.

“A Democrat can’t win an election without winning this area,” he said. “You have to win here.”

As he did in many states, Obama fared well in suburbs such as Austintown and Boardman, where those who used to live in cities such as Youngstown now reside, Sracic said.

That was the key to Obama’s victory, Sracic said.

“Those are swing areas that were once Republican territory,” he said.

State Rep. Robert F. Hagan of Youngstown, D-60th, an Obama supporter, said he wanted the two counties to hit at least 65 percent for Obama.

“We did as much as we could to do,” he said. “I wish we would have been able to get higher numbers and tell the state and national parties that we delivered. It would have been a real boost for us. It’s still a good showing. It still remains a strong Democratic area. The candidates come here because the votes are here.”

Many traditional Republican strongholds voted for McCain, but the number of voters in those communities are significantly smaller than the two counties’ core cities.

Communities voting for McCain include Canfield as well as rural areas such as Beaver, Goshen, Green, Smith and Beloit in Mahoning County and Bloomfield, Champion, West Farmington, Greene, Gustavus and Orangeville in Trumbull.

But in Poland, which Binning says has “hardcore Republican precincts,” Obama narrowly defeated McCain. Obama won nine of the township’s 16 precincts, beating McCain by 192 votes. The candidates split the village’s four precincts, with McCain having a 22-vote edge.

Obama also had a lower voting percentage in Columbiana County than Kerry in 2004. Both Democrats lost that county.

Obama captured 44.8 percent of Columbiana County’s vote to 52.6 percent for McCain.

In 2004, Kerry won 47.3 percent of the county’s vote to 52.1 percent for Bush.

The heavily Democrat southern portion of Columbiana County was almost all for Obama.

Eleven of 12 precincts in East Liverpool, and all five precincts in Wellsville went for Obama.

In Lisbon, votes were almost evenly split. Of the three village precincts, McCain won one by five votes, lost another by one vote and there was a tie in the third precinct. In the northern part of the county, three of East Palestine’s four precincts went for Obama. Columbiana had five precincts for McCain and one for Obama.

In Salem, six precincts went to Obama and seven to McCain.

Support for McCain differed outside of municipalities.

In Butler Township’s South Precinct, outside Salem, McCain received 436 votes — the apparent largest precinct vote for him — as compared to 162 for Obama. But in rural Yellow Creek Township East, outside of Wellsville, Obama had 361 votes to McCain’s 340 votes.

All of Columbiana County’s precinct numbers could change slightly because not all of the absentee ballots were included in the precinct breakdown, although they were included in the county total.

Also, provisional votes — cast by people who moved into or within a county shortly before the election — have not been counted in any of Ohio’s counties, but those votes aren’t expected to change the outcome.

Though Obama didn’t do better than Kerry in the Mahoning Valley, the Democrat won six counties in Ohio that went for Bush in 2004, most notably Hamilton County (Cincinnati). Also, McCain received about 45,000 fewer votes in Franklin County (Columbus) than Bush in 2004, and about 25,000 fewer votes in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) than Bush.

On the flip side, McCain didn’t capture any county won by Kerry in 2004.

XFor a complete precinct-by-precinct breakdown in the tri-county area, see Vindy.com. XContributor: D.A. Wilkinson, Vindicator Salem Bureau

skolnick@vindy.com


Comments

1paulydel(971 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

I can't wait to see who the Democrats will blame now that they have control. This is one Democrat who is not happy and if Obama does what he says about taxes then lookout Lordstown because GM will become a ghost town then we will see how you like the almighty Obama then.

Suggest removal:

2YSUgrad99(189 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Democrats have held almost every elected seat in this town for 40 years. Please tell me what we have to show for it? Our largest employers are GM in Lordstown and the Air Force base. Beyond that, its a pretty big dip to the next largest employer. All I've seen are jobs leave town, and people move away!

Unions and local elected democrats = depressed local economy

I agree with paulydel, Obama will have unwavering support now in both Congress and the Senate. The current Congress is the lowest rated Congress in our nations history, which again, has been controlled by democrats for two years now. Who will they blame now, especially if things don't improve in the next year? Bush will be gone and Obama will be behind the steering wheel. I'm also worried about Obama's tax hikes. Trust me, I know he said no new taxes, but that's a crock, in 2010, he will let Bush's tax cuts expire, raising our taxes to Clinton era levels.

I'll hope for the best, but I'm worried.

Suggest removal:

3valleyred(978 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

How many times does this have to be posted!?

Suggest removal:

4Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Lets see next year how much support there is as Obama develops post election amnesia and does as he pleases. Who can forget Bill Clinton taxing Social Security and Workmans Compensation.

Suggest removal:

5cambridge(2282 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

pauldel, ysugrad00, valleyred, stan:

The state government in California, state labor laws like prevailing wage and a large union workforce in the bluest of states result in the sixth largest economy in the WORLD.

How do you explain that?

Consider the tax revenue sent to DC by this Democratic state and that revenue shared by red states like Wyoming, Alabama, Mississippi etc. and even light blue states like Ohio. None of those states generate enough revenue for their own infrastructure.

You are so quick to blame Democrats and unions for Youngstown's decline even though its a formula for success elsewhere. If you really want to know what is really holding back the valley take a long look in the mirror. It's people like you.

Suggest removal:

6Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Cambridge:

I have no reward of support for Obama as he hasn't accomplished anything worth crowing about during his political career other that winning this election. The next year will tell whether it was worth your effort voting him into office.

Now what have the democrats done for this Valley besides tax the crap out of it at every opportunity? Take a cruise around town then tell me! You'll find far more decay than growth! Lets lure some industry in to put the many thousands of idle hands to work! The solution is to develop wealth so that people aren't reduced to government handouts!

Suggest removal:

7cambridge(2282 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

stan:

Imagine yourself as someone looking for an area to expand your company in. Cruise around the country including y-town and the reason no company wants to invest in the valley is obvious. The population of y-town is half of what it was in the 70's. The people that saw the handwriting on the wall left. The people that didn't stayed. The government can't make a business move to an area where half the life long residents left.

None of you answered my question from my last post. California is everything you all claim drives companies away, union and democrat, yet a million people a year move there and the state has the sixth largest economy on the planet.

How do you explain that?

Suggest removal:

8stuckinOH(21 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

I wonder who voted FOR Obama and who voted AGAINST the Bush administation. Obama won by promising a conservative agenda (lower/no taxes etc). This from one of the most Liberal candidates in history. Hold on to your wallet with both hands!

Suggest removal:

9andersonathan(467 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

http://mapmash.googlepages.com/electi...

If you want the best map out there this is it. Obama won 20-21 counties out of 88. He basically carried city and suburbs. But there is a lot of red on these maps. Maps will show every state and county in the country. With the vote count in each. So don't let the Vindy and other sources trick you into thinking he turned the country blue. But you might be crying the "Blues" before he is done on 01.20.13
"Thanks But No thanks Keep The change" __-__ 2012

Suggest removal:

10apollo(1215 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Counties don't matter Nathan, States do. Obama won by a landslide in both pure votes and by the electoral college.

The fact that there are rural counties with great thinkers like you are irrelevant.

Might I suggest you move from Niles to maybe Texas where all the great thinkers live.

Suggest removal:

11Stan(9923 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Cambridge:

You are catching on. The people left due to high taxes which caused a loss of jobs. As for California we could have the same population growth if we were next to Mexico and had jobs available. We did however get some job opportunities from the two prisons that were built. Now the criminals can be housed in The Valley.

Suggest removal:

12andersonathan(467 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Apollo

The article in the paper was spouting Obama numbers in the county and surrounding areas [counties] So I gave you the link to check it out. But thanks for the knowledge of irrelevance of rural counties. This is good to know. Considering that 55-56 million voters opinions in your view are irrelevant shows intelligence on you part.

Suggest removal:

13FreedomRocks(4 comments)posted 3 years, 3 months ago

Be careful what you wish(vote) for...you just might get it. Good luck MV and I'll be praying for you and the country!!

Suggest removal:


News
Opinion
Entertainment
Sports
Marketplace
Classifieds
Records
Discussions
Community
Help
Forms
Neighbors

HomeTerms of UsePrivacy StatementAdvertiseStaff DirectoryHelp
© 2012 Vindy.com. All rights reserved. A service of The Vindicator.
107 Vindicator Square. Youngstown, OH 44503

Phone Main: 330.747.1471 • Interactive Advertising: 330.740.2955 • Classified Advertising: 330.746.6565
Sponsored Links: