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Austintown schools seek new five-year levy
AUSTINTOWN — The board of education says it’s necessary to place a 4.9-mill, five-year tax levy on the ballot this fall.
A resolution for the issue was approved by the board Monday. Schools Superintendent Doug Heuer said if passed, the levy could bring as much a $3 million per year into the school district.
He said the money would be used to deal with rising utility costs, as well as to fund repairs and the purchase of new equipment.
About $300,000 per year is designated for repairs and new equipment, Heuer said.
Read more in Tuesday’s Vindicator and Vindy.com
JOLLYRYOU (4 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months agoSome of you really need to take the wax out of your ears & put your glasses on. Are you even listening to what peace2u has said. I believe what is being said here. Some of you need to put your greedy self centered kind of a person on the back burner for once and listen. Maybe that is why the ASD is in this mess. No one wants to ever hear the truth, especially when you are involved. The truth hurts at times. I do know what peace is saying is very true. The dittos/copies are happening in each & every classroom in the ASD because none of the classrooms have enough books for every student. The students cannot even take books home unless permission is given to allow because of this shortage. Would it not have been more money saving by purchasing enough books for everyone and no copys?
Teachers do not teach the way of the past and you know this. Papers are being past out, one after another and another with less verbal teaching and have gone the silent way of teaching. And no I am not pro teacher, I was one and see & know what is going on in the ASD. You have made the parents of students see all this also. They have lost the respect and support of the ASD. It is true when said by many, the money first goes to all the pay raises and then nothing is left. Where I come from, we always put the district and our students needs first, then a raise would come into the talk when we knew the school system had enough. We always had the respect and support of the people because we used the money in the right area first and for what it was suppose to be used for.
The poster who said its funny, I really do not think peace would post if this were a laughing matter.
and peace does not have to fit your shoes. You chose to wear them and if you walked properly in them, only you know that.
there are ignorant posters but peace you learn to ignore them and do not stoop to their level.
why would people support a levy that they know that money will not go where its suppose to. It has not in the past. You have to earn respect/support of the people by using money properly and wisely and less ill spending.
Start by showing you care for each of your students & really start teaching them. The way you did when you first started. Hold your head high and be proud that you have all passing students because after all, they are a reflection of what you have taught them. Make it good.
Think less of the pay raises and direct that energy in making your district proud once again.
Earn the repect/support of all.
Good Luck
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago If they could win back the support of the community then more people woyuld be willing to vote yes .Since we know that won't happen between now and Novemeber the answer is no.
gobrowns (7 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago Jolly: First off, any levy that passes any school district in the U.S. goes to wages and benefits. They make up a very large portion of operating costs do they not? In your post you mention each and every classroom doesn't have enough books to do around? I find it very hard to believe that EVERY single classroom at every level has not enough books to go around! Do you have evidence to support this? Have you or do you know a person that has spent extended time in every classroom?
One final point, with the horrible education that is occurring district wide, it is amazing that ALSD was one of 6 schools that made Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) across the entire state. It further amazes me that the high school has been rated excellent since the creation of the state report cards! IMAGINE IF THOSE LAZY TEACHERS TAUGHT MORE THAN 25 MINUTES IN A GIVEN DAY. WITH THE 4 PLANNING PERIODS AND ALL THE DITTOS GOING OUT, THE TEACHERS MUST BE AMAZING!!
gobrowns (7 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago A few quick questions to posters on this board.
1.If the district employees came to the public and stated that they would take a wage freeze for a couple of years, would this get the levy to pass??
2. Has Austitown or any other school ever had community day or days at their schools? It seems that not just the Atown posters have this attitude towards today's educational system. Perhaps if the classrooms were open to the public some sort of way, the citizens could see where their money goes. IMHO, if I am being asked to invest in something, should I not be entitled to see where my money is going?
Interested to see the responses! Thanks and have a good night!
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago gobrowns,
well if the above is true^^^, of what you just said about when any levy is passed: then why is it being said by HEUER that the money from the 4.9 mill levy would be used to deal with rising utility costs, as well as to fund repairs and the purchase of new equipment?
STILL ~~ VOTE NO NO NO!!
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ~don't u get it~~
we ARE NOT going to pass a levy to fatten THY PAYCHECK & ADD MORE BENEFITS~~
ABSOLUTELY ~~VOTE NO-O-O!!
AtownParent (317 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago First off, I want to say about teachers not teaching. The ALSD BOE decided to introduce inclusion in their classrooms to reduce costs. This means that all students are in the same classes - gifted and those that need extra help. So what happens is the teachers teach at the level of the gifted kids, and the kids who need extra help actually have someone in the class with them, so the children that are in the middle are being left behind. This is not the fault of the teachers, it is the fault of the administration and the BOE.
Secondly, there are no community days. In fact, unless you are a PTA room parent, you are not allowed in the schools during the holiday parties or at any other time. This year they didn't even have the evening Christmas programs because of the work to rule crap the teachers pulled - they had it during the day when most parents are working. You are not welcome in those schools any more as just a parent.
Also, the administration fosters no community support when they never answer any residents questions. There was a meeting regarding open enrollment and attendees were asked to write down questions to the superintendent and then he would respond on the website. To this day, there has not been a single response. And I don't know if anyone noticed, but board meeting minutes and agendas are taken off the website almost immediately after they are posted - what are they trying to hide???
ATownExpat (4 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago I really don't understand a mentality like your's Grumpy. Some people are struggling so everyone has to take a pay cut? Didn't realize we were socialists. Teachers don't make any more money when the economy is booming but you want them to take the downside when it is in the dumpster. You continue to say how much teachers are paid as if it is a lot of money. It may be alot of money compared to a community that is under the national average of higher educated residents but $65k is not a lot of money for someone that invested 4 years of college and a year or two for a masters and worked with the same employer for 10+ years. Cut the salaries and the only teachers you will get are the ones that can't get jobs anywhere else in the country. You need to take a step outside of your community for a second and see what works in other places. It is a very short term and self centered mentality not to provide currently for your schools. The same old Youngstown-on-the-decline cycle is going to continue as the educated youth moves away at the first opportunity.
dmets (560 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago I have been reading this thread since people started adding posts. I decided to sign up to voice my view. I think the biggest problem with any school levy is the answer to the question are our children getting a excellent education? No not in many of the school districts around the area. I think the government has dropped the ball on the education of the children, our future leaders. The government needs to find a way to fund the schools rather then taxing the residents! School levys are going up everywhere and being voted down. Noone wants to pay more taxes for a school district whether their reasoning deals with lack of good teachers, building new school they can not afford, not giving the children enough educational choices, and list goes on. I just think with the way the economy is right now, noone has the extra money to spare. I do leave in Austintown, and my child starts school in the fall, but I have decided to send him to Mineral Ridge.
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ~no ~~ WE would GET FRESH "NEW" TACHERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR THE PRICE!
~ MAYBE that's what we NEED ~~ it's CALLED CHANGE!!
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ~ AND ~~ CHEEZ ~~ no paper ladies until they become SEASONED within the school district~~!!
ATownExpat (4 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago Re dmets comments - points well taken however, to my knowledge, the township has no other sources of sigificant revenue so where else but taxes do you propose that the funding comes from?
Re Peace2u comments - the law of supply and demand is a simple one and i guarantee you that the district that pays the lowest salary will end up with the least talented teachers. Change in this district would be great and a properly funded school system would definitely be a change. I graduated from Fitch in 93. When I was in 5th grade in another city i had computer classes (public school), when i moved to the Austintown district i didn't see a computer again till i was a senior in high school. That is just pathetic and a simple example of the disadvantages that the Austintown children have against most of the country. Again, its just sad and you're never going to see things get any better in that town until the schools are improved.
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago Jsut having more moenuy does not mean a thing. thake Monopoly for example the guy with more money who buys and buys properties does not always win. sometimes the guy with less money ends up winning becuase they know how to manage their money.
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago taxes for the schools and used FOR THAT PIRPOSE ~~
~~NOT FOR FATTER PAY CHECKS THOU!!
~~VOTE NO!!!
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago You got that right,not for adminstrators either.
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ~ Here's an "ARTICLE" of INTEREST that was written
"JUNE 6, 2008" ~~ read it very "SLOWLY & CAREFULLY" ~~
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le...
it's telling everyone that the 3 million (the 4.9 mill levy) raised annually "WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH" to solve the district's financial woes, but "THE BOARD" are HOPING that this 4.9 LEVY "would be low enough to "GAIN ACCEPTANCE" by voters.
~~ EVEN "IF" this passes, other measures are going to be taken ~~ & PROBABLY OPEN ENROLLMENT ~ EVEN THOU IT WAS "TOLD" at a BOARD MEETING that "instead of implementing OPEN ENROLLMENT WE WILL PUT A LEVY ON THE BALLOT TO PASS IN NOVEMBER
~~THINK voting yes on this levy is going TO AVOID "OPEN ENROLLMENT"~~ THINK AGAIN!!
THIS ARTICLE ON JUNE 6, 2008 SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE ARTICLE ABOVE ~~
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le...
ALSO , take note toward the end of the article about HEUER & the legislation ~~
QUOTE= "THAT SAME LEGISLATION HAS DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO "GET STATE FUNDING, RETROACTIVELY" FOR THE "COMPLETED MIDDLE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, HEAUER SAID!"
~~THE ARTICLE TO THIS BLOG ~~ CERTAINLY DOES NOT LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THIS "4.9 MILL LEVY" WILL NOT BE ENOUGH & that various types of FEES will still be implemented. etc!!
EVERYONE ~~ READ FOR YOURSELF:
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le...
AtownParent (317 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago Atown Expat - the children in the elementary schools have a computer lab now - well, they did until Heuer closed Davis and some of those computer labs had to be removed to make room for all the new students.
Peace2u - there will be open enrollment in A-town. It is a given since Creatore is gone and Ritchie is President. Ritchie wanted open enrollment 8 years ago, and Creatore shut it down. As residents, we need to start thinking to the future and who we need on the BOE to get our community moving into the right direction - with who we have now we are only going down and soon our schools will be no better then Youngstown City Schools.
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago AtownParent
RIGHT-ON YOU ARE!!
~~~ The Board & Supt. Heuer NEED to STOP saying one thing / then another = which in reality MEANS the COMPLETE OPPOSITE! Quit CONFUSING RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO GET A LEVY PASSED!! shame shame!!
~~~ I was really surprised that THIS ARTICLE WAS "STILL" AVAIABLE to go back on & be able to read thoroughly AGAIN, just to be sure "I GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!"
~~~ once someone on BOE get wind of this being told to read~~ THIS sure will be REMOVED~~ give it a day or two!!
~~BEFORE IT'S REMOVAL ~~ YOU ALL BEST/ BETTER READ IT~~ BETTER YET "COPY IT~~ I HAVE!!
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le......
>> "OUST THE WHOLE BOARD & SUPT. HEUER!!""
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ALSO, IN REGARDS TO THAT ARTICLE~~
A SUPPLY FEE FOR "PAPER" ~~ you know for "ALL THOSE COPIES/DITTOS" becasue of;
1. shortage of books
2. for the "SEASONED" PAPER LADY TEACHER(S)
A FEE FOR "ACTIVITY" TRANSPORTATION FEE ~~ gee that's the THANKS parents & their STUDENT(S) get for REPRESENTING THEIR SCHOOL & the money $$ already invested for particular shoes, shirts, dry cleaning, etc. pertaining to the activity involved in!!
When YOU read the article in "COPIED" form, one tends to learn much more from it!!
READ ARTICLE =
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le......
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago That and let charge to go to the bathroom. Why not everything esle free cost money now and still we need more money.
PEACE2U (115 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago ~ AND NOW "5 LEVIES" FOR OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE TURNED DOWN YESTERDAY ~~ do you suppose those people are ALSO SICK OF THE ASKING OF MORE MONEY & THEN MIS-USED
~~some of those levies will be put back on the ballot in November to be VOTED ON AGAIN ~~ what part of "NO" do they not understand !! NO is NO is "NO" in my book!!
~~maybe the BOARD & HEAUER might want to get a head strart on cost cutting measures ~~ START COLLECTING THOSE ALUMINUM CANS during YOUR SUMMER & DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR & turn in for "money" = do ya think their BRAINS can handle that / EXCEPT AS FOR THE $$ PART ~~ CANNOT BE TRUSTED ~~ NEVER WOULD SEE IT / MIS-USED just like the money $$ from the closing of Davis Elementary~~ H-m-m-m think that went to someone's FATTER PAYCHECK!
~ONE OTHER COST CUTTER ON HEAUER'S END = "give up that $1000.00 gas allowance" THAT you GET TO KEEP whether you use IT OR NOT!!
~~And IF they can get $ for all the "PAPER" used for dittos/paper lady teachers ~ that would ALSO be ANOTHER "cost cutting measure ON THEIR PART!!
~~START NOW DO NOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER WHEN THE ANSWER "WILL BE NO!!"
~something MORE to ponder in regards to the 4.9 levy for MORE money that they already KNOW will NOT be enough & will NOT STOP OPEN ENROLLMENT;
~~ THE MONEY SAVED FOR THE DISTRICT WHEN TEACHERS TOOK THE "re-tire/re-hire" ~~ WHERE'S THAT "GOING" OR SHALL WE ASK WHERE HAS IT "GONE"
~ A MUST READ ARTICLE;
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jun/06/le...
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 3 months ago We can ask but the asnwer will be a lie. If this does pass it would be a shocker to me.
AtownMom (1 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago I've lived in this area all my life; and I must say the quality of teachers we had then are NOT the quality of teachers my children have now. I currently have five of my six children going to Austintown schools. They were in Catholic schools for most of it, and I will tell you that Catholic school teachers don't make what I believe everyone thinks they make. However, I know they loved and cared about each one of my children. When my husband lost his job; and I lost mine one year later, the principal told me she refused to turn away a parent based on their abilty to pay tuition if they truly desired to give their child a Catholic education. Trust me, if you think Catholic school teachers get higher pay because of the high tuition...just ask them.
Anyhow, do you have any idea what it is to work midnights or even a 10-hour day shift just to come home and have four kids asking you to help them with their homework? That may not be so bad if you weren't already dead on your feet and trying to cook dinner. The problem is that they send home a piece of paper most of the time with no book to find the instructions. Sorry, I don't remember exactly everything I learned 20 years ago so I might need a refresher. Not just that, but they are teaching different ways of working out math problems. If that's not enough stress, then go ahead and ask me how I'm going to come up with more tax dollars on my property when I'm happy to have enough money for groceries and gas to work.
Oh, and Ms. Aztec (the one who lives in Atlanta and says we're not supporting our education and therefore our community) you said we reap what we 'sew'. As a brilliant teacher getting paid brilliant money in Atlanta because you are getting paid what you're worth, I hope you are not an English or spelling teacher because I believe that would be, "You reap what you sow." Hey, and I don't even have a masters degree!
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago And now the bsing si a mess. the new AMS has messed everything up,who knew one school would make a school go i nthe red and ahve to cut costs everywhere but at the top wwhere it should be done first? Heck the AMS principal had no clue why MCCC students where there to tkae the bus home on the first day of school. now thats' jsut messed up since th baord office is in the same building.
StudentofAtown (1 comments)posted 1 year, 1 month ago I AM A STUDENT AT FITCH CURRENTLY..
I KNOW THAT THE ECONOMY ISN'T LIKE IT USED TO BE..
AND I KNOW THAT DOUG HEUER IS THE WORST FOR OUR DISTRCT..
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR TEACHERS DO NOT GET IT AS GOOD AS YOU ALL MAY THINK..
ONE OF MY FAVORITE TEACHERS MAY LOSE HER JOB IF THIS LEVY DOESN'T PASS..
THERE ARE TEACHERS THROUGHOUT THAT SCHOOL..
AND THROUGHOUT OUR DISTRICT WHO CARE ABOUT NOTHING BUT THEIR STUDENTS..
AND I CAN SEE THAT THROUGH THEIR TEACHING..
THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY HERE FOR A REASON..
I AM ALSO WORRIED ABOUT AN EXTRA CIRRICULAR CUT..
I AM IN ALMOST EVERY CLUB AT MY SCHOOL..
AND THAT DOES NOTHING BUT BENEFIT ME..
AND TEACHERS TAKE THEIR TIME TO HELP AND ADVISE ALL OF THESE CLUBS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN..
I CARE ABOUT MY FUTURE AND UNTIL YOU STEP INTO MY CLASS ROOM YOU WILL NOT SEE THAT THESE "HORRIBLE" TEACHERS YOU SPEAK OF.. ARE THE ONES TAKING ME TOWARDS MY FUTURE..
YOU LIVE IN A CITY FULL OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS WHO NEED THESE TEACHERS.. I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT MY TEACHERS..
AND ABOUT MY FUTURE..
AND IF YOU CAN'T REACH INTO YOUR POCKET TO KEEP MY FUTURE BRIGHT..
WELL FINE..
LEAVE YOUR PROBLEMS ON THE PARENTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN RIDGE AND JACKSON HAVING TO PAY TAXES SO THAT YOUR KIDS CAN GO TO SCHOOL OFF OF THEIR MONEY INSTEAD OF YOUR OWN..
SUPPORT THE DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN..
OR GET OUT..
BECAUSE AS A 17 YEAR OLD WITH ONE YEAR LEFT..
I NEED THIS LEVY..
VOTE YES YES YES..
BECAUSE ITS IN THE HANDS OF US STUDENTS WHO CAN'T..
YOUR SELFISHNESS IS GOING TO HURT THE STUDENTS..
GROW UP.
metz87 (868 comments)posted 1 year, 1 month ago All good reaosns to vote yes but what about this. they wil lstay lay off teachers even if it passes. our board kinds of makes up it mind behind clsed doors and we wil lstill be a couple million in the red even if this passes. one question how did we go from having a excess of money to a 5 million deficent in 3 years? prbably took shorter then that but somewehre along the way the money went like a waterfall,right out our pockets and into well who knows really,they are't clear on that.
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Austintown Board members cannot even be serious in thinking that levy has a smowballs chance of passing. Have they checked gas prices lately? Or grocery prices? People cannot afford to put gas in there cars or struggling to put groceries on the table. We just received a letter that our gas price to heat our home was guaranteed LAST YEAR to not be more than $10.83 / mcf, this year the guaranteed not to exceed is $15.865/mcf. So I think the Board needs to make other adjustments because the answer is NO !!! And that is from a parent of two children in the Austintown schools!
Public employees are simply out of touch with reality. They think the trough grows forever and that taxpayers should continually provide more for them and less for the taxpayer. It's time the taxpayers took a stand and voted no on all new tax increases. It's time that the public workers faced the same reality that the taxpayers face. Shrinking incomes and less benefits.
Here is an idea. Ask the teachers if they are willing to give up a percentage of their salary. If they are not willing, what makes you think that I want to? The Austintown Board of Education needs to get employee costs under control before they ask the taxpayer to give more. It was quoted that the recent retirement of senior teachers will save $90,000 per year in salary and benefits. How many Austintown residents receive $90K in salary and benefits?? My vote is NO!
As I see it,,VOTE NO. We give and give. And to repeat the others,,everybody is feeling the pinch,,so should the teachers. Who by the way have all holidays off and all summer off. Why don't we look at a 4 day school week??????
Save 1 days worth of gas, miles,wear and tear on busses.
Teachers work 4 days also.- close the school. Save on utilities, cleaning, ect.
I am sure there are many other things that would see a savings with this....
Any comments?????????
That sounds great-t-t piwohio, but that would only put our kids with a l-o-n-g-e-r day ~~ the 7 hours lost for no friday school would have to be incorporated among the 4 days that they have school. As it is, some kids are not getting home off the bus until 4:30 - 5 PM. Just can't imagine any later & then who's suffering ~~ the kids are.
I really think the short-fall is coming from the "NEW" Middle School that was built. The funding from the state was for a "2 floor" & not for a "3" floor, which was done without "permission" and caused the state not to generate the total share they had promised to the District. At that time, Austintown only had the money to BUILD IT and not to furnish it. It is amazing what you can learn at Board meetings of how ALL Board MEMBERS act like "the cat got their tongues" & this will NEVER BE TOLD!! This Superintendant Heuer has really made a MESS of a fine school district. Makes you wonder why HE "commutes" from Columbus & does not even LIVE HERE~~ no one else wanted him. Keep in mind, when Heauer was hired~~ he was suppose to MOVE here within a year~~ according to my clock ~~ it has been far more a year & still has not moved!!
~ I strongly agree~~ VOTE NO for 4.9 mill levey!!!
~and VOTE YES for a new school board!!
~~ And~~ what about the MONEY being saved in closing Davis Elementary?? Where's the money going??
The money saving Davis went to the 1% retroactive to Aug 2007 raise they gave Heuer at the last board meeting.
There was also 2-3 million left over from the building of the school that went to the turf and stadium construction.
Vote No, until someone with fiscal responsibility is sitting on the board.
I am tired of every "cost cutting" measure being at the expense of the children and then they give our worthless superintendent a raise WTF?!?
I am flying a bit blind on this 4 day school week. But could it not be explored??? Making sure our kids do not spend 9 or 10 hours per day. I agree that would be to long. It just somehow makes since to find ways to cut cost,,but no they want to dig deeper into our pockets.
I also agree with the pay raise issue. He has not earned it.
The new school, that was a railroad job all the way. Did we need a new one- YES. How it was done with the building levy, then no operations money.....get real,,,we got the stick and balls on this one. What happened to the sale of the old school???? Looks like a used car lot now.
I do think we need some real leaders. I moved to Austintown 12 years ago. I picked Austintown for the schools and home life. One son finished this year and second son in two more years. I have noticed a slow decline with the school system in these years.
But I still have to vote "NO" on any new levy. I, a middle class earner,, feel for the retired, older people, fixed income. We are all digging deeper these days. ALL paid staff that work at the school need to pay more in med, retirement, ect themselves.
My 02 cents.
It's time for layoffs and concessions folks, because this town is taxed enough. You want money for rising utilities? Why not cut one thing to pay another (it's called budgeting) and that's what we folks of A-town are doing in these tough times, and it's what the school system should do. Why not eliminate sports (football) you haven't provided the town with a winner in years.
The sale of the school was scratched when the buyer had soil tested & it was contaminated & also the building has asbestos & would have been too costly to confine it when torn down. Speaking of asbestos ~~ on the school website Public Notice Page 7-24-08, there is this notice posted~~"Asbestos containing materials are present in the following buildings; Watson, Lynn-Kirk, Woodside, Lloyd, & Fitch." This had to be posted as required by the Asbestos Hazard Emergency Response Act.
~Yes, we need leaders who do not act like "cat got their tongue" at Board Meetings. They ALL act like they are scared to speak out against anything. They NEVER answer any questions with a definite answer ~~ usually it's said "we will find out & let you know" ~~ but NEVER do let you know!! There are issues from last school year that questions have yet to be answered. Some of them are concerns of what we are talking about now! It is very frustrating to see what this school board has become! When school starts~~ our kids will come home with messages & some will be threatening saying if the mill levy does not pass, this is gonna take place etc. ~~ instead of teaching the subjects~~ the levy WILL BECOME the SUBJECT in ALL CLASSES~~ this went on with the teachers & their raises!!
~~Part of the districts losing money is we are getting less funding by the state per student count because
1. more home schooling is being done 2. Kids are going to North Jackson & Mineral Ridge schools because the quality of education is not here like it was!! Maybe Supt. Heuer & the Board NEED to open their EYES & EARS & ask WHY are so many students opting out Austintown School District! I have 2 graduated -05 & 08 and one more left to finish.
~~If a 4 day school week could be worked out without the kids living at school ~~ I would be for it!
~~It was said that the "TURF" was donated~~
~~We had to ADJUST our BUDGET accordingly & cannot possibly give any more $$ . We will have to vote NO on any new levy also, but STILL say VOTE YES for NEW SCHOOL BOARD & SUPT. !!
I currently reside in and am a teacher in a large school district near Atlanta. You all should feel fortunate the school board has to ask you for permission to raise your taxes. Where I live, if the board wants more money, they raise your taxes. No questions asked. With that said, they have only done that one time in the 8 years I have lived here. Our NON-UNION school district is fiscally responsible and our wages are significantly higher than those in Youngstown. Many of you complain that you cannot afford another tax levy. Can you then afford for your property values to go down when your schools become subpar? Lets face it, schools drive property values. No one wants to live where the schools are lack-luster. As for the one person who said teachers should take a pay cut - Are you serious? Teachers in Austintown already have a less-than-desireable salary and now you want them to make even less? Get real. Do I think that the responsibilty of funding schools should depend mainly on property taxes? No. But that is how Ohio works. Maybe you should start calling and emailing your congressmen to look at other states to see how their schools are funded. Layoffs are not the answer as they only provide temporary relief. You need a permanent solution.
NO aztek519 ~~
~~ A permananent solution would be to "oust" the WHOLE School Board ALONG with the Superintendent!
~~~ Had the money been used appropriately to begin with ~~ we would not be having this discussion today!!
~~~ when it comes to more money it has ALWAYS been used FIRST to make fatter paychecks, then there is not enough "left" to do for what it WAS ear-marked for!
~ people are sick of the money FIRST going to fatter PAYCHECKS!
~~ That's the ALL AMERICAN WAY~~ make less/ work harder... my husband does & to top that off he puts in 11-12 hour days!!
Im sure a teacher in Austintown would gladly take these fatter paychecks that you speak of. And as for 11-12 hour days, teachers also work that long - sometimes longer. Yes, they may only be contracted for 8 hours a day, but a teacher's job never ends with the last bell. For as much education and time teacher's put in, they are not paid what they are worth in Youngstown. And before you start in on "they have summers off" I urge to see how many teachers do other things in the summer for extra money. Maybe then you will see that their paychecks aren't so fat. Is the board and superintendant to blame for the district's problems? Probably, but who always up taking the brunt of their problems? Teachers. They lose their jobs, get benefits cut, larger class sizes, go with little or no raises year after year, and get little or no respect from the community.
~ THEY already HAVE!!
~ like I said THE ALL AMERICAN WAY ~~
~ my husbands' job also NEVER ends when he punches that time clock ~~ on call & EVEN does side jobs on his one & only day off~~ so-o-o ~~
~~never MENTIONED SUMMER OFF ~~ thanks for reminding me ~~ he doesn't see time OFF at ALL!!
What MAKES YOU any different~~ REALITY HERE!!
I am sorry that your husband works at a job where he works 365 days a year with absolutlely no vacation time at all. However, I would venture to say that if you looked at a teacher's paycheck, you would see that they are anything but fat. This is obviously a very touchy subject with you, but I don't understand how you can elect to live in a community and not be supportive of its teachers. When the tax levy fails and cuts are made, you will be the first one to complain that the schools are becoming crappy. Then you will try to sell your house, which wont happen because the schools are bad. The community in which I live has overwhelming support for its schools to the point that any tax issue is easily passed, typically 3 to 1. To me, THAT is the American way. Supporting your schools. You reap what you sew.
aztek519
~ I do not blog for sympathy~~
~~ Just trying for YOU to see the real world called REALITY for what IT IS!
~~ So-o-o YOU ARE SEEING that not EVERYONE "gets those perks" after all~~huh? (no vac. time)& how GOOD YOU really have it!
~~At this school system ~~teachers are contracted 7 -8 hours, HOWEVER~~ THEY are not teaching those full hours~~ AN average of 4-5 hours ONLY~~ so whats the complaining about~~ my husband does not have that kind of "perk" in his job~~ HE WORKS EVERY MINUTE-HOUR-SECOND THAT IS ON HIS TIME CLOCK
~~~ I ALWAYS HAVE been SUPPORTIVE of TEACHERS ~~ BUT "when YOU start SEEING & HEARING" that THEIR "PRIORITY" is all about them & just do NOT give a hoot of the well-being of the SCHOOL DISTRICT they are teaching for ~~ how can YOU want OUR support when ALL YOU see is $$$$$ & YOU DO NOT SUPPORT the school system YOU ARE teaching in!
~~"quit" going after more $$~~ put ALL the $$ to use for the school system & for the main ingrediant ~~ the kids well being.
~~maybe ALL OF YOU should START SEEING things from the point of "its NOT all about me
~~ in regards to property value ~~ maybe the teachers SHOULD have to live in the SCHOOL district they teach~~ most here DO NOT~~ THEY would then LOOK at things differently & say wait a minute ~~ this will affect my property also ~~ so-o-o its time I start thinking about the school district more than ALWAYS ABOUT ME $$$!
~~NO-O-0 you see ~~ you do not have to SELL & MOVE ~~ You START enrolling YOUR CHILD IN NORTH JACKSON OR MINERAL RIDGE school system where THOSE TEACHERS give their RESPECT/SUPPORT to their school district, students, & its citizens FIRST!!
~~Give a little respect/support & then YOU get back twice-fold!
~~ become crappy ~~ honey~ they are already there~~ quality of education is not here like in the past~~ Wanna KNOW WHY?
It's because there are SOME TEACHERS that WANT THAT FAT $$$ PAYCHECK & have become PAPER LADIES ( you know, SIT & be referee) while the students do this one & that one ~~ the SILENT teaching method & DO NOT TEACH "VERBALLY"
~~ In fact, I tend to BELIEVE ~~ you are within this school district & IF not ~~ u need to come this end ~~ U WOULD FIT RIGHT IN!
~~ YOU say that any of your tax issues are "PASSED" in the above post u wrote ^^^ ~~ UH~~ earlier YOU WROTE that it is not VOTED ON & that it is just put on by the Board!
~~TALKING from BOTH ENDS of your mouth
~~ YOU CERTAINLY REAP WHAT YOU SEW ~~ YOU STILL THINK YOU ARE ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE WITH YOUR JOB $$$$$~~
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We do not vote on tax levies for our millage rate. That is set and changed by the board. We do, however, vote on a penny sales tax that is used to build and renovate schools and provide new technology for schools. Those are the taxes that pass with no problem. I should have been more clear about that. I am not talking from both ends. You are correct when you say that teachers probably only teach about 4-5 hours a day. However, the time spent not teaching is spent in meetings, contacting parents, grading papers, preparing lessons, and making copies. Not sitting around. Now, Im sure that there are teachers that do just sit around, but many teachers are being productive during that time. As for fat paychecks, no one goes into the teaching profession for the money, believe me. I have a master's degree and make $40000 less than my sister who works in the corporate sector with a bachelor's. Do I make bad money? No. Could I make more money if I worked in corporate America? Possibly. I enjoy what I do and I am good at it. However, I do not think that I am better than everyone. As for enrolling in another district, if you read lately, NJ is also looking to put a tax levy on the ballot. No district is without its faults. You trade one set of problems for another. However, before you pass judgement on the schools, perhaps go visit a school in the fall and see what all is going on in the classrooms. You may see exactly what you are talking about. However, you may also see exactly the opposite.
What Peace2U siad is the same way I felt,I graduatued from Fitch in 2007 and Our last Superintnedent Who shares the same name as one of our Elementary school,Watson was well liked by all. Back then we had no money problems like we do now and the way we spend money is like a thundersrtom in the summer,it all comes at once. there is another thing I don't like when you make a cmpus like they now have with a Middle school<lemenatary school and the High school something like Virgina Tech could happen,some peope out there are jsut evil like that and now they have more targets. let's hope it never happens but if it does we would figure out why quickly.
Austintown has had money problems since I was there in the 80's and 90's. You may not have noticed the money problems when you were in school because there was a levy in place. On another note, campuses are more efficient for schools to operate with. If you notice, many smaller districts are going to 1 k-12 building. Schools are not like a college campus. Most of the time, the only doors that are unlocked after arrival times are those by the front office. When I was at Fitch, you could come and go as you please through any door. Last time I was there to visit with a former teacher, I was limited to 1 set of doors directly in front of the main office.
There have been money problems, yes, but what is happening now is just a mess. A school was closed and all those kids were transferred into other schools - where those schools had to eliminate computer labs, libraries, art and music classrooms to make room - and yet our Superintendent gets a raise!
We built a new school that does not have enough room to house all the kids.
They are building a bus garage in the campus - but have no place to build a Super Elementary school in the campus that is big enough. The only land that is big enough is the old AMS land - where do you think the elementary kids are going to go?
The teachers contract that was being disputed would have given administrators the ability to schedule classes in an effort to give all kids who wanted to take those classes a chance - they would add extra classes for those that had high demands - but the teachers in the HS did not want to give up their extra planning period - it had the potential to save the district 1.5 million. Instead of conceding that point, the teachers refused to budge. So the admin closed a school.
Nothing that is done in this district is done for the kids - every cut has come at a cost to them. There are so many self serving agendas within this district is disgusting - from the teachers union to the OAPSE to the admin to the BOE. Its time for some new people to get this district running right.
Yeah they have more money to waste then theyThey got 50 more secuirty cameras and Cocoa Cola siad it was all by a donaion of $88,000 . Well were are all thsoe camera going,into the middle school becuase Fitch already has a lot of thm and the next place to put tem would be i Nthe bATHROOMS.
They are going on the buses since now the 4-5th graders ride with the high school kids.
Thats' not a good idea at all. We all know the bg kids pick on the little kids and that it s ahrd to watch everyone o a bus all the time. I wonder where theior brains are? Even with those cameras there will be problmes.
Once again~~ ALL of the BOARD & COLLEEN MURPHY (HEAD OF TRANSPORTATION REALLY need to open their EYES & EARS~~
concerning the 4/5th graders BUSING "w/ high schoolers" ~~quit SITTING ON & "START USING" THY BRAIN!!
They "think" by assigning a SENIOR on each bus to watch over the 4/5 graders EVERYTHING will be OK ~~ according to COLLEEN = "her GRANDSON is EVEN going to be riding with the high schoolers ~~ "IT WILL BE JUST PEACHY" SAYS COLLEEN!!
~~ you ARE all IN FOR A rude AWAKENING!!
~~most OF THE trouble ACTUALLY starts while "WAITING" FOR THE BUS~~ THE SWEARING - BULLYING - SMOKING NICOTINE = PLUS THE ADDITIVE & THE PLANNING OF SKIPPING SCHOOL ONCE AT SCHOOL ~~ my 2 kids that graduated WERE FORCED (not that they minded) to drive so-o-o they DID NOT HAVE TO TOLERATE ALL THE CRAP @ THE BUS STOP & ON the bus! We as the parents did not want the driving on the agenda so soon BUT did not want our kids to be subjected to that behavior & so it was better that THEY DROVE THEMSELVES TO AVOID ALL THE CRAP HAPPENING THEN.
~~ THE PARENTS of the 5/6 graders WILL NOW NEED to PATROL their childs bus-stop ~~ doesn't that sound EXCITING!! COLLEN MURPHY & THE BOARD THINKS SO!!
~~one thing thou~~ 4/5 graders will NOT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE CRAP~~ it's a little to soon for them to try & drive themselves THEY WILL HAVE TO "TOLERATE" THE
1. swearing
2. bullying
3. smoking plus more additive
4. fighting
5. unfortunately the google eyeing- kissing etc. among some of the older ~~ face it ~~ you are dealing with small adults w/ hormones.
6. etc. > i am sure there are more things happening that WE ARE NOT AWARE OF.
Dearest Colleen ~~ I hope your grandchild is exposed to this on the VERY FIRST BUS TRIP & WE WILL SEE HOW "PEACHY" THIS SMART IDEA REALLY WAS!!
PARENTS OF 4/5TH GRADERS == "You ALL NEED TO TAKE a STAND ON THIS & DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN~~ other school districts protested when something was BEING tried WRONGFULLY with their busing ~~ & then it did not happen!!
** I certainly hope that you all are not planning to be transporting kid(s)to & from school ~~ this is what OUR GREAT SCHOOL BOARD & COLLEEN WANT!! We are ALL law-abiding citizens who PAY Taxes that provide these services for our children!! DO NOT LET ANYONE TAKE THIS AWAY!!
PS+ with just the high schoolers on a bus ~~ they were pretty packed = 3-4 to a seat~~~ so-o-o how in the world are they going to ADD 4/5th graders~~ pack them in like SARDINES just like they have at "OUR SARDINE MIDDLE SCHOOL!! SAFETY really concerns me & is a ISSUE!!
LATEST~~FITCH has the cameras but are YOU aware that just a FEW actually WORK!!
Yeah most of the are dummies that are not even hooked up and Collen is someone who feels she is right no matter what anyone says and that is just plain stupid and selfish too of her. I go to MCCTC now but they had a snowday and Austintown sent one bus at 2p.m. without telling us so I missed the bus and my parents ahd to pick me up. Collen told my mom it is not her problem! Hmm,sounds like it is since she is jhead of trnasportation and she was the one who made the decison to sned one bus early.
"SNUCK" IN the NEW MATH & "Trying" to IMPLEMENT a UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT for "OUR" 4/5th grade KIDS!
~ Maybe some "new math" directed at the SCHOOL BOARD,
SUPT. HEUER. & COLLEEN MURPHY;
DO REALLY THINK THE 4.9 MILL LEVY IS GOING TO PASS?
* SHOW YOUR ANSWER IN "3" DIFFERENT WAYS!
** ALSO, "HOW DO YOU KNOW?
knwoing that we only voted for one in 10 years and all the others were voted down I am tihnk it will be no. They show us no reaosn other then they ant more to wasste that they need the money,and where is it all goig,to the studnet's education? I think not.
Be patient, I am going to respond to multiple users at one time. First, the jackhole that said why not get rid of sports because Fitch hasn't given the community a winner in a long time. Keep in mind that this is HIGH SCHOOL!! Sometimes, its not always about wins and losses! While we're at it, why don't we get rid of all extracurriculars, I am sure that borderline kids would make great decisions with all that extra time!
Next, to the best of my knowledge, I think that there has been no new money into the ALSD since 1997! Is it just me, or have the costs to do EVERYTHING gone up largely since that time? Granted, there has been mismanagement in the past with finances, and current administration are NOT from the A-town community.
Those damn greedy teachers! If simply going on the posts from this board, it seems that anyone with a logical brain would dream as a young kid to become a teacher. Forget professional athlete, or president, why would you not want to do a job where you don't really have to work and make huge sums of money?
As everyone knows, this community has been economically depressed for the better part of 30 years. Now, there are many factors that have continued to cause this, but a phrase that sums it up best is "ignorance is bliss". It seems that some on this board are not anti-teacher, they are anti-education. Most likely, they did not have a very good school experience and blame their former teachers. In what other profession besides teaching no matter what are that you live in could you have 15 years of experience and a masters degree and make only 70K? Lawn mowers and snow plowers make more per year, but those darn greedy lazy teachers.
I agree with the poster who said it is the duty of the citizens to financially support schools, in our current backwards way of funding. For all of those people that voted for Strickland, one of his paramount issues was educational finance reform. How is that coming Teddy-boy? He is too busy preparing a potential presidential run in 2012 to care IMHO.
Finally, for all of those who are having economic difficulties, I feel for you, and am with you! If you are concerned with higher taxes, be sure to vote for Barack. With the democrat triumvirate controlling things, it will be nice to see the HUGE swell in our taxes to pay for all the deadbeats who are too lazy, unmotivated, or blame others for their personal life situations.
But if Barack doesn't win, he can always go back to school, become a teacher, and be rich beyond his wildest dreams!
Well they don'r earn as much you you tihnk. The msot is 80,0000 and that is f they have been a teacher for more then 15 years. Msot earn a lot less ten that a year.
**I WILL NOT GET POLITICAL ON MY BLOG~~ MY VOTING IS PERSONAL~~SORRY
~would someone who's anti-education be on here?
~~maybe that's where the comparison comes in!!
~~the quality education / great teachers WHO VERBALLY TAUGHT
in my years of school to that of NOW ~~ QUALITY IS DEFINITLY GONE!
~~As a matter of fact, we did not have dittos, carbon copies of papers thrown at us to do, do, & do = (the PAPER LADY TEACHER NOW-A-DAYS)! INSTEAD , you HAD teachers that cared ABOUT each & every student IN THE CLASS because THEY FELT the grade given on the report card was actually theirs & would have been embarassed if ONE CHILD was not doing good. That's another comparison to now-a-days~
~~If it were not for all this to "compare" ~~ then I would say "just go with the flow~~ but cannot ~~ for I KNOW QUALITY EDUCATION
~ now a days ~~ the PARENTS are the teachers & the TEACHERS are the re-inforcers~~ WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
~YOU JUST DO NOT SEEM TO GET IT~~
you know ~~~~ finally the word NO,NO,NO $$$ is being said here ~ like a kid being told NO more candy
~THE BOARD, SUPT., & ALL OF YOU HAVE MADE THE AUSTINTOWN SCHOOL SYSTEM GO DOWN THE DRAIN IN MORE THAN ONE FLUSH!!
~~You ALL had many chances to PUT THE MONEY WHERE IT WAS NEEDED FOR "OUR KIDS" but chose NOT TO!! $$$$$$
NO NO NO ~~NO MORE CHANCES LEFT ~~ SORRY!!
Not ouless we get someone who cares about the msot importnat thing,the studnets and not their pocketbooks. Why not have a board of 80 year old from the time that money was not what people care about the most,it was famaily and work efifics. That woud make things the way they should be I tihnk.
Very well put, gobrowns. As for the other poster...Teachers are teachers, parents and disciplinarians. Teachers are more of a parent to some students then their own parents. Parents teach? HA! How many parents can do calculus, physics, trig, chemistry, etc? Mine couldn't. That is why I had excellent teachers at Fitch. Some of them are still there and are very well respected, especially in the math department. Now, some were crappy, I will give you that.
But msot are good at what they do,it is not the money that keeps them there it is knowing they give others knowledge. Yes a very few may be there for the paycheck like most jobs but they are the excpetion to the rule.
I tend to dis-agree with you~~
When a child is not LEARNING from a paper lady teacher~~ it leaves no other alternative than for the parents to teach & when they cannot in a certain subject there are by far means help on the internet believe me! But hey, why should WE keep making it look good for that teacher~~ because we as the parent are concerned for the SUCCESS of our child & YOU certainly are NOT!
~~ some of those teachers may be there~~ but they ARE NOT what THEY USE TO BE!
~My daughter HAD some really great-t teachers ~~ but WHEN it came around to my Son ~~ THOSE GREAT-T-T TEACHERS ~~ what a CHANGE~~~ BECAME the paper lady teachers~~ what a dis-appointment! And NOW my other daughter~~ more of a DECLINE in those GREAT-T-T TEACHERS!
~ And that's why VOTE NO for 4.9 MILL LEVY~~ the $$money$$ will go to more pay raises =(work less for) and NOT for the intended purpose!!
That may e ture and all but we all have diffrent opnions on this. True teachers are not what they used to be but we stil have good teachers out there.
Unfortunately for Austintown's children, the vast majority of Austintown's residents have historically shown no interest in investing in their community. Austintown will never be able to turn the corner from its constant state of decline until its residents become willing to dip into their pockets to improve the schools.
The constant complaints about salaries of public employees in Austintown is ridiculous. Teachers get paid well? News flash - they get paid horribly. $70k after 15 years with a masters degree is good? Who are you comparing that too? Obviously not a professional with a similar educational background. Where I live they have problems getting teachers on better salaries since they could not even think about purchasing a home on that level of income. If salaries in Austintown do not keep up with the nation, it will not attract any talent (including talented teachers) and the schools will get worse and worse.
As for the misconception about how hard teachers work - they bust their butts using the limited resources they are given to do a job that should be viewed as supremely important but is treated as poor. It is obvious that anyone posting comments to the contrary has never known a good teacher.
Austintown will continue to see its property values decline. No major employer that requires an educated workforce is going to set up shop in a town with poorly funded schools. No one wants to subject their children to a poor education.
Education is key to a better life. The people of Austintown should want that for their children and their community. I graduated from Fitch. It needed better resources when I went there (early 90's) and it is a safe bet that comparatively those resources are fewer now. Its time to stop putting your children behind the 8 ball from the start of their lives. Want Austintown and property values to improve? Make the school system the best in the area. Home values will rise and new homes will come, when that happens your tax rates can decrease to account for the increased tax base. Its a system that works time and time again, just requires a little less selfishness than normal.
ANd what do you do when you do jsut that and they keep asking for more and more money and you ahve less and less to give. Tere comes a point where you have to say no more and deal with what you got.
Metz.
~AMEN TO THAT~~
PEACE2U ALL!!
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You got that right.
Oh please. Parents doing all the work of the teacher? Thats the funniest thing I have heard on this blog. Perhaps instead of taking my advice of visiting a classroom, maybe, since you are so wonderful at helping your child, you should become the teacher that you think we are not. Oh wait, you wont be able to find a job because every district is laying people off to save money. People think becoming a teacher is easy. Quite the contrary. Find an education major at YSU and ask them exactly how easy it is. You need to walk a mile in our shoes. Only then will your ignorant comments be valid. Don't sit here and act like you know what is going in every classroom in every school. You are speaking of something you know NOTHING about.
Of course it's not easy. If it was everyone would be a teacher,the real problem is the school baord and superintendent who waste all the money so we have little left for the studnets and to pay the teachers.
Your idea of "more and more money" is significantly less than most communities are providing toward their schools. I understand that Austintown does not have the lowest property tax rate in the world but your overall taxes paid are very low.
What is the average home value in A-Town? $80k? A $1,200 to $1,500 average property tax bill? Where I live that same house would cost no less than $250k and the taxes would be $5,000. The local government's cost of providing community resources (teachers, cops, roads) does not cost 3.3 times as much where I live. Teachers are paid pretty much the same everywhere with immiterial differences same with cops and other civil services. P.S. - where I live they have school ratings by grade and every single school from every elementary school through the high school has an A rating. This does not have to do solely with the ability to properly fund the school but also the fact that it is a community that holds education as a top priority. So I pay more to live in this particular community than places 5 miles away but I have the ability of sending my kids to public schools and not having to pay private tuition. I had to pay more because people recognize and appreciate the value of a good school system. So I work a little harder and longer each day so I can provide that for my family and I guaranty you that it is well worth it.
Every time I come back to town I hear the same old complaints about how nothing is really improving but no one is ever doing anything about it. Not having enough money is an excuse for particular situations. Sure some people are down on their luck, but anyone that's not working 50 hours a week and has the ability to do so has no credibility for saying they can't afford to invest in their commnunity. Its not that they can't, its that they chose not to. It is not a priority and it has not been a priority in Austintown. So long as it isn't, more and more youth will move away and things will continue to get worse.
Still epople ahve bills to pay gas for their car,food and clothing to buy and taxes to pay that you ahve to do. Then we are expected to give mre money up to the schools when the public school system was created by the goverment in the first place and they made it a law to have to go to school. They are the real ones to be giving more to the schools not us.
In Response to Peace2You:
Point by point.
1. anti-education types maybe not, but anti-teacher for sure.
2. Quality of education- always can improve, do you not think that you are painting too broad of a generalization, when all teachers are now giving out dittos? What about other factors that cause educational problems, not just placing blame on those lazy, overpaid, uncaring teachers. What was the divorce rate in your year's of school? What was the financial situation of the district? I am not giving teachers a free pass, believe me, but as with any profession you will have great, poor and all parts in between.
3. "the Board, the Supt and all of you? First off who says that I am a teacher?
Finally, I can understand the trepidation that taxpayers have in these tough times to give more of their hard earned $ to ANYTHING. However, let's look who really suffers when $ isn't in education? Your Kids!!!!
The situation in A-town is fading fast. IMHO there are many teachers, administrators, and citizens to blame, not just one group. If you think that the education in ALSD is bad now, wait when they levy gets voted down again! BUT WAIT, I HAVE THE SOLUTION. LET'S PAY ALL THE TEACHERS LIKE CATHOLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS. I AM SURE THAT OUR DISTRICT WILL BE ABLE TO GET A VERY HIGH QUALITY OF TEACHER. WAIT, I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHY DON'T WE JUST NOT PAY TEACHERS AT ALL?
I respect your privacy when it comes to voting, but judging by your user name, I am pretty sure who you are going to vote for. When the Obamanator wins and raises taxes, I will post on this board "I told you so!!"
one levy would not solve al lthe problem in one night. more ahs to be done then that like spend your money wisely.
~~ever hear don't judge a book by "its" cover??
~~IF YOU ARE NOT ~~ then you really need to become one ~~ you would fit right in~~ I TELL YA!!
~~ SORRY ~~ CANNOT DIG DEEPER (BY CHOICE)~~ GOSH-- "THY POCKETS HAVE HOLES!!
~~ As well as EVERYONE ELSES~~
VOTE NO NO NO NO for THE 4.9( LEVY)
NO MORE $$$$$$$$$$ TO FATTER PAYCHECKS!!
A-M-E-N~~
PEACE2U ALL & TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!!
It would not make a diffenrece either way.